From authentic hadiths:

Women are Majority in Hell and Deficient in Intelligence and Religion

“I had a chance to look into the Paradise and I found that majority of the people was poor and I looked into the Fire and there I found the majority constituted by women.”
Sahih Muslim 2737

“Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of `Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).’ They asked, ‘Why is it so, O Allah’s Messenger?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Allah’s Messenger! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?’ He said, ‘Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?’ They replied in the affirmative. He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?’ The women replied in the affirmative. He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her religion.’”
Sahih Bukhari 304

The Quran verse he is citing:

“Call in two men as witnesses. If two men are not there, then call one man and two women out of those you approve as witnesses, so that if one of the two women should forget the other can remind her.”
Quran 2:282

Women Invalidate Prayer Like Dogs and Donkeys

"The Messenger of 'Allah (ﷺ) said: When any one of you stands for prayer and there is a thing before him equal to the back of the saddle that covers him and in case there is not before him (a thing) equal to the back of the saddle, his prayer would be cut off by (passing of an) ass, woman, and black Dog. I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil."
Sahih Muslim 510a

Aisha's response to this: "You likened us to the asses and the dogs."

It was mentioned before 'A'isha that prayer is invalidated (in case of passing) of a dog, an ass and a woman (before the worshipper, when he is not screened). Upon this 'A'isha said: You likened us to the asses and the dogs. By Allah I saw the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saying prayer while I lay on the bedstead interposing between him and the Qibla. When I felt the need, I did not like to wit to front (of the Holy Prophet) and perturb the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) and quietly moved out from under its (i. e. of the bedstead) legs.
Sahih Muslim 512d

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Hello everyone, I just wanted to ask are there any pashtuns from KP over here, I wanted to ask them how do you deal with our traditional and conservative families while being agnostics(atheists etc ).

Hi guys. You are either the most brilliant people in this country or the dumbest. Either way, you're free. I kind of lost hope and thought about leaving this country to connect with like-minded individuals, but I'm just curious what Pakistan has to offer.

A bit about me, 27M, I'm in the ~500 only qualified members of this country, top 1% earner, and top 0.1% for my age. Money isn't really it, though, and I like to build on the side and hit the gym regularly. I guess the actual mortality is a great motivator xd. I live in Isb, and if it wasn't for the massive disadvantage of living in this country, I would actually love to stay here. Part of the reason I'm posting is because I might be wrong about the people here. There must be people like me.

So, this post is about connecting with accomplished individuals from here and just exploring the secular side. What do you do? Do you plan to date here? What's your story? I have an interesting one if you'd like to know.

One thing I'd like to clarify: I see people who just become disrespectful and too extreme towards religion, especially the one they leave. I'm not like that and identify as agnostic. This is also one reason why I avoid such groups. The individual is more important to me. Found a good friend here on reddit, and that's my only atheist friend from here. We've never met, though, after all these years.

The Quran describes Dhul Qarnayn's journey:

“And he followed a road till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout.”
Quran 18:85-86

The full story goes like this:

The Dhul Qarnayn story begins: “They will ask thee of Dhu’l-Qarneyn.” In it, he traveled until he reached (balagha) the setting place of the sun and found (wajada) the sun setting in a muddy spring, and found (wajada) a community near it. Then he reached (balagha) the rising place of the sun where people had no shelter from it. Then he followed another path until he reached (balagha) a place between two mountains, where he found (wajada) a people asking for help against Gog and Magog. He built an iron and copper wall between the cliffs to seal them off until doomsday.
Quran 18:83-102

Quran 18:86 in Arabic word for word creates two independent problems:

1. First, Dhul Qarnayn reached (balagha) a location: the setting place of the sun (maghriba l-shamsi).
2. There, he found (wajada) the sun setting in a muddy spring (ʿaynin ḥami-atin). And he found (wajada) a community near it.

The earliest tafsirs, including Tafsir al-Tabari, literally said the sun set in a muddy spring:

“The sun sets in a spring of murky, black mud; then it falls down in prostration beneath the Throne, seeks permission [to rise again], and is granted permission.” (on Quran 36:38)
“This means that the sun and moon enter beneath the earth from the west and emerge from beneath the earth in the east, then travel through the sky until they set in the west. This is their orbit.” (on Quran 36:40)
“‘He found the sun setting in a muddy spring’ - that is, a hot, black spring.” (on Quran 18:86)
Tafsir Muqatil (d. 767 AD)

