Avengers 1 was perfection imo 👌

If Natasha wasn’t written off what do you think her storylines would have been and what would have you wanted to see? I liked Scarlett and Florence together and would have liked to see more of Nat and Yelena together.

The Loki interrogation scene lives in my head rent free

as title says, haven’t consumed anything since probably 2022 (probably last saw the Dr Strange movie) and wanted to recap if i missed anything important regarding Black Widow or Yelena Belova? MCU, comics, video games, etc..

I do know I have to watch the Thunderbolts!

Im curious because in all honesty, I never heard the opinion of a Yelena fan how they feel about this, especially with the new leaks and comments by actors and such, that might hint that they are just stay platonic friends but very close. Please let me know your actual thoughts! I'm asking both comic and mcu fans

The widows peak hair is brilliant, the spider eye print too, the spider symbol, classic black suit belt, the black&blood red color scheme, and her shooting webs from her braces ITS ALL SO TEAAAA. Though I don't like the ponytail version as much cause it removes some of these details.

https://www.deviantart.com/simplyrk/art/Black-Widow-by-SimplyRK-1354842237

I've been a huge fan of Black Widow since I saw her in Iron Man 2, and I want to read more stories with her. Any good comic recommendations?

Granted it’s red no matter what but Ive noticed due to the MCUification of Natasha we’ve gotten more ginger red over the years obviously not their fault it’s not like Scarlett Johansson could dye her hair Blood Red for 10+ years and a wig would’ve been pretty impractical if she had to flip around and such lol

i think it would be cool to see one, and it could be in the same animation style of what if like the 1872 episode, or could be in any type of styles. And the story can be like a lonely, deadly, sexy and gorgeous, flawed and fearless cowgirl in the old west, who takes down criminals, and save locals in small towns and also has a part-time job as a saloon or showgirl at bars and gets paid, because she sings and dances like a diva and badass too, but it would some comedy elements too, but still keeping that Clint Eastwood or once upon time in the old west vibes and story elements too. And the music would be like orchestral and a blend of musical songs too, when Natasha is singing with her backup dancers too. And the costumes, tone and aesthetic would capture and be a love letter to the old westerns of the past. And have a love story with other marvel characters in western attire too.

1. Ballerina

• There are clear inspirations from Black Widow in this movie, especially with the protagonist’s training which is reminiscent of the Red Room.
• Crazy action scenes you would expect from the John Wick franchise, but Eve is portrayed as less experienced and less refined, so she doesn’t fully give off Black Widow in that sense.
• Overall, the movie is mostly just action-packed. I would love to see the same kind of cool and creative assassination scenes for a Black Widow movie, but Ballerina is missing the clever spy elements, intrigue, and mystery-driven plots that I would expect from a Black Widow story.

1. Anna

• The protagonist being forced to work for the KGB, trained into an elite agent, and eventually working with the West in an attempt to get out of that world is very Black Widow-coded.
• Out of all these movies’ protagonists, Anna’s skillset is the most well-rounded and covers many of the areas that Black Widow does. She’s a spy, an assassin, a skilled fighter, and also utilizes seduction.
• Anna’s looks, along with the fact that she operates undercover as a model, reminds me of Yelena.
• The plot is entertaining, but at some point it does get a little silly with the sheer amount of double-crossing and twists.

1. Kill Bill

• The campy, over-the-top action is exactly what you would expect to see in a Black Widow story, and it feels much more aligned with Nat’s skills: The acrobatics, brutality, displays of ninja skills, and crazy theatrics.
• I feel like Beatrix has the same kind of screws loose/unhinged energy and playfulness that Natalia does. I can see a bit of Nat in her.
• The members of the Deadly Viper Squad feel like they could have been ripped straight out of the pages of a comic book, especially a Black Widow comic.
• The revenge-focused plot is absolutely in black widow’s wheelhouse, as is a story centered around motherhood. However, the specifics of Beatrix’s situation aren’t necessarily the kind of circumstances I would imagine Black Widow finding herself in.

1. Salt

• The spider motif is present in this story funnily enough and the protagonist even uses spider venom like Black Widow has in the past.
• Evelyn’s backstory as a KGB agent who was taken as a child, indoctrinated, underwent brutal training which she excelled, and was eventually sent undercover in the west, is very reminiscent of the Black Widows or the Winter Soldier sleeper agents.
• I could totally see this storyline being reimagined with a twist where it ends up being revealed that Nick Fury and black widow actually secretly planned from the start to have her appear as a KGB double agent betraying America, with SHIELD hunting her down so the other sleeper agents would reveal themselves and she can take them out from within. While watching this movie, I couldn’t stop thinking about how easily the CIA could have been replaced with SHIELD, and Evelyn with Natalia in a similar premise.

1. Red Sparrow

• It's a much more grounded film where the protagonist isn’t a high-action heroine at all, so on that front it might not fully feel like a Black Widow movie.
• That said, it tackles themes of state exploitation, bodily autonomy, moral ambiguity, and self-preservation in the world of espionage exactly how I wish a Black Widow movie did, so I'm a bit biased ranking it this high.
• Dominika being a Prima ballerina for the Bolshoi who gets coerced into becoming an SVR honeypot spy is extremely Black Widow-coded.
• The Sparrow School is also clearly reminiscent of the Red Room but with a heavier emphasis on sexpionage.

1. Atomic Blonde

• The story being told through a mission briefing, the hunt for a mole, the exfiltration mission, and the double-crosses in Berlin, with Lorraine revealing she was the mole/double agent working for the CIA all along is exactly what I would want from a Black Widow movie.
• Compared to all the other movies’ protagonists, Lorraine as a character feels the most like Natalia to me: A seasoned spy, a bit world-weary, emotionally guarded, sour/hardened, carrying herself stylishly with a sharp confidence in her skills.
• The action goes for a more grounded approach, especially in the second half, which I like and overall the quality, cleverness & brutality of the choreography gave me strong Black Widow vibes.
• The vibrant and colorful neon aesthetic of Berlin in this movie also feels like it was pulled straight from the pages of a comic book.

In mcu she is born in 80’s while in comics she was born in 1920’s is there any reason mcu made her younger than her comic counterpart

I know mcu Natasha is very different from one in comic but is there any good reason for changing her age?