Are you serious?

[u/Adept-Plantain-6767]

How is this fair ? Bay area.

[u/BetDry2347]

How do they even police that?

[u/DenialNode → u/BetDry2347]

With the cameras the landlord has hidden throughout the apartment obviously.

[u/GayWithMoney → u/DenialNode]

you joke but I literally just escaped an SF room rental where there WERE cameras installed inside the home by the landlord. (almost certainly illegal,, one of many things that were about that place)

[u/makingkevinbacon → u/GayWithMoney]

More than almost certainly, it is in fact very much illegal. I'd be reporting them

[u/SiRocket → u/makingkevinbacon]

At first glance I agreed with you, but they had a room rental, not apartment, and they said the cameras were in the house, not in the room. As long as the owner (I assume who is living in the rest of the house) informed them, that's not nearly the red flag to me as if they were renting an apartment/house/whatever that had cameras. That sort of a situation should go to the police with zero hesitation, but renting a room is different- you have an expectation of privacy only in that room. I've rented a room on Airbnb that the house had ring cameras etc, not concerning to me at all. As long as they aren't in my room.

[u/Moghz → u/GayWithMoney]

I hope you reported that and make a big deal out of it. That’s is seriously illegal and while I am not positive but I bet they could get jail time for that.

[u/Unusual_Goose2994 → u/GayWithMoney]

Please fucking report them and save other people. If the only thing you did was leave and comment on Reddit then I’m afraid you should feel majorly guilty

[u/LimeDry7124 → u/DenialNode]

Outside the apartment. When you leave and come home.

[u/clonxy → u/LimeDry7124]

Well, that don't mean you're working from home. You can be playing board games or watching movies all day.

[u/Sei28 → u/clonxy]

“$300 Extra if you don’t have a job”

$50 extra if you open your windows more than twice per month”

[u/Doonesman → u/Sei28]

Charge 'em for the lice, extra for the mice! Two percent for looking in the mirror twice! Here a little slice, there a little cut Three percent for sleeping with the window shut!

[u/ew73 → u/Doonesman]

https://giphy.com/gifs/l1udXAkG3jQYwLBNGY

[u/Uncynical_Diogenes → u/clonxy]

Yeah, like, you aren’t legally obligated to have a job. You’re obligated to pay your rent but how isn’t their business.

People can just live somewhere and not leave regularly for work, it’s allowed. We have a huge segment of the population who does that, we call them children and old people and disabled folks and rich bastards, depending.

[u/Undeity → u/Uncynical_Diogenes]

Generally, landlords who pull this kind of stuff do consider whether or not you have a job to be their business. As well as details like exactly how much you make, and what you have saved up.

If they think your source of rent is tenuous, such as if you are someone else's dependent, then they will hold it against you as a potential tenant.

[u/DungeonCrawlerAki → u/clonxy]

Most places you need to show you have an income. It wouldn't surprise me if this place asks you about your job specifically, including if its work from home.

[u/-Terriermon- → u/DungeonCrawlerAki]

This is why I love lying. You can’t legally enforce that where I live anyways.

[u/MoeKneeKah → u/DungeonCrawlerAki]

They can ask all they want, it’s none of their business. Charging extra rent for WFH is insane behavior. Landlords will literally charge for everything that’s supposed to be included in the rent. I see places that charge an amenity fee, which is crazy because it’s not like you have the option to not pay the fee in exchange for not using amenities. The amenities are there, they should be included with rent.

[u/toyification_girl → u/MoeKneeKah]

Now you get denied rent and they pocket the $75 fee to apply which. What a scam

[u/DreamOne5 → u/DungeonCrawlerAki]

I just don't understand why it matters if you work from home

[u/nmpls → u/LimeDry7124]

Jokes on them, I'm funemployed now.

[u/BetDry2347 → u/LimeDry7124]

What if I leave through the window everyday

[u/LimeDry7124 → u/BetDry2347]

He's probably got cameras out there in the bushes.

[u/HiggsBowzon → u/LimeDry7124]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SuCSBltWj9HvGemxjs

[u/LimeDry7124 → u/HiggsBowzon]

🤣🤣🤣

[u/EachBananaWas19cents → u/LimeDry7124]

Challenge Accepted.

