Establishment Democrats: "Can't we kinda half-condemn Netanyahu? Send him a letter or slap him on the wrist? We still need his checks for re-election."
We might as well make a public fund for elections. Cap election spending in the fund and treason charges if your caught bypassing it with foreign aid. There's need to be a lot more changes for this to take effect and it'd never pass but...
Never say never. Keep talking about these ideas, write members of congress, protest with signage about it, engage with others on why it is necessary. Social change seems impossible to a lot of people until it isn't. Berlin wall, prosecuting Milosevic and Rwandan leadership, revolutions of 1989, etc. As Nelson Mandela said, "it always seems impossible until it's done."
The max a party can spend in the UK is less than £30M. John Oliver joked that in the US thirty million dollars is the budget for a candidates balloons.
In 2024, Democrats spent about $6.7 billion, Republicans spent about $7.6 billion, and third-party candidates, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr., spent a little more than $500 million
The founding fathers were human beings, absolutely. I think that they get made to be almost larger than life sometimes, But we should never forget their human nature. That said, they were also the elite of their society. Most of them were career politicians, land owners with thousands of acres in their possession, Transcontinental business owners, Or were just generally wealthy as hell.
The last time I went to Mount Vernon they were talking about the wallpapers in Washington's house, and they made special mention that most of them were imported from London on custom order. I think that kind of gives you an idea of the quality of life that Washington had, and his position inside of his world.
So I wouldn't say that they were just like us, or at least the vast majority of us.
Well yes, I didn't think to mention that as it was pretty common amongst the entire upper and most of the middle class of America at the time to own slaves.
So that wasn't as unique/distinguishing as the other points I mentioned. Supposedly over half of slave owners around the time of the civil War owned only one slave. So it was a pretty common " asset" if I may speak so plainly.
Owning thousand of acres of land, being part of political Dynasty, owning entire ships and shipping companies, owning entire newspaper and print shops that printed an entire colony's worth of paper materials, these were all the enterprises of the founding fathers. Sadly, owning slaves were one thing that that elite class actually had in common with the middle class.
I always love the little footnotes of history where there’s some specific date and the rationale for why that date was picked is “everyone had to go home for the harvest.”
I feel like the founders didn't realize how big america would get
a single nation state empire is basically impossible to run democratically due to perverse incentives
EU seems to have the best model where federal budgets are primarily designed to go to the state that generated that budget and not as a handout to laggards whose only contribution is shitty politicians. Albeit, greece really stress tested and somewhat broke it, so maybe there's just no model that actually works
the year of californistan is fast approaching, or potentially, might be crazy, but maybe mathematicians cook up some mathematically sound form of an incorruptible governance structure
Since I began paying taxes, I have said they need to remove the "Do yiu want to donate $3 to the general election fund?" option, and just make it mandatory. Everybody pays their $3, and that is split evenly amoung candidates. Thats all the funding you get, use it wisely.
When you're filling your taxes there IS a question of you want to donate 3 dollars to the presidential election fund. It only applies to the president currently seated, i believe.
I've never checked it so i never did a deep dive into it.
With most things I’ve learned from the Trump administration, it’s not whether something is legal or not. It’s “who is going to enforce it?”.
Trump has proven that judges refuse to do their jobs as they would to any one of us for the same crimes. Trump has proven the police, FBI, CIA, etc refuse to do their jobs as they would any of us for the same crimes. Trump has proven that Congress will not do their jobs…. Etc.
Dems are better than republicans but it’s not by much. Hopefully this move towards DSA scares some of the establishment into change rather than panic.
Foreign aid in elections is already illegal. And yet its only been used to go after Democrats. The summer of 2000, Al Gore dealt with months of news coverage over foreign donations, worth like half a million dollars, while Trumps in kind aid from Russia is valued in the billions, and not a word. We tried capping election spending amd the SCOTUS struck it down. Multiple times.
There's a deeper issue. Trump was charged and convicted of several felonies. When the largest news network in the country is allowed to keep its broadcasting license after settling for a BILLION dollars over a misinformation campaign, then something is deeply wrong. Half the country is allowed to live in an alternate reality. They're sold culture war nonsense to keep them so angry and fearful of the other that they cant see the gridt right in front of their eyes.
