r/short Apr 17 '26

Motivation An advice from a 30 year old dude

208 Upvotes

So this subreddit keeps appearing on my feed, probably because I’m a short man at 166 cm who follows men’s fashion pages and similar content.

Honestly, if I had found this side of the internet before I started dating in the real world, I probably would have stayed a virgin. According to some of the people here, I should be completely doomed anyway. I’m short, bald, and I have crooked teeth.

And yet I have dated women of different heights, including women taller than me.

I’m also a university lecturer, and I read a lot of research on dating, mate preferences, and social status. So here is the scientific version, not the black pill fantasy version.

Yes, height matters. Preferences are real. Women, like men, can have physical preferences, and pretending otherwise is stupid. But research does not support the idea that one trait like height determines your entire dating future. Actual partner choice is shaped by multiple factors at once, including kindness, intelligence, emotional stability, dependability, confidence, physical attraction, and social or economic stability (Buss & Schmitt, 2019; Thomas et al., 2020).

Research also shows that what people say they want does not perfectly predict who they actually choose when interacting in real life. In speed dating studies, stated preferences often did not line up neatly with actual attraction once people met face to face (Eastwick & Finkel, 2008). In other words, attraction in the real world is messier and more human than internet forums want to admit.

Online spaces and dating apps also distort reality. They push people to judge each other quickly and superficially, which exaggerates traits like height. That does not mean the entire dating market works that way offline (Finkel et al., 2012).

To quote my therapist, life is basically a big Souls game and height is just a debuff. Yes, it can make things harder. Yes, you will probably get your ass kicked a few more times than someone playing on easier settings. But that does not mean the game is unwinnable. It just means you may need more patience, more resilience, and a better strategy. And honestly, where is the fun in beating the game with no debuffs?

I have been rejected plenty of times, and height probably played a role in some of those rejections. I say probably because I do not interrogate rejection or obsess over the reason. I am not going to ask someone to explain why they did not want me. That is their choice. Other people are allowed to have preferences, and I do not need to internalise every rejection as a verdict on my worth. At the end of the day, only you get to decide your value in this world.

I have also been through a period of height insecurity myself. After a recent rejection, I went down the rabbit hole of self loathing, so I do understand how dark that headspace can get. But how we feel is not always a perfect reflection of reality. Feelings, emotions, and thought patterns can spiral, and they can also be challenged and changed. Therapy helped me see that. With the right support, self awareness, and work, the way you think about yourself can improve.

What these spaces often ignore is how much insecurity changes the way a person comes across. Neediness, resentment, bitterness, and defeatism are not attractive qualities, and they can do more damage than being a few inches below average.

That is why the advice to men should not be “give up.” It should be “build a life that makes you attractive in a broader sense.” Work on your confidence. Go to therapy if you need it. Practice mindfulness. Focus on your career, not because women are gold diggers, but because ambition, competence, and financial stability signal drive and maturity. Take care of your physical health. Read more. Volunteer. Join communities. Get involved in causes you genuinely care about. Expand your social circles and meet women in real spaces, not just through algorithms and rage bait.

And if you are constantly hitting a wall, take a break from dating for a bit. Reset. Rebuild your confidence. Get your head straight. Stop treating every bad experience like proof that the whole world works one way.

Most importantly, women are not a hive mind. One woman rejecting you does not mean all women think the same. A subreddit full of bitter men is not an accurate sample of reality. People have different preferences, different priorities, and different reasons for being attracted to someone.

Also, be careful with research in general. Research can help us identify trends, but human beings are more complex than a dataset or a single paper. Averages are not destiny, context matters, and how old the research is matters too. Social norms, dating culture, and the way people meet have changed a lot over time, especially with apps and social media. So use research to inform your thinking, not to reduce yourself or other people to a rigid formula.

The point is simple. Height can be a disadvantage. It is not a death sentence. A lot of men are not being ruined by height alone. They are being ruined by an identity built around insecurity, hopelessness, and too much time spent listening to other defeated men online.

References

Buss, D. M., & Schmitt, D. P. (2019). Mate preferences and their behavioral manifestations. Annual Review of Psychology, 70, 77 to 110. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408

Eastwick, P. W., & Finkel, E. J. (2008). Sex differences in mate preferences revisited: Do people know what they initially desire in a romantic partner? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 94(2), 245 to 264.

