r/mtgrules 23h ago

Do damage triggers fizzle if the damaged player dies?

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Basically, I had Edric, Spymaster of trest (Whenever a creature deals combat damage to one of your opponents, its controller may draw a card) on the battlefield. One player attacked another, killing them and supposedly triggering my ability, right?

Well, according to the dead player, since they're no longer in the game, my ability has nothing to trigger off of.

Is this true?


r/mtgrules 11h ago

Norman Osborn // Green Goblin Deck - Madness and Mayhem interaction

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Hey guys and ladies,

I am brewing on my new Norman Osborn // Green Goblin and came across a tricky question that was not answered in other threads in a clear final manner for me, hope someone smarter than me can help :-)

Green Goblin is on the BF, I discard a card with madness (to whatever outlet), there are two options:

1) I discard it into exile and cast it from exile for its madness cost: it resolves (or gets countered) and lands in the graveyard as a new entity of the card and does not count as a discarded card in the graveyard and does not get Mayhem from Green Goblins ability. It counts as a discard for discard triggers/discard costs though. Correct?

2) I discard it into exile and do NOT cast it, it is being put into my graveyard from exile. Here I am not sure if 2a) it counts as discarded in the graveyard and gains Mayhem from Green Goblin or 2b) it does NOT count as discarded in the graveyard as it changed zones and still is a new entity of that card that was NOT discarded this turn. In any case, it counts as a discard for discard triggers/discard costs though. Correct?

In other threads I read complicated rules overlapping here, that’s why I want to make sure I play it correctly.

please feel free to point out other possible mistakes/problems I might have forgotten to think through here.

Thanks a lot in advance!


r/mtgrules 9h ago

Raph & Leo, Sibling Rivals. I cannot find an answer to this question anywhere :/

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If Raph and Leo are blocked and die during the first combat, does the ability still happen??

"Whenever Raph & Leo attack, if it's the first combat phase of the turn, untap one or two target attacking creatures. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase"

I play this in my Kaalia of the Vast deck in an attempt to get another creature onto the battlefield, but when Raph and Leo die during combat, the table is always split on whether this works. Searching online also results in decisive opinions, if anyone could help me find the correct answer to this I would really appreciate it :)


r/mtgrules 4h ago

The Legend of Yangchen

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After the saga transforms, she becomes a creature with no mana cost. If I were to airbend Avatar Yanchen, would she become exiled permanently? Would I be able to pay the 2, and if so would she return as the saga or as the creature?


r/mtgrules 17h ago

Ant Man

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If I have Ant Man Elusive Avenger in play as well as Vesuvan Duplimancy in play. And after the attack but before damage I cast Titan strength. I create a copy of Ant man. 4 damage resolves. Do I make 4 treasures or do I make 8. Ant man says when Ant man deals Damage. and it’s non legendary so both would be on the battle field. I feel like it’s no but I’m hoping it’s 8 :)


r/mtgrules 18h ago

Brainstealer dragon/rise of the dark realms interaction

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If the dragon is in my graveyard when I cast dark realms, does the dragon see the other creatures entering and deal the damage?


r/mtgrules 19h ago

Karn, Silver Golem and Alicia Masters, Skilled Sculptor interaction

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In a scenario where an opponent controls an artifact I own, for example, [[Bucknard's Everfull Purse]]. If I turn it into a creature with [[Karn, Silver Golem]] will [[Alicia Masters, Skilled Sculptor]] return it to the battlefield under my control at the end of my turn before it stops being a creature again?


r/mtgrules 19h ago

Chains of Mephistopheles + Dr Doom + multiple card draw. How many discard triggers?

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Let's say that I have [[Chains of Mephistopheles]] on the field, along [[Doctor Doom, King of Latveria]]. And then I play something like [[Faithless looting]].

Chains of Mephistopheles reads: "If a player would draw a card except the first one they draw in each of their draw steps, that player discards a card instead. If the player discards a card this way, they draw a card". So when I play Faithless Looting I should read it "Discard two cards, then draw two cards, then discard two cards.

I understand that the last two discards are "one or more cards discarded" so Doctor Doom will only trigger once if I discard two lands. But what abour the first two discards? Since they are a replacement effect caused by Chains of Mephistopheles, should I treat them as two different discard triggers since they are replacing a 2 card draw, taking into account that multiple card draw in this game is considered to be different instances of drawing 1 card?

In other words, if I discard two lands with the first "discard 2 cards" caused by Chains of Mephistopheles will I trigger Doctor Doom twice?


r/mtgrules 22h ago

Homeward Path & Tergrid

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Out of curiosity does the Homeward Path counteract Tergrid?

I have a buddy who has an utterly filthy Xyris deck. I'm just curious. I can't seem to find an article or ruling on this.