“It has reached me that the sun sets in a spring, and the spring hurls it to the east.”
Tafsir Sa’id b. Mansur (d. 842 AD)
Tafsir al-Tha’labi (d. 1035 AD)
Tafsir al-Suyuti (d. 1505 AD)

“A city with twelve thousand gates; were it not for its inhabitants’ voices, people would hear the sun fall as it sets.”
Abu al-Shaykh, al-Azama (d. 979 AD)
Tafsir al-Suyuti (d. 1505 AD)

“The reading ḥamiʾah means [a spring] of black, foul-smelling mud; ḥāmiyah means ‘hot.’ … ‘And he found (wajada) beside it a people’ - that is, beside the spring in which the sun sets.”
Tafsir al-Samarqandi (d. 984 AD)

Tafsir al-Tabari (d. 923 AD), widely considered one of the most authoritative Quranic commentaries, on Quran 18:86

Tafsir al-Tabari preserves the debate between Muhammad's Companion Ibn Abbas and the salaf over whether the spring where the sun sets is muddy or hot. And Ibn Abbas, who Muhammad prayed for to get the correct interpretation of the book (Sunan Ibn Majah 166), said that the sun sets in a muddy spring. Tabari says both readings are correct because the sun could set in a spring that is both hot and muddy:

Allah says: (Until, when Dhul-Qarnayn reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring.) The readers differed on how to read this. Some of the readers of Madina and Basra read it as (in a muddy spring), meaning that the sun sets in a spring that contains mud. While a group of the readers of Medina and the majority of the people of Kufa read it as, (in a warm spring) meaning that the sun sets in a spring of warm water.

Al-Husayn b. Al-Junayd ← Sayd b. Salamah ← Ismail b. Aliyah ← Uthman b. Hadir: I heard Abdullah b. Abbas said: Muawiyah recited this verse, and he said (warm spring) and Ibn Abbas said: it is (muddy spring). He said: So they sent to Ka'b Al-Ahbar and asked him. Ka'b said: As for the sun, it disappears in 'Thatin', which matched what Ibn Abbas said, and the word tha'at means "mud".

And in my (Tabari's) mind the correct opinion is to say that they are both popular readings in the land, and each one has a correctness about it and an understandable meaning, and neither contradicts the other, for it is possible that the sun sets in a hot spring that has mud and sludge, so a reader who uses "hot spring" is describing its temperature, and the reader who uses "muddy spring" is describing that it has mud and sludge. Both versions have been narrated to us.

Muhammad b. Al-Muthanna ← Yazid b. Harun ← The common people ← A freed slave of Abdullah b. Amr ← Abdullah: "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, looked at the sun when it set, and said: 'In the blazing fire of Allah, in the blazing fire of Allah: If it wasn't for Allah's command, the sun would burn all those who are on earth.'"
Tafsir al-Tabari (d. 923 AD) on Quran 18:86

They started changing it only after it became too embarrassing.

See more here:
https://islamsproblems.com/quran-sun-sets-in-muddy-spring/

I just never understood pakistani clothing, i wish i was born into a culture where just wearing simple t shirt, pants, skirts, normal dresses was considered normal, some people here dont even consider simple modest t shirts modest enough especially on women. So i tend find shopping for pakistani clothing very boring since i dont seem to like pakistani clothing in general since i never understood traditional clothing. Even for weddings, i just sometimes wish normal dresses and suits wear normalized like it is in western or even some arab weddings as well. Sure some pakistani clothing can be comfortable but that's about it.

کیا پرتگال میں نقاب پر پابندی واقعی سیکورٹی خدشات کی بنیاد پر لگائی گئی ہے، یا پھر سیکورٹی کو صرف ایک بہانہ بنایا گیا ہے؟

ہماری ایکس مسلم کمیونٹی کی بڑی اکثریت اس طرح کے اقدامات کو کھلے دل سے خوش آمدید کہتی ہے۔ بہرحال، ہر معاملے کی طرح اس کا ایک دوسرا فکری پہلو بھی ہے، اور میں اپنی یہ ذمہ داری سمجھتا ہوں کہ اپنی کمیونٹی کے سامنے اس پہلو کو بھی رکھوں، تاکہ اگر اس معاملے میں ہم کہیں جذباتی یا سطحی رویے کا شکار ہیں، تو فکری طور پر اپنی اصلاح بھی کر سکیں۔

ڈیئر دوستو!

