r/theunforgiven Jun 09 '24

Meta Subreddit resources and FAQ

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Welcome to r/theunforgiven!

This is a community where we share and discuss topics related to the Dark Angels, their successor chapters, and the fallen. If you want to share or discuss a topic about Space Marines or Warhammer 40k in general, without particular connection to the Unforgiven, then r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k would likely be a better fit.

Before posting

Please have a quick look at our rules before submitting a post or comment. You can find them in the sidebar or the landing page of our wiki (linked below). We'd also appreciate it if you did a quick search in the subreddit before submitting a post, in case your question was already asked and answered or the topic discussed recently.

Quick links

Here's a list of shortcuts to some of our most useful resources. Explore them at your leisure.

The community wiki

  • Landing page (subreddit rules and administrative information)
  • Lore page (narrative information on history, culture, and chapter organization)
  • Hobby page (information on building and painting)
  • Miniatures page (information on the model range and collectibles)
  • Gameplay page (resources on competitive play and FAQs/Erratas)

Informational PDFs (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

Lore analyses (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

  • MMH#1 - What is the Inner Circle, and who is in it?
  • MMH#2 - What separates a Master from a Grand Master or Supreme Grand Master?
  • MMH#3 - What is the relationship between the 'Captain' rank and the 'Company Master' title?

Frequently Asked Questions

-What would happen if X occurred in the 40k universe?

Impossible to answer, unless X has already occurred. We can predict the future and discuss hypotheticals in our own universe because it is governed by natural laws. If a stone is dropped, it will fall (assuming nothing prevents it from doing so).

The 40k universe is fictional, and is governed entirely by it’s authors. If a stone is dropped, it will behave exactly as the author desires it to behave. No justification or explanation is needed. We only know what the author desires if they have made it happen already. We thus know for example that Lion beat Angron in their fight on Wyrmwood, but we don’t know who would win if they battled again in the future.

-Can I/am I allowed to do Y?

You can/are allowed to do anything you want with models you own, within the confines of your local laws. Where other people are involved (eg playing a game), you will need the agreement of those people. As long as everyone involved consents, you can do whatever you want (including changing game rules, playing with proxies, etc). Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-What base size should I use for model Z?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating base size. Some competitive tournaments and events enforce their own rules, search for those if you need guidance. In general, casual players seem to agree that you should use the latest base size the model is/was sold with, or the base size the model was supplied with when you bought it. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How strictly should models match their datasheet/equipment?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating how closely models must represent their datasheet. The answer may vary between each casual group and competitive tournament/event. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How should I paint fliers/Dreadnoughts/Terminator-characters etc?

However you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who gets to wear robes/winged helmets/etc?

Whoever you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who’s in the Ravenwing/Deathwing/Inner Circle?

See the Chapter Organization section of Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above), or the relevant pages on Lexicanum.

-Could you identify a model for me?

See the Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (linked above). If the model you're trying to identify isn't in there, then it isn't an official Dark Angels model. If so, ask elsewhere, eg in r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k, or search through the miniatures portal on Lexicanum.


r/theunforgiven 9h ago

Showcase Risen Judiciar Kitbash

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572 Upvotes

How’s it going boys?

Here’s my Risen Judiciar Kitbash I did a couple months back, thought I’d show the full 360!

If you wanna see the full kitbash and painting process then check out my YouTube channel @HooHammer!

Lmk what you think, cheers!


r/theunforgiven 19h ago

Showcase Dark Angel Successor Calgar conversion. Love all tbe new Term characters GW have been releasing lately

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r/theunforgiven 7h ago

Showcase Disciples of Caliban - Terminator 5/5

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102 Upvotes

And finally the squad is done! I magnetized the arm on this one so I can someday get him a plasma cannon.

Let me know any C&C.


r/theunforgiven 13h ago

Showcase Armageddon Vangaurd Veteran Squad

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Here’s my finished Vanguard Vet squad. As I said before, I don’t know what I’ll ever actually use them. I’m still a bit of a curmudgeon when it comes to power-armored Deathwing, but I tried my best to make them look like I think they should.


r/theunforgiven 7h ago

Painting What looks better the flashy green or the one on "arms"?

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45 Upvotes

Hello,

I need some advice please.

I don't know if i keep the flashy green or if I lower it like on the arms?

Any advise?

Thank you!


r/theunforgiven 7h ago

Painting WIP Dawn of War/Dark Angels

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r/theunforgiven 19h ago

Painting Two ejection ports on bolter?

