I am not the OOP. The OOP is u/feellikeanidiot0 posting in r/AmIOverreacting

Status: Ongoing

Mood Spoiler: Wild

Original - July 21st 2026

Hi, I need to know if I'm right to be losing it rn. My fiancée and I are due to get married in less than 2 months. We met each other at a mutual's wedding. The wedding was gender segregated so she and her mom had met my mom, who then introduced us later. We then went out for like a couple of months, like I'd pick her up from her place (she lives with her parents) and we'd have dinner and a movie, or go painting, or go to the lake etc. We're both Muslim immigrant families so it was understood that we had to stay within some boundaries but we genuinely really liked each other. She was the one who at one point said we could bring our kids here one day and told me she was going to tell her parents she wanted to marry me and she wanted to say yes to my proposal. We got engaged at a low key family event in February.

It's relevant to mention here that during that time I had respectfully asked her about her past relationships. I had said that I know it's personal and there's absolutely no judgement from me, but as someone who, despite not being a great Muslim in a lot of respects, did abstain and save myself for marriage, I would like a partner who had done the same. That it was a compatibility thing, not a judgemental thing. She didn't seemed to mind and said no, she hadn't been with anyone. I believed her.

Since then the wedding prep has been in full swing and the two of us have gotten the chance to get closer. She's the one who's made more of the effort in our communication, because unfortunately I wfh with an employer in the morning and have my cybersecurity business too, so time can be scarce sometimes. Our only argument has been her complaint that I don't make enough time for us.

Some guy claiming to be her (A in the texts) bf (S in the texts) texted me last night, and even sent me pictures where they're together. He claimed that they were in a relationship for the last 2 years, that they'd been having sex, that they were in love, and I've been losing my mind. I never put any pressure on her. Yes, I really liked her but I let her make decisions at her own pace. If she wanted to be with some other guy, all she had to do was say so. In fact not even, it was none of my business, she didn't even owe me any reasons but just give me a straight no. I haven't picked up her call this morning, I've genuinely been feeling sick at the duplicity.

Transcript of the images OP shared (redacted names have been replaced by their corresponding visible first letters for this post):

12:05 a.m.
Guy: Is this A's fiance?

12:14 a.m.
OP: Who are you?

12:15 a.m.
Guy: Are u A's fiance?

12:18 a.m.
Guy: ??

12:19 a.m.
Guy: im her bf so u cant marry her

12:20 a.m.
Guy: plz tell her and her family your not interested

12:20 a.m.
Guy: A has been my gf for 2 years

12:21 a.m.
Guy: she only wants to be with me we have been in love for past 2 yrs

12:23 a.m.
Guy: weve been dating for past 2 yrs in secret weve have been having sex at my place for past 2 yrs

12:24 a.m.
Guy: she didnt tell u? shell deny if u ask her

12:24 a.m.
Guy: (Sends photos of a seemingly close couple - redacted by OP in the post)

12:27 a.m.
OP: Who are you? What's your name?

12:27 a.m.
Guy: tell her and her family your not interested plz and end it

12:27 a.m.
Guy: S

12:28 a.m.
Guy: ask her face to face about S ull know

12:31 a.m.
Guy: ??

12:31 a.m.
Guy: look u seem like a good guy ull find someone better

12:33 a.m.
Guy: me and A love each otherr

12:34 a.m.
Guy: shes only marrying you bcz her family wants that

12:36 a.m.
Guy: ??

12:39 a.m.
OP: How did you get my number?

12:41 a.m.
Guy: A gave it

12:44 a.m.
Guy: even if u marry her well still see each 9ther i dont want to hurt u like that u seem like a good guy

12:45 a.m.
Guy: the sooner u end it the less drama there will bd

12:58 a.m.
Guy: ??

1:11 a.m.
Guy: look bro i get this is tough but ask her face to face ull know from her face

1:29 a.m.
Guy: ??

2:06 a.m.
Guy: look i have more photos but u understand i dont want to share because as someone who loves her i dont want to have another guy see those private intimate pictures of us

Relevant Comments:

Comment 1:

Sometimes when you download the image to your phone, it’ll show you the location/date and time it was taken.

OP:

The original EXIF data has been stripped. No time stamps on when it was taken, or any GPS coordinates, camera information or anything useful. That was the first thing I did.

Comment 2:

My first instinct is this is not even a guy, this is someone trying to ruin your fiancee, possibly a family member or rival.

Comment 3:

This guy comes across as a stalker. Sounds like he wants her, but she doesn’t want him. So he’s trying to destroy her relationship with you to have a chance.

Show her these messages. Ask her point blank who it is to her. Chances are he’s someone she’s blown off in the past and he’s got a creepy delusion.

OP:

Thanks, I've lost sleep over this and I blew off our morning call, that was stupid I know, but I wanted to get my head straight first.

Comment 4:

Do not accuse her. Just tell her some weirdo texted you, and show her, then ask if she has any idea who it is.

The most important part at this time is to not destroy the relationship with your fiancée. If she is cheating, you will find it out sooner or later, but you might not come back from accusing her of cheating. And then this weirdo has won.

OP:

Thanks, I'm going to be straight up with her and ask tonight in person. I tried to think this through and make my peace with it like if she cheated or lied then our relationship was a sham anyway, she wouldn't have been the girl that I was looking forward to marrying anyway.

Comment 5:

Please do it in a way that shows that you and her are on the same side, trying to figure out who is trying to drive a wedge between you.

And if you are willing to break up with your fiancée because she had sex before she met you, she will be better off. If your issue is her lying to you, that's valid but I am very familiar with the culture and can see how a woman might not feel safe sharing that with anyone.

But I really think this is someone trying to cause problems, and making up whatever life they think will work on you.

YOR.

OP:

She would not have been unsafe with telling me that, it would absolutely not have left the two of us. If she thinks I would have, then why is she marrying someone who's apparently a sick individual. There wouldn't have been an iota of judgement from me, I really liked her but I would have just taken it as a "not meant to be" thing. I wouldn't have judged her at all, I'm a pathetic Muslim myself, having been in relationships that just stopped short of sex, it was more about dating with hopefully marriage at the end. I would have laid bare all of it for her to gauge any compatibility busters on her end. If I'm being honest, if she'd told me herself yesterday that there was some ex she'd had sex with, I would have just been like whatever, like I love her now and I wouldn't have cared. But to just be ok with what would have been an everlasting lie, anyway I'm letting my brain run wild, maybe he's full of shit.