Reminds me of the (very) old joke back when hotel toilets had that "sanitized for your protection" paper ribbon around the seat/bowl & some comedian once said he always carefully took those off and then replaced them before checking out just to confuse the maids…

[u/pr0tag → u/DenialNode]

Joke's on them - I bring my laptop to the bathroom

[u/AcctAlreadyTaken → u/BetDry2347]

They plan on using your place while you're gone.

[u/10000Didgeridoos → u/AcctAlreadyTaken]

The password is orrrrrggyyyy

[u/snuuginz → u/10000Didgeridoos]

You may enter.

[u/bongsmasher → u/snuuginz]

You don't bang someone on a empty stomach do you?

[u/snuuginz → u/bongsmasher]

I don't want to bang any of these people anyway, they're all paunchy and old and weird!

[u/fatbunyip → u/AcctAlreadyTaken]

Are they gonna clean after they're done? 

[u/XxCorey117xX → u/fatbunyip]

Am I invited?

[u/Fit-Understanding739 → u/XxCorey117xX]

No, but Dirty Mike and the Boys are

[u/Background-Fennel92 → u/BetDry2347]

Well this where good ol fashioned (withholding evidence) lying comes into play.

https://giphy.com/gifs/5Lde07vLz8en6s66Zz

[u/Most_Philosophy_1507 → u/BetDry2347]

Right?

[u/dtoddh → u/BetDry2347]

I'm sure you have to provide proof of employment, and the landlord probably follows up.

[u/justsikko → u/dtoddh]

How the fuck are the following up? Calling your job and asking? That’s lunatic behavior. Also if my job is giving out information to random people without my consent that’s also crazy shit.

[u/raz-0 → u/justsikko]

If your job is disclosing anything more than "yes they work for us" they are not following the rules.

[u/KGeddon → u/raz-0]

Since OP specified the bay area, which I assume is San Francisco...

Pretty sure this is covered under the fairly recent California Privacy Rights Act(CPRA). There is no actual business reason for them to disclose the employees work schedule to a third party.

[u/OnyxLeigion_ → u/dtoddh]

I doubt any job is going to do anything more than verify employment.

“Do they come into the office every day?” Would probably be met with the call ending

[u/inorite234 → u/OnyxLeigion_]

Yup. The type of employment is generally not considered part of the verification and I would hope your employer isn't an idiot and gave away anything other than verification you work there and verification of your title.

[u/iantruesnacks → u/BetDry2347]

If they live nearby or on the same plot they could be able to tell when you leave or stay. When my neighbors saw me out with my daughter on the days I work from home they ask what I’m doing home, not that it’s their business, they eventually learned I’m WFH 2-3 days a week. Probably something similar.

[u/musclecard54 → u/iantruesnacks]

Lmao “what are you doing home” uhh i live here…

[u/iantruesnacks → u/musclecard54]

Yea Mary’s nosy af

[u/BeeAppropriate1190 → u/BetDry2347]

Probably electrical meter usage throughout the day. Someone who works in office will see big dips in usage from 9-5 or whatever your schedule is. Landlord almost certainly controls the utilities.

[u/mcampo84 → u/BeeAppropriate1190]

Working from home doesn't result in $200/month electrical bill spikes.

[u/SupportGeek → u/BeeAppropriate1190]

Won’t work if my “working from home” is selling drugs lol

[u/FantasyFI → u/BeeAppropriate1190]

What if you simply don't work but stay home all day? They seriously can't police what they are asking. They can't see whether you work (3) 12's or (5) 8's, whether you work nights or weekends. Etc.

It's unenforceable. If they tried to charge me, I'd just say, yeah I am at home but I am not working. That utility spinning is me gaming. Sorry it wasn't written in the lease.

[u/DreamOne5 → u/BeeAppropriate1190]

not in michigan! DTE charges more in the day in the summer when nobody is home for absolutely zero reason. I hate them.

[u/RealCarlPanzram → u/BetDry2347]

They hope you’re dumb enough to admit to it and forfeit an extra $2,400 a month because there’s zero way they could enforce this or evict you for it.

[u/Drdrdodo]

I guess you won't be "working from home" then. Just happens to stay home during work hours.

