r/longrange 23d ago

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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r/longrange Aug 19 '25

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. Yes, this means you. READ THIS FIRST, V6 - How to avoid the Flair of Shame and eternal ridicule

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

If you're looking to ask for advice, we ask that you review the following 10 core guides, as they cover the overwhelming majority of newcomer questions. If your question is not answered in these 10 guides, please see below for the 4 basic questions your post should answer when asking for suggestions or advice, especially when it comes to things to buy.

If you make a post that asks for information covered in the 10 core guides, or your post doesn't cover the 4 key questions below, your post may be deleted, or it may be given the Flair of Shame TM until you correct your post.

What's the Flair of ShameTM, you ask? You'll know it when you see it.

If at any time you have questions on the rules of the sub, this pinned post, the general FAQ, why you got the Flair of ShameTM or anything similar, please use the modmail function.

CORE GUIDES:

  1. The sub's official FAQ/WIKI, as curated by the community as a whole.
  2. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (ring)
  3. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, 338 Lapua, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (magnum or recoil)
  4. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  5. The official r/Longrange glossary - because words mean things (glossary)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles V2 (starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (starter)
  8. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (starter)
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (ranges)
  10. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please review before asking hunting-related questions, as hunting is not the core purpose of this sub. (hunting)

The 4 key questions:

  1. What do you want to do/buy, and WHY? - Do you want to buy a rifle for PRS competition? Picking a laser rangefinder for NRL Hunter matches? Looking at scopes for F-Class competition? A tripod because you think they're cool and want to have one when banging steel with friends? What you're planning to do has a lot of influence on what works well, what works poorly, and what is an utter waste of time, so the more detail you can provide the better.
  2. How far away do you want to do it/what do you want to use it for? - 300 yards? 1,000? 2,000? Distance matters, 'nuff said.
  3. How much are you willing to spend to do it? What's your budget in currency? Your idea of "on a budget" isn't going to be the same as everyone else's. Saying your budget is unlimited for a laser rangefinder may change when someone suggests one that costs over $10,000. We need to know how much you're willing to spend. It can be a hard limit, a range, or even an approximate - but you need to give a number.
  4. How much experience do you currently have with it? - Jumping straight into a 375 Cheytac rifle to shoot 2 miles isn't going to go well if you have never shot a rifle past 300. We need at least a basic idea of what your relevant skill level is in order to give advice and suggestions that go with your skill set. While including your experience with other shooting disciplines is helpful, it's not going to be as relevant as most new shooters expect. You can love shooting 10ga slugs all day long from a shotgun, but it doesn't mean starting off with a magnum is a good idea.

When answering these 4 questions in your post, give as much detail as you can. The more details you give the faster you'll get suggestions or advice and you'll get better quality too. Help us to help you. Please don't treat the sub like your own personal crowd sourced search engine.

More guides:

If your question is answered in these, you will probably get called out by the members of the sub for not reading them, but it's not automatic grounds for the Flair of Shame.

  1. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  2. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  3. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (zen)
  4. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  5. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes
  6. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  7. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  8. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  9. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  10. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  11. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  12. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  13. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  14. Our sub's policy on shilling....
  15. ....and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.
  16. The official longrange TOP Gun Calculator, and how to have realistic expectations of precision (top)
  17. Hollywood's guide to top-mounted red dots and target acquisition (Hint: you don't need a red dot)
  18. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetos)

Hunting-specific:

  1. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please read this before asking any questions related to hunting.
  2. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  3. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code. NOTE: Questions/discussion around shots on game past 300 yards will be removed from the sub. See the expanded policy link above. (hunting)
  4. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting, but also pertains to NRL Hunter matches) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (hunting)

MISC NOTES:

Quite a few guides/links feature a single word in parentheses and italics listed after them. If you use the phrase cheetofingers (all one word, no italics needed) followed by the word listed after a guide, you will summon the AutoModerator to reply to you with a link to that guide or guides. If the guide had (pews) after it, you could say cheetofingers pews in a post or comment in this sub to summon AutoMod with a link to that guide.

We've implemented the Flair of Shame as an official policy here instead of deleting posts that violated Rule #1 and the info in this pinned post. We felt that the flair was better than outright deleting posts while also helping long-standing members decide how much they want to participate in posts that have likely been covered time and time again. We're trying to strike a balance between encouraging members to read the info that the sub has cataloged, not wasting the time of established members that may be frustrated with revisiting the same topics repeatedly, and also not banishing new shooters that missed the pinned post to the freezer to never get help. Balancing those three things is a constant struggle, and one we're actively trying to get better at.


r/longrange 5h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Total Hunter KRG forend. Anyone use/experience with it?