I'm going to be collected and approach this in a non-accusatory manner. Thanks.

Just want to add: I'm sorry if my comment seemed pointed. I'm not going in to the conversation with her tonight on the opposing side, I am on her side. I just was responding to the implication that there would have been some consequences to her life from me, as if I would have let that information out if she didn't want it to. Sorry.

Comment 6:

Why are you so eager to believe an anonymous stranger before talking to her? 

I think your reactions are weird.  I’d be furious but you are losing sleep thinking this is true?

OP:

The photos seem real, the number checks out, and I'm working not knowing if I'm getting married in less than two months. What reaction should I be having until 7 when I pick her up?

Comment 7:

could the photos be AI generated?

OP:

I put two of the pictures through an AI detector. Both of them were classified as real. For one it said there was a 36% chance of ai, for the other it said 2%.

I'm going to see her tonight and talk to her.

Comment 8:

AI detectors are not reliable whatsoever

OP:

I know that. I know it could be AI and the detector could say 0%. It could be a picture I take myself and it might say 100%. I'll get my answers tonight, like thats the only way. The guy kept saying look at her facial reactions I don't even know wtf that means but apparently it's going to be a tell. I don't believe him but I'll find out in person. Thanks a lot.

Mini-Update by OP on the same post:

Just want to add: I know she's the one I should talk to but I just didn't want to do it on the phone, I'm going to go pick her up right now. I'm not going to be accusatory, I just want the truth of it all. I love her but like if there's someone else and she's feeling pressured into this marriage, like I'm prepared to give her any reason she needs to end it that works for her in front of her family. I'll be on her side like I was suggested here.

Update: - July 21st 2026 (13 hours after the original post)

A lot of people asked for an update, so I thought I'd give one. I can't talk about it with anyone else because somehow I'm the one who ended up responsible for keeping her secret, my own crisis about this be damned, like its taking me so much to not just contact and ask him straight up about what happened.

I asked her if she knew who S was. He was right, I could immediately tell the guy wasn't lying, she definitely knew. She said he was a guy she used to know, and I told her he had contacted me, and showed her the texts. She said he was lying, that she ended things with him before we met and that they'd never had sex. I asked if there was any overlap between our relationships and she said only when she went to meet him one last time to tell him it was over, because he wasn't taking no for an answer. I asked if the photos were real, they were. I asked her to be honest with me, did she really have sex with him like he was saying. She was crying and swearing they didn't, they were intimate and she regrets everything with him but they didn't.

She gave me her phone and basically forced me to confirm that there were no text messages between him and her recently while we've been together. His number was in her blocked list. She asked me to block his number and so I asked if he was being honest about having way more intimate pictures. She said there were a lot more compromising pictures of her that she thinks he has but swore that they hadn’t had sex. She was crying and I blocked him in the moment what else could I do looking at her. She was pleading with me not to reach out to him, and she was freaking out that he'd post them somewhere public before our wedding. At that point I was trying to keep her from freaking out, I told her that would be illegal, he wouldn't do that and so in the moment I just stupidly promised to not contact him.

I told her if there's any kind of pressure like there's any number of excuses she could use regarding me to end this that would save face for everyone, and be with whomever like I'll get over it at some point eventually, yeah it'll be sad for a while and we'll have lost some money especially if the venue doesn't get rebooked at short notice I think, but just have some mercy on both of us and end this now. She swore there was no pressure and that she'd been counting the days until the wedding, that she hadn't even thought of his name until I brought it up. She was like he's doing this to prevent our wedding and fine I get that but like why does he sound more honest with me than she does? I really wouldn't have cared if I'd learned all this yesterday from her, yeah it would've meant she lied initially but like now we loved each other beyond that stuff, this was just her being ok with keeping me in a forever lie that was wrong. I started feeling sick so I just said I wasn't feeling well and we cut it short.

During the drive back to hers, she was almost talking like a coach like let's please forget about this, we're so happy together, we've discussed so many plans, don't let him screw up our relationship. Like I have my own mental breakdown over all this what about that! She kept asking me whether I was fine, I said I was, I mean I don't even know if that's a lie, I wasn't thinking at all.

I've been going over the texts, and I don't know how I can go into the wedding not knowing the answer. Like its so easily doable I just need to ask him to meet up and have one conversation if he would. Honestly it's more about if she's still lying about this, it's not about the sex, it's just about the trust. I know he's also lied, because she clearly hasn't been meeting with him of late, and she really hadn't given me any reason to think of her as a liar thus far but I could just confirm it so easily. It's sincerely about the respect of having been honest, not about the boundary itself, I love her I wouldn't have cared if she'd told me herself yesterday. But it feels sick to contact him like that, like that's not how it should be, and I don't want to have to talk to someone who'd speak the way he was.

I think I'll decide stuff by myself tomorrow morning about the future of our relationship, my mind is not going to work today. I probably won't give further updates. I don't know how much more help I can ask for here, due to some immigrant cultural context that might be missing (as much as I've skated past it myself to a fair extent). I don't want to be stupid but I don't want to be walked over either. Thanks.

Relevant Comments:

Comment 1:

I think it’s very fair that she is freaking out. As a woman if any kind of pictures come out IT’S BAD and especially if she does have a nightmare ex like this guy she’s probably very scared and worried

OP:

I totally understand that. It's sick what he did, like the way he approached me.

Comment 2:

if you think that then what is the point of reaching out to him at all? this dude got into your head, to the point where you think it's stupid that you promised your fiance you wouldn't reach out to him. it's pretty clear from the way you wrote this post, and from the other one, that this is not a good or honest guy. in your fiance's own words "he wouldn't take no for an answer."

I wouldn't entertain this dude anymore strictly on the basis that you can't trust anything he says.

OP:

To know if they had sex when they were together. The way she said she thinks he has compromising pictures, and the way he was claiming they did, almost seems like there's literally a sliver of daylight between what they're saying.

