I try to help people type themselves something but I’m literally sooo atrocious at it can someone help me yo 😭🙏ik Yall different around the board but how do know KNOW someone is ESTP ?

I work in finance. What ab yall

Describe it, what is most satisfying part about your bream lifestyle and why?

Has anyone ever told them to just stfu? Or think it? What’s your type if so?

Hey. I was just wondering if there might be an older, like about late 40s, single estp guy here that wants to talk? I am istp F.

I like the gym, outdoors, travel, cinema, setting up my sports massage/gardening(?) side business.

It might just be a boring conversation, but it might not?

As an ENFJ, I adore ESTPs company and value their opinion about me but wouldn’t admit it to both not boost their ego or come off too sentimental. However I know here I can ask— so!
do you ESTPs appreciate it when someone you admitted simply yet bluntly to that you’re close to them if they sticked to you just as much as you are sticking/trying to stick to them? Or does it feel acceptable only coming from you but weird or too much when it’s the other way around?

Caroline, or The Epic Poem of a Man Losing Control of Both His Libido and the English Language

This song begins as masculine folklore.
“Listen, man” places us inside a conversation already in progress, where Caroline exists first as rumor. The speaker has supposedly acquired a woman so beautiful that other men require confirmation. She is compared to celebrity archetypes before she is described as an individual, which establishes the song’s governing perspective: Caroline is simultaneously lover, legend, status symbol, and supernatural event.
The opening call-and-response gives the track the feeling of oral tradition. One man has seen the impossible; another demands testimony. The ad-libs operate like a Greek chorus, except the chorus is drunk, impressed, and yelling “it’s lit.”

The hook is intentionally elementary:
“Caroline, you divine / Mighty fine”
The rhyme is almost childlike. “Divine” and “fine” are not subtle descriptions, but that is the point. Caroline has overwhelmed the speaker’s rhetorical equipment. He cannot construct an elaborate Petrarchan sonnet. His vocabulary collapses into monosyllables, repetition, and profanity.
The song repeatedly suggests that desire destroys sophistication. By the ending, even the phrase “bad thang” disintegrates into fragments:
“Bad, b-b-bad, thang, thang…”
Language ceases to communicate information and becomes pure rhythm. The speaker no longer describes Caroline. He chants her category until the category itself loses meaning. Desire has eaten syntax.

The narrator as horny trickster:
The speaker builds himself through ridiculous exaggeration. He is not merely confident; he is creating a comic mythology around his masculinity.
The “G-raffe” pun is particularly important because it is profoundly stupid and delivered with absolute confidence. That combination defines the song’s persona. He is charismatic enough to make linguistic failure feel like invention.
Likewise, the contrast between “98 Degrees” and “300” transforms a reference to a boy band into an absurd thermodynamic threat. The joke works because it combines incompatible systems:
celebrity reference,
temperature,
masculine hierarchy,
competitive intimidation.
He is hotter than the other man not metaphorically, but apparently by 202 degrees. The opponent must therefore keep moving or perish from heat exposure.
The “Chief Keef” wordplay performs a similar function. Proper nouns become verbs, sounds become meanings, and cultural references are treated as toys. This is not polished metaphorical coherence. It is associative verbal momentum. The speaker’s mind keeps grabbing whatever is nearby and converting it into swagger.

The speaker initially rejects emotional and spiritual conversation:
“Don’t wanna hear / About ya horoscope or what the future holds”
This is an anti-romantic command. He refuses destiny, compatibility, introspection, or any discussion of the future. He wants immediate physical experience. Even disagreement should not be discussed but converted into sex:
“Don’t wanna talk it out, can we fuck it out?”
But the song quietly betrays this philosophy.
Near the end, the speaker suddenly declares:
“Baby, I want forever”
This is the central contradiction. The man who rejects “what the future holds” ultimately asks for permanence. His sexual impatience has been disguising attachment.
The song therefore moves from:
I do not want to discuss the future** **to “I want an entire future with you.”
The emotional revelation is not that the speaker becomes less vulgar. He remains exactly as vulgar. The revelation is that beneath the performance of appetite, he has developed a genuine desire for continuity.

