r/wow 22h ago

Discussion Blizzard GM death touching mobs in M+23 for their favorite streamer. LOG linked.

7.8k Upvotes

To preface this; I have no idea idea if the title is accurate about the favorite streamer but I did check vods and she was in fact not streaming when this run happened. Also I'm pretty sure that GM was in the dungeon the entire time just watching and waiting.

So I was perusing some m+ logs today while I was at work and stumbled upon this curious one. A miraculous key! No right to be timed, so far behind and yet they pulled it out of nowhere for the win!

Guess my surprise when I couldn't figure out how something died so quick and I dug a bit deeper and a GM death touched the mob... I waited all day to post this hoping blizzard would come out in front of it. But here we are. Another M+ season tainted by cheating or incorrect title recipients. Can't say I'm surprised but this one is a bit more egregious than forgetting to shut off title at the end of a season.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JcfwTd4L19Agx3NX?fight=4&type=resources&hostility=1&source=100.4&eventstart=4705300


r/wow 7h ago

Discussion We can no longer trust any unlogged or unstreamed high end run is legit.

2.3k Upvotes

We now know the following about this GM deathtouching mobs in the +23 NPX:

1) This GM was a personal friend of the people in the run and was using their GM account and abilities to watch the run (just them using it to watch their friends is kinda problematic in and of itself to be honest!) and was in a discord call with them.

2) This was only caught because a pug tank uploaded the log publicly, and would otherwise never have been caught.

The thing is, the only people saying that this was a one off thing are the people who cheated. People who we already know are dishonest. They went on a stream and practically boasted about it. We have no idea whatsoever if this was a one off, if this is commonplace, or anything in between, but just on probability it seems extremely unlikely that the first time a GM does this it just so happens to be caught in a public log. There are thousands of high end runs every week that go completely unlogged and unstreamed and the only evidence we have that they even happened is raider.io capturing it on the Blizzard API, which doesn't give you any information about what went on in that run.

We know there are very close relationships between Blizzard employees, content creators and other high end players. On NA, pretty much everyone who raids or does M+ high end at least knows someone who knows someone who works at Blizzard. It's very possible - and there is even some anecdotal evidence that implies this - that this has been going on considerably longer than just this one run, and it could well be the case that GMs have been similarly interfering with higher raiding too. We just don't know, and can't trust anything not openly logged or streamed anymore. This GM and these people have completely fucked the competitive integrity of the game for good.


r/wow 7h ago

Humor / Meme Nice to see they are already accommodating new 6 person dungeon format, that GM might be invincible, but they still want to feel included <3

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r/wow 17h ago

Humor / Meme The memes are already rolling in.

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r/wow 19h ago

Discussion Blizzard is investigating the GM intervention in the +23 NPX

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r/wow 2h ago

Discussion GM Death Touch - Megathread

911 Upvotes

This is developing into a large story and someone in modmail has mentioned that its important for the community to have somewhere to discuss this. We agree. As new information comes in I will do my best to update this thread.

What we know:

What we don't know and have no evidence of:

  • If this is a pattern.

  • If this is someone helping a friend or if things are being sold.

  • If this has impacted previous titles.

Ex employees in the thread have said that actions like this are audited and in all likelihood this was already being investigated. At this point we are waiting on an official statement on the result of their investigation and I'll update this thread once we know.

This megathread is being provided on two very strict conditions:

  • The witchunt rules are in strict effect. Linking or doxxing information on anyone invovled, the GM in question included will result in a permanent ban. Please report it if you see it but we will be very active in the thread.

    We cannot platform behavior that allows people to harrass people in real life.

  • We will be more heavy handed than usual in the personal attack rules. Insults and slapfights while discussing this aren't acceptable. You're allowed to disagree, but stray shots and personal attacks will not be tolerated.


r/wow 11h ago

Discussion The GM Corrupted Run has been banished on RIO

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Correct me if I'm wrong but raider.io get their data from blizzard API directly, which means this banishment is blizzard's doing. Therefore basically confirming all of the speculation?


r/wow 5h ago

Fluff man S2 m+ is going to be really punishing

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864 Upvotes

r/wow 22h ago

Art UPDATE. Not a WOW player but I made this for my husband, did I miss anything?

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458 Upvotes

He likes it, guys! Phew! Thank you all so much for your super kind replies!

He says to say, 'For the Alliance! New Updates Coming Soon™️'

Planning for a Horde shield has started!!


r/wow 4h ago

Discussion Is anyone else just not hyped for the new season?

315 Upvotes

Maybe it's just me, but I have absolutely zero hype for the upcoming WoW season, and it makes me a bit sad, because I do want to play the game.

Every new season feels like a copy-paste of the previous one. We get a new raid, a different Mythic+ dungeon pool, a gear reset, and then it's the exact same gameplay loop all over again, the same formula.

I'm not saying the content is bad. The raids are usually well made, and some of the dungeons are fun. But after so many seasons, the formula feels incredibly predictable. It feels less like a new season and more like swapping out a few assets while keeping everything else the same.

Maybe I've simply been playing for too long and this is just burnout. Or maybe the seasonal model has become a little too formulaic.


r/wow 11h ago

Question Which one the is the better icequeen?

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289 Upvotes

I personally found the Winter Queen from Sl the more interesting part of the expansion and honestly after getting Tazavesh I would probably ask for more Winter Queen screen time.

Vyanoth is also interesting because she has goals, determinated to achieve them and wants to protect dragonkin. + She oneshotted Odyn.


r/wow 17h ago

Question What is this??