Also, just to clarify because I got some dms, when I asked her this back when it was still early days, its not like I was fixated on whether she had sex before or not. It truly was a compatibility thing only. Like we'd asked about alcohol too, she said she'd had alcohol after long days or especially she said after bad exams in the past with friends but she didn't anymore, and wouldn't be ok with her husband drinking alcohol. I've never drank alcohol. I was open about the fact that I've smoked weed, tried shrooms and lsd in uni but don't anymore and she thought that was funny as long as I didn't regularly anymore and we moved on. Premarital sex was just one of those things on my end, purely because it was a line I had chosen to not cross, so it'd probably be best if my wife hadn't either purely for compatibility reasons. I only asked about sex, because I'm not a hypocrite, if I've had relationships which just didn't involve sex (they were relationships with an aim to hopefully end at marriage) I obviously wouldn't hold that as a boundary. But this just was one for me.

But even despite all that like at this point I was so happy until yesterday that if she'd even point blank told me herself that she had to confess about having lied before I would've taken it in stride, like whatever. It's just the potential lie and not knowing whether I'm being lied to, and the way he was fucking gloating, especially when there's a guy who's disgusting but apparently has the answer.

Sorry this got long, truly.

Comment 3:

What kind of answer could you actually get from him though?

He's already told you they had sex, she told you they didn't. He's already definitely lied to you about them continuing to meet, being "in love", and planning to meet even after your wedding. His intention is clearly to sabotage your relationship, so he's an unreliable source. I'm not sure what further clarity you would hope to get from him. If you contact him, he'll say they had sex. You still won't know if it's true.

She's begged you not to contact him because he's obviously not safe. Whatever pictures he has would be shared without your fiancées consent. I think you can understand that it's not ethically right to contact a woman's unsafe ex for intimate pictures she does not consent to being shared, that ethical boundary doesn't change just because it's your fiancée.

You've said yourself that you were physically intimate with exes without having sex. From what I can tell she likely had a similar experience with this guy and it was traumatic and she regrets it deeply. Whether she lied depends on whether you asked about only sex specifically, or whether you asked about previous dating relationships or other kinds of physical intimacy. You've seen her phone, you know she's been faithful during your relationship.

I'm very sorry you've been put in this situation. It's understandable to freak out, but it would be an ethical violation, a personal betrayal, and pretty useless for getting the actual truth, to contact your fiancée's abuser whether you decide to proceed with the marriage or not.

It's fair to take some time and reflect on what you need to do, but please make up your own mind about this without involving him further.

Truly wishing you strength and steadiness in a situation that is painful for both of you.

Comment 4:

Also because OP’s position enrages me:

I think I'll decide stuff by myself tomorrow morning about the future of our relationship, my mind is not going to work today. I probably won't give further updates. I don't know how much more help I can ask for here, due to some immigrant cultural context that might be missing (as much as I've skated past it myself to a fair extent). I don't want to be stupid but I don't want to be walked over either. Thanks.

Incel 101. “I‘ll decide”…”I don’t want to be walked over.” None of anything your fiancée has done is walking over you. Don’t be a fucking worm. Here’s a fucking thought. How about you two talk to each other about whether you love each other and want to get married? Jesus fuck.

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I am not the OOP. The OOP is u/LegoBirthdayGift posting in r/AmItheAsshole

Concluded as per OOP

 

1 update - Medium

 

Original - 19th July 2026

Update - 22nd July 2026

 

Original post - AITA for" showing up" my brothers girlfriend by getting him a birthday gift he liked more and not warning her I was getting a big gift?

 

I (25F) have a twin brother (25M). Growing up our favourite pastime was building Lego together. Our family couldn't afford it often so the sets we had were treasured and we'd always buy bags of loose bricks from Charity Shops whenever we saw them. It was a major bonding time for us making things together and my brother claims that those days of playing with Lego is what inspired him to go on and become an Architect.

It was our birthday on Friday and we had a small thing with family, my boyfriend of three years (27M) was there and so was my brothers girlfriend of two years (24F), during the gift exchange we left each others presents to last as we always have and opened our respective gifts. They were very nice and enjoyable, nothing to complain about on either side. When we exchanged gifts however it led to some laughs and delight on both sides. I got him the Neuschwanstein Castle Lego set and he got me the Notre Dame Lego set. He clearly loved his gift and was going on about how excited he was to build it and how he'd be spending his next day off working on it. He showed a lot more enthusiasm for this than the watch his girlfriend got him though he had clearly liked that too.

Since then his girlfriend has reached out to me insisting I tried to show her up deliberately by getting him a gift he'd like more and how she was trying to treat him like an adult with her gift while I was encouraging him to be childish. She also thinks we somehow planned this gift exchange as we both got Lego for each other. I had to tell her no it is just something we have always enjoyed together and it's just natural we'd do this. I also told her than I had no intention of showing her up but that if she really wanted to win the day with gifts she should have considered his interests and not worried about what seems appropriate for an adult. She then pivoted to the fact that she is his girlfriend and I should have warned her I was getting an expensive gift. I pointed out my brother didn't warn my boyfriend but she insists that doesn't matter. That I should have.

Was I in the wrong for not giving her warning and leading to her feeling "shown up" as a result? I have never felt the need to give warning when my brother dated but maybe I should have?

 

Comments

 

hidden_foxhollow53

​Oh, please don't let her ruin what sounds like a beautiful birthday tradition. The fact that you and your twin managed to independently buy each other massive Lego sets is honestly magical and hilarious. It shows how deeply connected you two still are, which is exactly how it should be.

 

sensuspete

Jealous girlfriends come and go but you’ll always b his sister. NTA.

Also Lego is for ALL ages. I’m in my 60’s and LOVE it.

 

PositiveResort6430

Not the a******. Lets count the red flags!

Gf wants be the centre of attention even on BFS bday, her gift MUST be the BEST, it cant be enough that he enjoyed it?

Now gf is starting drama with bfs sister over some birthday gifts......

Coming up with conspiracies like how you guys "planned" the Lego gifts, as if that would make any sense... if 2 siblings wanted to buy lego together, they could just do that on any d*** day of the year, they don't need to wait till a birthday.

Calling a gift bf loved "childish" and saying her gift was meant to be more adult. Thats belittling and insulting to both of you

Its giving narcissism and schizophrenia like my insanely mentally ill mother! That might seem dramatic, but let me tell you. It starts off with little things like this. And then it escalates. People like that, they create huge dramas out of nothing. Especially if it's something that hurt their own ego.

As a sibling, I'd make sure I'm there for my brother a lot, and that he doesn't get isolated by this woman.