جب کوئی حکومت نقاب پر پابندی لگاتی ہے تو مذہبی رہنماؤں کو ایک موقع مل جاتا ہے کہ وہ اصل بحث سے فرار اختیار کریں۔ وہ فوراً یہ بیانیہ بناتے ہیں کہ "اسلام خطرے میں ہے"، "مسلمانوں پر حملہ ہو رہا ہے"، اور خود کو مظلوم ظاہر کرتے ہیں۔ یوں بحث عورت کی آزادی، انسانی مساوات اور مذہبی تصورات کے بجائے صرف ریاستی پابندی کے گرد گھومنے لگتی ہے۔

یہی وجہ ہے کہ نقاب پر پابندی بعض اوقات مذہبی طبقوں کے لیے ایک تحفہ بن جاتی ہے۔ انہیں اپنے نظریات کے دفاع کے لیے ایک نیا دشمن مل جاتا ہے۔

اگر واقعی حجاب اور نقاب کے تصور کو چیلنج کرنا ہے تو ہمیں اس کی بنیادی فکری بنیادوں پر سوال اٹھانے چاہئیں۔

اصل سوال یہ ہے کہ عورت کے جسم کو "فتنے" کا ذریعہ کیوں سمجھا گیا؟ کیوں عورت کی عزت کو اس کے لباس اور جسم چھپانے سے جوڑا گیا؟ اور کیوں تاریخ کے بعض اسلامی معاشروں میں آزاد عورت اور باندی عورت کے لیے شرم و حیا کے الگ الگ معیار موجود تھے؟

یہاں ایک بنیادی تضاد سامنے آتا ہے:

اگر عورت کا بال، چہرہ یا جسم مرد کی خواہش کو بھڑکانے والا سمجھا جاتا تھا، تو پھر وہی اصول باندی عورتوں پر اسی طرح کیوں لاگو نہیں ہوتا تھا؟ اگر پردہ واقعی ایک ابدی اخلاقی حکم تھا، تو غلام عورتوں کے لیے اس میں فرق کیوں رکھا گیا؟

سوال یہ ہے کہ اگر حجاب واقعی شرم و حیا ہے، تو پھر اسلام کا اللہ باندی عورتوں کو حجاب کے بغیر اور ننگے سینوں کے ساتھ پبلک میں کھڑا کروا کر بے حیائی اور بے شرمی کا ذمہ دار کیوں نہیں ٹہرا؟

سوال یہ ہے کہ ایک عورت کے حجاب نہ کرنے سے معاشرے میں فساد پیدا ہوتا ہے تو اسلامی معاشرے میں ہزاروں باندی عورتوں کے بغیر حجاب اور ننگے سینوں کی وجہ سے فساد کیوں نہیں پھیلا؟

یہ سوال کسی لباس کے ٹکڑے سے زیادہ گہرا ہے۔ یہ پورے اخلاقی نظام پر سوال اٹھاتا ہے جس میں عورت کی قدر، آزادی اور عزت کو اس کے سماجی درجے کے ساتھ بدل دیا جاتا تھا۔

میری نظر میں زیادہ مؤثر راستہ یہ نہیں کہ مغربی ریاستیں نقاب اتارنے کا حکم دیں، بلکہ یہ ہے کہ کھلی فکری بحث ہو، تاریخ سامنے رکھی جائے، اور مذہبی دعوؤں کا تنقیدی جائزہ لیا جائے۔

کیونکہ پابندی سے ایک مظلومیت کا بیانیہ پیدا ہو سکتا ہے، لیکن سوال اٹھانے سے سوچ بدلتی ہے۔

علامتوں سے جنگ کرنے کے بجائے بنیادی نظریات کو چیلنج کرنا چاہیے۔ اگر کوئی تصور واقعی انصاف، مساوات اور انسانی وقار کے خلاف ہے تو اسے دلیل کے ذریعے شکست دی جانی چاہیے، نہ کہ صرف قانون کے ذریعے دبایا جائے۔

۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

ڈیئر ایکس مسلمز!
آئیے اپنی خامیوں پر نظر ڈالتے ہیں۔

1۔ پہلی حقیقت یہ ہے کہ ہم اپنی کمیونٹی اور غیر مسلموں اور خود مسلمانوں تک یہ "آگہی" پہنچانے میں اب تک برے طریقے سے ناکام ہیں کہ اسلام نے پبلک میں باندی عورت کے حجاب پر پابندی لگائی ہے اور اس کے سینے ننگے رکھے ہیں۔
باندیوں پر حجاب کی پابندی کا تو پھر پچھلی ایک دہائی میں لوگوں کو کچھ پتا چلنا شروع ہو گیا ہے، مگر ننگے سینوں والی حقیقت سے آج بھی بہت ہی کم لوگ اگاہ ہیں۔

