r/UFA 2d ago

Ultimate Frisbee Association – Community Power Rankings

10 Upvotes

Rank the teams in the UFA. Either make a Top 10 or a full list of all 22. Keep your list going each week and let's see how it changes over the course of the season.


This thread is posted every Monday at 7:00am Eastern.


r/UFA 20d ago

Ultimate Frisbee Association – Predictions [July 1-5]

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Ultimate Frisbee Association


Predict the winner of each game below. Keep track of your record and see how you fare over the season.

Date Time (ET) Matchup Watch
Wed 7/1 7:00pm ET #4 New York Empire at #20 Philadelphia Phoenix WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)
Fri 7/3 7:00pm ET #5 DC Breeze at #20 Philadelphia Phoenix WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)
Fri 7/3 8:00pm ET #11 Indianapolis Alleycats at #10 Madison Radicals Youtube (Free), Amazon Prime
Fri 7/3 8:00pm ET #19 Chicago Union at #1 Minnesota Wind Chill WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)
Fri 7/3 9:00pm ET #12 Seattle Cascades at #16 Colorado Apex WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)
Sat 7/4 7:00pm ET #22 Vegas Bighorns at #8 San Diego Growlers WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)
Sat 7/4 9:00pm ET #12 Seattle Cascades at #14 Salt Lake Shred WatchUFA.tv ($12/month) (Game of the Week)
Sun 7/5 1:00pm ET #13 Toronto Rush at #15 Montreal Royal WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)
Sun 7/5 2:00pm ET #1 Minnesota Wind Chill at #17 Pittsburgh Thunderbirds WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)
Sun 7/5 5:00pm ET #11 Indianapolis Alleycats at #19 Chicago Union WatchUFA.tv ($12/month)

Note: Select games are broadcast on Amazon Prime. Toronto Rush home games are on CBC's Youtube channel.

Resources:


r/UFA 6h ago

Playoff bracket contest

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Your job is to predict who will advance to each round in the playoffs. But to give you an incentive to make spicier picks, you will get extra points if you pick underdogs.

There are 11 predictions to make. These are listed below, along with the probability my computer model assigns to each team taking that spot. Each correct pick gets you 1 point if you picked a team which has probability more than 75%, 2 points if you pick a team with probability between 25 and 75%, and 4 points if you pick a team with probability smaller than 25%.

There is no requirement for your picks to be logically coherent. For example, you can pick both Boston and New York to make the title game, even though they're in the same region. Or, you can pick DC to beat New York in the first round but also New York to make the title game.

Post your bracket in the comments, and whoever gets the most points wins!

Winner of San Diego (17%) at Carolina (83%):
Winner of DC (22%) at New York (78%):
Winner of Salt Lake City (50%) at Seattle (50%):
Winner of Indianapolis (44%) at Madison (56%):
South champion (Carolina 50%, Austin 45%, SD 5%):
East champion (Boston 61%, NY 34%, DC 5%):
West champion (Oakland 85%, SLC 9%, Seattle 6%):
Central champion (Minnesota 87%, Madison 7%, Indy 6%):
Pick two teams to make the title game (see list of odds below):
Champion (see list of odds below):

To make the title game:
Oakland 58%, Boston 46%, Minnesota 34%, NY 24%, Carolina 18%, Austin 11%, SLC 3%, DC 2%, Seattle 2%, Madison 1%, Indy 1%, SD 1%

To win the title:
Boston 31%, Oakland 28%, NY 17%, Minny 13%, Carolina 6%, Austin 2%, DC 1%, SLC 1%, Seattle 0.3%, Madison 0.1%, Indy 0.1%, SD 0.1%


r/UFA 1d ago

Playoff odds

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Using my computer model, I estimated odds of each team reaching each round of the playoffs. The format is team, then prob of making the divisional final (i.e., the quarters), prob of making championship weekend (i.e., semis), prob of making the final, and prob of winning the title.

Feel free to gripe in the comments about how your favorite team gets no respect.


r/UFA 1d ago

Does anyone know why the Pittsburgh Chicago game was cancelled?

3 Upvotes

I see Shown Space is just counting the game as a tie. Are they just not going to play it?


r/UFA 2d ago

Regular Season Awards

8 Upvotes

The regular season is over. The playoffs are set. I want to hear everyone's takes on which players had the best seasons. Post your picks for:

MVP
Rookie of the Year
Offensive Player of the Year
Defensive Player of the Year
Most Improved Player


r/UFA 4d ago

New York was 17/17 on hucks in their game last night

21 Upvotes

Is that a record for most hucks without an incompletion? Pretty amazing. And Philly was 14/21 so the game had 38 total hucks.


r/UFA 8d ago

A review of the officiating mishaps in BOS vs MIN

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It's unfortunate that the awesome spectacle of two heavyweight teams going to battle had to be overshadowed by officials' decisions that, in my opinion, had a very real impact on the outcome of the game- some more than others.