 

Consensus: not an asshole

 

Update - three days later

An update to my last post which you can find here, https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1v0p9i1/aita_for_showing_up_my_brothers_girlfriend_by/

I'd like to start by saying thank you to everyone for your comments and like many of you recommended I ended up showing the messages she sent me to my twin brother. I went round to his today, it's his day off and he wanted my help making a start on the set I got him. I'd have brought the set he got me so we could make them together but since it lives at my place it's not smart to try and move it back and forth. He's going to come to mine on Saturday to help me make a start on it.

While we were working on it together I admitted to him that his girlfriend had messaged me and that I was concerned as she doesn't seem to like his hobby with Lego, seeing it as childish and seems to find me as some kind of threat which is weird and gross because seriously, that's my twin? I also expressed worry that she may try to sabotage the things he likes just to make him "grow up". He asked to see my phone and I passed it over, he read the messages in silence and was quiet for about a minute before saying and I quote "oh fuck no" and he then pulled out his phone and began to message her. When I asked what he was doing he said he was sorting it, and when I tried to ask tell me what he meant by that he just made noises to cut me off like he used to when we were kids and he felt like annoying me.

I managed to see the messages and he straight up just told her that he saw the messages she sent me and he wanted his key back, and she had till 8pm to drop it off and she was to put it through the letterbox and not bother trying to talk to him. If she didn't he'd be having his locks changed. HE THEN BLOCKED HER NUMBER!. When I asked him if he was being a bit hasty and maybe he should talk to her instead he told me he could forgive a lot of things and they could have even worked through her not liking his hobby but no one talks to me like that or makes gross implications like that to me.

He then refused to talk further about her insisting we keep building the set. I left about 2 hours ago and i'm just sitting laughing about this and a bit amused by this whole mess. My boyfriend can't stop laughing over this and told me he was glad he never got on my brothers wrong side

EDIT: Some updates that happened as I had to wait to have my post approved. My brother let me know she did turn up to return his keys but she didn't put them through the letterbox like he asked, at least not at first. She apparently stood knocking and shouting at the door for an hour before finally putting it through the letterbox calling him all kinds of names through it as she did so, he was apparently just building his lego as she did this and kept turning his music up so it was clear he was home but he was ignoring her.

On his way to work he also dropped her keys in through her letterbox so he wouldn't have to interact with her. I've asked him if this is being petty and maybe he should have talked to her he told me that yes, he's being petty, and if she wants to make him "grow up" then he will be childish with her. I've also blocked his now ex-girlfriend as she began to message me blaming me for this mess and asking me what I did. So yeah, that is what happened! thought you'd all like this additional information.

 

Comments

 

ForeignCup6977

GOOD FOR YOUR BROTHER!

His girlfriend felt threatened BY HIS SISTER! That is a huge red flag and shows how intensely insecure she is. I've been in a relationship with a woman like this, even married her. I was ever so slowly turned away from my own friends and family over her insecurity to the point I found myself in a completely different job, career field, living overseas when I began to realize how toxic she truly was.

You're brother dodged a bullet here and his life and your relationship with him will be better for it.

 

CakePhool

I think that was what broke the camels back. I think she been doing stuff and saying things about his hobby that he could work out and talk through, she just step over a boundary by messing with you.

 

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This is a repost sub. I’m not the Original OP (OOP)

OOP: u/One-Dragonfly-5474

Published on: r/relationship_advice & r/Advice

Previous BORU: BORU-1 by u/SharkEva on January 11, 2026

Story is: CONCLUDED

Story timeline

• Main Post: December 19, 2025

• Update: January 10, 2026

• Final Update: June 03, 2026 --> NEW UPDATE

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Main Post

^{December 19, 2025}

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My 43f husbands 46m affair partner 19f is pregnant doesn’t know the baby’s father and I don’t know where to begin with fixing this

Throwaway account. All names are fake to protect mine and my children’s identities.

A few days ago my husband of 19 years came to me telling me he wanted us to sit down and talk as he needed to come clean that he has been having an affair for the past 6 months. He arranged with his mother to have the kids for the night and she would get them to school in the morning so we could talk in private.

He had arranged this with her in the day whilst I was at work, when I arrived home around 6:45pm he was sat in the living room alone waiting and looking very nervous and quite frankly ill I was immediately concerned for him and asking where the children were.

He couldn’t meet my gaze reached out for my hands sat down again and quietly announced he was so sorry and he never meant for this to happen but he had cheated on me. I had no idea how to react I was still concerned why no one else was home as they all should have been home hours ago normally getting back around 4pm and none had messaged me to ask or say they were out with friends.

He started to ramble on I think trying to explain himself as if there is any explanation for cheating I wasn’t paying attention demanding he tell me where our children were eventually he told me that his mother was looking after them for the night. He asked me to calm down and let him explain himself, I admit I snapped when he said this how can he expect me to calm down when he’s just admitted to breaking our vows what is there to explain if he wanted a divorce he should have just asked for one months ago.

He started to get upset begging me to please calm down and let him talk he didn’t choose this but there’s more to the story. I was so full of emotions I walked outside and sat in my car he followed me to the door crying and begging me to listen and please don’t go.

I sat in my car for I don’t know how long sobbing thinking of our marriage our children what will happen now does this mean divorce couples counselling can I forgive him and the biggest question why? Why did he cheat. Who is she. Why is she better than me. Why is this woman more important than the life we have built together over the last 22 years.

After maybe an hour of spiralling and crying I was ready to hear him out and ask my questions. I knocked on the door he opened it reached for my hand and we sat down again he tried to lead me to upstairs to our bedroom I said absolutely not we’re talking this through downstairs now or he can leave for tonight.

I didn’t know what to expect from what he wanted to tell me I didn’t care for the apologies and excuses. He told me the affair had started 6 months ago but it had just been secret messaging nothing flirtatious from his side to begin with then things escalated she became more boldly flirtatious and during a night I was working away they slept together the first time that was supposedly 4 months ago he hasn’t admitted so but I believe they’ve been intimate regularly since.

I asked why who how so many questions I didn’t give him time to answer as I began to spiral again. He said it was Emily a name that didn’t mean anything to me I half laughed and said am I supposed to know who that is then he said James’ Emily. James is our 18m son Emily 19f is his ex girlfriend as of 2 months ago.

I was so angry in that moment I shouted for him to get out I didn’t want him anywhere near me I couldn’t stand to look at him or listen to what he had to say next how would he try and excuse not only having an affair but with our sons ex who he was still broken up about.