Finkel, E. J., Eastwick, P. W., Karney, B. R., Reis, H. T., & Sprecher, S. (2012). Online dating: A critical analysis from the perspective of psychological science. Psychological Science in the Public Interest, 13(1), 3 to 66. https://doi.org/10.1177/1529100612436522

Thomas, A. G., Jonason, P. K., Blackburn, J. D., Kennair, L. E. O., Lowe, R., Malouff, J., Stewart-Williams, S., Sulikowski, D., & Li, N. P. (2020). Mate preference priorities in the East and West: A cross-cultural test of the mate preference priority model. Journal of Personality, 88(3), 606 to 620.


r/short Mar 15 '26

Meta Suggestions

5 Upvotes

Ok, I'm stuck at my desk with a bum foot that's been plaguing me for weeks now, so I might as well try to make this time at least a bit productive.

So since I ain't going anywhere, let's have a meta discussion about the sub, and I'll take this opportunity to solicit suggestions.


r/short 6h ago

Motivation 37 yo bald 5’5, and a girl wants to marry me after the second date

74 Upvotes

I’m 37, bald, 5’5 and don’t make a lot of money. Luckily I’m divorced but have no kids and don’t owe anything to my ex. This 27 yo girl with no kids, owns a business making over a million a year, and goes to church (I’m not religious but i know some of you like that quality) wants to marry me after the second date. She won’t stop texting me. Calls me handsome and hot.

Now, I usually don’t go for someone this young, but she initiated and I just gave it a shot.

Personally I’m not ready to marry anyone on the second date and I think it’s ridiculous, and I can’t move that fast. Especially after my marriage. But I’m just writing this to show that on paper, Reddit would tell me it’s over and call me grandpa or something. But reality is, if you’re a good person and have self worth, and are a respectful gentleman, you can find someone.

She is also slightly taller than me. So take that for what it’s worth.


r/short 8h ago

Vent Apparently no one should date me.

21 Upvotes

I was just told from someone that anyone who is attracted to me should be jailed for pedophilia… I’m 21 but admittedly I get mistaken for 12. So I cant date anyone over 18 because theyre supposedly attracted to underaged people, and I’m damn sure not attracted to underaged people. So I guess I’m supposed to be single forever cause I’m short🤷🏽‍♀️


r/short 2h ago

Humor I've lied about my height all these years

5 Upvotes

Went to the doc and was asked what my height was. Said 5'5. Measured me and said I was 5'4.96. I've been lying my entire liife... gah damn it 🤣


r/short 7h ago

Humor Got asked to reach something

11 Upvotes

I was in the supermarket the other day, and this girl probably in her mid-20s asked me if I could help her reach something from the upper part of the aisles. For context, I'm 5'7, and I guess she was around 5'0-5'2. For a moment, I felt how tall people must feel on a daily basis


r/short 2h ago

Heightism What is the real height of Daniel Radcliffe ?

2 Upvotes

I googled it but its saying 165 cm.

Well mine is same as his height .


r/short 7h ago

Question Benefits to being short?

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Hi everyone,
I’m a 30 year old 5’1 petite woman.

I’ve never really felt insecure about my height until recently.

Out of no where, it all just hit me… people saying “she’s cute but not striking”… clothes never fitting properly in any store… feeling uncomfortable in fancy places full of tall people as if everyone’s looking over my head…. Feeling like people can bully or belittle me because of my stature … jokes from family members saying I should model for baby gap… comments on how I get any respect from my students as a high school teacher. It all didn’t sting until recently.

Anyway, I was thinking to gather reasons why being short is beneficial. Things I can do and wear that non short people can’t. Looking for a positive spin on it all :)


r/short 2h ago

Question Iam 14 years old and 5 2 iam kind of worried about my hieght

2 Upvotes

My dad is 5 11 and my mom is 5 6 everyone else is some much taller me and iam worried I will be short for ever


r/short 21h ago

Question Worried mom

61 Upvotes

I’m a short mom. 5’2”. My ex, my son’s dad is super short too. Maybe 5’3”-5’4”. My son is done growing at 16 and is around 5’4”. We saw an xray for an issue and it said his plates have closed. He’s a great kid. Easy going, attractive, smart, funny, muscular. The whole package. I asked him if it bothered him and he said it doesn’t. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t. But I’m not 100 percent sure. I came on here just to check out all you awesome people. And I’m mostly reading about thriving people living great lives. Being a short woman is no big deal. And I’ve always liked short men, obviously I married one even though we later divorced. I guess I’m not really asking anything. I feel like I shouldn’t even worry, but part of me does. There’s so much heightism in our country. It’s constant. I don’t ever want him to be negatively affected by it. Again, he seems super confident. He’s gonna be fine, right?


r/short 1d ago

Vent Genuinely, why?