Games move fast and even though we get the benefit of 3-4 replays sometimes, that doesn't mean we saw everything so I'm going to break down the most impactful moments and give my opinion of whether or not the calls were right and how bad the misses were.

Despite the bumpy road that this game traveled in terms of officiating, I'm very appreciative of the officials and the work they do so that we can enjoy the sport we love in this format.

The screenshots and recordings might take a little while to load and unfortunately I haven't tested them on mobile. Let's get into it.

Soft Foul on Tobe Decraene
In the first quarter, Boston goes deep to Tobe Decraene who is tightly guarded by Burnett and has a help defender also coming in from the back side of the play. The disc hangs and turns into a jump ball that is a pretty routine occurrence in this league. As is also routine, bodies collide in the air. Ultimately, the disc is not caught and a foul is awarded. As I watched it live at the game it immediately struck me as an extremely soft call. Nobody contacts the receiver until he's already missed the disc. In fact, Decraene extends his arm to try to create space between himself and the help defender. He wasn't knocked off his line, his hand/ arm are not impeded, and he certainly wasn't stripped. This is about as clean as the defense can possibly be in a scenario like this. Every single end of quarter jump ball has way more contact than this and you will never see a call there. Even the commentators were struggling to find justification for this call and called it an "MVP call"

Result: Boston retains possession and scores on the next throw

Ben Sadok Travel
This one went totally unmentioned on the broadcast and I don't think that anyone on the field noticed at all, which is insane. Sadok receives a low cross field hammer, needing to slide on his backside to make the catch and is ruled out of the end zone. Here is where he came to a stop and stands up. Here he is 3 seconds later, both feet entirely inside the end zone. He ends up throwing a pass that appears to go backwards for a goal from *inside the end zone.* Hard to say that a ten yard travel penalty would have changed the outcome of the point when Boston was converting so well inside the red zone but this is a bad miss because of how easy it should be to get this right. I often complain about how much people complain about travels in this sport, but what the hell is even that.

Result: Boston Goal

Cam Lacy In/ Out Call
Q3, Cam Lacy is tracking down a throw that's trailing out of bounds and has to leave his feet to grab it before it leaves the field. His momentum takes him out of bounds but there is the question of where his first point of contact was. He is ruled in bounds. This is the best freeze frame I could get of the moment he first makes contact with the turf. Maybe if we could download the video and go frame by frame we could get something more conclusive but I don't have the skills or software for that. It's possible that there are a couple frames before this that show his hand further in bounds. This is just the fastest I could click the pause button. It appears that his hand is in bounds but if his fingers are on the paint, it's out. Unfortunately, the fingers aren't visible from this angle so we can't be certain. What is certain is that the referee has an excellent vantage point on it. If they got it wrong, it's hardly an egregious miss given how small the margin is here. After reviewing replay during the broadcast, the commentators came to believe that Lacy was out and stated as much, which surely has an impact on the viewer's opinion.

Result: Minnesota goal

Lukas Ambrose Picked
End of Q3 and Decraene just threw a dart to Thomas Edmonds for a score. The Boston D line goes out to pull but suddenly there are whistles and the coaches and officials are meeting in the middle of the field. I was confused as hell watching live and only found out on the rewatch that a pick had been called. Getting down to the play, it's pretty weak but Edmonds does lead Ambrose through traffic. I don't see Ambrose being greatly impeded by his teammate and I don't blame Boston for not liking it, but I also see why a referee would call it. It's probably enough to draw a call in a club game. Beyond frustrating to let so much time go by before making the call that the next lines have taken the field. Thankfully it doesn't end up mattering much because Boston would still score on the restart.

Josh Klane buzzer beater throw
I didn't even know this was a controversy until rewatching the game and I heard the commentators mention it. At the end of the 3rd quarter, the Boston coaching staff noticed that the clock didn't start immediately when the Wind Chill offense took possession of the disc and they were right. Klane ends up boosting the throw with 0:02 on the clock. I timed how long it took from possession to when the clock does start and got as low as 1.89 seconds and as high as 2.11 seconds. Is that enough to conclusively say that the goal should not have counted? Without fractional timing on the game clock, idk how to make that call. It really comes down to a margin of error that depends on how fast fingers hit buttons which is razor thin and variable from game to game and person to person. This one was really close and is Boston's most legitimate complaint, IMO. Probably should have called it back and replayed the point. Ironically, if they had not called the weak pick, Minnesota would have had more time on the clock.