She had broken up with him 2 months prior which had him very upset as they’d had a sensible and very positive relationship for over a year, she was fully welcomed into our home and I was quite fond of her. The whole family had been sad to hear they had broken up his younger siblings saying how they missed her coming round.

I apologise I’m getting away from things this is still so much to think about and hard to actually put down. My husband told me the reason he was coming clean to me now was that Emily had confided in him 2 weeks ago that she was pregnant but was unsure as to who the father is she said it could be him or James.

He told me he hadn’t planned or wanted any of this he didn’t initiate the relationship he tried to not get close with her but he wasn’t strong enough mentally and it just happened. Upon hearing that I got up and left I just couldn’t stay there listening to him any longer I drove 30 minutes away and checked into a hotel for the night turning my phone off.

I went into work the next day as normal returning home to the kids out once again and him waiting by the door eyes red begging me to talk to him. I didn’t have the energy to talk or argue I just walked up to our room laid in our bed as he begged me crying again.

I’m not delusional enough to believe anything he says regarding how it was all her initiating the flirting she’s only 19 and he’s more than twice her age for gods sake! He didn’t act in this alone but to try and place all the blame on a teenager is quite frankly pathetic and makes me sick.

It has been a few days since and nothing has resolved things are back to normal for the sake of our children James doesn’t know about the affair or possible pregnancy. They’re all back home and I’m trying to make things appear as normal as possible just until Christmas is out of the way I don’t want this affair mess to ruin what should be a joyful time of year.

I’ve hardly spoken to my husband since except for when the children are around having to share a bed with him disgusts me he’s tried to cuddle me and get me to kiss him in front of the children I feel so much animosity to him. I fear my depression that I struggled with as a teenager will come back I just want to cry everywhere my heart is broken not just for myself but for our family. I know James needs to know and sooner is better but I don’t know that I can be there for us both right now.

How do I even try to figure this out? When is the right time to tell James? I know it’s so silly to think we could keep this a secret until Christmas is over but I don’t have any idea where to start it just feels like the worst time for all of this I don’t know how I feel regarding everything I know I’m nowhere near finding a solution or thinking of next steps I’m mostly concerned for James and the fallout this will have between him and his father and our other 2 children.

 

COMMENTS

CannibalRimmer

I mean you know how to fix this - you'd have to leave him. If you're unwilling to leave him, if your standards don't exclude this then don't waste your time pretending you're prepared to fix anything - when your standards are low enough to include having a relationship with this kind of predatory man, you are as much a part of the problem as he is.

If you stay with him, he's right and you're wrong. His assessment is that he can fuck children (and a 19-year-old is a child - they might legally be an adult, but materially they're a child) and that you might huff and puff but you'll ultimately do nothing about it, and until the moment you leave that makes him correct about your complicity in his filth.

OOP

Okay wow I don’t know if the way I have written makes it sound like I’m thinking of staying with him I am not thinking that at all I know we will have to divorce I’m just lost as to how to go about things in the right order. I’m not condoning his actions in anyway I’m quite honestly repulsed by him

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Obvious-Block6979

Honestly I think ripping the bandage off now makes more sense. If this comes out by other means, your son may feel betrayed 3x over. Especially if he thinks you’re covering for your husband. Or if he believes you would have stayed, if he hadn’t found out. I would at least have him leave the house, even if you don’t disclose all the details yet.

OOP

Thank you that’s a good idea having to be in the same room as him these past couple days has been so hard on me. I may tell him to go stay elsewhere at night and we can share some details with my eldest. I would hate for him to feel I’ve betrayed him I won’t let my husbands actions cause my son and I more pain

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Spirited-Water1368 (downvoted)

Sending my sympathies to you, James and the two other children. Also sending you an Oscar award for your acting skills. You are doing your best in this unreal situation. If you can do it, wait until after Christmas to tell James.

Is she going to give birth to this baby?

OOP

Thank you. I have no idea if she’s planning on having the baby or not I think she’s wanting to know who the father is and then expect help support from them

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AccomplishedPoem9841

“I know it’s so silly to think we could keep this a secret until Christmas”

Yeah especially with the wildcard of Emily and how she might take it upon herself to deal with the life she’s carrying. I know you probably didn’t want to hear it but from a practical standpoint - any idea what her plan is? I assume it impacted his confession.

OOP

Oh God it hadn’t even crossed my mind that she may tell James or show up. I haven’t asked how far along she is or know what her plan is I don’t know that she has one. I don’t think my husband has a plan for all this either I feel like I’m trying to figure it all out for everyone!

somefreeadvice10

Damn, I didn't even think about the fact Emily may tell James before his mom tells him about his dad's disgusting actions.

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AccomplishedPoem9841

I'm officially calling bull on this story. How can OP know that son doesn't know about the pregnancy? OP's husband was told about it 2 weeks ago. OP knows nothing about the GF's circumstances. Maybe the son knows she is or was pregnant and is keeping it to himself.

OOP

I don’t know that my son hasn’t already been told about the pregnancy from his ex I only know so much. I can’t help feeling that I need to fix this being so used to dealing with normal life situations as a mum and wife but I’m aware that regarding the pregnancy and paternity it’s none of my business, it only concerns Emily and who she decides needs to know. I’m just guessing Emily hasn’t gone to my son and told him yet.

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Pergamon_

Wow. I am so sorry! First of all, I think you should "stay out of this" in a way. And I mean that in a certain way. YOU shouldn't have to deal with your son: HE has to deal with your son. So you will need to explain to him, that he will need to sit his son down and explain TO HIS SON that he, as his 46M dad, slept with his 19F girlfriends during their relationship and she now might be pregnant. Don't get tricked into the situation that YOU need to tell him. Do not get involved in that.

Once this has been dealt with, your (presumably soon ex) husband will need to talk to your other children and explain these events to them too.

He did this, so he can now put his big boys pants on and deal with the consequences. Those consequences are

• HE will have to face his children explaining this
  
• you will leave him
  
• you will love the shit out of your children and care for them the best you can
  
• you will financially negotiate the absolute fucking best financial deal you can get out of him
  
• You will get help for your children if they need this dealing with this shit show. If you need help, you will get this too.

This is going to be the single hardest thing you have ever done in your life. And as a true mum, you will face this, look the monster straight into the eyes, and then you will pick it up, throw it away and build a new life.