The Tarantino reference initially presents sexuality as spectacle:
“Let’s get gory, like a Tarantino movie”
Sex becomes cinematic excess: loud, physical, stylized, and slightly dangerous. The speaker imagines intimacy as a set piece.
But the song later returns to cinematic language in a much softer form:
“Great scenes might be great / But I love your bloopers”
This is easily the song’s strongest emotional turn.
At first, he wants the Tarantino scene: heightened, choreographed, memorable. Later, he admits that what he loves is what falls outside the performance. Bloopers are unguarded moments. They reveal awkwardness, laughter, error, interruption, and the person underneath the image.
Caroline begins the song as a flawless “dime piece,” almost a celebrity composite. By loving her bloopers, the speaker finally loves something that cannot function as status. Her imperfections belong to intimacy rather than spectacle.
The line also retroactively changes the song. All the absurd puns and clumsy metaphors become the narrator’s own bloopers. He is attracted to imperfection because he is himself gloriously imperfect.

“Perfect for the urgent.”
This is the philosophical thesis buried inside the strip-club trumpet fanfare:
“Perfect’s for the urgent / Baby, I want forever”
“Urgent” desire requires an idealized object. When someone is wanted immediately, perfection is useful because the admirer does not need to understand them. They only need to project onto them.
Forever requires something else.
A lasting relationship cannot depend upon uninterrupted perfection because real people eventually reveal embarrassment, boredom, exhaustion, contradiction, and error. To want forever is therefore to prefer the blooper reel over the promotional image.
The narrator begins by calling Caroline “divine,” but ends by loving the evidence that she is human.

The song’s masculinity is loud, sexual, competitive, and deliberately excessive. The speaker boasts, threatens rivals, describes his sexual competence, and repeatedly receives validation from surrounding voices.
But the ad-libs also expose masculinity as collaborative theater. His swagger is constantly being affirmed by an imaginary audience:
“That’s true”
“It’s lit”
“Fuck you thought?”
He is not simply expressing confidence. He is producing confidence with the assistance of a hype squad.
That makes the eventual tenderness more revealing. “I want forever” slips through a structure designed for boasting. The sincere confession arrives almost accidentally, as though the persona briefly left a door unlocked.

One limitation, or perhaps part of the song’s design, is that Caroline never speaks. She is described, desired, instructed, and elevated, but she remains silent. Most of the song constructs her through the male gaze.
The “bloopers” line partially humanizes her, but even there, we only know that the speaker enjoys her imperfections. We do not know what she wants, thinks, or believes.
That absence reinforces the song’s focus. This is less a portrait of Caroline than a portrait of a man experiencing Caroline. She is the gravitational force; the lyrics document the debris orbiting her.
Final judgment
Caroline is a comic love poem disguised as a barrage of sexual boasts. Its narrator attempts to maintain the posture of a man interested only in beauty, pleasure, and immediate gratification. Yet the song’s emotional logic steadily undermines him.
He rejects the future, then asks for forever.
He praises perfection, then chooses bloopers.
He treats intimacy as a Tarantino spectacle, then discovers affection in the discarded footage.
He begins with Caroline as a “dime piece” and ends with Caroline as someone whose mistakes he wants to keep witnessing.
The masterpiece is not that the song transcends vulgarity. It is that sincerity crawls directly through the vulgarity wearing knee pads and calling itself a G-raffe.

Do you personally think you are or nah?
Have you ever done something you ended up regretting due to peer pressure?

Most of my friends are ENTPs, and when i play sandbox videogames with chat, like Minecraft i also meet and make friends with mostly ENTPs. Maybe that's because i don't like feelers and judgers?

Why or why not in detail (based irl is better)

So am I the only one who looks down on ppl who are over-sensitive and emotional?

I recently dropped a friend despite being nice to me because bro is just so emotional and sensitive to the point that it’s super draining. I get being emotional over a win or a movie or something because that’s NORMAL but imagine y’all as a friend group were just having fun, saying y’all’s usual inside jokes then bro’s over-sensitivity takes over the conversation and it suddenly kills the mood because of something SO SMALL, it could barely hurt you.

I hate pessimism and over-sensitivity. He left the group chat we were talking in and we kinda kicked him out of the group sooo byeee! Don’t come back we’re so much healthier without you

EDIT: so I did realize that I went a little far on some of my replies and left out some context. I already expected these comments but I’m grateful for y’all’s criticisms cuz it would be helpful for me to change.

*I made an account for this lol.

Heyyyy! I was scrolling thru pdb app and noticed some estp people with  an enneagram typing of 9 and I find them pretty interesting.

I want to learn more about you if you exist here. 

Are you an 8w9 or 9w8? If you can share your interests, gender, career and such, pretty much anything and that would be cool. 