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1.8k Upvotes

I’ve always been okay with my height, it’s never really bothered me. Since both my parents were pretty tall, I expected to turn out the same. Being the oldest, I was always taller than both my siblings up until they both started hitting puberty. My siblings slowly started passing me in height, but I still didn’t think much of it. I honestly thought I was just a late bloomer but apparently not? I’ve always been active in sports and always tried to eat healthy. I’m 19 now and I doubt I’ll be as tall as my family. All in all, it just sucks that I could’ve been taller. I’m also curious if anyone else is in the same situation?


r/short 6h ago

Question Scoliosis?

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I’m 19F 5’1 (used to be 5’0 but got a random growth spurt this year?) and have 17-19% S shaped scoliosis. (lumbar and cervical) and have pretty bad lumbar lordosis but I’m working on it slowly. I grew up pretty poor and didn’t get enough nutrients. My mother also has scoliosis and should’ve been 5’4 but compressed to 5’2 because of severity. My father is 5’10-5’11.

Is there any hope for me?


r/short 11h ago

Question Question about height-increasing insoles

4 Upvotes

I've been thinking of getting new insoles and thought that might as well get a few inches of height while at it. My biggest problem is the ball of my foot hurting at around 10k steps mark, since my shoes don't offer enough cushioning.

Has anyone here found insoles that actually help with pain, but also increase height? I've heard that many insoles specifically made for giving extra height aren't very comfortable.


r/short 1d ago

Awesome! Stared dating a month ago. My gf (5”8) and me (5”3.5) :)

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996 Upvotes

r/short 5h ago

Question Should I round up to 5’ 8"?

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I’m male 17 years old. So i thought my height was 173cm but it is around 171.5 - 172cm which is around 5' 7.5’’. i wanna know if I can call myself 5’ 8’’ or just be honest as I’m worried others who are my height could tell the difference and make fun of me. I measured at 8 pm.


r/short 1d ago

Humor Experiment on dating apps as 5’7

98 Upvotes

So last week, just as an experiment, I opened an account on a few dating apps and listed my real height. Even though everything else about my profile was above average—income, status, etc.—what caught my eye was how even average-looking women have high standards (not that I’m against that). One woman was 4'4" and had in her bio that she wants a guy who's 6' to 6'3", regardless of how much he makes.

I thought, okay, let me change the demographics to regions where the average male height is 5'5" to 5'7". To my surprise, it was the same thing 😂. Out of 20 profiles, I found only one that was okay with 5'7" and above.

To conclude, I think this is a global epidemic.

Note: I’m not generalizing all women—maybe online dating is just different."


r/short 1h ago

Dating Is 6’0 tall?

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It might be a weird question but I am really curious, I don’t know how to feel, it really affects me that I am 6’0. I am this height since 13 and back then everyone treated me as I was 6’4 and when I grew up I thought I was 6’1 or 6’2 because my height have always been one of the main topic in my appearance, also everyone were telling me that I didn’t need any more inches and that I will grow exactly 6’4 or more but currently I measured and I am just 6’0 tall and in irl I felt really tall because I thought I was 6’1 or more(because it turned out that everyone were lying about their height around me and they always added inches to their height) and on the internet 6’0 considered already average and for girls it might consider short or not enough, all the girls describe ideal male 6’1 minimum or even more. So I really don’t know, I am 6’0 but still confused and insecure about my height so what’s your thoughts? can a girl like me?


r/short 1d ago

I need to touch grass How tall are you? Do you have a girlfriend and have you ever dated? M22 5’3ft

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Hello, I am from Bulgaria and I am 22 years old.

height 160cm / 5’3ft

I haven't had a girlfriend or been on dates and I have trouble communicating with women and I feel stupid because I'm short.

I think I'll never find a girlfriend and I'll die alone. When I see posts about short men finding a girlfriend , I think they've found a girlfriend because they must be handsome in person and as you know, if you're handsome, women will overcome your height.

I'm thinking about whether I should go to a combat sport to become more masculine. For example, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or first go to the gym because I'm quite thin, I'm around 57/58kg, but I still think that no matter what I do, nothing will help me. Here are my photos of how I look, if you want, give me advice on how to improve my appearance, I don't know. Maybe I'm depressed, in my head there's only my height, how ugly I am, and statistics and studies about height that show how important it is.


r/short 1d ago

Question Question for those here who are pretty short (< 4'10)

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This is something that my boyfriend asked me a few days ago: Do you think people who see on the street think you have a medical condition such as achondroplasia or growth disorders?

