r/longrange 24d ago

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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r/longrange Aug 19 '25

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. Yes, this means you. READ THIS FIRST, V6 - How to avoid the Flair of Shame and eternal ridicule

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

If you're looking to ask for advice, we ask that you review the following 10 core guides, as they cover the overwhelming majority of newcomer questions. If your question is not answered in these 10 guides, please see below for the 4 basic questions your post should answer when asking for suggestions or advice, especially when it comes to things to buy.

If you make a post that asks for information covered in the 10 core guides, or your post doesn't cover the 4 key questions below, your post may be deleted, or it may be given the Flair of Shame TM until you correct your post.

What's the Flair of ShameTM, you ask? You'll know it when you see it.

If at any time you have questions on the rules of the sub, this pinned post, the general FAQ, why you got the Flair of ShameTM or anything similar, please use the modmail function.

CORE GUIDES:

  1. The sub's official FAQ/WIKI, as curated by the community as a whole.
  2. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (ring)
  3. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, 338 Lapua, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (magnum or recoil)
  4. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  5. The official r/Longrange glossary - because words mean things (glossary)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles V2 (starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (starter)
  8. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (starter)
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (ranges)
  10. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please review before asking hunting-related questions, as hunting is not the core purpose of this sub. (hunting)

The 4 key questions:

  1. What do you want to do/buy, and WHY? - Do you want to buy a rifle for PRS competition? Picking a laser rangefinder for NRL Hunter matches? Looking at scopes for F-Class competition? A tripod because you think they're cool and want to have one when banging steel with friends? What you're planning to do has a lot of influence on what works well, what works poorly, and what is an utter waste of time, so the more detail you can provide the better.
  2. How far away do you want to do it/what do you want to use it for? - 300 yards? 1,000? 2,000? Distance matters, 'nuff said.
  3. How much are you willing to spend to do it? What's your budget in currency? Your idea of "on a budget" isn't going to be the same as everyone else's. Saying your budget is unlimited for a laser rangefinder may change when someone suggests one that costs over $10,000. We need to know how much you're willing to spend. It can be a hard limit, a range, or even an approximate - but you need to give a number.
  4. How much experience do you currently have with it? - Jumping straight into a 375 Cheytac rifle to shoot 2 miles isn't going to go well if you have never shot a rifle past 300. We need at least a basic idea of what your relevant skill level is in order to give advice and suggestions that go with your skill set. While including your experience with other shooting disciplines is helpful, it's not going to be as relevant as most new shooters expect. You can love shooting 10ga slugs all day long from a shotgun, but it doesn't mean starting off with a magnum is a good idea.

When answering these 4 questions in your post, give as much detail as you can. The more details you give the faster you'll get suggestions or advice and you'll get better quality too. Help us to help you. Please don't treat the sub like your own personal crowd sourced search engine.

More guides:

If your question is answered in these, you will probably get called out by the members of the sub for not reading them, but it's not automatic grounds for the Flair of Shame.

  1. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  2. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  3. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (zen)
  4. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  5. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes
  6. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  7. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  8. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  9. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  10. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  11. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  12. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  13. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  14. Our sub's policy on shilling....
  15. ....and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.
  16. The official longrange TOP Gun Calculator, and how to have realistic expectations of precision (top)
  17. Hollywood's guide to top-mounted red dots and target acquisition (Hint: you don't need a red dot)
  18. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetos)

Hunting-specific:

  1. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please read this before asking any questions related to hunting.
  2. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  3. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code. NOTE: Questions/discussion around shots on game past 300 yards will be removed from the sub. See the expanded policy link above. (hunting)
  4. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting, but also pertains to NRL Hunter matches) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (hunting)

MISC NOTES:

Quite a few guides/links feature a single word in parentheses and italics listed after them. If you use the phrase cheetofingers (all one word, no italics needed) followed by the word listed after a guide, you will summon the AutoModerator to reply to you with a link to that guide or guides. If the guide had (pews) after it, you could say cheetofingers pews in a post or comment in this sub to summon AutoMod with a link to that guide.

We've implemented the Flair of Shame as an official policy here instead of deleting posts that violated Rule #1 and the info in this pinned post. We felt that the flair was better than outright deleting posts while also helping long-standing members decide how much they want to participate in posts that have likely been covered time and time again. We're trying to strike a balance between encouraging members to read the info that the sub has cataloged, not wasting the time of established members that may be frustrated with revisiting the same topics repeatedly, and also not banishing new shooters that missed the pinned post to the freezer to never get help. Balancing those three things is a constant struggle, and one we're actively trying to get better at.


r/longrange 8h ago

Rimfire Friendship ended with BERGARA. Now RIMX is my best friend

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100 Upvotes

r/longrange 15h ago

Rifle flex post Build update

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189 Upvotes

First custom build, second long range rifle.

