r/mildlyinfuriating 1h ago

go to your room Are you serious?

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How is this fair ? Bay area.

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u/Niceotropic 1h ago

They have absolutely no right to know either way, landlords have absolutely no right to know what you are doing in your house. Working from home is not the same as operating a business where customers come to your home.

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u/Btotherianx 1h ago

Yeah it's like if they had a fee for masturbating. 

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u/dontworryitsme4real 1h ago

Whoa whoa whoa... Slow down there. I'm broke as it is, don't give slumlords any more ideas.

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u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior 1h ago

You got it backwards - the landlord pays you the fee.  What do you think the cameras are for?

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u/pandershrek 1h ago

Well fuck. Imma about to be rich!!!

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u/rdmodsrtrsh 1h ago

I’m workin it from home

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u/ProfessionalBig1470 1h ago

Or a fat fee for bigger poops

I would be charged for all three. WFH, fat, and masturbating

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u/NastyStreetRat 1h ago

Please don't, it would ruin me for life.

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u/Cultural-Midnight807 1h ago

Please don’t give them ideas 

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u/Lazy-Size-3062 1h ago

well actually if you operated a business from home, thats not legal in nearly every state that im aware of. you have to have a business license among other things. local ordinances/zoning is a huge factor here.

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u/Niceotropic 1h ago

Why are you bringing up something that has nothing to do with the discussion and doesn’t contradict anything I said?

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u/Accomplished_Key_171 1h ago

Your comment seems to insinuate that a fee is normal when operating a business from your home, but in most instances apartments/rentals have explicit rules against operating a business from your home in the first place.

It was relevant to the topic imo.

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u/Niceotropic 1h ago

This post has nothing to do with operating a business from a home. Working remotely is not the same at all as "operating a business from your home". Period.

u/Accomplished_Key_171 55m ago

Working from home is not the same as operating a business where customers come to your home.

That is obvious. He was simply adding info pertaining to this part of your comment. You state a fee would be applicable if you were running a business from your home, but that wouldn't be true since that's not allowed in the first place.

The reply was about a piece of information that you yourself brought up.

u/Niceotropic 55m ago

I'm sorry you're having trouble reading, hundreds of other people did not have that issue.

u/Accomplished_Key_171 47m ago

And I'm not even disagreeing with your initial point. You just seem to have a monumentally hard time understanding what the first comment is implying.

u/Niceotropic 41m ago

I'm not going to feed this behavior.

u/Accomplished_Key_171 35m ago

I imagined we were just having a discussion, but to each their own.

u/Accomplished_Key_171 51m ago

Dear god please don't tell me you're actually using upvotes as a way to validate your point

u/Look_its_Rob 3m ago

Thats why they said working from home is not the same as operating a business from your home...

u/OnTheEveOfWar 34m ago

It’s an ADU so it’s attached to the landlords house. They would know when you are home. Not saying I agree with it. But this isn’t like some apartment in a complex. It’s attached to the owners house. Landlord is paying all utilities.

u/Niceotropic 31m ago

Ok, that isn't in the OP. You know those things for sure, like OP posted that in comments?

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u/renoops 1h ago

Landlords definitely do have a right to know what you're doing in your house in many cases. 

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u/Niceotropic 1h ago

Not in this case, the only important thing that matters.

You can say "in many cases" to the end of literally anything because there is of course exceptions for like smelling smoke coming out of the door, or seeing flames through a window, etc.

Comments like this are so low intellect I can't stand it.

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u/renoops 1h ago

You're the one who said they have "no right to know what you're doing." Nobody forced you to say something so obviously untrue and stupid. 

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u/BedBubbly317 1h ago

Technically speaking, they absolutely do have a right to know. They can allow or disallow nearly anything they want. At the end of the day it’s their property, not the tenants.

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u/Niceotropic 1h ago

No, you're just totally wrong. During the time of the lease, the tenant has the right to the property. That's the entire point of a lease. That's why landlords have to give you notice before coming, and still owe you privacy.