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26 Upvotes

Hey all,

Just stumbled onto this one today. Anyone have experience with this company and aftermarket KRG forend?

**EDIT**

Company is Australian based. So its currently listed @ $695.00 AUD which at this time roughly translates to $685.00 CAD or $485.00 USD


r/longrange 15h ago

Review Post New Tube :,)

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111 Upvotes

New Vortex Razor G3 6x36-56
Told the ol' wife that I snagged it for cheap so if she ask.....it was only 500$ 😭

This thing has crazy clear glass and pretty much what everyone else was saying. Just beautiful. Was debating getting this or NX6 or MK5HD. Glad I chose this. This will be going onto a 6.5CM MPA Vanquish ARC CDG- Match Hellfire

Hopefully can take her out soon


r/longrange 18h ago

Rifle flex post Upgraded from a MDT ESS

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170 Upvotes

Balled out on a new to me MPA Chassis. 25 Creedmoor KS arms SA3R action. M40A5 + L96 Vibe


r/longrange 12h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts If you had the choice

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49 Upvotes

Hi, picture a little misleading they would both be in 6.5CM 24" barrel. Price Tikka 2.7K / CZ 3.1K

I can go shoot around 4 times per year 1000yards but involves usually an 1h ruck, thats all I would do occasional 1000yards on steel and pushing as far possible as ranges allows. Can shoot almost anyday 100yards so would like a 22lr trainer matching the chosen gun, as close a possible. Not chosen yet but spare 1k on side for beginner Optic. Shot many rifles up to 300yards.

If I may ask: What would you choose and why? (In rifle and trainer)


r/longrange 15h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Bipod suggestions

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49 Upvotes

I'm mainly just plinking off a bag around 400-500 yards. Just wondering what some good bipods i could look at say under $200​

HOWA 1500

KRG bravo

Vortex venom 5-25


r/longrange 2h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Looking for advice with upgrading rifle for competition, or just getting new one.

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So, I used to do a good bit of completion shooting with a club I was part of when I was in Highschool. I haven’t in a while and am no longer part of the club. I used their rifles or ones loaned to use by members for competitions.

Edit: quick clarification, I’m looking at mainly PRS and NLR competitions. So that’s what I’d do this build for.

I’m now trying to get back into it, and currently only have a Ruger American in 6.5 Creedmore. It’s a great gun and I love it. But am wondering if upgrading it would be worth it at all for competitions. Looking to do around 1000m, and maybe up to 1,200m, as I know that’s about the max range I can get out of 6.5.

So basically, my main question is, is it worth putting on a nicer chassis, and possibly upgrading the barrel in the future, or am I better off just saving up to get a nicer rifle?
If upgrading the Ruger American isn’t worth doing in this manner, I’d appreciate just being told that upfront, and I’ll save my money towards the precision rifle I’d like to get at some point anyways.

Ideally if I can build the Ruger to be a good competition gun, I’m willing to go up to maybe ~$1000 total. A couple of the more expensive chassis I was looking at where the ghost mountain group chassis, which would be ~$1,150 total, so I don’t want to do that unless it’s decently worth it, cheaper options where the sharp bros heatseaker chassis, which would be roughly $800, and then a couple of the cheaper MdT chassis in the $450-600 range.

Preferably, I’d like the chassis to have a folding stock, or a 1913 (or buffer tube I can convert to 1913) interface for sticks. As I would love to run this stock specifically:

https://1913stocks.com/the-s-a-s-tactical-folding-stock

But I’m open to any other chassis that are decent with folding stocks as well!

I’d also probably swap the trigger at somepoint as well.
The barrel is something I’d upgrade later once I felt the barrel was holding me back more than my shooting skills.


r/longrange 5h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts B14 Remove Remaining Paint?

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I've taken my new, unshot, b14 apart to check the torque values and clean it up. There is some paint already missing on the recoil lug area and the action areas are completely painted. Should I just finish removing the paint or leave it be? Thanks for the advice.


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post What are yall working on today šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļø

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r/longrange 6h ago

Ammo help needed - I read the pinned posts 1:12 .223 Barrel Ammo Recommendations?

