r/boxoffice 21h ago

Worldwide r/BoxOffice Long Range Forecast: 'Insidious: Out of the Further' and 'Mutiny'

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Welcome to the newest edition of r/BoxOffice Long Range Forecast.

We're making long range predictions for films, 4 weeks out from their premieres. You will predict the opening weekend, domestic total and worldwide gross of these films. These predictions will be open for 48 hours and the results will be polled to form a consensus and posted the next week.

So let's meet the two films for the week and analyze each pro and con.

Insidious: Out of the Further

The film is written and directed by Jacob Chase. It serves as a sequel to Insidious: The Red Door and is the sixth installment in the Insidious franchise. It stars Amelia Eve, Brandon Perea, Maisie Richardson-Sellers, and Lin Shaye. The film follows Gemma, a young mother raising her daughter who discovers she can travel into The Further. Gemma discovers an ability that changes everything: she doesn't just enter The Further, she can bring what lives there back to the real world.

Mutiny

The film is directed by Jean-François Richet (Inner City, Assault on Precinct 13, Plane) and written by Lindsay Michel and J. P. Davis. It stars Jason Statham, Annabelle Wallis and Jason Wong. After witnessing his billionaire boss’s murder and being framed for the crime, Cole Reed boards a cargo ship on a one-man crusade to avenge his boss’ death only to discover an international conspiracy.

Now that you met this week's new releases, let's look at some pros and cons.

PROS

  • The Insidious franchise has been very profitable, earning $731 million across five films. And it shows no sign of stopping, given that The Red Door became the highes-grossing installment at $189 million worldwide. Even with the lack of the Lamberts, the franchise has been pulling some great numbers with Chapter 3 and The Last Key. And the premise (a woman can bring people out of the Further into the real world) sounds intriguing. And with Evil Dead Burn disappointing and fading quickly, it could seize a starving horror audience looking for a film.

  • Jason Statham has built an audience by this point, so everyone knows what to expect from him. The plot is similar to all his films, but that's pretty much irrelevant: you come to see Jason Statham kick ass and you know what you're getting here. This can be a big attraction for the old male demographic, which has driven Statham's prior films.

CONS

  • The Insidious films have no good will in terms of reception. After the first film, every installment got poor reviews and audience reception has also dwindled. There is also the question of whether franchise fatigue will eventually catch up, given it's the sixth installment in 15 years. And as Evil Dead Burn proved, just because it's the only major horror title on the month doesn't mean audiences will drive big numbers.

  • Statham has a ceiling in terms of his action titles, given that they all look the same. A Working Man got to almost $100 million, but Shelter tapped out at $54 million. Lionsgate has yet to make a big marketing push here, and it could get lost despite the weak August slate.

And here's the past results.

Movie Release Date Distributor Domestic Debut Domestic Total Worldwide Total
Spider-Man: Brand New Day July 31 Sony $236,066,101 $672,305,000 $1,593,737,705
One Night Only August 7 Universal $12,321,428 $38,571,428 $80,800,000
Super Troopers 3 August 7 Searchlight $10,333,333 $24,323,076 $28,338,461
Tony August 7 A24 $4,800,000 $13,672,222 $21,825,000
The End of Oak Street August 14 Warner Bros. $28,166,666 $79,500,000 $168,458,333
Paw Patrol: The Dino Movie August 14 Paramount $24,888,888 $70,166,666 $187,333,333

Next week, we're predicting Coyote vs. Acme and The Dog Stars.

So what are your predictions for these films?


r/boxoffice 21h ago

📠 Industry Analysis What just happened to TheNumbers.com should worry us all

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r/boxoffice 5h ago

India Spider-Man: Brand New Day saw another surge in advance. Now, it may dethrone Endgame opening day (Nett ₹53.6 cr/ $5.5M), which is biggest Hollywood opener in India!

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r/boxoffice 2h ago

India ‘The Odyssey’: Christopher Nolan Scores His Second ₹100 Crore ($10.39M) Film After ‘Oppenheimer’!

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r/boxoffice 20h ago

Domestic $21M Tuesday. Epic. Christopher Nolan’s THE ODYSSEY is on a box office quest unlike anything we’ve seen this summer for an adult-skewing film.

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r/boxoffice 46m ago

📰 Industry News Comcast Officially Confirms That NBCUniversal's Peacock Finally Swings To Its First Streaming Profit Of $189M & Gained 2M New Paid Subscribers To Reach 48M Total In Q2 - “Obsession”, “The Super Mario Galaxy Movie”, & “Michael”'s International Distribution Also Helped Buoy Up Studio Profits To $202M.

