One of the most baffling things about Cirqa so far is that it doesn't show live heart rate for workouts unless you have a Garmin Connect+ subscription.

I can't tell if this is just a mistake on Garmin's part, or has the enshittification of garmin devices begun? I have to say that it seems quite intentional. Disappointing as hell.

I'm worries that this is going to be their approach towards Connect+ going forward - not to give new "advanced" features, but to take away features that were already free in previous watches. Imagine buying a Fenix and seeing "Buy the Connect+ subscription to see your live heart rate" on the watch screen.

I initially thought this will replace my current Epix 2 but it seems more likely I will use them both for activities, and the band for general stats tracking.

Anyone else exited to be able to be able to wear their normal watches again ?

Garmin also mentioned that they reconsidered and add the HR display during an activity without a subscription required.

Hello all, I have problems understanding how several devices sync their data to Garmin Connect.

I wear a Garmin Forerunner 945 throughout the day, that's where the data in the screenshot comes from. But I ride my bike on my commute to work, where I use my Garmin Edge and a HRM chest strap. I don't see the point in wearing my watch during the ride, because the data, including heat rate, gets recorded on the Edge. So for the bike rides, I take off my watch.

The thing is: during this time, there is no data available for body battery and other related stats (highlighted through the dotted graph, which basically means the data is incomplete). I don't understand why, because there is in fact data recorded during this time, just on a different device. If I look at my HR chart of the whole day, there those blanks are filled.

I don't see the point in wearing my watch while at the same time recording the bike rides on the Edge, only to have complete data.

Can someone help here? Is it really necessary to wear the watch all the time, even if I use other Garmin devices?

I'm eyeballing the Garmin Cirqa, but I was also thinking of taking it off during bike rides or swims, using it more as a passive tracker, but using my "real" sports related devices for recording activities. It would be a bummer buying a Cirqa but still having incomplete data.

We’re excited to announce that we are now part of Garmin which you can read all about here.

Our objective is to expand access to more authentic coaching experiences - connecting athletes with human coaches who guide, motivate and inspire them to reach their goals.

As a valued customer we wanted to proactively assure you that TrainingPeaks will continue to operate as a cross-platform ecosystem, enabling athletes and coaches to use the devices, platforms and services that best suit their needs.

We are incredibly excited for the capabilities this expanded ecosystem will enable for you to continue to grow and develop as an athlete.

Thank you for your continued support.

All the best,
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Just pre-ordered mine (black, xl). If you’re an REI member, you also get $20 back in rewards. I had so many rewards in my account, scored the Cirqa for $106! Hopefully it gets fulfilled at launch.

I bought a Garmin Fenix 8 a few days ago, and the experience has been extremely disappointing so far.

I updated it to software version 22.38 immediately after the initial setup. Since then, the watch has been very laggy, buggy, and unstable. It has rebooted by itself several times, and the problem now seems to be getting worse.

When I scroll through glances, the interface sometimes crashes and sends me straight back to the watch face. The same thing happens when scrolling through the apps menu. General navigation also feels slow and unresponsive.

I previously owned a Forerunner 265, and it was noticeably smoother and more reliable than this Fenix 8, which is difficult to accept considering the price difference.

I spent around two hours with Garmin chat support and tried several different troubleshooting steps, but nothing helped. I also uninstalled all of my Connect IQ apps to rule out third-party software, but the crashes and lag are still happening.

Is anyone else experiencing this on version 22.38? Is Garmin aware of it, and has there been any indication that a fix is coming soon?

At this point, I am seriously considering returning the watch. This level of instability is not acceptable for a device that costs around €1,000.

I got a Garmin forerunner 970 (Apple Watch series 9 before) and the treadmill run pace seems pretty off.

On treadmill I set a 8m 20sec km pace.
During the run the watch was reporting extremely inaccurate pace. Range 7m to 7m 40s. The best I saw it was ~7m 50s

Note I was running the entire time.

The distance was also off by nearly +.5km.

After calibration stats
3.13km 24m 55s for average pace 7m 47s

But according to math it’s 7m 58s

(24x60)+55 =1,495
1,495/3.13=477.636
477.36/60=7.956
60*.956=57.36
7min 58s

Why is it so inaccurate? My Apple Watch was pretty much on par with treadmill. I only wore my Garmin, so I’ll repeat the run with both watches next time

Hello all,

A few weeks ago I posted here asking about the stress and body battery scores, worried that they were not accurate as consistently showing high stress. I wanted to give an update in case this is helpful for anybody.

I have hiatus hernia and dust/hayfever allergies and after seeing a few positive posts reviewing wedge pillows I decided to try one. Within a week, my sleep scores, body battery and stress scores have improved A LOT! I guess I was so used to waking up during the night to blow my nose that I didn’t even clock it. I had allergies all my life so I didn’t know any better and thought that because I fall asleep easily and have a consistent sleep routine that I was having good quality sleep. I was so wrong…I’ve never slept so good and I wake up feeling truly refreshed. It also helps with lower back pain and the acidity from HH, which is a big plus.

Thank you to everyone who commented on my previous post!

Hey guys, love my fenix8 and been wearing it daily ever since I got it. My only problem is: I hate how bulky it is while sleeping and end up putting it on my nightstand, not tracking any vital data during the night.
I’ve had a whoop in the past which didn’t bother me with its slim form factor. Now with cirqa I’m considering getting it, to get sleep data and using the fenix8 during the day and my workouts.