I'm 4'9 and I have no medical conditions, I just happen to be this short genetically and that's all. I also wonder if that is uncommon (i have never met someone who is this short who doesn't have been diagnosed for anything).

EDIT: I think some people who replied to this think I'm a woman because I mentioned my boyfriend. I'm a guy that just happens to be gay actually.


r/short 1d ago

Question Should I need to bulk as a short guy or it's better to stay lean,wht do u think?

9 Upvotes

Idk I'm the only one who feel like this,bulking as a shorter guy amplifies his short look, and building the neck too,... Looks off on shorter guys??


r/short 1d ago

Vent I honestly hate this subreddit because of how doom and gloom it is

19 Upvotes

For context I am 17m (straight) 5'3" in the U.S, yes there is genuinely people who won't date you for your height or any number of reasons, or look down on you because of your height. But, I think there is just as many people who don't care about that at all or is the deciding factor. And the self imposed attitude that all women only care about height, or that because your short your life is doomed I hate. It is my personal opinion that people use being short as an excuse to not work on themeselves, or just giving up. Instead of accepting it, moving on, and focusing on what you can change.

I am not going to deny people see me as definetely less authoratative and traditional masculine (doesnt help that I have a little bit of a baby face), but work ethic, results, and outgoingness has genuinely made it so I've never really encountered an oppurtunity where height has been a limiting factor. I know i'm still just getting into a career but in highschool I had a large roles in many major clubs, and had a few internships/jobs, and got into a really good university.

And with relationships the idea that because you are short means you are doomed I find equally disappointing. This past school year (senior year of high school) I haven't really focused on building a relationship with anyone because I would be leaving for university, multiple different girls had crushes on me this year and throughout high school I have had other relationships/situationships. Most of them were taller than me...

Two things I have noticed is that meeting people in person and building friendships first helps before moving to something more serious, and you can usually tell if they are intrested. And from my experience bi-girls are more willing to date short guys... I will say my face has a more adrogenous so maybe that has something to do with it idk.

Anyways this is a rant and I know everyone has different experiences but I really think short guys overvalue height when there is so many other things that matter. Like yeah we're short, okay everyone knows that so find people who value you for you, and if they immidiently dismiss you because of height you probably didnt want to be close to them anyways.


r/short 2d ago

Dating Dating a short guy and want him to feel confident

94 Upvotes

So I’m dating a guy who is 5’4 and I’m 5’4 as well. He is always super confident which I love. I don’t care about his height at all. Anyways he’s never mentioned his height or being insecure about it but this morning we went to the gym and there was a tall buff guy next to me on the treadmill. When I was done the guy I’m dating comes over to me and said is the tall guy with the muscles next to you your type? I said huh because I was genuinely confused because it came out of nowhere. He did it again and he said the tall guy. Idk what to say or do to show him that I honestly don’t care about his height and that I like him just the way he is.


r/short 1d ago

Vent why is the public perception of height amongst younger people being inflated?

10 Upvotes

FYI I am a young person, but me and my friend were talking about it, how amongst the younger generations the average height to which someone should be considered tall is increasing and increasing. Why is that the case? what is the benefit of it being like this?


r/short 2d ago

Dating How bad is it in the countries of y'all?

15 Upvotes

Let's be real, the absolute pinnacle of heightism is USA, unfortunately, brazilian people love to import cultural stuff from there, and a bit of our own stuff has made that in my 20+ years of life ive only seen a couple with a taller gf once

Then in 2023 i went to Germany for a ERASMUS semester and would say couples with same height/ taller girl were as common as lgbt couples, like, would see once a week or so

Getting to know other nationalities seems like countries with more sexist cultures (here, India, Turkey) have more heightism why countries with more gender equality seems to not care much about it

This made me think honestly that until i move (my goal until 2030) i wont get much action

Yes, women here openly mock you for height, which opposes some stuff that the internet might say about south America

Im not exclusively looking for a taller gf, but a culture where neither of us feel like it is a problem


r/short 2d ago

Question (Cis hetero men 5’7 and below) Have you ever been in a relationship? (2+ months)

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Not counting situationships or talking stages

1374 votes, 5m ago
340 Yes (age 16-30)
432 No (age 16-30)
129 Yes (age 31 and above)
67 No (age 31 and above)
406 Women/above 5’7/gay/Results