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r/boxoffice 15h ago

Domestic Box Office Weekend Forecast: Christopher Nolan's THE ODYSSEY Rides Stellar Audience Reception in Weekday Holds, Could Land $69-81M Sophomore Frame (Forecast - $76.9M, -38%)

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r/boxoffice 2h ago

Spain 🇪🇸 Spain Box Office Wednesday July 22

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r/boxoffice 19h ago

✍️ Original Analysis The Odyssey’ Proves It: Audiences Want Movies Made the Hard Way This year's breakouts like 'Project Hail Mary' and 'Obsession' have were made by filmmakers who sweated. While CG-stuffed franchise disappointments such as 'Supergirl,' 'Moana,' and 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' looked lazy.

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r/boxoffice 3h ago

Japan 'The Samurai and the Prisoner' becomes the first Kiyoshi Kurosawa film to pass 1 billion yen at the Japanese box office

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The translation messed up the title as it's a literal translation of the 黒牢城 title in Japanese. The Samurai and the Prisoner, based on an award-winning mystery novel, is now Kiyoshi Kurosawa's, most known for Cure (1997) and not being related to Akira Kurosawa, best performing film to date.


r/boxoffice 19h ago

📰 Industry News IMAX CEO says 'The Odyssey' box office is 'more extreme' than expected. He also addresses whether the company is for sale.

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r/boxoffice 4h ago

Domestic Tuesday's Box Office by Domestic Total: Odyssey should pass Mando on Wednesday. It's only $14M behind. If it's a bad Wednesday, it'll pass Mando on Thursday for sure. It'll pass Prada 2 this weekend and Obsession next week.

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Really shows how amazing Obsession did, as it'll take almost 1.5 weeks for Odyssey to pass it, which it should comfortably do well before Brand New Day comes out.

I'm rooting for Odyssey but also for Obsession. How many Odyssey days will it take to pass Obsession? 8-11? I'm willing to predict 9 at this point. Anything more would mean Odyssey is slightly slowing down. I think Odyssey will pass Obsession on Saturday.

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For July blockbusters that opened in the same neighborhood as the Odyssey, it's well outperforming Superman ($354M) and still a bit behind Pirates 2: Dead Man's Chest ($423M). Pirates 2 had $169.5M it's first 5 days, ending on a Tuesday, vs. $163.7M for Odyssey.

The Nolan legs are kicking ass. Odyssey made $40.2M on Monday and Tuesday, days 4-5.

Deadpool 2 opened slightly higher than Odyssey at $125.5M but only made $24M it's first 2 weekdays vs. Odyssey's $40M. The Batman opened at $134M but only made $20.5 its first Monday and Tuesday. Odyssey might have the highest First Monday and Tuesday for a film that opened in its OW range. Suicide Squad opened at $133.7M but made $27.4M it's first 2 weekdays. Odyssey might have the highest (Monday + Tuesday):OW ratio ever. If that was an active metric on BO Mojo, I would not be surprised if Odyssey was at the top of that list. Nolan legs.


r/boxoffice 17m ago

📆 Release Date Robert Pattinson A24 Movie 'Primetime' Sets Early Fall Release (Sept. 25)

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r/boxoffice 20h ago

Trailer Clayface | Official Trailer

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r/boxoffice 19h ago

Domestic ‘The Odyssey’ Scores $21M+ Record Tuesday For Christopher Nolan; 2nd U.S. Weekend Could Top ‘Dark Knight’ Pics – Box Office

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Christopher Nolan scored his best Tuesday ever at the domestic B.O. as The Odyssey rang up $21.4M. That bests his previous Tuesday high, which was The Dark Knight ($20.8M, on July 22, 2008). The revised number from Universal ranks as the second best Tuesday YTD behind Toy Story 5‘s $23.69M, and it’s the second best Tuesday ever for Universal after Jurassic World ($24.3M, June 16, 2015).


r/boxoffice 17h ago

Domestic Weekend Preview: THE ODYSSEY ($75M – $85M) Looking at Strong Hold (40-32%) in Sophomore Frame

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r/boxoffice 16h ago

Domestic The Odyssey had a bigger first Tuesday ($21.4M) than The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, and Oppenheimer; now on track for a bigger 2nd weekend than Oppie and TDKR

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$400M domestic locked at this point, $450M+ in play, meaning it could finish above TDKR despite opening below.

You can track the comparison here on Box Office Watch


r/boxoffice 19h ago

📰 Industry News Kevin Feige Says Marvel Has Movies Planned 'All the Way Up to 2042,' Including a Major X-Men Push and Live-Action Miles Morales

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r/boxoffice 28m ago

🍿 IMAX Imax Quarterly Revenues, Profit Rises on Premium Screen Gold Rush --- It helps recent box office hits like Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey’ were shot using Imax's proprietary camera technology and command higher ticket prices for its giant screen theaters.