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412 Upvotes

Hi everyone

So right now I'm working on this nice bolter and I immediately noticed that it had two ejection ports for the sleeves on both sides. Never noticed that before. Could anyone explain how is it even possible? 🤔

UPD: Thanks everyone for responding, it was very interesting to read all your thoughts 🙂‍↕️


r/theunforgiven 6h ago

Gameplay 3x10 Bike Test

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Seeing that Ravenwing Command Squad drops in point and are moved to being support i feel that Company of Hunters are insane powerful.

2x Chaplain, RWCmd, 6 Black Knights

1xSamael, RWCmd, 6 Black Knight

At rapid fire, thats almost 90 plasma shot (most at devW) and over 90 attack (most with +1 to wound) and movement to deliver it. Currently trying it out against Sisters.


r/theunforgiven 10h ago

Painting Tips or Criticisms for Bladeguard Veterans?

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54 Upvotes

just finished painting my blade guard veterans. I wanna know if there’s anything I can do to make them better because I want them to look good. unless they already look good.

Also, how do I take better pictures so it doesn’t look like a child painted my minis?


r/theunforgiven 14h ago

Gameplay The Lion Rules Update

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118 Upvotes

Brothers!
What are we thinking about the update to The Lion’s forest walk ability?

Doesn’t seem right that you pick it in your command phase and have to wait until your opponents command phase to pick him up.
Also contradicts itself by explicitly saying that you can make an ingress move turn one.

Can he deep strike turn 1 if you start the game in reserves now ? What are your thoughts??

With his new points cut I definitely want to be running him but I feel like I don’t understand when I’d use his uppy downy now with these changes.


r/theunforgiven 8h ago

Showcase 4th company ancient of the disciples of dread

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r/theunforgiven 7h ago

Showcase Working on a risen deathwing companion captain the lion found and brought back to the fold

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23 Upvotes

r/theunforgiven 2h ago

Showcase bladeguard veteran

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hi :), finally completed my first bladeguard veteran, hope yall like it, if you have any tips/feedback feel free to share them. i made other posts during my wip of this model and put them under the "painting" flair. now that is finished i tought to post him under the "showcase" (?) im not a big reddit user i hope this is how flairs work haha.

edit: damn i hate socials compressing my photos, i put a lot of work with my camera for them to look sharp then when i post they are so damn grainy haha :/


r/theunforgiven 3h ago

Showcase First DA I've Painted - Azrael

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10 Upvotes

r/theunforgiven 13h ago

News/Rumors So possible new ravenwing HQ Models on the way?

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44 Upvotes

Looks like Command Squad will stay and not go to legends and it also went from leader to support interesting.


r/theunforgiven 28m ago

Showcase Ebony and Ivory

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r/theunforgiven 6h ago

Building Custom Chapter Master WiP

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Need to go back and clean up some flash I missed during assembly, but I took a spare BGV body and combined some spare Sternguard, ICC, and Intercessor bits (plus a spare DW Shoulder) and made my own Azrael proxy to be more authentic to my chapter


r/theunforgiven 12h ago

Showcase Chonky bois reporting for duty!

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27 Upvotes

Favorite infantry outside of Termies <3


r/theunforgiven 10h ago

Showcase Hellblaster Marine

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18 Upvotes

Hey! I just started my Dark Angel this is my 4th attempt for my Hellblaster and I still I'll stick with that kind of "Grimdark" style. This is my first Space Marine army I usually paint guard so I'm looking for some feeback on things to improve ( I suck at bases I'll probably redo them at some point)


r/theunforgiven 5h ago

Showcase First DA done!

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Finally got the time to go and paint my Dark Angels! Started with some intercessors, next I’ll probably do a dreadnought as a treat/break from doing many small units.


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Lore How large is the Rock actually?

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Looking at this official artwork of the Rock it has to be at least 70km in height alone, looking at the cruisers. If thats the case it has to be absurdly large, about the same size as the imperial palace but in Space.


r/theunforgiven 20h ago

Showcase Disciples of Caliban - Terminator 4/5

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92 Upvotes

Next one done! Did a light kitbashing to later build a cyclone missile launcher with bits I have lying around, but that will be a project for the future...

I am realizing I'm awful at taking photos at minis, honestly I think my models look better in person 😅

Let me know what you think!


r/theunforgiven 1h ago

Showcase Adding some plasma to my terminators

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r/theunforgiven 18h ago

Misc. Tin foil hat time - RW Refresh

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Seems to me that RW units and Company of Hunters had pretty big buffs (at a time where that combo is already pretty strong).

If I were a conspiracy theorist, id argue GW are buffing RW units to clear out stock in time for a refresh soon.

Maybe sooner than expected.

/EndCopium