Are you serious?

[u/Adept-Plantain-6767]

How is this fair ? Bay area.

[u/ColHannibal]

Is power included? Or any utility?

Also fuck private people wanting a move in and application fee? Why the fuck is moving in an expense?

[u/PrettiestFrog → u/ColHannibal]

The application fee is how they make most of their money. They collect 100+ fees, and half the time the apartment isn't even available.

[u/GrossUsername68 → u/PrettiestFrog]

Ceiling is $66 in CA, and they are charging $75. They must also be refundable, generally, of you aren't accepted.

Nice of this landlord to put all their illegal shit in writing though.

[u/nanapancakethusiast → u/GrossUsername68]

Good luck recovering it. They are banking on you not wanting to go through the legal channels bc it will waste more of your time than they assume $75 is worth to you.

[u/GrossUsername68 → u/nanapancakethusiast]

CC chargeback.

Alternatively, when they don’t show up to the small claims hearing or lose it, which is a zoom call, the additional damages are much, much larger.

[u/TideOneOn → u/ColHannibal]

If they are doing a credit check, the application fee makes sense. The rest I am with you.

[u/BedBubbly317 → u/ColHannibal]

Because doing proper background and credit checks costs money. Why should the landowner be responsible for fronting that cost?

[u/nanapancakethusiast → u/BedBubbly317]

Landlords really want their cake and to eat it too lol.

[u/secomano → u/BedBubbly317]

why shouldn't they?

[u/BedBubbly317 → u/secomano]

Because the tenant is the one that needs a home, the owner already has one (or multiple)

[u/secomano → u/BedBubbly317]

that doesn't add any new information.

[u/WTFdidUcallMe → u/BedBubbly317]

Cost of doing business.

[u/BedBubbly317 → u/WTFdidUcallMe]

For the tenant.

[u/WTFdidUcallMe → u/BedBubbly317]

For the landlord who is running a business. The prospective tenant is not running a business. Believe it or not, landlords still made money before they started passing along their business expenses to the tenant.