Some good arguments in here I've never heard anyone mention, along with recent news and updates that support them.

I want to propose a reframe of what we're doing with counter-economics.

Standard view: Agorism is an economic strategy to starve the State by withdrawing financial support through black and grey markets.

Deeper view: Agorism is boundary restoration—psychological healing scaled to society.

Here's what I mean:

The State doesn't just extract resources. It violates boundaries systematically:

When you practice counter-economics, you're reclaiming these boundaries: - Every Monero transaction reclaims your informational boundary - Every unlicensed trade reclaims your economic boundary
- Every time you say "no" without asking permission reclaims your psychological boundary

The narcissistic systems lens:

The State operates as a narcissistic system, using tactics that psychologists document in abusive families:

• Manufactures dependency: "You need our services"
• Gaslights resistance: "That's naive/utopian"
• Punishes boundary-setting: "Leaving is dangerous"
• Intermittent reinforcement: Occasional "wins" keep you hoping for reform
• Projects its dysfunction onto you: "You're the problem for not complying"

Sound familiar? Because it's the same playbook.

Why this matters:

Other anarchist frameworks explain what's wrong intellectually: - The State is funded by theft (Rothbard) - Authority is superstition (Larken Rose) - Central planning fails (Mises)

But none explain why people stay psychologically trapped even after understanding this.

Narcissistic systems theory fills that gap: - Why people feel guilty about tax avoidance even when they know taxation is theft - Why "just leave" triggers panic instead of curiosity - Why voting feels mandatory even when you know it's theater
- Why agorism works as sovereignty recovery, not just evasion

Practical shift:

Counter-economics isn't merely "starving the beast."

You're practicing sovereignty recovery. Every private transaction, every encrypted message, every skill developed for independent trade—these are acts of healing, not just tactics.

The State only exists because people believe they need permission to coordinate. Agorism is the practice of remembering you never did.

Question for the community:

Has anyone else noticed that the resistance to agorism sounds exactly like a narcissist's response when you try to leave?

"You can't survive without me" "You're being irrational"
"That's dangerous and selfish" "You need to compromise"

Once you hear the pattern, it's everywhere.

I prefer to just make everyone an illegal

I’m not for amnesty or granting citizenship or anything that expands the tax base.

People should be able to live work and travel freely so long as they aren’t trespassing on someone else’s person, property, or liberty.

Government cannot rightfully own property as they have no legitimate means to purchase it.