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222 Upvotes

First time playing through classic content via TBC, what the heck is this for in terms of lore? Seems like similar figures to those outside the Dark Portal, no?


r/wow 17h ago

Housing Suggestion: Let Our Alts Live in Our Homes

216 Upvotes

With Patch 12.1.0 adding the ability to let battle pets freely roam around our homes, I think it would be amazing to expand this idea to our Warband characters as well.

Right now, we can choose which character owns the house. It would be great if we could also choose which of our other characters "live" there.

Those selected characters could appear around the house while we're visiting it, performing simple ambient activities such as:

- Sitting on chairs or sofas.

- Walking around the house or garden.

- Reading books.

- Crafting or practicing with weapons.

- Talking and interacting with one another.

- Sleeping, eating, or simply relaxing.

This would make the house feel much more alive and would reinforce the feeling that our Warband is actually living together instead of existing as separate characters on the character selection screen.

To avoid duplicates, if you log in on a character that has been assigned to the house, that character would simply disappear from the list of NPCs while you're playing them, since they are now the active player character. The remaining assigned characters would continue populating the home as usual.

I think this would make Housing feel even more personal and would create a stronger emotional connection to our collection of characters, especially for players who enjoy roleplaying or have long histories with their alts.


r/wow 6h ago

Discussion Legion Set the Standard for What WoW Expansions Should Be

195 Upvotes

Been replaying Legion lately and I can't stop thinking about how that expansion just got what makes an MMO feel like an MMO.

Class Halls, your own questline, artifact weapons, hidden appearances, Balance of Power, class mounts... none of it was perfect, but it all added up to something modern WoW just doesn't have anymore: actual class fantasy and long-term prestige. Playing a Warlock wasn't just "another class" it was your own storyline, your own base, your own followers. It felt like an identity, not a spec.

The part I miss most though is how the prestige stuff was earned. It wasn't RNG, it wasn't tied to the weekly vault. You got it by actually playing the game. Raids, dungeons, world quests, rep grinds, old zones, professions, all of it fed into something bigger. If you saw someone rocking a Balance of Power appearance or a class mount, you knew they put in real time for it. Not luck, not a lucky drop. Actual progress.

That's the thing MMOs are supposed to be good at, giving you a big goal that makes you touch every part of the game over months. That's what makes the reward feel like something, because the grind to get there actually mattered.

I'm not saying bring back every system 1:1, but man, just take the philosophy: make classes actually feel different from each other, give them identity and their own progression, and make prestige stuff something you earn instead of roll for.

Legion had its issues for sure, but for class fantasy, long term progression, and rewards that actually mean something, it's still the blueprint imo.


r/wow 5h ago

Discussion I want every tank to have a mass taunt

182 Upvotes

Im a tank main. Im playing all tanks every season. Right now most of them are 3.5k, with my druid on 3.9k.

That as context, I personally dont like the small error margin i have in high keys (21-22 right now).

If I die, the group mostly dies aswell, full wipe, abandon.

That is a lot pressure on me, which is fine per se, if i atleast get the chance to recover myself.

Like if i get a combat rez, I need something to get the aggro of all enemies again and save the pull.

It is so frustrating and nerve wracking that every death of my can brick a key, when it is ok for a dps to dies twice in a keys and we still manage to time.


r/wow 11h ago

Discussion Blizzard! Give me the unreleased T10 Dk colorvariant and my life is yours!

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133 Upvotes

But seriously...how many unreleased colorvariants exists in the gamefiles for dev knows how many sets?


r/wow 20h ago

Discussion A Lot More Class Tuning, Coordinates Added to Map: 12.1 PTR Dev Notes, July 21st

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r/wow 1h ago

Art I’ve always loved the classic Horde vs Alliance illustration - orc vs human. A true Warcraft icon! Now I finally captured it! (Art by me)

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r/wow 1h ago

Humor / Meme their power is unmatched

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r/wow 19h ago

Discussion You shouldn't get penalized with the 15 minute RDF CD if you can't even ENTER the dungeon.

70 Upvotes

After waiting 10 minutes in queue for a Classic Timewalking, when I tried to enter when it popped, it said "Can't enter instance while an encounter is in progress". This just so happened to be the last boss, so I got no credit for the dungeon, after waiting 10 minutes in queue, and couldn't even queue for FIFTEEN MINUTES due to me being on cooldown from using the random dungeon finder. That shouldn't be a thing that you can get penalized for not even being able to participate in the dungeon.


r/wow 20h ago

PTR / Beta Warlock Devs be trippin' Spoiler

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69 Upvotes

r/wow 17h ago

Discussion Wyrmrest Accord player here, anyone else having disconnect issues every thirtyish minutes?

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68 Upvotes

Haven't been able to get on for the past 15-20ish minutes, and it doesn't seem to be effecting everyone, about half our guild of about 15 on are having the same problem. Locations of said players are all across US as well, so not localized to a west/east/central issue, seems to be randomly wide spread.

Anyone else having this issue?


r/wow 1h ago

Question So did Blizz just forget that Void Incursions are meant to count towards this

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I swear I have done a couple of Incursions (the bigger assault that needs to be at 100% to trigger) since this feature launched and they *still* do not count towards the achievement. Like dang girl did you really just forget to change that?


r/wow 18h ago

Fluff Timeways event was an absolutle blessing for my alts

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50 Upvotes

Really grateful towards blizz for the timeways event, Wasnt sure if i was gonna get em leveled, but the timeways event really made it happen.


r/wow 1h ago

Discussion What is your favorite WoW culture joke?

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I'll go first, the [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] chat chain reaction is one of my favorites among the top same 3 that the community's been laughing at for 20 years