2۔ چونکہ غیر مسلموں کو اسلام کی اس کمزوری کا علم نہیں ہے، اس لیے وہ اسلام کا راستہ روکنے کے لیے اکثر نقاب پر سیکورٹی کے نام پر پابندی لگانے کی کوشش کرتے ہیں۔

حالانکہ حقیقت یہ ہے کہ اسلام کا فساد اس قدر بڑا ہے کہ ہمیں ایسے کسی ثانوی بہانے کی ضرورت ہی نہیں ہے اور آگہی کے دم پر ہی اسلام کا مکمل قلع قمع کر دینا عین ممکن ہے۔

3۔ میں آپ کو حلفیہ بیان دے رہا ہوں کہ میں مسلمانوں سے 10 سال سے اس حجاب کے موضوع پر اردو اور انگریزی میں مسلم اپالوجسٹوں سے بحث و مباحثہ کر رہا ہوں اور ایک مرتبہ بھی ایسا نہیں ہوا ہے کہ حجاب کے موضوع پر مسلمان باندی کا سوال آنے پر فرار ہو کر بھاگے نہ ہوں۔

یعنی اکثر مسلمان لولے لنگڑے بہانے بنا کر اسلام کا دفاع کرتے ہیں۔ مگر باندیوں کا مسئلہ اتنا شدید ہے کہ حجاب کے معاملے میں وہ لولے لنگڑے بہانے بنا کر بھی اسلام کا دفاع نہیں کر پاتے ہیں اور انہیں مکمل شہ مات کا سامنا ہوتا ہے۔

چنانچہ اپنی Strong Point کو سمجھیے، اور اسے دانشمندی سے استعمال کیجئے ۔۔۔ اور اس Strong Point کو ایسے پوائنٹ سے تبدیل نہ کیجئے کہ جس کا اثر کم ہو، یا الٹا ہو۔

بلکہ الٹا، جس طرح 5 وقت کی نماز کی اور تراویح کی میں بالکل مخالفت نہیں کرتا کیونکہ میرے نزدیک یہ مسلمانوں کو ایک "سزا" لگی ہوئی ہے، اسی طرح جو مسلمان خواتین خود سے حجاب اور برقعہ اور نقاب لے رہی ہیں، انہیں اس "سزا" میں مبتلا رہنے دیجئے، اور قانون سازی صرف یہ کیجئے کہ جو لڑکیاں اور بچیاں اپنے خاندان والوں کے دباؤ میں حجاب کر رہی ہیں، مگر وہ نہیں کرنا چاہتی ہیں، تو حکومت ان کی اتنے بڑے پیمانے پر امداد کرے کہ وہ گھر والوں کو چھوڑ کر بھی اپنی زندگی بسر کر سکیں۔ اور اگر خاندان والے زبردستی حجاب کروا رہے ہیں تو انہیں سزا دینے کا قانون بنائیے۔ (اس موضوع پر تفصیلی پوسٹ پھر کبھی مستقبل میں کہ مغرب میں کون سے ایسے قوانین نہیں بن رہے ہیں جس کا اصل فائدہ ہو سکتا ہے مسلم اور اسلام کے فتنے و فساد کو روکنے کے حوالے سے)۔

Hello everyone. I clarify at the beginning that I'm making this post not to demean any religion or ethnicity. I just want to ask a question and state some facts. I don't hate or insult any particular community or religion. I just saw on X(Twitter) many Indian and subcon muslims claiming muslim athletes like football players current playing at the world cup. I don't mean to demean any community but it's true that Hindus are the most successful religious group in the subcontinent. Again I don't hate muslims or any other religion but they are far behind at sports compared to Hindus. Almost all of India's top athletes are Hindus and some Sikhs. Though this isn't related to Indian Muslims but I have seen many pakistanis too claim foreign muslims amd demean Hindus on X. What's funny is that pakistan literally won an olympic medal after 32 years while India has won 24 medals at the last 5 olympics most of which were won by Hindus and some Sikhs. Not only that be it in sports like hockey, badminton, shooting, wrestling, boxing, tennis, table tennis, athletics. All of India's medals are won mostly by Hindus. I genuinely find this act of muslims to be illogical. Lastly I do support Indian muslim athletes like Nikhat Zareen and Suhail Bhat too.

Commercial "Nikah Halala" operations are controversial businesses in Pakistan. Operating primarily in major cities like Karachi, Lahore, and Islamabad, these "halala centers" or rogue clerics facilitate temporary, paid marriages so a divorced woman can legally remarry her first husband after an irrevocable triple talaq.