OOP

Thank you so much for giving me the wake up call I need! I don’t know how I’ve gotten into thinking that this is on me to fix! I will speak to my husband later today about telling James. I will also be contacting a therapist for myself and James separately and looking into getting a lawyer for a separation. I’ve always vowed to be the mum that’s there for her children above anything

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Update - after 22 days

^{January 10, 2026}

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UPDATE: My 43f husbands 46m affair partner 19f is pregnant doesn’t know the baby’s father and I don’t know where to begin with fixing this

This is a small update of what’s happened since I made my first post I hope everyone can see this if I haven’t done this correctly please let me know. A little summary of my last post, my husband of 19 years admitted to me that he has been having a 6 month affair with our eldest son’s ex girlfriend (girlfriend at the time the affair started)

Now the update, after I made the post and read so many comments from amazing people seriously thank you to everyone who validated my feelings and helped me to create a plan of action. That night after my children were in their rooms I sat down with my husband told him that I didn’t feel comfortable sharing a bed with him anymore and that he needs to come clean to James about what he has done.

I told him that I was going to contact a therapist for myself and for James and as some comments had suggested I would ask them if they think it is best for James to be told in their company for additional support. My husband didn’t have anything to say he just sat there taking it in. I think that was when he started to realise just how much he messed up. He told me he would be getting a hotel room for the night and staying with family or friends for the time being.

I was able to speak to a therapist that Sunday and after speaking with my sister about everything I thought it was best to tell James as soon as possible as I had now known for a week. My sister took my other 2 kids for the day, they were reluctant to be away again, they knew something was up I told them that once they came home I would explain everything to them and we will be ok no one is ill so don’t start to worry and gave them both a huge hug.

With me there my husband spoke to James he told him similar what to what he had told me but without the excuses and begging for forgiveness. James was quiet for a very long time so my husband went to another room to give us some time alone. I don’t want to go into how James was as that’s not for me to talk about, but he was obviously very hurt we spent a long time talking and consoling each other James then went for a lie down and my husband left for a bit.

That evening when my sister dropped my younger 2 home their father came back and he explained to them about having an affair and that it was with James’ ex girlfriend. We decided not to tell them about the possible pregnancy at this time until paternity is determined and more is concluded about that I’m dealing with the affair and possible pregnancy as two separate issues.

James and I have both gotten std tests all negative so far but awaiting the full results.

Concerning the possible pregnancy I am only focused on helping James through it what my husband chooses to do is his own business. James has contacted Emily regarding a paternity test. He hasn’t shared with me his feelings if the test comes back positive we are taking things one step at a time.

For myself I am back in therapy fortunately I’ve been able to take some time off work and I’m focusing on getting through each day and supporting my kids. Once the results for paternity are back then I can worry about divorcing my husband. I have been to a lawyer for an initial conversation but I think it’s best to just deal with one thing at a time for the sake of my mental health. And my children absolutely come first. The only contact I’ve had with my husband since is him asking about the kids.

I think that’s everything I have to update on currently, I will update again when I have more to share. Thank you again everyone who commented on my first post.

The only question I have now is any advice for divorcing with children involved? I want it to be as easy on them as it can be so we can move on from this mess.

 

COMMENTS

Glittering-Bat353

You are doing great so far! I can't even imagine the toll this is taking on you. Stay in therapy and make sure you are taking care of yourself. You are just as much of a victim in this as your son, and I'm sure you're doing everything you can for him right now. You deserve that for yourself too.

As for divorcing in a way that's best for the kids? I'm pretty sure you're husband already ruined that effort. Stay supportive and open with your children. While I'm in no way saying condone their father in any regard try your best not to talk poorly (I mean like name calling and stuff) about him. His actions are as low as they get so you can't completely avoid this while talking about whats happening, but you dont have to pile it on, ya know?

Does this girls parents know what's going on?

Updateme!

OOP

I would never bad mouth their father to them that would only cause them more pain. Whatever my kids feel towards their father regarding a relationship with him is their individual decision and l’ll support them as best I can. He will still be their father regardless of our divorce

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mutantmanifesto

Jesus Christ poor James.

Updateme

Motor_Boysenberry160 (downvoted)

I know! Poor guy. Also, if the mom stays with his dad he's going to feel betrayed by her as well. The fact that she is not sure of divorcing him until she gets the paternity results is crazy.

OOP

Just to clear it up I’m not waiting on the paternity results to decide if I’m divorcing or not I absolutely am going through with a divorce. However I only have so much mental strength to focus on one thing at a time and supporting James is my priority

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Final Update - after 5 months, 15 days (after 4 months, 24 days from last post)

^{June 03, 2026}

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UPDATE: My 43f husbands 46m affair partner 19f is pregnant doesn’t know the baby’s father and I don’t know where to begin with fixing this

This is a small second update to my first post and probably the last. The first update can be found on my profile. Firstly I want to thank everyone again for the support helpful comments and messages and well wishes for me and my children. Secondly apologies for being so long between posts I’ve been meaning to update but have had a lot to do and focus on staying strong and getting through this difficult time.

As I said in the last update James was awaiting results of paternity, once he got them back he was very nervous to read them I offered to read them for him or to him different ideas but ultimately he told me he didn’t think he was quite ready no matter the result which I respected. This was a huge ordeal and the results could affect his life forever from that point. So he put them away somewhere safe until he was ready. Both James and myself were going to therapy and getting support and I was looking at different options for my other children regarding the divorce and affair.

A few weeks later James came to me and said he wanted to know the results now that he didn’t truly feel ready but he needed to know to be able to further deal with things and progress in his therapy. James is not the father to Emily’s baby but shares DNA due to familial paternity. My husband is the babies father. This was very difficult for both of us. There was huge relief that he wasn’t the father but also a lot of pain, sadness and anger.

I’ve been so proud of how James and my other two children have dealt with all this over the past months things are still very raw and challenging but I’m so proud they know none of this was due to them or anything they did and that we will get through this time together as a family of 4.

Right now I am awaiting divorce proceedings I don’t know what will happen I’m mostly concerned for the house and where me and children will live but I know for the moment they are all safe looked after and loved with me.

My youngest is receiving support from his school and is involved with some afterschool clubs to ensure he doesn’t alienate himself and keep his thoughts and emotions inside I’ve seen good improvement in him and I am super grateful of his school and their understanding.