[u/ImmediateCause7981 → u/Drdrdodo]

"Im unemployed my dad sends me money for rent"

[u/JeebusChristBalls → u/ImmediateCause7981]

I don't think telling a landlord you are unemployed is going to get you an apartment.

[u/AccordingSetting6311 → u/JeebusChristBalls]

"Independently wealthy"

[u/Outrageous_Sleep4339 → u/JeebusChristBalls]

If you have proof of funds, it should be fine honestly.

[u/AtheismoAlmighty → u/Outrageous_Sleep4339]

Incredibly out of touch comment. Anyone who has navigated the hell scape of apartment hunting in the modern era knows how fucked it is.

[u/mystyle__tg → u/AtheismoAlmighty]

People get co-signers all the time?

[u/ConflictWaste411 → u/ImmediateCause7981]

If only proof of income was a part of the rent process

[u/Kind-Apricot22 → u/ConflictWaste411]

People get apartments all the time while being unemployed.

[u/Efficient-Train2430 → u/Drdrdodo]

"night shift"

[u/JeebusChristBalls → u/Drdrdodo]

"I work nights and that's why I'm always home during the day"

[u/BirdlessLongdeal → u/Drdrdodo]

"i work odd hours"

[u/ToastSpangler]

Are all utilities included? That could be the only justification but tbh fuck them, it's no different than a hermit and nobody penalizes them or requires a time out of the house

[u/Obvious_Pause5766 → u/ToastSpangler]

Yes, I've seen this in another sub. Utilities are included

[u/GrossUsername68 → u/Obvious_Pause5766]

Edit for visibility. Commenter below me said 900 Trails End Dr, Walnut Creek.

Except, this is not enforceable.  It would have to be via utilities and RUBS calculations, which are regulated pretty tightly. 

The max for an application fee is also $66 in CA. And must be refundable, as they must go in the order received and refund those they did not consider. You can’t “consider” 5+ people at once.

Name. And. Shame.

[u/Biomenreds → u/GrossUsername68]

Report the listing.Slumlords pull this garbage hoping desperate tenants don’t know their rights.

[u/TheKocsis → u/GrossUsername68]

Wtf is an application fee even? Honest question, never seen it

[u/8__D → u/TheKocsis]

It is what it sounds like. It's supposed to cover the background check, but they often charge way too much and pocket the money. Illegally, in some states.

[u/A_Genius → u/TheKocsis]

Credit check and background check fee. The problem is landlords will accept 10 applications and do maybe 2 background checks and credit checks and pocket the rest.

[u/Most_Philosophy_1507 → u/Obvious_Pause5766]

Better shower 13 hours a day to make it worth it. Still not worth it.

[u/Expensive_Fudge_2972 → u/Obvious_Pause5766]

In that case, if I didn't work from home I'd be sure as shit to crank the AC and leave everything I can running while I'm gone for the day lol.

[u/phoebebridgersfan26 → u/ToastSpangler]

This is probably the reason, however, I don't see how they can justify that reason if you have kids at home or something. Whether it's the kids or a SAHP.

My 16 year old sister does online school and then is always home during summer. So would they charge extra then too? They aren't technically working from home...

[u/BetApprehensive7064 → u/ToastSpangler]

I guarantee the average gamer has more electricity use then a WFH it's just a weird policy like most people who WFH use a laptop how much more power are you really using

Do stay at home parents count as well? Unemployed people?

[u/Scar1203 → u/BetApprehensive7064]

I tripped the breaker to my office because I was running both my gaming PCs while my air conditioner was on yesterday. I'd say your assessment is spot on. lol

[u/Delazzaridist → u/Scar1203]

I could have both on. It's when someone uses the microwave, then half the horribly wired house shuts down.

[u/timelessblur → u/BetApprehensive7064]

This is not to justify the expense but I can tell you that there was a noticable increase in my utility bills when started WFH full time.

I also had other expenses go up as well due to full time work from home. A big one being the amount of snacky food I bought, and I found my water bill went up some as well. Now none of it close to 200 a month and a hell of a lot less than what my gas expenses were per month.

[u/Tao-of-Mars → u/ToastSpangler]

$200 is absolutely ridiculous 

[u/CauliflowerTop2464 → u/ToastSpangler]

Move in then say you were fired.