I've 28M always left parts of me out of the picture. Parts I didn't think relevant to the outcome. I'd wanted someone to get to know me beyond my online profile. To love me for my character.

Man or woman, you might find it relatable.

I would tell of my positive inner state, my personal vulnerability, my need for connection and support, and my aim moving forward.

For someone with emotional intelligence, you've done essential healing work. You might want someone to see you.

I might even make side posts including my riddling wits and strong masculine benefits in some sexually suggestive material.

I'd only just realized what I was doing was advertising my personal attraction to smart people.

Yet, I wouldn't share hobbies, finite details on my career path, or even what makes up the woman I'd love. All of the...dumb things, because I valued connection. I'd attempt to exclude people, create incredibly strict and isolating requirements, and expect the numbers to shed the braindead like it was a science. I wanted so little, leaving out the desirables, yet most people wouldn't get past the first few paragraphs, attacking me for writing. I was targeting a thought form, by communicating my mind, believing it would capture the woman right for me. The whole post would sit, a stack of undeniable proof of competence, and I'd get zero messages.

Zero Messages, Negative Comments, Bans for Being Different, some women would be smitten, but none compatible for me to do the right thing with.

I might not ever make a post this thorough and relatable again. But if it works, I might not have to write one to that end. Many people enjoy the talk of commonalities and they think that's what a person is. I think a bit differently, but I'll play along with this. Let me just set the record straight before giving it a spin. We're souls. We each have roles. Much of what you're doing makes up who you are, but you are so much more. I love you.

I spent many years healing from Narcissistic Abuse, and that gave me my truth. My entire life was a lie, and I had to piece together the skin that was torn from me to feel whole again. The world that I formerly knew was forgotten, and I had disciplined myself into virtue and confidence in my own leadership. To find the light at the end of the tunnel, and discover that that light was within me. At the end, I was it. I am now a gift, the source of truth that many come to for help when they need self-awareness.

My life being what it is, the largest obstacle still not properly set in motion, I'm meant for more. I haven't been triggered in years, yet I'm sure I still have work to do. Like anyone else can say, I'm not perfect. If I were, I wouldn't be asking for a girlfriend.

There is a part of me that wants the support of a romantic companion. If I were to be a starseed preaching of universal harmony, I don't think I'd want this. Alas, I am human, conscious, and out in the open. Earth is my plain, and I intend to honor it while I'm here by making it my domain. That's why I'm asking for a little more charm under my arms. A girl that would challenge me, a woman that would unravel me, and a partner to invest in goals with.

So an extensive bit about me:

I'm in touch with myself. Unlike a large portion of the population, I self-reflect. A lot. I invented my own self-reflection and healing modality. I mirrored back the lies I told myself, and when honoring what would serve my health, I developed consecutive streaks of self-awareness by doing the thing that was right for me, and others.

Without having undergone such intensive care, it wouldn't matter how I got here. Even if I shared the exact same struggles, I would be a completely different person. Life is very much how you respond to it. That's why critical thinking, the capacity to question one's own thought process, is so invaluable a development of unbiased self-reflection. That's something ai, other people, even a journal doesn't do. You have to be very intentional with the words you give power to and speak over your life's truth.

So that gave me me. It's important to know. I now help others in their growth with their mental and emotional health. Wellness. Well-being. Think creative conflict transformation in group dynamics. The transformation of relational trauma. Transcending suffering. Transmuting your pain into your purpose. Transformer. Yeah. That kind of deep inner work. The most meaningful and most diffcult, yet it yields the most results in every part of a person's life.

Quite honestly, I believe most of people's problems would be resolved if they learned to self-reflect in an objective way. To act on that newfound conscious awareness by putting to death cycles of thought patterns that spiral them downward and follow through on what serves them so they can uplift their state and continue upward. If everyone could face themselves, and help themselves, the world would most practically and effectively become the best place - because loving the self and the other at the same time becomes one's natural default state.

To make my message come to light, I'm integrating a need for online presence to be extensive. I can't make the level of impact I need to make without it. To proceed in hiding would be to deny my light, and deny that light to shine for others to be inspired by and to find their own light. If I'm to draw it out of anyone, I can't be helping people behind the scenes and in the darkness anymore. I must present.

My deeper more hidden gifts reside in entertainment, performing, and doing things musically as well as physically that draw in the world more than any other medium can. My life as an artist, a performing artist, is intentionally weak in the universe's current path for me. Yet, the entertaining side of my personality is a feeling I am actively opening up to the public to create interpersonal harmony.