I got curious how that actually works so I looked it up.
First, you must be a major party candidate to receive it. So democrats or republicans. (Or have had received at least 25% of the vote in the previous election.). Second, if you elect to receive the campaign fund grant, you cannot receive any private campaign donations, and your spending is capped at the fund amount.
"In 2008, Republican nominee John McCain accepted an $84.1 million public grant. Barack Obama declined public funding and raised approximately $745.7 million over the election cycle. Obama was the first major-party nominee to reject the general-election grant; McCain was the last major-party candidate to accept one. No major-party nominee has accepted it since."
For 2024, the available general-election grant was $123,595,200.
So, in other words, it seems that today's campaign spending levels, this fund is obsolete and useless.
Which in my opinion just goes to show how broken campaign contribution laws are (Citizens United), as spending is out of control, corporate "voice" leaves less room for democracy and lobbying is far too entrenched.
7 billion a year we hand to Israel. Far more than ANY other country. Its the size of NJ. I get it: politicians need to raise money to stay in power. Israel/AIPAC makes it VERY easy, vs having to be on the phone all day, every day asking for money. In walks AIPAC with a wheelbarrow of cash and tickets to your favorite event. This is why we need, desperately, to overturn Citizens United, and get money out of politics. Our politicans are NOT working for We the People (well, a few are... but the vast majority are in it for the money)
Totally. It was only a year ago in the mayoral debate that Mamdani said he wouldn't visit Israel as his first foreign visit as mayor, and even that was extremely controversial.
Canadian government: "The voters want us to condemn genocide, but if we did that we might have to actually stop arming it, which might be unprofitable. Literally Sophie's Choice."
It's so pathetic to see slopulist comments like this getting so much attention. What are you guys even doing, where do your priorities lie? Why the fuck would mayor of New York talk about Netanyahu than Trump? What the fuck is this?
I mean Mamdani is also, in this very video, announcing he is not doing anything other than criticism. Because he like every other Democrat lacks the power to do anything about it.
Strange how that only ever appears to apply to democrats, but once a fascist wants someone roughed up, the police are basically tripping over themselves for the opportunity to play goon squad...
Exactly. Bibi is a piece of shit, but Mamdani needs to do his job which is to manage NYC. Nothing more, not getting involved in international matters. He needs to stay in his lane and do his job. His grandstanding is getting annoying.
Yeah that guy don't know what he's talking about, a city mayor has very little to do with global politics, but Congress at this very moment could stop sending aid to Israel.
Yes, but also no. Dems are fighting tooth and nail to run pro-netanyahu candidates. Those candidates also pretty much always happen to be the types of candidates that take huge money from the lobbies that fight against public healthcare, fight for more military spending, fight for corporations to have unlimited power and immunity, and so on.
Like yea, lesser of two evils, but failing to call out the secondary evil does a major disservice to the situation we are all in.
Hand waving and saying, well dems are better end of story, everyone can go home, see you in four years, is EXACTLY why we are here now.
GET INVOLVED IN PRIMARIES. If there aren't progressives in your area, think about running or nominate someone to run. Candidates that refuse PAC money and demand accountability and equitable taxation are taking over the party, and the wave might just be too much for the corporate dems to resist.
Especially if you get on board with the reality of the situation, that it isn't so simple as vote blue no matter who. You got centrist dems saying 'vote blue no matter who, unless it's a progressive, then I'm going to do everything to fuck them over' those people need to be removed fuckin yesterday.
Dems are fighting tooth and nail to run people who can beat Republicans. Mamdani seems great but he stands zero chance of winning in a purple district.
Most people do not care about foreign policy at the best of times and that is doubly true when our own country is suffering economic turmoil and fascistic backsliding. This message, no matter its accuracy, isn't gonna help someone like Telarico get into the Senate.
It's too late in the game to still think your parties are meaningfully different. Israel has had bipartisan support for decades. How many times will you be tricked?