[u/Disastrous_Savings39 → u/ToastSpangler]

If they were every light would be on water consistently heat cranked in winter ac as low as it would go in summer just as a fuck you to that rent

[u/anonymous8122]

Nobody's mentioning the $500 move-in fee? That can't be normal either. 😳

[u/Darth-Skvader → u/anonymous8122]

Right? Like I’d understand if you just had to pay the first month’s rent up front or something but an additional fee just for taking possession of the space you’re already paying for? Huh?

[u/MentallyWill → u/Darth-Skvader]

The only time I've seen this it's been for reasonable things at reasonable prices. For example a nice building I lived in in NYC had a $75 move-in fee because the building would need to reserve the freight elevator and the freight entrance for you, which meant getting parking permits to keep that curb clear during your move-in window, so the fee was really just covering some administrative and governmental costs with the logistics of actually moving into the building.

Of course, if you could move in without using the freight elevator at all, no fee needed. But that's not really feasible in a nice, high rise building.

[u/jmanly3 → u/anonymous8122]

This is what I came to say. I’m about to move into my…26th residence (I think?) and I’ve never paid a move-in fee.

Edit: I think it’s actually 22 residences now

[u/Towelbit → u/jmanly3]

Screw moving 26 times. That’s wild

[u/SAUbjj → u/anonymous8122]

Not sure about bay area, but that is very normal in Chicago. Landlords have to pay interest on security deposits when they're returned, so a lot of landlords switched to doing a $400 or $500 move-in fee instead. Maybe it's a similar thing?

[u/False-Ad-8561 → u/SAUbjj]

But they are still charging a security deposit in the screenshot. Do you mean that they charge a move in fee on top of it to cover the interest they have to pay back on the deposit? 🧐 Seems scummy lol.

[u/JeebusChristBalls → u/SAUbjj]

They should put it in an interest bearing account then...

[u/RollUpTheRimJob → u/SAUbjj]

They don’t pay interest. The security deposit should be in an escrow account that earns interest. LL doesn’t pay anything, interest comes from the bank.

[u/flyingthroughspace → u/SAUbjj]

Landlords have to pay interest on security deposits when they're returned, so a lot of landlords switched to doing a $400 or $500

It's literally 0.01% of the deposit for an entire year. On a $3,250 deposit it would work out to $32.50. Fuck a $500 move in fee for that.

[u/AssistantSalty6519 → u/anonymous8122]

I mean the application fee seems worst.

[u/audiofarmer → u/AssistantSalty6519]

Where we are the application fee is paid upfront but deducted from the first months rent. It's still stupid and arbitrary but not as bad as charging to move in.

[u/timmy7445]

Fuck this place

[u/Aquaman33 → u/timmy7445]

Just having a deposit and move-in fee is bad enough. It's supposed to be one or the other

[u/Melkman68 → u/Aquaman33]

And app fee...

[u/SolomonGrumpy → u/Melkman68]

And a fee fee. And a fee for looking at all the fees

[u/pandershrek → u/SolomonGrumpy]

Did you look at our listing? That will be a looking fee.

[u/missybeputtinitdown]

How would they know if you don’t self report?

[u/dtoddh → u/missybeputtinitdown]

Landlord will confirm your employment.

[u/Okayest_By_Far → u/dtoddh]

Your employer will confirm that you work there, but are they required to divulge additional details of your employment? If your landlord can ask whether or not you work from home, can they also ask what your hours are? What days you’ve requested off? How many sick days you’ve taken?

[u/scooooooooooot2 → u/Okayest_By_Far]

Don’t know if it’s the same but when we get work history checks wed only provide start/end date and that’s it. There’s probably no requirement on the employer to provide information for something like this, and providing information the prevents someone from getting a job, apartment, etc. could get you sued. Easier to just not provide anything outside of the bare min.

[u/Unfair-Arachnid-1794 → u/dtoddh]

Employment yes, but not all job titles list "REMOTE WORKER" in them. And I don't know that someone can ask for specifics from your employer about your work schedule or location? Maybe they can but that seems...weird.

[u/Sure-Assignment3892 → u/dtoddh]

All a landlord is entitled to know is "employed = yes".

