This is a sub for the technical side of "Soundsystem Culture" - big, loud speaker boxes, often hand-built, in the dub-reggae tradition. Stuff that looks like this. Or this.
Well I did it again. Wife was out so I played a house track ar insane spl levels. Then I turned the knob a bit more and now the bass was so loud I could hardly see straight. I then played some Channel One playlist from Spotify and closed my eyes as the proverbial spike entered my vain. Things werent quite the same.
I do this almost daily. I am a bass addict. Not just jamo 150 watt bass but several thousands of watt bass. Big fucking pro driver 18 or 21” bass. I promised my wife one, just one”21” B&C 21DS115 and I came home with two.
Im also not picky. I play anything with a huge bass. Its the best addiction ever. I cannot imagine life without my subwoofers or my wife. I want to be buried with both when the good lord calls the time.
So I've played around with high end audio in the past and ran a few things here and there. I love building things with my own hands and seeing the reactions they get. So this is the beginning of a new hobby.
I am looking at building two subs and cursory research pointed me at the Marty Cube cabinet and one of two drivers and I'm kind of stuck between them. They are:
Eminence Sigma PRO 18-A2
or
FaitalPRO 18HP1060
I don't have a crazy budget, but I think these fit the bill for the kind of output I want/need. I know the FaitalPRO will require a much more powerful amp (looking at a Yamaha P10) whereas I can get away with less amp with the Eminence but have less output.
I am hoping to meet/exceed the pair QSC KS118 I used at a past event.
I would love feedback as someone new coming into the DIY sound space.
Hey all. I am considering grabbing one of the analog limiters from my studio and putting it in my live rack. I had a gig last weekend, and every DJ swapped to a different controller and the peak output level was changing every hour. It would be ideal if I had an 8 channel DSP and could limit the signal level I'm feeding to my amps that way, but I don't have that cash at the moment. I do have an Elysia Xpressor compressor/limiter in my home studio that I could use to limit the incoming signal so that I'm not ever clipping my amps. Is there any reason not to do this? Atleast until I can get a DSP to set the signal levels with.
ive been big into my loud music for years now but just recently wanting to do some research into building my own sound system I was wondering if there are any good youtube channels i should follow, forums i should look into, books to read, and any other advice you guys would give to someone with little to no experience. I love to learn as much as i can before trying to tackle a big project so any pointers would be amazing
Thank you to anyone who can send me in the right direction :)
We have been running a setup of 2 Gsub-like models, loaded with 2*eighteensound 18lw2600 per cab. Running an admark ad42 one channel (4R) per subwoofer.
The admark specs say 7500W/4R
The eighteensound woofers want to take at least 3000W per woofer.
We've been running this setup at 41db gain on the admark, full open, for over 2 years. No problems at all.
Last weekend, we ran the same setup, with an extra sub, and an extra ad42 (using only ch1).
We blew at least 4 out of 6 of our subwoofers (smoke coming out of the cabinets) and I can't figure out what we did wrong?
The amps were running smooth, and the bass never sounded distorted or at max capacity. Untill they just started smoking out of nowhere...
Any ideas what I might have done wrong?
Edit: admark specs say 1/4th max power = 170V/23A, I think we were playing at maximum at 1/2 max power
My old school is going to buy a new PA System for use in multiple locations.
We are going to do a PA shootout, but we need some guidance, which speakers could be an option. We are also thinking about building something ourselves. Furthermore, we have access to tools, is it possible to build something with our needed specs, except for the Powered step of course, with that budget. And would it sound better than the option of buying something new?
Minimum specs:
2 tops no subs (already existing)
powered
good sound quality
some rigging options other than a speaker pole
durable
low noise
budget 3000-4000€
12 or 10 inch
We were really happy with KS-audio CPD 10 / CPD 12, but these are way out of budget.
The QSC tops we rented did not convince us sound quality wise.
We are now mostly looking at RCF 912 / 932 A / nx 912-A and the H&K Linear 5 lineup.
Which other speakers would come to your mind, also looking at the used marked.
We were for example looking at some used powered Kling&Freitag Speakers.
Each waveguide has two differently shaped entry holes for the woofer (one is more oblong, and one is shorter and more rectangular). When gluing up the entrance holes for the woofers on the solanas, I combined the pieces such that the same sized holes ended up on each waveguide— see the pictures, including the reference picture which shows how the correct sized entry holes should be on the waveguide. What am I wondering is, how fucked are they soundwise… is it worth cutting my losses and continuing because they won’t be too affected soundwise, or starting over completely? Obviously, I would prefer the first option.
4ohm speakers play super quiet and amp makes a pop before audio stops, if one channel is disconnected then it makes no sound but both channels measure input correctly
I need some help figuring out the sound system set up for a small music fest in the woods. There will be approximately 40 people so the volume won’t need to be crazy, but enough for good sound quality. Will be open air and a few friends are playing DJ sets. I’m unsure how many speakers and what sort of size will be needed for a nice sound without being overkill.