Action: Zermatt Origin short
Barrel: Proof prefit competition profile 26” in 6.5 creed
Chassis: Matterhorn
Bipod: Harris with Amazon arca adaptor
Trigger: TT Diamond
Scope: Vortex Venom
Brake: Cortina tuna brake
Magazine: MDT
Amazon bubble level

Going to hit range in Tennessee this weekend!


r/longrange 11h ago

Rifle flex post Budget build for PRS rifle

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r/longrange 14h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Cracks in Manners stock, should I worry?

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36 Upvotes

r/longrange 11h ago

Ballistics help needed - I read the pinned posts Zero point question

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17 Upvotes

So I was trueing dope on my 22 today. I know this might be a better question for the other subs but there are more active people here. What point on your rifle do you true your dope at. With rimfire it matters a lot more than centerfire. I have been setting my muzzle directly under my range finder to true but I was wondering if most people go from the chamber or otherwise. I went from 50 yards all the way to 540 today.


r/longrange 13h ago

Group flex (10 shots minimum) I know why Varget is the standard for 6mm now

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After getting mediocre results with StaBall Match (1MOA 5-shot groups and 10-15 FPS SD) last range trip I loaded with N540 and Varget. N540 was mediocre once again but with Varget I shot I think the smallest 10 shot group I've ever shot with a gas gun at .58 MOA and 6.5 FPS SD. Also went above my velocity target of 2550 FPS with lower than max Hornady book load. I understand why Varget is the default for 6mm now.

Barrel is an Odin Works 21" in 6mm ARC. Running it with a Rexus UltraBolt. It's smooth


r/longrange 21h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Total Hunter KRG forend. Anyone use/experience with it?

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Hey all,

Just stumbled onto this one today. Anyone have experience with this company and aftermarket KRG forend?

**EDIT**

Company is Australian based. So its currently listed @ $695.00 AUD which at this time roughly translates to $685.00 CAD or $485.00 USD


r/longrange 1d ago

Review Post New Tube :,)

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137 Upvotes

New Vortex Razor G3 6x36-56
Told the ol' wife that I snagged it for cheap so if she ask.....it was only 500$ 😭

This thing has crazy clear glass and pretty much what everyone else was saying. Just beautiful. Was debating getting this or NX6 or MK5HD. Glad I chose this. This will be going onto a 6.5CM MPA Vanquish ARC CDG- Match Hellfire

Hopefully can take her out soon


r/longrange 11h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Skill issue or equipment limitations?

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Bit of back story, I picked up a used Savage Model 12 in .308 around January, got some good equipment / accessories, got learnt, and went to shooting.

I'm thinking about getting an ultradyne chassis for my Model 12, but still kinda on the fence about it. 400 yards and in isn't an issue, but anything further than that is a struggle for me, the gun just doesn't seem to "fit" me well. Once my scope rings iusse got addressed it just seems like it's the cheap stock causing the problems they usually do. Any insight, advice, or recommendations for other chassis in the sub $700 are welcome.


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post Upgraded from a MDT ESS

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195 Upvotes

Balled out on a new to me MPA Chassis. 25 Creedmoor KS arms SA3R action. M40A5 + L96 Vibe


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts If you had the choice

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Hi, picture a little misleading they would both be in 6.5CM 24" barrel. Price Tikka 2.7K / CZ 3.1K

I can go shoot around 4 times per year 1000yards but involves usually an 1h ruck, thats all I would do occasional 1000yards on steel and pushing as far possible as ranges allows. Can shoot almost anyday 100yards so would like a 22lr trainer matching the chosen gun, as close a possible. Not chosen yet but spare 1k on side for beginner Optic. Shot many rifles up to 300yards.

If I may ask: What would you choose and why? (In rifle and trainer)


r/longrange 13h ago

Reloading related Different brass when setting up dies question.

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So my reloading set up is complete. I have lapua brass but have been practicing things with once fired Hornady brass. Such as, trimming, cleaning, decapping, setting up dies etc. I have yet to prime, charge and seat any bullets. I am decapping with a lee, body sizing with an rcbs(I took out the decapping rod), 21st century mandrel for ID and then match master for seating. My question is about sizing with the Rcbs. How much different will things be when I run lapua brass? I have it set up for .002 shoulder bump using the Hornady brass. Will that hold or should I start over when I start to size the lapua? Thanks!!


r/longrange 14h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Barrel Selection Help

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hello all, relatively new to long range but long time shooter. Wanted to check with the council before I pull trigger on this. I am doing a KAC M110 esc build. I say esc because it’s actually a LMT Mars H, just aesthetically similar to a M110 but with an original KAC PRS and Kac M110 suppressor. I need to select a barrel. due to using an OG KAC M110 can, I have the whole weird gated collar and profile of the M110 I need to adhere to. however due to the LMT Mars platform I will need to get an LMT cut from D Wilson.

my question to you all is that I’ve identified this barrel from CCC and it seems pretty turnkey except for the LMT cut. there’s little to no reviews on this however. how will this barrel run? or is there a better alternative, or custom barrel route I should go considering I’ll be 2k said and done on the barrel alone.

any advice would be appreciate, thanks.


r/longrange 1d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Bipod suggestions

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I'm mainly just plinking off a bag around 400-500 yards. Just wondering what some good bipods i could look at say under $200​

HOWA 1500

KRG bravo

Vortex venom 5-25


r/longrange 6h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Thoughts? WARNE one piece scope

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What yall think about this mount? Would be used for a Vortex Razor G3 6-36x56. I can get this whole one piece mount for 164 seashells.


r/longrange 18h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Looking for advice with upgrading rifle for competition, or just getting new one.