EDIT: Thanks for the quick responses while I was in the shower.


r/mtgrules 1h ago

Did Jandor's Ring ever get fixed?

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[[Jandor's Ring]]

The card wants you to discard the last card you drew, After drawing, you can just shuffle your hand and lie, discarding another card instead. It's a terrible card, but I still think it's funny.


r/mtgrules 21h ago

Animation of Weeping Angel

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[[Weeping Angel]] states that when an opponent casts a creature spell, it stops being a creature. Very straight forward and in-character.

I now wish to animate Weeping Angel so it never stops being a creature. There are varies cards to do this with but for the sake of the example let's say I'm trying to animate it with [[Ensoul Artifact]].

Ensoul Artifact is an enchantment that can be enchanted onto an artifact. I thereby logically enchant the Weeping Angel. My opponent now casts a creature spell. Does the Weeping Angel at any point stop being a creature? Or is it always a creature because the enchantment dictates it so?

(Bit of side info, I'm trying to create a deck that makes lots and lots and lots of Weeping Angels).

My reason for asking is that I intend to put some enchantments on my Weeping Angel, but almost all enchantments that can create copies of the creature it is enchanted onto, all contain "enchant creature". I am trying to find a way of my Weeping Angel never not being a creature.

My expected outcome is that yes, Weeping Angel never stops being a creature, as the enchantment on it is continuously dictating it so rather than it being a single state change.

The same would be true if I had [[March of the Machines]] on the field expectedly.

Kindly point it out, and why, should it not be the case :)

Update: For anyone wondering as to the janky ass mess that I've made of my deck, here it is.


r/mtgrules 17h ago

Muddle, the Ever-Changing interaction with Coercive Recruiter

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Hello! I am building a [[Muddle, the Ever-Changing]] deck and found someone that says if I use Muddle to copy [[Coercive Recruiter]] then I get 12 steal triggers as the myriad tokens enter. Is that correct?


r/mtgrules 22h ago

Rules confusion on Genji Glove

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[[Genji Glove]] I know it gives double strike and extra combat steps but I'm confused by this line of text.

When equipped creature attacks, if it's the first combat phase, untap it. There is an additional combat phase.

Does this just cancel my combat phase from the first one? As in, if I swing at a player, is that just gone now? Or can I hit one player, go to combat 2 and hit another one?


r/mtgrules 2h ago

What is the judge call if a player breaks a "Can't" ruling and the game has progressed in some sort of way before its brought up?

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Lets say we're playing commander.

Player A has a [[grafdigger's cage]] out on turn 1 and the game has progressed for like 6 turns

Player B then breaks (unknowingly or not) the ruling of Grafdiggers by casting [[reanimate]] on a creature

It is not sure if Player A knows the stax rule has been broken, but a turn after, Player B tries to win the game and Player A then reminds that said game winning creature should not be in play due to the Grafdiggers

What would a judge rule in this situation?


r/mtgrules 46m ago

Am I wrong

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So I was playing [[Zurgo Stormrender]] and I had 6 creature tokens on the battlefield and somebody played destroy each creature and I said okay I ping all of y'all for 6 and they said no because Zurgo leaves at the same time and we argued for like 15-20 minutes before I said whatever this is stupid and I lost the game and my opponents were at 2 and 3 so was I wrong and the triggered ability doesn't deal damage to them or should I have won that game.


r/mtgrules 1h ago

What happens when I make a treasure from Magda, the Hoardmaster while Xorn is there and Mirrormind Crown is equipped on a creature ?

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Xorn, Magda and Mirrormind Crown

They both are replacement effects, so what do I do ? Are layers involved ?

If the Mirror is equipped onto a Dragon token from Magda, my guess is that I make two tapped Dragons while committing a crime.

Also, what happens when Xorn itself is equipped with Mirrormind Crown ?

I have one Xorn equipped with Mirror, crime happens, I now have 1 + 2 Xorns tokens.
I now have 3 Xorns on board, crime happens, I make 4 Xorns ?
I now have 7 Xorns on board, crime happens, I make 8 Xorns ?


r/mtgrules 7h ago

Power Pack + Overload

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Hi,

if I target a spell with Overload with the effect of [[Power Pack]], can I cast the overloaded version for free on upkeep or only the base version?

thx


r/mtgrules 7h ago

Scientist Supreme, Gilded Drake & Liquimetal Torque Query

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If I cast [[gilded drake]] and it enters, putting it's ETB onto the stack, then I make gilded drake into an artifact using [[liquimetal Torque]], can I now copy the ability using [[scientist Supreme of a.i.m.]]?

Relevant rules appear to be 608.2h and 113.7a but me and my playgroup are split on the answer.