Mamdani is a member of the Democratic Party and in charge of a city larger in population than quite a few states, and he's clearly calling Netanyahu a war criminal. There is a party with a substantial faction willing to criticize Israel, and it's the Democrats. As a communist, maybe you don't believe in electoral politics under our current system of government, but you should be capable of recognizing the reality that it's a lot easier to persuade people to vote for Democrats than to pick up a gun and do a revolution.
Calling Netanyahu a war criminal amounts substantially to nothing. At best all it is is reflective of the shifting of the American people's perception of Israel, and at worst it reaffirms the settler-colonial state. He obviously doesn't have the authority to do anything about it, but that's the whole fucking point: you get a friendly face feeding you platitudes and no meaningful change in policy.
Edit: Yes it's easier to vote for the democrats than do anything outside the electoral process, and you can (and maybe should) continue to do so, but at least stop lying to yourself and others by pretending there's a substantive difference between the two parties.
Is it substantively different that we’re attacking fucking Iran? Is it substantively different that we have conservative justices getting by stuffed into the Supreme Court and making abortion illegal? There’s plenty of differences but people like you literally only think in terms of Israel-Palestine lol. It’s so myopic and shallow. Please continue voting for Jill Stein or whatever the fuck you need to do to sniff your own farts and feel above it all
Bruh, progressives have 100% been against Israel for years. Some establishment Dems =/ all Democrats. Even the Dems who support Israel do not support them to the extent of Trump and other Republicans who have 0 problem with the genocide.
Besides Israel, our 2 parties are very, very different. Go both sides somewhere fucking else.
It should be embarrassing to be lied to over and over and still fall for the same thing. The democratic party is *not* a progressive or left leaning party. Israel isn't an exception to the rule, it's just the most egregious example today. You say "some" as if the party broadly hasn't supported Israel. As if even the posterchild for the progressive wing of the party, Mamdani himself doesn't support its existence, and the last one (Sanders) hasn't come out as a full fledged zionist. There's no difference between the two. One will just tell you nice words and platitudes about how their hands are tied.
103 Democrats or half the damn party voted for an amendment to cut off aid to Israel. 1 Republican did. Shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.
The Dem party is lefter than the Republican party by a mile. Harris would have been much better for Gaza than Trump who is openly racist and Islamophobic and doesnt give half a fuck about the death toll and is in Bibi's pocket.
If your standard for opposing Israel is opposing its existence and opposing the two-state solution, you will find very few people who believe Israel shouldnt exist entirely. Not just in America, but globally.
How many Dems support gay marriage, how many Reps? How many Ds support weed legalization, how many Rs? How many Ds support trans people, how many Rs? How many Ds wanted to bomb Iran, how many Rs? How many Ds tried to overthrow the government when they lost an election, how many Rs? How many Ds asked the state of Georgia to give them fake votes to overturn an election result, how many Rs? How many Ds gerrymander black predominant districts to destroy their vote, how many Rs? How many Ds support universal healthcare, how many Rs?
I'm sorry, but running against a narccistic geriatric pedophile conman felon should take basically zero campaigning. The fact that it took more is a damning indictment of the American people.
still the cards you gotta work with. republicans have managed to turn public opinion on a bunch of issues and whip up their base. dems have tons of widely-loved policies at their disposal and can’t seem to find a way to run on them in a way that people will buy
He lied. He is rightfully being called out for doing so, he knew very well he would not be able to arrest him yet he accepted the votes who believed in him to do so.
He never had the power to arrest Netanyahu and he knew it so isn't it outrageous he kept making a promise he was fully aware he couldn't keep and had no intention of carrying out?
I'm not blaming Mamdani for being unable to do something, I'm blaming him for making a stupidly unrealistic promise.
If you promised me you can cure cancer even if you're not a scientist, I wouldn't be mad that you couldn't. I'd be mad at you for making a dumb promise.
He said he would use every legal avenue New York had to deal with Netanyahu. And that's exactly what's happened. The cops won't support the order to do so if he ordered it, because of the legal issues with following said order. He has multiple times since his campaign started, openly stated that he would discussing options with the NYPD to follow ICC orders, but they would not without federal action to do so. Thus, the point of this video and shifting responsibility to the federal government
By the way, most of our federal Congress members, who have the power to order his arrest, will not even call it a genocide. We should start the discussion there.