My middle child has been harder to help given their age they aren’t showing their feelings to me and therapy isn’t their thing I’ve been looking at different options for unconventional therapy ways they can work through their feelings without having to sit and talk to a stranger. They had a few sit down appointments at the beginning but I can tell it’s not their thing any recommendations, links for things in the UK would be so helpful!

As far as things go with me and my husband he has been living between his mothers’ home and friends places I have very limited contact with him only ever regarding our younger two. There have been a couple times where he has messaged me trying to apologise, begging me to forgive him, explaining he didn’t mean for this to happen and wasn’t his fault to which I don’t reply to or waste my time reading.

For those people that suggested I speak to Emily’s parents and tell them about her pregnancy I did not go over there and speak with them. As young as Emily and James are they are both adults and Emily’s pregnancy is hers to share with whom she wishes it’s not my place to tell her parents. They do know she did tell them they sent me a long message expressing their sadness and regret for what happened as well as James which I thanked them for not that any of it is their doing either. It is just unfortunate for us all. Emily is still living at home and is expecting this summer. My husband has plans to get a place for the 3 of them after the baby is born.

I wish Emily and the baby all the best but once the divorce is finalised I don’t want any contact or updates regarding them and my ex husband lives.

Me and my kids will get through this together stronger and create a better future. James has hopes to take a gap year next year and go travelling with friends and I think I might treat his siblings and myself to a trip somewhere too!

 

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Original - 15th June 2026

Update - 21st July 2026

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AITAH for not giving my fiancé’s sister (30F) a plus-one to our wedding for her boyfriend (30M) of one month after she blocked my fiancé (30M)?

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My fiancé (36M) and I (31F) are planning our wedding. We’ve been together for many years, and we recently sent out our invitations.

We decided to follow a general rule for plus-ones: guests only get a plus-one if they are married, engaged, living together or in a more established relationship. We are not giving casual/new partners automatic invites mostly because of numbers, cost and trying to keep things consistent.

My fiancé’s sister (35F) has a very tense relationship with him/us. From our perspective she struggles to have calm and constructive conversations. From her perspective she feels like we don’t understand her and that she is always being attacked.

The last time my fiancé and his sister were together, things ended badly. She was shouting at her young child for what felt like a long time and was saying some hurtful things. My fiancé stepped in and said something along the lines of, “Okay, that’s enough.” She did not take that well, asked him to leave and then blocked him.

Since then she has not spoken to him directly.

When we sent out the wedding invitations we did not give her a plus-one because she has only been with her current boyfriend for about a month. We applied the same rule to everyone else.

Now she has sent their dad to ask why she did not get a plus-one. This has annoyed us because my fiancé is literally blocked by her but she is still demanding a plus-one through a third party instead of speaking to us herself - like an adult.

We feel like it is unfair for her to refuse direct communication with us but still expect us to accommodate her new boyfriend (or apparently she is going to bring her best friend if her and her BF are not together) at our wedding. We also don’t want extra drama on the day, especially given the existing tension.

At the same time, I do understand that she may feel weird attending alone.

AITA for not giving my fiancé’s sister a plus-one to our wedding when she has only been with her boyfriend for about a month and currently has my fiancé blocked?

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lymers

NTA its not even like she will be alone. Its a family event, so she will know a good chunk of people there.

OOP: TRUE! I'm actually going to use that/point that out! She has her whole immediate family as well as her aunts and uncles!

Designer_Thought2907

This is the hill you die on. She already blocked her brother, so what else can she do to kill the relationship?

OOP: True - what relationship is there even?

hailspork

Given that she blocked you, I'm surprised she got an invite.

Aiyokusama

Why is she even coming at all? o.O She has her brother BLOCKED. She's decided to go no contact, so respect that and don't have her at the wedding. NTA for your rule, which is perfectly reasonable and one I wish my cousin had at her wedding. It would have stopped my idiot bf of the time from getting ideas.

OOP: We are very close to just not having her at all! But as she is the golden child he doesn't want to cause waves with his parents - it is all to political and we are beyond frustrated!

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Update - 5 weeks later

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Well... I don't think the plus-one is an issue anymore.

Since my original post there hadn't been any contact between my fiancé and his sister. Then today she reached out to him about an unrelated matter.

He responded politely but the conversation quickly deteriorated - turned into more accusations about past events with both of them clearly seeing things very differently – I have had the same experience with her – there is reality and then there is her reality (spoiler alert - it is not the same). The reason I am bringing this up is in her messages (in the past as well as today) she speaks of the different realities - it makes it very difficult to speak to her.

Eventually my fiancé said that given where things stand it would probably be better if they just left each other alone.

At the end of their conversation he said that while they were speaking she didn't need to worry about the wedding anymore because it would just be awkward for everyone involved – she responded “I wasn’t” – which was a little ironic, considering she'd previously had their dad asking why she didn't get a plus-one and whether she could bring her new boyfriend (or alternatively a friend).

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ilovedragons218

I think you dodged a bullet because she would have caused drama at the wedding, but FYI, she may still try to come; just keep in the back of your mind. Now go & have a great day.

OOP: Thank you and we also think she might show up - but there is a check in at security so we will probably give her name to security to not let her in.

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Original - 10th April 2026

Update - 21st July 2026

Editor's note - partner here refers to business partner, a common way for law firms to be structured

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AITAH if I allow my law firm to be sold or go out of business?

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Lont story short I (M37) am a minority partner in a law firm. My partner (M81) owns 90% of the business, I own 10%. I was brought on about 2 years ago as a means of resolving a cash flow issue. I'm basically a silent partner. It's been great for me as I've made my investment back and then some from my share of profits and he handles all the parts of running a business that suck like bookkeeping, marketing, etc.

My partner has been insistent for about a week now that we make time to have lunch just the 2 of us. Us doing lunch together isn't super unusual, but him being so insistent was, so I knew something was up. Today that finally worked out.

We talked and he told me he thinks it's time to retire. He wants to wrap things up on his end and be done by the end of the year. The big reason he wanted to talk to me is he wants me to buy him out.

Now under our partnership agreement, he had to offer it to me first, so I figured maybe this is just a formality. I said I am happy for him and his retirement, it's well deserved, and he should enjoy the rest of his life. However, I don't want the business.