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So, I used to do a good bit of completion shooting with a club I was part of when I was in Highschool. I haven’t in a while and am no longer part of the club. I used their rifles or ones loaned to use by members for competitions.

Edit: quick clarification, I’m looking at mainly PRS and NLR competitions. So that’s what I’d do this build for.

I’m now trying to get back into it, and currently only have a Ruger American in 6.5 Creedmore. It’s a great gun and I love it. But am wondering if upgrading it would be worth it at all for competitions. Looking to do around 1000m, and maybe up to 1,200m, as I know that’s about the max range I can get out of 6.5.

So basically, my main question is, is it worth putting on a nicer chassis, and possibly upgrading the barrel in the future, or am I better off just saving up to get a nicer rifle?
If upgrading the Ruger American isn’t worth doing in this manner, I’d appreciate just being told that upfront, and I’ll save my money towards the precision rifle I’d like to get at some point anyways.

Ideally if I can build the Ruger to be a good competition gun, I’m willing to go up to maybe ~$1000 total. A couple of the more expensive chassis I was looking at where the ghost mountain group chassis, which would be ~$1,150 total, so I don’t want to do that unless it’s decently worth it, cheaper options where the sharp bros heatseaker chassis, which would be roughly $800, and then a couple of the cheaper MdT chassis in the $450-600 range.

Preferably, I’d like the chassis to have a folding stock, or a 1913 (or buffer tube I can convert to 1913) interface for sticks. As I would love to run this stock specifically:

https://1913stocks.com/the-s-a-s-tactical-folding-stock

But I’m open to any other chassis that are decent with folding stocks as well!

I’d also probably swap the trigger at somepoint as well.
The barrel is something I’d upgrade later once I felt the barrel was holding me back more than my shooting skills.


r/longrange 21h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts B14 Remove Remaining Paint?

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I've taken my new, unshot, b14 apart to check the torque values and clean it up. There is some paint already missing on the recoil lug area and the action areas are completely painted. Should I just finish removing the paint or leave it be? Thanks for the advice.


r/longrange 22h ago

Ammo help needed - I read the pinned posts 1:12 .223 Barrel Ammo Recommendations?

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I recently fell into a Remington 700 G LH in 223 and I’m looking for ammo recs for the snail like twist rate. I’m hoping someone may have some insight as to good ammo in the lighter grain variety. I have no idea why the original owner went with this set up, he’s also since passed so asking him is not particularly an option.

Goal: practice and potentially shooting in local PRS comps that go out to 600. And maybe getting my partner into PRS. I AM NOT TRYING TO BE COMPETITIVE, I JUST WANT TO HAVE MORE FUN MORE CHEAPER. I have a Tikka in 6.5CM if I want to be serious.

What I know about the rifle: Remington action, with what I’m speculating is an M24 profile barrel with a measured twist rate of 1:12. Stock appears to be a hybrid chassis.

What I know about ammo: Looks like, from charts online, 55 grain is the heaviest I can stabilize at 1-12. I’ve read that the PMC X-Tac is decent, and I’ve found some Bonefrog (out of stock) in 55 grain. I have some Blackhills that I plan to try, but being 77 grain I’m worried they won’t stabilize and my patterns will fall apart at 3-400. Federal XF556TR55 also looks like it may be decent?

Fun fact: I am not left handed! But I got the rifle for a steal and can comfortably hold the rifle right handed and work the bolt left, so I’m going to give it a try before I move it on to someone else. I’m also stuck at training for a while so I’m trying to have ammo on hand for when I get to go to a range day I can try several things.


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post What are yall working on today 🙂‍↕️

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91 Upvotes

r/longrange 1d ago

Competition related (PRS/NRL/F-Class/etc) Dope Cards

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New to this sport and will be competing in my first PRS match this weekend and am looking for ideas for dope cards...

what do you guys use for this?


r/longrange 1d ago

Reloading related When do you start doing charge weight load development with new brass?

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I'm reading it's not worth trying until new brass is fully fire formed. So if that's the case what charger weight do you roll with the first couple firings on new brass? I have lapua srp brass, h4350, and probably going to start with 140 eldms for my 6.5. thanks!


r/longrange 1d ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Cleaning/ barrel care….

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I have just taken the dive into long range and precision and I found my barrel has this pitting in the chamber collecting carbon now as well.

I have taken boretec to it, soaked, a ton of patches, and to boot JB bore paste with a drill (yes I did that).

Any help ?


r/longrange 2d ago

I suck at long range Wheat + Yellow Targets + Mirage = Ooof

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