Not where, what or who you work for, nor any other conditions that are between employee/employer.

Charging more for WFH is discriminatory and illegal.

[u/Niceotropic]

They have absolutely no right to know either way, landlords have absolutely no right to know what you are doing in your house. Working from home is not the same as operating a business where customers come to your home.

[u/Btotherianx → u/Niceotropic]

Yeah it's like if they had a fee for masturbating. 

[u/dontworryitsme4real → u/Btotherianx]

Whoa whoa whoa... Slow down there. I'm broke as it is, don't give slumlords any more ideas.

[u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior → u/dontworryitsme4real]

You got it backwards - the landlord pays you the fee.  What do you think the cameras are for?

[u/BetterUsername69420 → u/dontworryitsme4real]

slumcumlord

[u/rdmodsrtrsh → u/Btotherianx]

I’m workin it from home

[u/Late-Arrival-8669]

I'd post that on local forums as humiliation.

No way would I EVER do business with someone like this..

[u/potmakesmefeelnormal]

That's not legal in California. They can restrict you from running a commercial business from your home if it attracts "excessive" outside clients or causes noise, but they can't charge you more just because you work from home.

[u/athleticelk1487]

That cannot be legal

[u/AdDifficult3794]

The move in fee means they help you move in right??? Right?....

[u/PerspectiveNew3375]

an unemployed retired person and a working at home person can have similar daily patterns and they don't need to know which one you are

[u/jaywinner]

Nothing about this is ok. Move in fee? Application fee?

[u/Frosty558 → u/jaywinner]

The non-refundable application fee is the worst part IMO. What’s stopping them from just never actually renting the place out and collecting $75/person indefinitely?

[u/One_Strike_Striker → u/Frosty558]

So you say "Hey, I'd like to rent this" and they are "No, you won't. That'll be 75, please"? Times a hundred for all those applicants? That can't/shouldn't be legal.

[u/TheSmartDog_275]

How do they know though, just say you don’t.

[u/NickBurnsCompanyGuy → u/TheSmartDog_275]

Or don't sign with this dork ass landlord. 

[u/notlostwanderer2000]

Can we report this?

[u/pretty_dead_grrl]

This is 100% illegal according to the tenant protection act.

Additionally, you are under no obligation to advise your landlord of your schedule of work status. As long as you’re able to pay your rent, the rest isn’t their right to know.

[u/Technical-Agency8128]

So OP is only allowed to be home a certain amount of hours each day according to the landlord. He could be working at home and then be called in ending that. Or be working outside of it and then find a work at home job. So he is to report all his work activity. This seems illegal. He could also quit his job and be home 24/7. I’d check with a lawyer on this.

[u/Honcho_47]

Just say you’re unemployed living off inheritance, so you’re home all the time. Fuck em.

[u/Tamberav]

But what if I don’t work at all?

[u/Appropriate-Nerve-57]

Is that legal? Also is the “ move in fee” legal? I’m assuming this is in the USA?

[u/Live_Life_and_enjoy]

They try to steal at least $200 a month out of your house when you are not working from home.

This helps cover the loss of thievery profits.

[u/Mk1Racer25]

WTF is a $500 'move in fee'? They most likely dinged the prior tenant for a cleaning fee when they moved out.

[u/RedeyeSPR]

If way more shocked by $3250 per month. That’s straight up insanity.

[u/Historical-Green-463]

Wtf is a “move-in fee”? Is the landlord going to help me move and unpack all my stuff?

[u/thirdLeg51]

How would anyone know?

[u/sleepiestOracle]

Move in fee??? WtH

[u/droptopdanny]

wtf is a move in fee? Lmao property management are scum

[u/Salt-Operation]

The fuck is a move-in fee?

[u/bigbadbrad45]

$500 move-in fee is also pretty outrageous in my mind. I avoid these types of landlords at all cost.

[u/DA760MVP]

If you are working from home just don't tell them

[u/EliteFourDishSoap]

How would they know

[u/DIYtowardsFI]

Your don’t work from home. You’re a stay-at-home parent or person. You’re retired. On a sabbatical. Whatever!

[u/ColHannibal]

Is power included? Or any utility?

Also fuck private people wanting a move in and application fee? Why the fuck is moving in an expense?

