With the point increases to victrix guards, aren’t terminators a better cheaper alternative?

GW PLEASE!

I was reviewing the app after the recent update and noticed that Tigurius can attach to a vanguard veteran squad sans jump pack.

I haven't finished but I tried my hand at freehand and.... idk lol

So I wanna be an ultramarine. It’s how my stuff is painted.

Really finding it hard to squeeze a cheap hero in 1k lists (Uriel, Tiberius, etc) without making my 1k list worse or less competitive

I’d run Bobby G or Calgar if I really could but that’s pts prohibitive. 😂 we play pretty serious 1k lists with 2 impulsors and a tank in my friend group, for example.

Any suggestions?

I know this is a. Vague post. I’m down for any space marine list. But so far trying to make it UM-specific just nerfs it, and the points changes only make that worse.

I may end up just running a cheap hero from another faction? No. I couldn’t.

I've always loved the look of Sternguard, but I've often been disappointed by their damage output.

With the Librarius detachment, I found the Librarian with Fusillade very interesting for Anti-Monster/Vehicle 4+, Sustained Hits 1, AP-1, and a 4++ invulnerable save. Everything Sternguard needed!

Now, with the updated enhancement, I prefer to put it on regular Intercessors.

Any ideas on how to use Sternguard now?

Ps: pic of my lovely Sternguard

Just curious which units people opt to go with when utilizing Uriels DS ability. Personally, Infernus or Flame Aggressors stand out for their potential Damage Output (especially when in Firestorm), but I could see others like Sternguard making great use of his ability. Appreciate all the feedback on this.

So far in the hobby, I have bought two boxes: the Combat Patrol Starter Set and Armageddon. My current army list is Ancient, Captain, Captain in Terminator Armor, Chaplain with Jump Pack, Librarian, Intercessor Squad, Eradicator Squad with Heavy Bolters, Infernus Squad, Land Speeder, Terminator Squad, and Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs. This comes out to exactly 1000 pts, but I think it might be too character-focused. Eventually I want to expand to an army with Calgar, Titus, and maybe Gulliman. I want to know what some good ideas would be to add to my 1000pt army to make it a better start to a future 2000pt army.

Hello all, I am wanting any and all tips and advice on how to improve my miniature painting. This is my 11th model ever painted and first ever based model.

I want to improve more and am open to all suggestions. Thank you! The Emperor Protects.

I brought the recent 500 worlds Titus set of minis when they came out earlier in the year, but it would be cool to have a bunch of regular human pdf infantry to go alongside my collection of Ultramarines.

Wondering whether anyone had recommendations for sets that could be kitbashed into that Space Rome/Greek aesthetic?

One of my favorite blueberry successors, I wanted to get creative with this kill team member

With the cost reduction how Do you feel about Them?

For me since they ve lost assault on theyre Weapons i felt theyre not worth .

Less oc than a 5man ,less wound than a 5man.. Alright t6..but most Weapons that can handle marine can ez handle gravis....

Any paint advice to make this better or push it beyond?

~10 months in the hobby. Finally got these truly finished. That last 15% took way longer than I expected but I’m happy with them now.

So with the new points changes cato and 6 victrix with champ and banner is 360 points. The exact same as 10 assault terminators with TH&SS. Calgar can lead both squads so i am just comparing both squads.

Victrix and cato deal more damage on average due to higher amount of attacks. Str is lower but the banner can help with that once. Termies do have dev wounds but only 3 attacks per termies is not much. Victrix also hit on a 2+ while termies hit on a 3+

Termies are more defensive with higher wound pool of 40 instead of the victrix guard 23 wounds. Termies have a 4+ invul while victrix have a -1 to wound. the invul will only help against ap 3 or higher.

Cato does give the victrix a lot more tricks with a flat 6 inch reactive move and heroic intervention for cheaper. He can either reactive move away to get out of charge range or at least make it a lot harder. he could also reactive move closer so he is within 6 inches of somebody to charge even if they didn't charge for only 1cp. Termies can potentially battleshock opponents while in melee in both player turns.

Also foot print of termies is a lot bigger and thus harder to hide or be able to put them all on an objective for cover.

His name is stolen from Emperor zeno of the Roman empire .

So I’m one of those hobbyist who had a big pile of shame and kept adding to it. I’ve finally jumped at the chance to go to Warhammer World and play in the First Contact event this weekend.

1000 points, painting isn’t a requirement but I wanted to 1. Try my hand at actually using an airbrush and 2. Make them actually read as ultramarines.

Currently have done: black primer - shadow base coat - main colour zenithal. Feel like another highlight layer and edge highlight will really set these guys off.

Anyway…. I’ve put my list below, any last minute tips for playing/ is the detachment and force disposition I’ve selected good for a beginner to get to grips with the game.

Thanks!

First Contact (995 Points)

Space Marines
Ultramarines
Reclamation Force (2 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Incursion (1,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Marneus Calgar in Armour of Antilochus (155 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Gauntlets of Ultramar

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (160 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Master-crafted power weapon
◦ 1x Neo-volkite pistol
• 5x Bladeguard Veteran
◦ 5x Heavy bolt pistol
◦ 5x Master-crafted power weapon

Attached unit 2

Chaplain with Jump Pack (75 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol
• 1x Crozius arcanum

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (105 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant with Jump Pack
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon
• 4x Vanguard Veteran with Jump Pack
◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon
◦ 1x Plasma pistol

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (80 Points)
• 1x Intercessor Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Bolt rifle
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Intercessor
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Bolt rifle
◦ 4x Close combat weapon

OTHER DATASHEETS

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 Points)
• 1x Armoured feet
• 1x Ballistus lascannon
• 1x Ballistus missile launcher
• 1x Twin storm bolter

Redemptor Dreadnought (205 Points)
• 1x Icarus rocket pod
• 1x Macro plasma incinerator
• 1x Onslaught gatling cannon
• 1x Redemptor fist
• 1x Twin storm bolter

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Astartes chainsword
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Scout
◦ 1x Astartes shotgun
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Missile launcher
◦ 1x Scout sniper rifle

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Is there anything that doesn’t make sense in the drip?