That space is intended to be the birthplace for everything beyond it. Spreading awareness from my pocket, while entertaining connection that won't put a stop to it. Being solely educative, or solely personal, or solely entertaining isn't' enough for me. There is a middle channel that I can fathom the world needs, and it isn't random.

This would progressively be shaped by podcasting, forward unto dawn and into the direction of holding such a container and more through live streaming. This is a major skill, while much of the world is ashamed of how people present themselves in this internet age.

Online community containers, meetings between leaders, interviews, collaborations, actual call to actions within conscious demographics for people to commit to following through with, e-learning, live in person events, speaking engagements, concerts and a movement of consciousness...Do you see the pattern? Everything is communication and presents toward the forward momentum that is connection.

At the risk of not being able to control relationships, this is the grand hull of my mission. Due to the nature of how unpredictable people are, it's also what can sink it.

So that's a bit on my story, and where I'm going. I'll leave out my list of accomplishments.

Now for hobbies:

Honestly, if you gave me money and told me to go have fun, I'd probably A) invest it in my projects which help me draw closer to my goals, 😎 deepen my learning and self-education, C) spend it on something practical that I think would improve my quality of life, D) find a way to gift or reward someone I know, E) just have fun.

I am wired for growth. Because the things I enjoy are so in alignment with my talents and abilities, or what I'm good at, I genuinely love the work that I do as it's on point with what I'm meant to be doing. I'm drawing out of me the expression that best breathes life into the world around me. And it improves myself as well. Not only do I find that enjoyable, but I also find it rewarding.

Here are a few talents of mine:

Martial Arts, Speaking, Healing, Leading, Animals, Dancing, Entertaining, Performing, Rapping, Writing, Singing

If I had to write down other things outside of that, I'd signal that I enjoy learning. Not sure if that qualifies, haha. Music and making music, err err, talents. Making videos...This factors into work. See how conflicted I am?

I'll consider these anything I might give my time to...

playing pool on a pool table,

hiking and exploration,

competition,

select videogames,

making people smile every chance I get,

anime,

good movies,

swimming at the beach,

self-reflection,

fishing,

reading (not my favorite/best learning modality),

side hustles,

I don't drink or do drugs. I've never done anything beyond weed and alcohol. Given that my spiritual journey was conducted through the transformation of pain, there isn't much benefit in doing any mind opening substances either.

At home, I don't intend on living any sense of a conventional lifestyle. The sooner I am able to, I'd prefer to exist in collaboration within the collective container of an intentional community. Preferably, one I'd build. Yet, I'm not opposed to joining one because the former requires a large amount of resources and people, and building one would require experience and resourceful people. This solves hundreds of problems and creates a support system that any nuclear household removed from life as a tribe is consequentially infested with.

Contradictory to what's conventional, I might be open to having a traditional partner in the sense of a relationship dynamic and the roles fulfilled within it. They call it a trad-wife, or traditional wife. However, I'd imagined my partner would help me in business. She'd have complimentary skills and traits that I don't have, and she likely doesn't have mine. This means she fills the gaps that I can't fill, and our mutually benenficial structure of a relationship gives us a solid build together.

My work life is centered around operating my own business/es, so I'm often focused on serving people that need my help. This includes risk and reward, and is not for everyone. If someone entered my life, they'd need to understand that the cost of operating a business is the quality time, funds, and energy that would otherwise be dedicated to her or other parts of one's life in the relationship and investing it toward the business. Yet, it leads to and funds a freedom and joy that other qualities in life would imprison you by. It's less predictable and determinable earlier on, but that can change long-term. A large portion of success in the relationship would be about making that possible.

As for my character:

I'm at peace within myself. Neutral. Never triggered. And can be vulnerable.

My thoughts are focused and centered on connection. Give me friction, and I'll get us back to neutral instantly. If you're crazy there's a very valid maybe that we won't connect towards that. But listen, and we've got ourselves in a good position.

I've looked myself in the mirror and transformed thousands of thought patterns. With that comes wisdom, emotional intelligence, a whole lot of self-awareness, and a lot of confidence as I built momentum in my life early on. There's not many potentials that can challenge me and my thinking. I tend to be right, yet I don't have to be, and I'm more open than anyone you know to be. It's important to understand that with these developed traits comes heat, and you will be put under the fire by being a part of me.