There’s no power source in the wood so need to know a maximum wattage the equipment will need so I can hire a generator. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Ciao a tutti, sto completando il mio soundsystem ma sono davanti ad un dilemma. Sto cercando qualche progetto cabinet per medi e alti, magari caricati a tromba. Mi sapete indicare qualcosa? Andranno messi sopra 4 mhb4818 e 4 cubokick.
hey all, just shooting a message on here to see if anyone knows of a website that has pre loaded models of speaker cabinets that you can stack and arrange as im tryna figure out the layout of my system once i upgrade to 8 hog scoops, dont want to have to draw it up on sketchup or something like that, thanks
Hi guys, my friends and I are celebrating our birthdays in a few weeks and wanted to throw a little techno party in the basement of one of our houses. We don’t want to particularly break the bank but we’re expecting 50 or so people to show up. We probably won’t be DJing live (just playing some of our favorite sets on soundcloud). Any recommendations for a setup that would be powerful enough to feel “club-like” without dropping too much $? I’ve browsed around this subreddit a bunch but some of the technical stuff is going over my head-just want to see what y’all thought to get people dancing and feeling the bass!
Hi all.
I have 2 mid tops: EV eliminators at about 350w each, running off a w audio xtr1500
I have a USB with 2 FTR18-4080FD, running off a nx6000 amp.
I was wondering what kW of generator would be needed for something like this. Would be looking to buy on facebook if not too expensive, otherwise hire. Please let me know how big is big enough !
Hi! Recently I bought 4 B&C 10NDL64 and wanna use them for mid/high with some compression driver. Any ideas where to find a plan for en enclosure this size? Can't find anything online
EDIT: somehow the pictures get deleted. I have posted them again in comments if they get shoved again.
And a little test of the Inuke 6000 output, & its consequences.
Bass brothers: first drool and admire that 1/3 smoothed and unsmoothed measurement of my Skram configured with all 3 ports closed. I thought the full open config is preferable but I thought: why not test the 4th option Josh Ricci designed - the 3 ports closed config?
I have to say: for anything other than Techno music this is another planet level of infra, bass feelings. Even without that: can you have a look how flat this Skram is producing? No peq used at all. Only an all pass to fix some Xo plus mains troubels but thats it. The purple is the averaged measurement of 3. The green one is the constant RTA. This is with xo on 115hz/lr8 slope. Without it runs to 150hz.
These Skrams have to be the most natural highest quality subwoofers ive ever had. Disclosure: because I have two Skrams for home use, I have now decided to use only one for a designated config. So 1 Skram is 3 ports closed on the right channel of my Behringer inuke 6000 dsp, on Minidsp preset 1. Skram 2 is a full open config, on the left channel of my 6000 inuke on mindsp preset 2.
I also decided to hook up my multimeter to one sub and put the input to about 80%. I measured 92 volts from the Inuke. On my B&C 21DS115-8 that is 1058 watts baby! That also means this 6000 produces way over 2000 watts on 4ohm. I willl do some more measurements with my oscilloscope later but this confirms that while still not near the advertised 2x1800 watts @ 8 ohm, this Behringer is best bang for the watt buck no question. You find these amps for 300 bucks on ebay, and I havent put it flat out as the port blockers decided to explode out of the Skram since I only fitted them with tape. :)
So, fellow Skram owners: do yourself a favor and have a test with this 3 port config. It will blow your mind how clean this sounds, even it it eats a bit of top SPL (Ricci reckoned they have a max of 125dB in this config).
Last pick is the inside of this inuke 6000dsp. Its 11 years old and while I didnt take out the pcb, i managed to clean it up quite well. Its a cheapo, I actually got this amp for free but its my buddy. And it produces the goods. 92 volts in a simple test guys!
I hope to post some more elaborate measurements of all configs together but sofar I havent found many 3 port closed Skram measurements on internet
First Test of a larger config with our new subs out in the wild
Subs are self designed 18 Inch scoops loaded with B&C 18TBX100, running 35-90Hz
Currently got 6 and planning to expand to 8 or more
Kicks are Selenium HB1505C1 Double 15s loaded with B&C 15TBX100, running 90-140Hz
Tops are Res 2 Clones from China, single amped with a passive crossover and surprisingly well-sounding and powerful. They didn't even struggle to keep up with the rest running at about 300 watts each
Powered by two Labgruppen FP10000Q clones (sinbosen) and a no name four channel amp for the tops, actively crossed over using t.racks DSP 206 on a 7kW genni without any problems until the cops came and sent us home
Hello fellow soundsystem nerds, first time post here. I recently acquired 4 txd252s; now after doing some testing i realized that one of the passive crossovers failed on me and i was thinking about how i should rewire everything to just bypass the internal crossover. Before getting them i thought about biamping them but i want to be able to have a link function as well. Every driver is 8ohm and preferably i want to run a 4 ohm minimum on each amp channel. What do you guys think would be the best way to approach this? Wire the two 15” drivers in parallel then make the link in series to obtain a total of 8 ohm per pair of speakers? Or triamp them to and just wire parallel in between and have each section of drivers on their own amp? Obviously will just wire the HF horn in parallel in between each speaker. What are your thoughts? Thank you!
so i have a sub that has a passive crossover output for the tops, at 160hz.
my question is, the sub is 4ohm and the top 8ohm, if i connect the amplifier out into the sub, and the the crossover out from the sub to the top, how will the amplifier see the impedance? will it be something like 4ohm@ <160hz and 8ohm@>160hz?
my amplifier is min 4ohm, i want to see if i can have 2 channels L and R with this setup, so sub and top per channel
Hi there sound system community-
I’m wondering if there are any smaller (private party of 50ish people) sound systems for hire in the Innsbruck, Munich, or Zurich areas (and willing to travel a few hours). Want the system to be a custom stack and bangin.
Bonus points if the owner is a bass/house/techno dj available for hire as well.
I have 8 18” 6259 subs and want to build some dual 18 cabinets if anyone has any design or experience with these woofers input would be greatly appreciated