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I recently fell into a Remington 700 G LH in 223 and I’m looking for ammo recs for the snail like twist rate. I’m hoping someone may have some insight as to good ammo in the lighter grain variety. I have no idea why the original owner went with this set up, he’s also since passed so asking him is not particularly an option.

Goal: practice and potentially shooting in local PRS comps that go out to 600. And maybe getting my partner into PRS. I AM NOT TRYING TO BE COMPETITIVE, I JUST WANT TO HAVE MORE FUN MORE CHEAPER. I have a Tikka in 6.5CM if I want to be serious.

What I know about the rifle: Remington action, with what I’m speculating is an M24 profile barrel with a measured twist rate of 1:12. Stock appears to be a hybrid chassis.

What I know about ammo: Looks like, from charts online, 55 grain is the heaviest I can stabilize at 1-12. I’ve read that the PMC X-Tac is decent, and I’ve found some Bonefrog (out of stock) in 55 grain. I have some Blackhills that I plan to try, but being 77 grain I’m worried they won’t stabilize and my patterns will fall apart at 3-400. Federal XF556TR55 also looks like it may be decent?

Fun fact: I am not left handed! But I got the rifle for a steal and can comfortably hold the rifle right handed and work the bolt left, so I’m going to give it a try before I move it on to someone else. I’m also stuck at training for a while so I’m trying to have ammo on hand for when I get to go to a range day I can try several things.


r/longrange 23h ago

Competition related (PRS/NRL/F-Class/etc) Dope Cards

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New to this sport and will be competing in my first PRS match this weekend and am looking for ideas for dope cards...

what do you guys use for this?


r/longrange 1d ago

Reloading related When do you start doing charge weight load development with new brass?

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I'm reading it's not worth trying until new brass is fully fire formed. So if that's the case what charger weight do you roll with the first couple firings on new brass? I have lapua srp brass, h4350, and probably going to start with 140 eldms for my 6.5. thanks!


r/longrange 20h ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Cleaning/ barrel care….

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I have just taken the dive into long range and precision and I found my barrel has this pitting in the chamber collecting carbon now as well.

I have taken boretec to it, soaked, a ton of patches, and to boot JB bore paste with a drill (yes I did that).

Any help ?


r/longrange 2d ago

I suck at long range Wheat + Yellow Targets + Mirage = Ooof

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r/longrange 1d ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Would you take this trade ?

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Context: listing a motorcycle for sale that’s worth about 2500$, guy wants to trade a masterpiece arms 6.5 creedmoor comp pro with a vortex venom 3-15, plus 200$. I guess my thoughts are what are the chances of being able to sell this for a decent price? I see the range for used ones can be 1800-2000 ish, if I’m not mistaken. but I understand this is kinda a niche hobby which shops have told me comp rifles aren’t the easiest to sell. He told me he hasn’t shot a single round through it but my buddies who regularly shoot said the pictures tell a different story, realistically if it was actually brand new I would just try to flip it but I would kinda want to put a few rounds through it before I sell it. so does it look like it hasn’t been shot? If it’s brand new how much could I sell it for realistically? And if I did shoot it how much would the value decrease? Also he said the bubble level was damaged when it shipped but he said it was only a couple bucks, so what would you guys do? Sorry for all the questions šŸ˜…


r/longrange 1d ago

I Gots Them Tikka Toes Tikka goodness

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Long time lurker, first time poster from Australia. This is my Tikka T3X Super Varmint in 6.5CM that's in an MDT XRS chassis because I like it 😁

Tikka T3X Super Varmint

MDT XRS chassis

Element Optics Titan 5-25x56

Accu-Tac FC2 bipod

MDT Comp Brake

Currently shooting Norma Golden Target 130gr, but it kind of likes everything. I've had good luck worh Hornady ELD-M and also Sako TRG

I'll probably end up upgrading my scope a little further down the track too, but this is it for now. Very happy with it, but I think I'm just happy to be able to go shooting which is something I've wanted to do for a long time.


r/longrange 1d ago

RANT Why dont more companies make ambidextrous chassis?

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Why dont more companies make ambi chassis? Im a left handed shooter and have alot of struggle finding the right chassis or if i do, they're out of stock. I have 4 manufacturers came into mind that are amazing for lefties; Vision, XLR, MPA and JP with their APAC.

