I’m sure there are gonna be people in the comments that will be rude, I’ve been reading through this sub for a couple of weeks now, so I’m prepared for those comments, but I really do hope that some people here will be able to offer some sort of thoughtful input or advice.
My son is 25, I’ve got four sons and one daughter total. My three oldest sons rent a really nice house together about 10 minutes away from me. The house gets a little dusty and might need mopping or counters wiped down every once in a while but overall they have nice furniture and keep the house in good working order. It looks very clean and usually looks nothing like a typical bachelor pad. All three of them do a great job with it.
Regarding hygiene, four out of my five kids have excellent hygiene. They shower every day, they wear clean clothing, they keep up with their laundry, etc.
My daughter had a little stretch when she was like 15 or 16 when her hygiene slipped, but she was going through massive depression, and when we addressed the depression, the hygiene issues were fixed inadvertently along with it, and she’s incredibly clean and hygienic now at the age of 21.
So I understand that mental health can impact this stuff, I totally get it. I also get that neurodivergence can impact it massively. I’m neurodivergent myself.
But I am encountering a level of hygiene issues that I just can’t seem to make an impact on with my oldest son. Mind you hygiene was one of the main reasons that I left my ex. My oldest son‘s (and all of my kids for that matter) dad. He wasn’t like that when I met him, but as time went on his hygiene got worse and worse, and combined with a lot of other behaviors that also deteriorated, I wound up leaving him after years of feeling like I had to parent my own husband.
Unfortunately, my oldest son seems to have picked up on these bad habits. It’s so frustrating. This is such a sweet, talented and genuinely good looking kid. As his mom, it breaks my heart because I know how offputting bad hygiene is to people. He’s already very introverted and I know going out into the world smelling like BO is only going to keep him isolated. I’ve had conversations ranging from incredibly subtle, to very positive and motivating, to empathic, explaining my own struggles with executive function, and things only seem to work for a couple of days.
Maybe a week or two maximum. We’ve tried him on different medication’s, but he’s never really found one that was a good fit for his ADHD. Stimulants suppressed his appetite so much that he was straight up forgetting to eat, even if we were setting alarms.
I tried habit stacking with him. We bought a cute little refrigerator to put in his room and put his favorite brand of coffee drink in it. And I said OK let’s habit stack, let’s turn this into something positive. Took him to the store and had him pick out a whole bunch of grooming products that he really liked. And then I added in a really nice combination hair and body product which I know isn’t necessarily perfect, but I figured on days where he doesn’t have any motivation, he’s not overstimulated by too many things to pick from and has a backup option that is super simple. And I was like, all right let’s make this self-care that you deserve, not something that you have to do. I explained to him why it was so important to me. I said I love you and you deserve to have friends and to be treated well by people, but if I’m being honest with you, hygiene issues are going to impact the way that you received out in the world and he understood and agreed. I told him, “You can wake up, you can use the restroom, take your shower, and then come relax in your room with one of your favorite coffee drinks and just chill a little bit before work.” Again these conversations only work for a couple of days or maximum a couple of weeks and then the habits come back and the intense BO comes back.
He works in demolition and junk removal for my current husband‘s business. My three oldest sons work for the business. Mind you my current husband is the cleanest blue-collar worker on earth I swear. Very well groomed, goes to the barber every two weeks, showers once or twice a day. Works out, washes his laundry like two or three times after each job to get it super clean. So do his brothers. They love the job, they all get along great, but my son will literally come home from work after working in the Arizona sun, sweating, in his work clothes, and just exist in the house that way until bedtime. He’s even laid down in bed in his work clothes to sleep in them.
It bothers his brothers, because they live with him and have to ride in the work truck with him. They were patient for a while, but they’ve been very point-blank with him. Like you are impacting our workday, you need to shower. Even if it gets through to him, even if he starts showering regularly like I said it drops off after a week or so. Or he will shower and then literally forget to put on deodorant before work so the shower is a moot point by the end of the day.
He’ll get a little bit quiet or defensive, but for the most part, he’s actually surprisingly receptive to the conversations and then when I check in with him after the good habits drop off a couple of weeks later, he just is so down and defeated, and maybe a little defensive. And it’s just like we have to start the cycle of trying to motivate him all over again. If he lived on his own and didn’t work for the business, I’d be like you know what you’re a grown-up, deal with the consequences of your actions. But it’s impacting my two other kids who live with him and work with him, it’s causing him to remain incredibly socially isolated, and I know he’s actually deeply depressed about it.
He is on an antidepressant that he believes helps a little, but he said for some reason he just struggles so bad with the hygiene. Also, I just wanna clarify, he does have ADHD and it really impacts his executive function, but he is very low support needs. This kid is very functional in the rest of his life. He has a pet snake that has this gorgeous, huge enclosure, he’s researched every aspect of it, spent hundreds of dollars getting the humidity in the environment perfect. It’s one of the healthiest looking snakes I’ve ever seen. He’s a talented artist. He’s just very witty and like I said even on the surface he’s a great looking kid. We just cannot get this hygiene issue sorted out. And when I tell you, BO, just to clarify, this isn’t a hint, this is like it stings your eyes when you have to be in close proximity to him. There’s no sort of medical issue going on, it’s literally just a refusal or inability to keep up with normal hygienic standards or even basic hygienic standards.