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r/boxoffice 9h ago

Australia The Odyssey secured the top spot in Australia for its opening week, grossing $18.3M and marking the highest opening week of the year so far. 🐨Moana holds the No. 2 spot in its second week, adding $3.54M and bringing its cumulative box office total to $13.1M.

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Source:

https://numero.co/reports/2026/07/23/the-odyssey-leads-australian-box-office

Toy Story 5 rounds out the top three with $3.47M, lifting its cumulative box office total to $43M


r/boxoffice 18h ago

Domestic TheFlatLannister: "Brand New day had incredible growth over the last two days. It has already sold 200k across MTC3 for previews and 150k for Friday, easily making it the biggest thing I've ever tracked."

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"I want to be cautious here, but how things are going, with normal CBM walkups I am thinking $55M previews as baseline and if it has above average walkups, we may have a new previews record holder by a good amount. OW $250M++ (emphasis on the ++)"

On Doomsday:

"With Doomsday out of the way (sorta, it had an impressive Day 2 considering how capacity constraint it is; It's still pacing relative to BND Friday, Saturday, Sunday somehow, i'm not even sure how that's possible). It will fall behind by a lot today though as there just isn't much seats left."


r/boxoffice 9h ago

New Zealand & Fiji The Odyssey secured the top spot in New Zealand for its opening week, grossing $2.80M and marking the highest opening week of the year so far. 🎟️0Moana holds the No. 2 spot in its second week, adding $882K and bringing its cumulative box office total to $3.07M.

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Source:

https://numero.co/reports/2026/07/23/the-odyssey-takes-top-spot-in-new-zealand

Toy Story 5 rounds out the top three with $601K, lifting its cumulative box office total to $5.63M.


r/boxoffice 9h ago

South Korea SK Wednesday Update: Good day for the movies affected by Hope and Minions last week

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Week-to-Week Drops

Movie Mon-Mon Drop Tue-Tue Drop Wed-Wed Drop Thu-Thu Drop Fri-Fri Drop Sat-Sat Drop Sun-Sun Drop Week-Week Drop
Hope 61%
Minions and Monsters 43%
Moana 62% 51% +1%
The Eyes 63% 47% 5%
Toy Story 5 58% 52% +6%
Hive/Colony 82% 80% +22%

Hope: The movie crossed 2.5 million admits and $19 million, but it is certainly going to miss that 10 million admit breakeven point by a very large margin.

Minions and Monsters: A decent day, as the movie got north of $3 million. The bad news is that its chance of hitting 1 million admits is fading really fast. Being barely above Moana and Toy Story 5 is a bad sign for its legs.

Moana: An excellent Wednesday, as it was one of only three movies on the chart to increase from last week. The movie crossed 800k admits and will rock past $6 million tomorrow.

The Eyes: The movie dropped from last Wednesday and is still on track to miss breakeven.

Toy Story 5: Toy Story 5 had a very nice day, and the recovery should stay on track with an incredibly small drop tomorrow from last Thursday. 2.8 million admits and $20 million are coming this weekend.

Hive/Colony: A nice bounce-back day, as the film was starting to look dead.

Presales

Spider-Man: Brand New Day: Comps increased against Demon Slayer again. When I get home tomorrow, we are tossing Zootopia 2 and Wicked 2 for superhero comps.

Days Before Release Wicked 2 Demon Slayer Zootopia 2 Spider-Man: Brand New Day
T-13 43,470 140,804
T-12 47,115 300,398 16,579 176,265
T-11 50,225 318,475 22,365 204,648
T-10 54,828 344,896 30,501 234,793
T-9 62,472 374,732 40,970 273,023
T-8 66,618 404,689 54,090 307,515
T-7 77,228 433,374 73,487 355,506
T-6 86,011 452,979 94,120
T-5 95,889 488,106 113,186
T-4 108,137 559,252 141,029
T-3 127,976 641,301 182,918
T-2 155,752 770,528 258,224
T-1 192,725 925,368 370,645
Comp 497,822 424,895 1,495,648

Odyssey: Presales increased by 6k, so they are now sitting at 84,615 tickets.


r/boxoffice 20h ago

Domestic $1M CLUB: DISCOUNT TUESDAY 1. THE ODYSSEY ($21M) 2. MOANA ($4M) 3. MINIONS & MONSTERS ($3.3M) 4. TOY STORY 5 ($3M)

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r/boxoffice 1d ago

💰 Film Budget Chris Nolan credits the success of 'Oppenheimer' which allowed him to make 'The Odyssey':

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