[u/Prestigious_Rich_592 → u/[deleted]]

One of my tenants is out of town the majority of each month. I haven’t raised his rent in 5 years. All utilities are included other than WiFi/cable

[u/DCRBftw → u/[deleted]]

according to this post, yes. it's 200 bucks cheaper.

[u/Academic-Snow9642]

The space:

[u/SpyderMonkey_]

I dont "work" from home but i am being paid to not come into the office.

[u/PlayedKey]

$200 fee for residing in the apartment you pay for residing in.

[u/modsaretoddlers]

They'll find any reason they can to screw you. 75 bucks to apply for an apartment lease? What for? 500 to move in? Huh? I'm the one doing all the work. $200 to actually use the place I live at?

Fuck all of these greedy punch in the face catchers.

[u/Ok-Giraffe-8434]

Enshittification of housing rent. How long before they add tipping options?

[u/Accomplished_Sweetie]

Yeah they need to be reported to the state

[u/DrObnxs]

I don't even think this is legal. And what about retired people? Stay at home parents?

[u/Proof_Bathroom_3902]

So the landlord wants a cut off what I do for a living?

Okay, but words like "premeditated" and "unindicted co-conspirator" can't be used against me later.

[u/Sirgolfs]

Because of utilities? Seems illegal. If not. Definitely scummy.

[u/Whoknows1254]

Tell them your a trust fund kid so you don’t have to leave your house at all if you don’t feel like.

[u/Difficult-Way-9563]

This is the dumbest shit I’ve seen.

1) I don’t know if that’s even enforceable

2) it’s actually in the best interest of the landlord to have someone there thought out the day as someone can respond to fire, break ins, etc etc pretty quickly and have better resolution the earlier it’s detected than being gone 9 hrs and fire breaks out at hour 1 in an empty house

[u/LectureOrganic1250]

So not only are you charging a psychotic amount of money for rent, now you want to charge me more for being smart and working at home because I am spending more time.....at home?

BY THE WAY....THIS IS ILLEGAL. YOU CANNOT BE CHARGED MORE FOR RENT BECAUSE YOU WORK FROM HOME. IT'S CONSIDERED DISCRIMINATION!

They can only charge you more for rent for working from home if the rent includes utilities.

[u/Mr_Grapes1027]

Above normal flatulence- $150 / month
BMI over 19 - $250 / month
Are you stanky? $350 / month

[u/Juankzjt]

blackrock ?

[u/ItsMrShenanigans]

Jokes on you I don’t work from home I’m unemployed from home 🙃

[u/Chrisdkn619]

What the hell is a "move-in fee?" Like a a gym initiation fee? 🤦🏾‍♂️

[u/JasonRBoone]

Two words: "I'm retired..."

[u/Gas_Station_Man]

Pretty sure a security deposit IS the “move-in fee”. These people suck.

[u/OpheliaVelvet1]

Landlords are really charging you a subscription fee for breathing their air extra hours a day now. Incredible.

[u/DIGGYRULES]

Is there an extra fee for stay at home parents? Teens during summer break? Fuck this.

[u/PipeOriginal1171]

Landlord: "Are you working remote in there?"

You: "No."

It's that simple!

[u/OLacAlmost]

I use to travel for work and have dealt with many landlords. These type of landlords are 100 percent NOT WORTH renting from. Trust me.

[u/KileiFedaykin]

On its face, this is ridiculous. The only way I can even consider this a valid concern is if your electric utilities are included in the provided services within the rent.

[u/RotarySnow4]

I think charging for application fees should be illigal.

The apartment can just say they are currently leasing and actually not have any apartments open at all. Just keep on collecting money for a product(the apartment) that isnt available in the first place.

[u/Ballistic_86]

$3250 for rent? Even in today’s market that is wild. This better be some sick ass single family home.

[u/RequiredRedditAcct_1]

Why does this look fake to me? 

[u/DrewSlim]

Tell them bitches you don’t work from home and do that shit anyway. No way they can police that

[u/whattupmyknitta]

What the fuck is a "move in fee"? It's been a while since I've rented, but would this not just be the security deposit??

[u/PlaceAdHere]

I'm nit working from home, I am just volunteering and they happen to send me money every two weeks.