He seemed pretty taken back by that to my surprise. He said if I didn't take it he has someone else in mind he would sell it to but he'd rather I take it over. I know the attorney he wants to sell to and I like and respect that attorney. He was actually a senior associate at a law firm I worked at when I first became a lawyer and was somewhat of a mentor to me. We still talk pretty often.

He will make the purchase wanting to increase his client base, but that's all the transaction will really be to him. He would want our client book so to speak but he won't want staff and the other parts of the firm.

That's the problem.

I am protected, the new partner either would have to buy me out too or we would have to work out a structure where I become a partner in the merged law firms in some way. Perhaps I'm no longer a partner but I can give up my shares in return for a job or a buyout. I'm going to make money off of this or have a job. It's really not a big deal to me, especially since this other attorney and I have a good relationship, I'm confident him and I would work something out.

My coworkers, however, are not. This lawyer will almost certainly fire more than half of the people I work with. These people rely on this job, have families, mortgages, etc. I would feel terrible knowing I could have saved their jobs and didn't.

On the other hand, I have never wanted to run a business. It's not in my dna to do all of the things being the majority owner is required to do. I don't want to have to worry about things like cash flow, expenses, marketing, etc.

Our conversation ended with my partner saying why don't I take the weekend and truly think about if I want this and we can talk Monday. I said that's unlikely to change things but sure.

I'm not changing my mind. It's just not what I want to do, and it doesn't line up with my goals at this time. I know this means my coworkers will probably lose their jobs.

AITAH for allowing that to happen?

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Brownie-0109

This is not on you If he’s concerned about the livelihood of the other employees there, he should re-consider who he’s selling to

OOP: Idk how concerned he is. I'm concerned

cawkstrangla

While noble, if you don't want to stick around as an owner, then you will lose your power at some point and these people will be fired regardless. You're not really doing anything but delaying the inevitable. At best you can negotiate a buy out that gives these people a nice severance.

I'm not sure what you're really going to accomplish but NTA.

Cezzium

There is a saying.

Do not light yourself on fire to keep someone else warm.

it is difficult to contemplate people being let go. As your partner asked you, spend this time to do the attorney thing. pros and cons. make sure you know the answer to every question you can think of. how much institutional knowledge does the partner have, what would x or y or z look like, etc.

then do what make the most sense to you. If you really think you could make it go with additional staff for operations and it would not drag you down, then do that. if you really cannot see yourself in a major role then you need to let it go.

Cute-Profession9983

How in this are YTA? You're an investor. And if the narrative is to be believed, not a predatory one. You are a 10% minority owner who apparently does nothing but collect checks at this point. I don't think any reasonable person would expect you to suddenly become boss of the business. Cash out! Most of us don't get to...

OOP: I don't just collect paychecks. I also am an attorney and do typical attorney work for the firm

Cute-Profession9983

Are you invested in the day to day operations as an attorney? Your screed made it sound like you were a silent partner in rhe wings. Do the day to day employees see you as someone who would take the reins?

OOP: I have 3 people that report to me directly and when my partner isn't around due to vacation or something like that then everyone reports to me until he returns. They've all reported to me at some point or another.

Cosmo_Cloudy

So you're a boss with a 10% share. These people are probably expecting you to take over because they know they'll otherwise be fired. I know you don't want to buy it, but you also feel concern for these people you've grown to know. Have you considered buying him out to keep your employees, and then selling 90% of the company to someone else again entirely, with the caveat they keep all current employees for a set amount of time, and X amount of time notice of a termination date? Or have you considered telling the guy selling 90% that he should do this with the other guy?

OOP: Easier said than done. I'd have to find a buyer on those terms and that's not going to be easy or potentially even possible.

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Update - 3 months later

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Figured I would update everyone what ended up happening. Long story short, I did not buy the firm, and the firm was sold to the lawyer discussed in my previous email. The sale closed just over a month ago.

The new attorney, as previously mentioned was a former mentor, was happy to take me on as a partner. He told me I could not put any additional money in and my share in the merged firms would be around 4%, I could put money in and buy in at any percentage I wanted up to 25%, or I could be bought out and either just be an employee or find a new job.

I ended up putting in money to the venture and own 10% of the firm post-merger, same as the old firm. My responsibilities remain largely unchanged.

As for my co-workers not all of them lost their jobs.

My old boss/partner is staying on through the end of the year to help with the transition. He is now technically an employee which is a funny dynamic now between him and I. He jokingly tried giving me an order the day after the merger and we both laughed when I told him, from now on I'll be the one giving him the orders. He is then officially retiring at the end of the year and moving out of state to be closer to his son and new grandchild. I found out this is the reason he wanted to get out of the business and retire. He also had a minor health scare that I didn't know about that hastened his decision.

Of the 3 other attorneys in our firm, 1 of them is employed at the new firm. 1 of them was let go but given a month's severance. The 1 I mentioned in comments had demons unfortunately succumbed to their demons about 2 weeks after my post.

Our secretary likewise lost her job as the firm we merged with already had one. She was given severance.

Of our other staff (paralegals, clerks, etc.) of which there were 7 at the old firm, 3 of them got to keep their jobs. However, one of them quit rather than staying on. My paralegal was one of the ones who got to stay along with the paralegal of the other attorney we kept on. The others were given severance.

All employees who lost their jobs were given letters of recommendation from both my former boss/partner and I. I was able to get 1 of the paralegals a job at a firm I knew was hiring. Another 1 of them I heard has a job at another firm through the grapevine. I am not sure what happened to the others.

The last month has been different, but overall, I think everyone still here is happy. My new boss/partner and I get along well so far.

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Old-Ninja-113

NTA Nice! You guys seemed to look after those that got let go. Seems like it worked out!

OOP: We definitely tried to help where we could. Thank you!!

brownmajikk

I’m a little surprised that your valuation in the merged firm was less than half given that the old firm was much larger than the one doing the buying

OOP: Larger by employees and case load, yes, but the other firm had higher value cases and clients. We're also in a space that's rent is pretty pricey where they are in a space that the firm owns the building. We occupied 2 suites in our building and now we're just going to occupy 1 which will shrink costs.

After seeing the books the other firm had a higher profit margin and owning the building also boosts that business' value

Restivethought

Dang this led to someone taking their life?

OOP: No, sorry if it gives that impression. He had issues with addiction and unfortunately those issues claimed his life. It was not believed to be a suicide. Edit: It also happened before anyone at the firm besides my old boss and I knew about the potential merger or my boss looking to sell the company

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