Obama succeeded in shifting the Overton window left. All we had to do was reward him for the ACA, instead we sat on our thumbs and let the seeds of MAGA take power in the House and Senate. Even after our betrayal of our supposed liberal ideals, we still had a chance to secure the leftward swing, but the American voter just doesn't have it in them to vote for a qualified but unlikable woman. So instead of securing universal healthcare and a solid new national liberal coalition, we lost Roe and our dignity and potentially our democracy itself. Yay!
Until we, the left, learn to vote strategically, we will continue to lose to the smaller but more unified right in national elections. Here on Reddit, that means the progressive types in here always trying to pivot to whining about "establishment dems" as if they're the goddamned enemy. Outside of Reddit where you experience the real voter base, it's the center-left to center dems always trying to pivot to whining about the remote possibility of their hypothetical child competing against a giant black trans woman in fucking hapkido or whatever. How about we liberals let other liberals be their own version of liberal as long as we all agree on the basics like human rights and that Bibi is a piece of shit? You don't like Newsom and Pelosi and Schumer and DWS and blahblahblah? Too fucking bad. Liberal voters voted for them, you worry about your goddamned reps.
What? What part of the reality of the American voter today and back in 2008 are you not getting looking at this fascist dumpster fire? Open your eyes. Making progress on universal healthcare after decades of liberals fighting for power after the Civil Rights Act + Nixon unified racists and a key portion of the business first types (sound familiar?) was ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY moving the Overton window left. If you want to get to progressive policy with this nation where the majority voted for Trump in '24 after all we knew about him, you have to work your ass off to get incremental gains then work even harder to protect them against the inevitable backlash.
Get fucking real. Please. We all want the same things here, and it's so ridiculous that anyone has to beg you guys to support ALL liberals, not just the ones that pass your personal purity tests (that I would argue are often foisted upon you by people that know how to spot a wedge issue and don't care about you past their ability to talk you into spending energy attacking other liberals ... see: Bibi N).
I didn't read the rest of their post because I was laughing too hard at the line you quoted. LEFT???? I'm a well-read communist and I could sit here explaining to them how that's the opposite of what happened, but what's the point?
Yep, they've shown time and again that they will muster the votes to approve a republican agenda.
Case in point, 9 dems voted in favor of ceding the power of the purse to the Executive last spring. They act like they were playing a game of chicken and lost, like they could just get on board to giving executive unlimited power and they wouldn't abuse it, because why would the executive abuse their power???
So either they're politically inept, or politically malicious, which do you think it is?
9 democrats approved but 37 democratic senators opposed, to be clear. You’re misrepresenting the party with a small minority. The democrats have a lot of decent people who oppose the fascist republicans, actually. Critiquing the democrats is a good thing, but at least reach for valid critiques - in this example, criticize Schumer and the yes votes, don’t misrepresent the party as a whole.
So the party leadership votes for the other party that is clearly on the violent fascist path, the rest of the party does basically nothing to call it out and replace leadership with someone who represent constituents, and we're not supposed to blame the party?
The centrist dems are the problem, if you do nothing, and say nothing, you are part of the problem.
Has Democratic leadership called it a genocide?? They dont. If they do they need to stop funding and supplying weapons for a genocide... So they never clearly answer that question.. it's about the intent.. inability is understood...
Yeah, and because they are in the minority, the Democrats in Congress are largely powerless outside of blockading most filibusterable legislation, which they are already doing. Hence why they mostly write angry letters!
Gotcha. To be fair, actively calling Netanyahu a war criminal and calling their actions a genocide is already way better than most democratic congress members.
I'm sorry man, but I've lived through this once already, when establishment dems have power they simply do nothing, and whine about things that 'almost passed' or let them get destroyed with meddling. Then when conservatives get in, they go wrecking ball on everything.
I don't want to go back to getting nothing done when my party controls the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, and competitive portion of the Supreme Court. I want representatives that will fucking fight for the things I need, not what Google, or SISCO, or fucking some lettuce distributor I've never heard of that makes billions per year needs.