All of them inlets their chassis in both left and right configuration. I get it for the composite based stocks (Manners, Mcmillan or KRG with their plastic) but full metal ones?

PS: I dont live in US/Canada

@mdt pls fix.


r/longrange 1d ago

I Gots Them Tikka Toes New rifle, Left hand. Tight group first time out. Seems Tikka TAC A1 works for me.

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Update: there is also a 10 shot group in these pics.

I wrestled with a batch of decisions trying to buy a wrong-way long range rifle. I had a strong preference for a production rifle and really wanted to avoid the extended wait and delivery times of some custom shops.

One thing I noticed was that many of the larger manufacturers made left hand models in their lower grade rifles, but the higher end models were heavily right hand only. That wasn’t matching my goals. At the range, people were nice enough to let me handle their various rifles and I appreciate their generosity sharing what they know. While many of the target rifles had a flat forend with ARCA rail built in I did not like the feel of that flat bottom. I understand why many chassis are made that way. I just don’t like it. In any case a good M-LOK forend provided solid options.

I actually ordered a Tikka T3x TAC A1, added a scope, M-LOK bipod and short 60mm ARCA rail.

Then it was off to the range yesterday. Laser bore-sighted the new rifle at home, and the first three-shot group is the circular target. Adjusted the scope, shot some steel and then shot a 10 shot group. Both targets are posted with Ballistic-X notes. Factory 6.5 CM ammo was Norma 130 gr, then some Lapua 136 gr, and Hornady 140 gr ELD-M for the 10 shot group.

Time to start working on handloads. Will post toes once 10 shot group size under one inch.


r/longrange 22h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Printable Mlok storage container

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So, I’m trying to find a storage container around 1ā€x2ā€x4ā€, give or take, with MLOK attachment points.
The idea is to have the container’s axis in line with the chassis’ axis to keep it as low profile as possible. I want to keep all the small tools specific to my chassis and scope in it so I never have to find my range bag or dig through it to find the right tools.

Anyone seen anything like this?

Thanks yall!


r/longrange 2d ago

Bubba's Pissin' Hawt Reloads I did it.

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199 Upvotes

Went with a friend yesterday to Thunder Valley Precision in Ohio. Earlier this year we decided that hitting a mile was one of our goals, and yesterday we finally checked it off.
I made multiple hits on the 1-mile target using what is probably one of the less conventional rifles for the job: a 1903A3 that was re-barreled to .280 Ackley Improved with a 26ā€ 1:9.5 twist barrel. It was launching 162gr Hornady ELD-Ms at right around 3,000 fps.
Honestly, the thing that surprised me most wasn’t the difficulty, it was the flight time. Waiting roughly three seconds after breaking the shot before seeing the impact is a surreal experience.
The rifle definitely isn’t an optimized ELR setup, but it was a blast proving it could get the job done. Happy to share load data, DOPE, or rifle details if anyone is interested. Is anyone else shooting surplus rifles at these longer distances?


r/longrange 1d ago

Competition help needed - I read the pinned posts Update: PRS match in the rain

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57 Upvotes

Thank you to everyone that gave suggestions on my last post. Went through the match stayed mostly dry and warm. Shower caps was a phenomenal suggestion that also worked for the uspsa match I did this weekend as well. For the most part it was fairly light rain but for 20-30 min it was a down pour. I was able to get 3rd overall and 1st in Sportmens. I was also able to get 3 out of 4 shots on steel out at 1029yds. I did however make a serious brain fart on a wind call that cost me many points. I had a ton of fun and learned a lot.


r/longrange 1d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Magpul vs AI vs MDT magazines for 308 AICS rifle

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Which of these are you guys using? Seems like the military likes AI and competition guys like MDT. Is Magpul worth getting at all?


r/longrange 1d ago

Cheeto-fingered Bergara First bolt gun

13 Upvotes

After multiple gas guns I finally bought my first bolt gun. Its a 6.5cm B14 hmr and I have a couple questions. Ive read all the posts about the differences between the HMR and the Wilderness. Am I missing out by not waiting for a Wilderness? They had the HMR in stock.

Second question. I've read posts about making sure there is no paint between the stock and the action. Besides that is there anything else I should check for before I set it up and go out for the first time?


r/longrange 2d ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Advice Wanted M-LOK to ARCA

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I'd like to add the option to setup off of an ARCA mount tripod, curious what brands people are using and what recommendation's y'all have. Or is it all just overrated and I should use a bag on a tripod?