Anyone know if data would sync up nicely and whether that would be a supported use case?

I need help, I need to buy a watch soon, I am quite active, I like to train, I deal with the conditioning of athletes. Favorite activities swimming, running, cycling, strength training.. I have never had such a good watch for training, can you recommend a universal Garmin watch? My budget is around €600. I can raise it to €800.. Thanks in advance!

So I currently have a Fitbit air, I actually do genuinely like it, it’s really light and I love no screen, however now I’m getting more into running I want a watch that I can see how far I’m running and also use to improve my running.

I’m really overwhelmed at the amount of choice on Garmin, I don’t want to spend a fortune, but I do want it to work for me and running. Any help?? (I’ve seen the new screen less one about to be released but don’t see the point of upgrading to that as same issue as the Fitbit!)

I’m looking forward to train daily and go for running and strength training daily , I want the watch to look premium , no one shouldn’t look at the watch like a first copy watch or noise or bolt smartwatches , want a premium look with accurate metrics , I’m coming from Apple Watch SE

I just started running again, i used to do track in highschool but that was 5 years ago. I live in Las Vegas,, so I know the heat can affect my heart rate. I’m just a little confused because I’m trying to run in Zone 2 and keep my heart rate in the 140–150 bpm range, but even when I run 2 miles at a 13–14 minute pace, my heart rate still reaches 170–182 bpm. Do I need to slow down even more? At that point, I feel like I’m basically walking. Do I need to be running at a 15-17 min pace, is that even a thing. Bc my garmin watch says all my runs are high intensity runs in zone 4 or 5.

I have tried garmin support and gotten no where in the almost 8 months I have had this watch. It wont stay connected to my phone. Is there something I can try or am I just stuck looking for a new one next time I have the money?

And, if I do just need to give in and get a new one, any recommendations on which one to get instead? I love this one when it stays connected, I really do. It has everything I want without all kinds of extra stuff I don't need. I just want to be able to see my notifications for more than 20 minutes after I connect it to my phone

Garmin says the CIRQA will be available to order from July 24 in Europe. Does that normally mean it will go live at 00:00 CEST, or does Garmin usually open orders later in the day based on US time? Has anyone experienced a similar Garmin launch before?

Hi everyone,

I’m thinking about buying my first Garmin watch. I previously used Amazfit watches, but I’m now considering switching to Garmin.

Most of my sports activities are running, jogging, weightlifting, and resistance training. I also care about everyday use, walking, sleep tracking, and general health metrics.

My main dilemma is between the Forerunner 970 and the Fenix 8 Solar, especially since their prices are relatively close. However, part of me thinks that the Venu 4 may already be more than enough for my needs.

I understand the main differences between the Venu 4 and the Forerunner 970, especially when it comes to advanced training metrics, navigation, maps, and running features. However, I’m not sure whether I would actually use all those additional features enough to justify the higher price.

By choosing the Venu 4, I could use the money saved to buy a Garmin chest strap or other useful accessories instead.

My biggest priority is longevity. I want a watch that I can keep for many years, both in terms of hardware durability and software support. I previously considered the Epix Pro Gen 2, but since it is already an older model, I’m concerned about buying it now if I plan to keep the watch for a long time.

Would the Venu 4 be sufficient for running, jogging, weightlifting, resistance training, sleep tracking, and everyday use?

Or would it be smarter to spend more on the Forerunner 970 or Fenix 8 Solar for better long-term value?

I don’t want to choose the cheaper watch and regret it later, thinking that I could have bought a more capable model that would remain useful for many years.

I’d especially appreciate opinions from people who do both running and strength training, or who have experience with more than one of these Garmin watch lines.

So I found a 30km route in a unfamiliar city that I wanted to run on Strava and saved it which created a copy to Garmin. The route is a loop so realistically it doesn't really matter where you start from.

However, for the purposes of navigation and because I am unfamiliar with the city, when I start my run with that route at a location different to the designated start point, would it be telling me that I am off-track or would the navigation just start and continue from where I am currently all the way to my own start/End point? Or would the navigation stop at the designated point in the saved route?

This is my first time using these features and thought to make the most of it.

I was running today and my watch restarted multiple times during my run, showing a blue triangle each time. It happened around 12 times during a 4-mile run, which was extremely frustrating.

I bought the watch only about 4 months ago, so I’m surprised to already be experiencing issues.

There is no software update available, and the battery was at 70%, so I don’t think it’s related to the battery level.

Can someone help me troubleshoot and fix this issue? Thank you!

A friend gave me this hrm tri band and it didn’t connect at first so I replaced the battery and while replacing it i noticed the black part where it goes can come out like nothing from the band so idk if there’s any way to repair it or getting it working

I recently started digging into the Sleep Alignment that my Fenix 8 can calculate. I’ve read the Help article on sleep alignment but t hasn’t quite answered my question:

Optimal bedtime and Optimal wake time - are these values that anyone has seen change over time? Right now my optimal wake time is 6:30 AM, but I have to leave for work by 6:40 AM. I know this isn’t anything super important, but if my circadian rhythm is estimated to be between the bedtime and wake time, I figure there is probably a way to shift this back a bit. Anyone notice this changing over time with their profile?