It is not an alternative, it is one and the same. Handing establishment dems power does nothing but stall until the next republican president comes around and makes things worse. The alternative is to vote for actual left wing candidates, so it's kind of weird that you didn't even mention it as a possibility.
The leader of which party in Congress said this, reusing a quote by famous American segregationist politician George Wallace: "Israel today, Israel tomorrow, israel forever"
The leader of which party in Congress said this, "My job is to keep the left pro-Israel"
Which party does the Governor of California, who said this "I revere Israel," belong to?
The preferred Senate candidate of the aforementioned congressional leaders, who said "Israel comes to me in my dreams, belongs to which party?
This isnt a question of Democrats vs Republicans (who of course also firmly support Israel). Pro-Israel politicians must be actively, affirmatively removed and that requires specifically targeting and criticizing members of the Democratic party.
Well that's exactly why Mamdani said he'd consult the law and only do what is legal in his position. Unlike some parts of our government, he didn't decide to invent new legislation to just let him do whatever he wants.
On what basis would it be tossed out of court? Does being a head of state make you immune from prosecution for your crimes? Shit, someone better tell them they need to release Nicolas Maduro...
On what basis would it be tossed out of court? Does being a head of state make you immune from prosecution for your crimes?
It does, actually, and there's a pretty strong argument that our arrest of Maduro is illegal under international law. Indeed, his attorneys are making that argument.
Shit, someone better tell them they need to release Nicolas Maduro...
It turns out that even if you do violate International law, that only matters if somebody else is willing to enforce that law on you. Guess what? The United States isn't willing to enforce international law against Benjamin Netanyahu. Even if Mamdani was able to persuade some New York City police officers to attempt to arrest him, and even if they successfully arrested him against the will of him and his security detail, do you really think the New York City Police Department is going to literally fight the federal government to prevent them from taking custody of Netanyahu and immediately releasing him? Because that's what it would ultimately come down to. Mamdani would only be able to hold on to Netanyahu if he were capable of winning a literal gunfight.
And it's ridiculous that he made a promise he knew as mayor he couldn't keep. Of course a city mayor can't have a foreign leader arrested for ICC crimes. He knew that was a dumb promise and he made it anyway. Just to get some easy votes from naive voters. It was a slimy thing to do and voters should feel insulted for that.
in the video, he is explaining to the people he governs what is going on with the idea of arresting a war criminal if he comes into the city. he mentioned this during his campaign and consulted with lawyers about doing it. he learned it would not be feasible.
he is telling people this, to be transparent. so that people don’t start saying “HEY WHAT HAPPENED TO ARRESTING NETANYAHU”
it’s called being transparent.
it’s wild the type of shit people are looking for to criticise someone who has done more for his city in 3 months than the last 3 administrations did in their entire terms combined.
It was obvious to anyone that arresting the leader of a foreign nation was not going to happen legally. He would need at minimum some kind of pardon power for any actor involved in the affair. What's funny is that he criticized Trump for arresting Maduro for similar reasons, specifically calling him the leader of a sovereign foreign nation.
The fact that you are fawning over Mamdani for making the most obvious observation is pretty laughable to me. Maybe he will give a PSA that water is wet and win more points too.
He has done something, though: he went through all the legal research to understand what he could do and upon realizing he couldn't do anything, he explained what they intended to do, described a call to action, and invited responsible parties who could do something to do something (not that they will.) He isn't bowing to Netanyahu like other Dems do, he's not hyperbolizing. If he could do something, he would be doing it.
yup, it's telling we are seeing ppl basically going after Mamdani for this video and trying to act like the DNC can't do anything, libs just can't help but defend the DNC no matter what + the usual of ppl being racists/islamophobic against Zohran and "omg socialism is evil!" bs -_-
He lacks power not due to his political affiliation but because arresting an international criminal is outside of his purview as Mayor. He can't just Dog the Bounty Hunter Bibi, even if he was a Republican. Congress, though, can make the arrest on behalf of the US government, and he's calling upon them to do it.
He did it significantly differently though, he said he can't legally, which is true, and then he threw the Federal Government under the bus, inviting their wraith, and then straight up said, in no uncertain words, that BB isn't welcome in NY.
