At first glance I agreed with you, but they had a room rental, not apartment, and they said the cameras were in the house, not in the room. As long as the owner (I assume who is living in the rest of the house) informed them, that's not nearly the red flag to me as if they were renting an apartment/house/whatever that had cameras. That sort of a situation should go to the police with zero hesitation, but renting a room is different- you have an expectation of privacy only in that room. I've rented a room on Airbnb that the house had ring cameras etc, not concerning to me at all. As long as they aren't in my room.
Oh they just use smoke detector cameras in the rooms. Or the electric outlet ones you can barely notice the hole on. I don't do Airbnb anymore because of that.
I stopped using airBnB when they let owners mandate you be the maid or get charged exorbitant cleaning fees. I am not doing a deep clean while on vacation. That is bigger bullshit than vegas resort fees.
The cameras are not hidden. they are visible in plain sight. so its up to the next renter to decide if they want to live under those conditions or not. Plenty of people do in SF because rooms are hard to come by
It’s ILLEGAL. You didn’t report something ILLEGAL. What happened to “if you see something, say something”? Landlords to this shit because people like you deem it “not my problem!” and just move on instead of doing the right thing.
Its not illegal to have cameras in your home and you rent a room. It WOULD be illegal if there were any in the bathroom or the room you're renting, but not in the house in general.
That phrase absolutely did NOT originate post 9/11. It may have been popularized at that time, but it’s been around forever.
It’s a phrase meant to encourage people to speak up or report if they saw things like signs of abuse or active abuse, a situation that didn’t seem right or seemed unsafe (possible kidnapping/ sex trafficking), possible break ins, stalking behavior, etc etc, etc.
None of that is legal and if you gave half a shit you would have reported it. But whatever let your landlord illegal tape you in yours rooms cause none of you have a backbone to stand up for yoursleves lol
Hope none of that footage ended up somewhere its not supposed to but thats the dice your rolling.
The camera was in the kitchen/hallway area facing the hall and bedroom doors. it would not pick up anyone naked. it was a single family home with each bedroom a separate lease with a person we did not know. no one was walking around naked I can assure you lol
You never know what goes on at night or when you aren’t there. There should be privacy when you leave your room. No cameras. Only outside the residence. It’s not legal to set up cameras in a home no matter who is renting the rooms.
The roommates could not be displaced, they could be running a meth lab and dog fighting ring in the apartment and it'd still take 90 days to evict them. SF has tenant protections
Absolute 100% lie then. You had a slam dunk open and shut civil and criminal law suit and "nahhhh.... I was GONNNAAAAAAAAA buuuuuuttttttttt naaaahhhhh"
If the landlord doesn't lived there, they cannot have cameras. I don't know this exactly but I imagine the only exception would be if they lived there too and even then they would need to tell you and they likely aren't allowed to have them in a room that specifically you pay for.
I think in general it isn't legal to film people without their consent within their homes, regardless (if the cameras were in a shared living space, yo7 would need to be notified and agree to that). Good thing you got out of there but like others mentioned, I still would have reported for the next victim's sake
There is nothing to report. the people living there see the cameras and accept living with them. If they didn't like them, they would report or move out like I did.
Illegal how? Especially in a place the landlord lives in concurrently.
2 places you can't have cameras are the bathroom and individual bedrooms. That leaves all the common areas. The landlord room that can record audio at least in a 1 party state within the given notification.
Even if the landlord didn't have em inside the apartment. Cams outside are still a thing.
It's illegal to record someone without their knowledge in their home. The landlord is allowed to have cameras in common spaces, provided the tenant is informed and fine with it. On this comment, I did not know they were renting a room (wasn't in the title or description or in the comments I saw before I commented, so that's just my mistake for not knowing that detail). Yea cams outside are obviously fine, that's facing public space, no one's arguing the legality of those as literally every other person has one. And yea some states allow one party recording, i don't know if that extends to video in someone's private space tho. Like if I call you and you record the call without my knowledge, it's fine if you're in a state that allows it. I don't know about video, within a home. It's different when you're in public, it's all fair game apparently. But the tenant still at least needs to know (maybe the agreeing part I'm wrong on, but they definitely need to be informed, even if it's just in common areas shared by all inhabitants)
It is illegal to record someone in their own home without consent. Renting an apartment is making the apartment your home. Even your landlord owning the property does not supersede your right to privacy within your home. That's what an apartment rent contract is. You are paying money in exchange for gaining personal home rights in a space that the landlord owns. The contract and the local laws protect both the renter and the landlord for certain rights.
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u/makingkevinbacon 1h ago
More than almost certainly, it is in fact very much illegal. I'd be reporting them