Not so fun fact: it’s allowed in all the madhabs. Never let the apologists bullshit you what’s permissible in Islam.

The yellow text is:

“And it is related from him [Aḥmad] that he said: If she is small — by what means would she undergo istibrāʾ, if she is a suckling infant (raḍīʿa)?”

(Istibra is iddah for non-free girls)

“It has been said: as for when she is a young girl whose like is not had intercourse with — kissing her (qublatuhā) and physical contact with her are not forbidden. This is Aḥmad’s explicit ruling (manṣūṣ) in one of the two reports from him, chosen by Abū Muḥammad [al-Maqdisī, i.e. Ibn Qudāma]…”

Quran verses authorizing sex with captives ("those your right hands possess"):

• Quran 4:24: "Also [forbidden are] married women—except [female] captives in your possession."
• Quran 23:5-6: "And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed."
• Quran 70:29-31: "Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they are not to be blamed — But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors."

Verse Context (Authentic Hadith):

"the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:
" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)"
Sahih Muslim 1456a

Muhammad's Example:

"It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse"
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959

• Muhammad killed Safiya's family, tortured and killed her husband Kinana for treasure, then had sex with her in a tent on the road back
• Muhammad beheads 600-900 men and takes Rayhana as a sex slave (Banu Qurayza)

Muhammad on whether to pull out when having sex with captive women:

Muhammad's men wanted to have sex with women taken in war as captives. They asked Muhammad whether it was ok to pull out. Muhammad said it doesn't matter, because if God willed a baby, it would happen anyway.

"O Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger, and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born."
Sahih Muslim 1438a

• Parallel Narration in Sahih Bukhari

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com/quran-verses-supporting-hadiths/

Let me know what y’all think

Yeh how’s that working out in afganistan for you?

TTP Suicide bomber.  He blew himself on 5 Feb 2023

This blind, faith-based reproduction mindset is exactly why Pakistan is trapped in a permanent cycle of poverty.

When i was 8 - 11 i used to go madarsa, Very proud muslin but, I could't remember sipara at time he gave because i had no interest, So my teacher (Qarisaab) beat me soo hard with stick that my hands bleed, Sometime i even try to run away from qari so he send some boys who were about 16 - 21 to hold me give me to the qari so i can get beat, During time i start crying he even laugh at me with other students.

How is this fair moderation?

Mods, seriously… are you serious?

Jis mulk me paida hote hi bchy k kaan me azaan di jati hai. Naam religion decide krta hai. 4 saal ki age se Noorani Qaida pakra k Qari k hawale kr dete hain. Arabic parho chahe aik lafz smjh aaye ya na aaye. Don’t even get me started on child abuse cases physical and sexual both. School me Islamiyat compulsory. Ghr me namaz. Roza. Masjid. TV pe deen. Rishtydaro k lectures. Har khushi, har gham, har event religion k around. Puri upbringing Islam k gird ghoomti hai

Bachpan se hme bataya jata hai kya sochna hai, kya bolna hai, kis se darna hai aur kis pe yaqeen rkhna hai

Aur jab bcha sawal puchta hai to jawab kya milta hai?

“Astaghfirullah”

“Shaitan waswasy dal rha hai”

“Allah behtar janta hai”

“Iman kmzor hai”

“Zyada sawal mt kro”

Ya phir daant, dhamki, sharmindagi aur molviyon ka guilt tripping

Critical thinking ki jaga ratta marna, sawal dabana aur authority ko bina challenge kiye maan lena sikhaya jata hai

Aur phir jab wohi bcha bara hoke bachpan se jo kuch uske dimagh me bhara gaya us pe sawal uthana chahe, uske bare me baat krna chahe ya apni kahani share krna chahe, mods bolte hain, “Islam sirf hafte me ek din”

Kya mazak hai?

Humari puri zindagi is religion ne shape ki hai. Obviously hum usi pe baat krenge. Ye koi random topic nhi, ye humari identity hai

Har criticism ko “Islamophobia” keh dena intellectually lazy hai. Har questioning person hater nhi hota. Bohat se log sirf apni conditioning ko unpack kr rhe hote hain.

Mods ka kaam respectful discussion ko encourage krna hona chahiye, na k discussions ko khatam krna ya conversations ko limit krna

Aur har us subreddit se meri sakht disagreement hai jo discussion ko censor krta hai…start encouraging respectful discussion instead of shutting it down.