I want a drama free environment. The last thing I want after a day of challenging peoples' beliefs, my own, and becoming a better person for it is to have my free time caught up in being challenged some more. A feminine woman in touch with herself, and my masculine containment are best when they're compatible, not resisted. I'm not a man that's hard to open. I'm freely open and completely vulnerable. So I need someone who won't make me closed, because I can trust her with all of me being exposed. A woman who likes to violate that would be a hard NO.

I'm a bit unusual for a man. I don't like sports, cars, politics, bars, gyms, or celebrity stars. There's other things to give my attention to, and exercise that's more thrilling than one place you'd dedicate yourself to. I value connection, communication, people, relationships. Realistically, these are my gifts and what I'm here for. I'd rather double down on it than do all the other things someone else can have a thing for.

Having a relationship would be a positive source of connection and support. A reminder of my well-being as a man, and the positive effects of my goals moving toward. Physical support is more of what I'm looking for. Mentally and emotionally, I don't have a need. Yet of course, I want to be seen. Spiritually would indicate alignment with me, and what I'm meant to be doing.

I'm attracted to intelligence. I won't describe the ideal woman because most of what's there would be some form of a mirror image of me, my character, and the values I have as a part of me. Someone who knows how to love, and love healthily. You don't have to be perfect. Don't even think so. You just have to be worth it. The amount of life invested in a romantic relationship is the most important return on investment one could ever find in a decision. Protect your life with it.

Thank you for your time. While I didn't let my entertaining personality shine here, or have my riddling intelligence draw any hard lines to hear, younger or older, your age is not a concern for me. What matters is energetic compatibility. If this post it up, let me know how you relate. Please be thoughtful. Your intention matters. I love you.

What characteristics do you look for in a partner? The whole parts to compatibilty and connection...

hi, i think i'm an istp or estp 7w6.

but i'm not sure because i'm social to people who attract me it can be there aura, personality, there look style or beauty, i like to discover new people and i love them instently.

i'm sure i'm not esfp or isfp because i am very analytic (ti)

how can i be sure i'm ESTP i'm quiet in group and not really talkative so maybe istp but istp said i'm more like an estp lol ?

they are BORING and INSECURE and CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT OTHERS OPINIONS. it’s exhausting. i’m making new memories every month and they haven’t don’t shit for years, i cut off SO MANY PEOPLE in my life it’s crazy, bye bye multi year long friendships, you bitches dragging me down

i’m not addicted to nicotine, but it’s really easy to make new friends with a cigarette in your hand, everyone opens up to you so easily and ease themselves in your presence like a luxurious bubble bath, i always carry a pack with me and i never smoke alone 😹

Not sure how I can truly properly articulate this, but I'm gonna try...

I'm a female ESTP - I seem to outwardly present ENFP, but I am assuredly not internally. I am a spirited and independent woman, I have strong opinions and will voice them, BUT I think one of the things people misunderstand about me is "people-pleasing tendencies". I am not like this all the times, but sometimes I just don't want to deal with shit and will just smile and go along with things so people can get off my (non-existent) dick.

What comes across as people-pleasing tendencies to others is often, at times, me trying to make life easier for myself, going along to get along so people shut up and leave me alone. Or, if I have another motive for going along with something (e.g. because I know it will benefit me in the long run, or because I know I can mold the situation in a preferable way later on). Not at all in a superhero villain way! Just...I like to know how to play my social cards, and I never like to die on hills not worth dying on.

So yeah...I'm a people pleaser if it'll make my life easier and I can work with the situation, or mold it later. I HATE, hate, hate dealing with people breathing down my neck, and I will do what I can to change the situation to avoid this - even if it means pleasing others or playing along.

Anyone else relate???

Most of my family and friends are xNFxs, and they tend to not play this game like I do. For instance, my ENFP boyfriend is incredibly stubborn, and will die on any hill if it is important to his morality or "true self", I guess. I am not that way at all and I will make concessions to go along. I think part of this is I am a realist and can predict outcomes about how these kinds of situations, when fought against, would be handled...

i of course plan out my day with my little to do list, but my life? fuck no. iva had too many near death experiences to do such a thing, i’m never taking my time or life for granted. if i want something im getting it now. i do new shit everyday because my boredom is killing me. consequences do not exist!!! i have gotten myself in so much trouble and i always get away with it EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

glad i found this subreddit, i felt like i found my people despite standing out in every room i enter

Nope, turns out I’m just a guy who happens to write and enjoys analysis for mental stimulation rather than abstract thinking. Cool stuff. I feel like the type does describe me better once I look past the common descriptions of the profile.

Cheers yall