Sorry, you're not going to get a Mayo who is going outwardly break laws....yet, and hopefully ever, but this still goes way farther than establishment dems.
I would expect him to do exactly what he's doing in the video! I'm not criticizing him, I'm just saying it is a little absurd to go after "establishment Democrats" for doing nothing but writing angry letters in response to a video where Mamdani, the not Establishment Democrat, is announcing he has no power but to criticize Netanyahu, which he does in the video.
We can absolutely criticize the fact that on this list the 3 last Democratic Party nominees for president are in the top 4, the two current Democratic Party minority leaders in Congress are in the top 12, and 15 of the top 20 recipients of money from the pro-Israel lobby are Democrats.
We should unequivocally go after these people. They should be booed out of restaurants and harassed (and primaried) at every single opportunity. Mamdani doesn't go after Israel and Netanyahu because he has no federal power to. The establishment Democrats don't because they are paid not to, and the responses to their "inaction" by us should be completely different.
I mean it’s a little naive to believe there isn’t money changing hands from Israel….the ones receiving it who continue to enable or avoid legislation that would oppose Israel…they could definitely do things.
but when do you ever see establishment democrats take a strong stance against Israel's genocide? Joe Biden just kept writing Israel a blank check even as he meekly criticized Netanyahu.
The Republicans control Congress, but one might still argue that a Democrat who votes against arming genocide and loses isn't quite the same as one who votes for and wins
People are fawning over Mamdani's strongly worded letter he reads aloud with a frowny face. It's pathetic. Definitely cult of personality vibes over what is definitionally virtue signaling.
He made a campaign promise he KNEW he couldn't keep. His vow to arrest Netanyahu was always a joke of a campaign issue and it was just a blatant attempt to get more votes from incredibly naive constituents.
I just think that's something to keep in mind during his reelection bid. Is he going to make more unrealistic promises just to get a few more voters, a few years from now? Just because I like a candidate's opinions doesn't mean they get to lie to me.
Yeah the ones who need cover for elections since Israel is so unpopular in their districts. Believe me if it ever came down to a vote that they thought they could win there would be just enough dissenters to make sure it didn't pass. You can take that to the bank.
"yeah the ones who are representing the views of their constituents"
...yeah? That makes sense right?
It seems that as the American public is turning against Israel Democrat politicians are taking notice and adapting. Keep in mind prior to 10/7 supporting Israel was a popular position.
However Republicans have much more in common with Israel and thus they support it. They love fascism, using ethnic supremacy to justify violence, and corruption. Its President Trump that removed all restrictions on weapons sales to Israel and then bombed Iran for them. Netanyahu says Trump is Israels best friend ever.
Meanwhile Democrats are condemning the war in Iran, blocking multiple defense bills and budgets, as well as being increasingly critical of Israel. Someone like Mamdani could not exist in the Republican party, look at what happened to Massie.
So like I said, there is still a lot of work to be done but the Democrats are headed on the right path, especially compared to the Republicans.
He said he would look into it. IE the same thing anyone with access to Google could do.
The US has rejected membership in the ICC. Period. End of sentence. No matter how he feels about I/P (which I happen to agree with), he can't do shit even if he wanted to.
This is purely a performative thing he's doing here for the DSA. Again, I generally like him, but anyone who thought there was the possibility of NYC actually arresting Bibi has the geopolitical understanding of a high school student.
IMO it's silly that he's even having to entertain this to begin with.
It is performative, but I believe it isn't silly. It's putting the issue of Palestine genocide and bibi's war crimes on blast, and signalling to the electorate that this issue should be front of mind to every election going forward. He is one the most, if not the most, popular politician right now, and he is using his platform to push this issue and possibly favourably affect the polls.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a "silly" issue to have any strong position on. But actually arresting Netanyahu on US soil, let alone getting him extradited to The Hague? I mean, everyone has to know that it ain't happening, even in the most influential city in the Americas.
Like I said, I don't blame him. Like any politician, he has a base to adhere (or at least give lip-service) to. And I'd be able to take the dominant faction of the DSA a lot more seriously if they weren't so ardent on Palestine having a right to exist as opposed to Ukraine, where all of a sudden they go in some really weird directions leading to Russian colonization being perfectly a-ok.