[u/legotwinkthrowaway]

They want us to pay the rent, but they dont want us to actually live there very much

[u/Jermzer]

Greed is degenerate asf

[u/Unfair-Arachnid-1794]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sanoHrtWDN5ew

"We think you work from home."

[u/braybri01]

I’m a stay at home mom. Do I have to pay extra?

[u/firstbornhater]

no way this is enforceable without them violating your privacy somehow. also potentially discriminatory because what if you work from home because you’re disabled?

[u/W3inerSchnitze1]

I cosplay working, not actually working. I play pretend with my friends and we have zoom meetings. I actually retired 10 years ago from the crayon factory

[u/wltmpinyc]

Where is this. This fees are ridiculous

[u/omegamun]

Ummm, what if I’m retired and I just, ya know, live there? Still an extra $200?

[u/Puzzleheaded_Tea_906]

Beyond that wtf is a “move-in fee”.

Fuck this landlord

[u/TheEndIsSighing]

$500 move in fee? Fuk you. 

[u/Advanced-Wheel-9677]

Wow what BS. No we do not have to pay more or less based on what activities we do at home.

[u/Advanced-Wheel-9677]

And what is this "move-in fee"? wow this landlord is greedy af

[u/Secret_Account07]

What? How’s that even enforceable?

[u/kinglyIII]

If you are operating a business you’ll need a certificate of use that is signed by the property owner in some jurisdictions. If you’re just working from home they won’t really know aside from that case I mentioned.

[u/DayManFOTNightMan]

I assume it's a utilities thing. My electric bill increases significantly when my kids are home all day.

If utilities aren't included, I don't know.

[u/DelirousDoc]

How is working on a computer all day $200 more expensive per month for the land lord?

Like unless they are setting up a huge crypto mining setup and utilities are included in rent, running a laptop and monitor 8-10 hours a day is not going to add significant cost to electric bill.

If anything they should be advertising things like fiber internet availability from the work from home crowd. IMO they are less likely to cause problems for the renter.

[u/OkInevitable5020]

wtf!?! Why would that even be a thing!?!

[u/PriestessKade]

What about people like retirees or stay-at-home-parents who are home all day? What if you change to a remote job part-way through your lease? This sounds entirely unenforceable, tbh.

[u/Ok_Neighborhood_470]

Can I sit the the lobby of the apartment complex and work? You know, fun, welcoming, socializing area of wasted square footage that adds to that 'luxury' feel.

[u/Eastern-Bluejay-8912]

That’s illegal. 🤣 you can’t just charge extra for working from home. If that is your current rent/landlord, let them know it’s illegal to charge extra for that. If a possible location you want, find another place but also report him.

[u/WHTrunner]

WTF is an application fee? Does that mean that people have to pay money to attempt to rent the place?

[u/stein63]

$3,250 for a furnished 535-square-foot backyard ADU is already ridiculous. Charging another $200 because someone works from home is just shameless greed disguised as a utility fee.

[u/Weird_Regret_6369]

The jokes on them i don't earth that much a month

[u/BoxOutside2676]

*An additional for actually using your home.

[u/deeper-diver]

That WFH fee makes zero sense, not to mention the "move-in Fee". It's crap like this that gives landlords a bad reputation.

I'd love to see what happens if a LL tries to enact that $200. In many jurisdictions, that would be so illegal it would be fun to try.

[u/pandershrek]

Does this place include utilities?

If so that would be their justification. If not: greed.

Though it is greed either way. Time to start a crypto farm at this place.

[u/kitnb]

What happens if you sign the lease then a few months later, get a new job that’s WFH or your current job goes to WFH or what if you have a job that’s only WFH 2-3 days a week?!?

What if someone is disabled or retired?? What if it’s a married couple with a kid, where the husband goes to an office but the wife is stay-at-home???

And a “move in fee”?!? Is the landlord going to help you move in boxes and furniture or hire ppl to help you?!?

Dude, this landlord needs to be reported to the state IMMEDIATELY.

Do not move into that shit show!

[u/Dry_Understanding580]

This is source of income discrimination.

[u/yatrix7]

How dare you…live in your home.

[u/LTinS]

Pretty much everything about that is illegal where I live. Good luck to you.