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u/jmcdon00 1h ago

Depends on what's in the lease(and local laws).

u/mightylordredbeard 47m ago

Okay, but they haven’t signed a lease yet so if you want to move in then you’re required to tell them if you work from home or not. Violation of the lease is a means for eviction; if they include a clause that says “if we discover you lied about employment, then we can evict you”.. then once they find out you WFH they evict or raise your rent.

u/Niceotropic 46m ago

No, contract terms are invalid if they are not legal. For example, I can sign a contract that says “you can be evicted if the landlord finds out you are Muslim”, but it doesn’t mean that it can be enforced against me.

u/mightylordredbeard 39m ago

What law prevents a landlord from asking for employment verification?

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u/BedBubbly317 1h ago

Yes, very limited rights compared to ownership rights. Tenants do not have carte blanche to do whatever they want with a rented property, only what was agreed upon at the time of signing.

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

And any portion of the lease that does not follow the law is invalidated.

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u/Niceotropic 1h ago

No, you’re just spouting things you believe, not things that are based in reality.

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

Except no, they still have to follow the law.

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 1h ago

Is there a law against this?

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

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u/RWDPhotos 1h ago

You might want to point to the specific page out of 156.

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

I don't do people's homework for them. Learn how to Ctrl-F

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u/RWDPhotos 1h ago

Doesn’t seem you did the homework either then

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

Right. Cause I've never been a tenant and had to sue a landlord.

Your laziness and illiteracy remain not my problem.

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u/RWDPhotos 1h ago

I don’t see how that’s relevant to knowing where the answer is in that pdf

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 1h ago

So you don't actually know if there's a law against it...

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

Yep. I do. That's why I was able to provide you with the law. Not my fault you don't want to read.

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u/Agitated-Impress7805 1h ago

That's not a law, that's a "guide." Can you cite a code section?

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u/BedBubbly317 1h ago

And nothing about this is illegal.

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

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u/BedBubbly317 1h ago

I’m not reading a 156 page document to try and hunt down the one little clause you’re talking about. Link me to the direct clause.

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago edited 1h ago

Your illiteracy is not my problem.

Here is the link again, for buffoons that missed the part where I shared the information that proves me to be correct - https://www.dre.ca.gov/publications/ResourceGuidebook/index.html

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u/BedBubbly317 1h ago

Or you have no clue what you’re talking about and are just hoping this is specifically covered. Essentially your just expecting others to do your homework for you

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

You're the one that can't cite any sources defending your claims that literally everyone reading it is calling BS on.

Your willful ignorance is not my problem.

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u/renoops 1h ago

Typically when people have information that shows them to be correct, they share it. 

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u/Niceotropic 1h ago

I’d quit now, you’re looking very ignorant with statements like “the landlord… can allow or disallow nearly whatever they want”, etc.

Uh, no. The tenant has the prevailing right to the property during the lease.

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u/BedBubbly317 1h ago

Tenant rights, not owners rights. A tenant cannot do whatever they please with a property they are renting. They cannot do things like paint walls if it’s not agreed upon, or dig a hole in the yard and try to start a garden. The owner is allowed to grant additional rights like this, but they do not have to. A tenant cannot make any physical changes to a property without express permission from the owner.

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

Actually, they can, they just have to restore it afterward or forfeit their deposit.

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u/BedBubbly317 1h ago

That’s just standard boiler plate language within most leases. But they do not have to allow you to make any changes if they do not want to

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u/PrettiestFrog 1h ago

Dude, you really need to learn about landlord/tenant laws and rights before you keep making yourself look like a fool.

At this point, you're a bot. Bye.

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u/GrossUsername68 1h ago

Somebody lives in a shitty state with no consumer laws …

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u/jmcdon00 1h ago

I don't think they have a right to know, they can ask, but nobody has to divulge their personal information, but the landlord can also deny them because you refused to answer.

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u/GrossUsername68 1h ago

Aaaand that’s where you’re wrong.

CA law is clear about this.

  At the end of the day it’s their property, not the tenants.

Yes. Which means that they can sell it, must maintain it, and also accept money in exchange for giving up most control of it, commonly known as “rent”.

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u/Sensitive_Bat_9211 1h ago

You're right, they dont have the right.

They just wont lease you the property if you dont provide that information