Even doing nothing is performative so what the fuck are you on about?
This why reddit and social media is fucking detestable these days.
You are part of the problem. With our own eyes we see someone at least fucking trying. Hes wells spoken and thoughtful and at the end of they doing what he feels is right. Its not without danger because he knows how much more heat this puts on him and now anything they can fund on him any miss step is going to bebuaed to bury him and people are going to oblige that and will absolutely try to eat him.
People cant wait.
But what is just as toxic is people who dont fuckingndo anything but piss and moan. And take the social media amd call it a day. They let perfect be the enemy's of good. They let the enemy win by default.
New York - being the headquarters of the UN had and will have its fair share of controversial world leaders coming in, several of which have been wanted.
The UN diplomatic protocol exists specifically to prevent this.
The job of the NY mayor is to do exactly nothing! This was known all along.
He is just throwing red meat to his base. He is a sharp politician so he is not above performance.
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And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
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“The imaginary family in my head say it’s a bad idea to arrest him even though they believe what he’s doing is wrong. Can’t we just BLAST him in a hearing, wag our finger, and do nothing?”
Also establishment democrats: these dipshit online liberals don’t vote for us anyway, might as well try to get what votes we can in middle America. Huh? They are pro Israel? Guess we are too…
Want to make change? Move to a place where your vote actually matters.
To be fair, this is essentially an angry letter. Yes, he doesn't have legal power and authority to do otherwise, but that's what this is. Let's not get too caught up congratulating the Dems we like for their angry letters and calling out the ones we don't for theirs.
Yes, it's a nice acknowledgement of the bloke being a heinous villain. Yes most Dems haven't even done that. But end of the day this is just a condemnation and that's not a game changer. Mamdani has done other impressive things which is lovely, but just because he has had other genuine wins doesn't make this one too. This is nice, not breathtaking. This is propaganda, not praxis.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
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I really wanted to down vote you because the GOP is running the show and are fucking up by the numbers, but your point is valid. Even in Washington State our senators and representatives in US congress voted to continue supporting Israel. Almost all of Congress and the entire administration are war criminals and are complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people.
Netanyahu sucks and is Israel's Trump and has to go, has single handedly stopped the two state solution in the 90s riling up people to assasinate Rabin.
However, in no way should we stop supporting the only democracy in the Middle East. Don't give Russia what they want and have wanted since 1953.
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You literally have no understanding of history. Russia has backed countries in the Middle East against Israel at the same time it tries to manipulate Israel with hard right divisive people just like everywhere. The goal is balkanization and they need apartheids like East/West Germany, South Africa, Iran Crisis of 1946, the handful of times they split Poland into partitions and on and on.
The end goal though is ending democracy in Israel and pushing out the West.
The current genocide is in Ukraine by neo imperial Russia like always then they try to get other fronts to distract. Russia plays the Israel vs Palestine card all the time. End Russia on that and you end the conflict, never before.
You are so lost in Kremlin propaganda is freaking sad.
you keep spouting this "only democracy" line as if it means anything, it's not just Netenyahu who is a genocidal evil person in that country, have you seen what his opposition is saying in terms of how he isn't going as hard as he should and what their plans are? hint: they are just as bad if not worse.
However, in no way should we stop supporting the only democracy in the Middle East. Don't give Russia what they want and have wanted since 1953.
wtf does Russia have to do with any of this?
btw Russia supports Israel just like the US, what Russia would want is exactly what you are doing: unconditionally support of Israel hiding behind "duh it's a democracy" hasbara. News flash, Russia supports Israel just like the US, Russian is the 3rd most common language in Israel for a reason, many Russian oligarchs are dual-citizens guess where? Israel.
also no, the US should stop supporting a country doing a genocide and ethnic cleansing while being a decades long apartheid state, we don't live in w.e fantasy land you are.
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u/NtheLegend 18h ago
Establishment Democrats: "Can't we kinda half-condemn Netanyahu? Send him a letter or slap him on the wrist? We still need his checks for re-election."