Result: Minnesota goal

No Foul Call on Peter Boerth
This one has been getting a lot of attention in the aftermath and is definitely going to be polarizing. Orion Cable sends a deep shot to Peter Boerth who is covered by Owen Suleflow. Boerth goes up over Suleflow to high point the disc. Suleflow stays on the ground, impacts Boerth's back/ lower body, and the disc bounces off Boerth's fingertips. Lepler thinks it's a foul. Toner calls it incidental contact. Replay shows Suleflow running into Boerth while he is airborne which is a cut and dry foul, right? What is lost in the analysis of this play on the broadcast is that at the end of his run, Boerth drifts towards the sideline and jumps directly into the path of Suleflow, who is drifting in the direction that the disc is fading, creating a situation where contact was unavoidable for the defender. Given the trajectory and height of the disc, I don't think Suleflow expected Boerth to try to high point this one and maybe was preparing to be boxed out. Regardless, Boerth jumps into his path at the very last second. Lepler adamantly stumps for this one being a foul on the broadcast which I think has a big impact on viewers' opinions.

Result: Boston turnover

Decraene Foul on Suleflow
This one looks bad because it happened right after a play that seemed very similar on the other end and no foul was awarded. Decreane and Suleflow both go up at the same time and Suleflow can't complete the catch. Even if you think this is mutually initiated contact, Suleflow has a pretty good case for a strip.

Result: Minnesota retains possession

Cam Lacy Foul on Orion Cable
This one is a doozy. If there is one call that changed the outcome of the game, this is it. Cam Lacy jumps a swing pass with a huge burst and whether he gets a finger on it, or did enough just by being in the way, Cable doesn't make the catch. Regardless, upon rewatch you can see that Cable adjusts his path to the disc, initiating the contact. Pretty bad look for him to be begging for a foul after that. This is a phenomenal play and ruling it a foul on the defense is awful, in my opinion, and to call it 5+ seconds late from 30 yards behind the play is simply outrageous. The official who called the foul on this play is not even on the screen. The impact on the game from this play was huge. Minnesota was about to go up by 2 in the fourth quarter but instead Boston converts to tie the game.

Result: 2 point swing in Boston's favor

"Phantom" Foul on Noah Coolman
Safe to say that anybody watching the TV feed was wondering what the hell happened here. This one was poorly captured by the broadcast because they were still playing replays of the previous point when it happened. I had the benefit of watching this in-person and can attest that there was definitely a foul. If you were watching on TV, this is what you saw. Just as the feed cuts back to live action, you see Coolman stumble in the stack. The defender on Noah Coolman began to reposition himself just as Coolman starts his cut and gets a foot tangled between Coolman's, tripping him up. The official calls the foul as soon as the disc is down, which is appropriate, but there was a lot of confusion about where he should be awarded the disc which was a bad look and definitely added to the controversy. The commentators are incredulous at this point, which also heightens the sense of controversy for the viewer.

Result: Minnesota ends up turning it over and eventually getting broken

The Low Hits
The fourth quarter featured two low hits on receivers- one by Noah Hanson on Tobe Decraene and one by Tapper(?) on Ellis Newhouse. Hanson was assessed a 20 yard flagrant that was definitely warranted. The one by Boston has been referenced as one of the "gifts" that Minnesota got from the refs because Minnesota was awarded 30 penalty yards even though the hit on Newhouse was not nearly as violent as the one on Decraene. What I think people are missing here is that Boston was assessed a 10 yard common foul *plus* a 20 yard technical for complaining to the refs about the call, which was a trend that had gone on for the entire game and is explicitly within the refs' power under the technical foul rules.

Conclusion
The narrative that it was Boston vs. the refs, as the post game thread indicated, doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. Boston has some legitimate grounds for complaint, particularly the buzzer beater, but even under a microscope it's impossible to say that the calls that didn't go their way were definitively wrong.

On the other hand, the calls that went against Minnesota were REALLY bad and it was easy to see that they were. What's more, those calls directly led to major impacts on the score.


r/UFA 8d ago

Tuesday Morning Scoober

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New Tuesday Morning Scoober dropped. Boston gets a huge win, Cam Brock sets an incredible record, and Austin has a wild, wild weekend. Finally, Ethan Hawkins is on pace to do something nobody has done since 2013. Check out the latest Scoober, and if you enjoy it, be sure to like and subscribe.


r/UFA 8d ago

Prediction contest for Week 13

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I thought it would be fun to have a prediction contest for the final week of the regular season. Below, I've listed computer model predictions for the score for each game, along with estimated win probabilities for each home team. Your job is to show that you know more than the computer.

For each game, you either choose to bet on a team to beat the computer model's spread, or you choose not to bet. If you picked a team and they beat the spread, you gain a point. If the other team beats the spread, you lose a point. If you don't make a prediction, or if you bet but the computer model's predicted margin is exactly right, you neither gain nor lose any points.

You also get to pick one underdog team. If the underdog actually wins, you get 1 point if their win probability was more than 30%, 2 points if it was 20-30%, 4 points if it was 10-20%, and 10 points if it was less than 10%. If they lose, you don't lose any points, so you might as well pick someone.

Whoever gets the most points wins!

Philadelphia at New York: Philadelphia 14, New York 29 (New York win prob: 97%)
Indianapolis at Pittsburgh: Indianapolis 26, Pittsburgh 19 (Pittsburgh win prob: 17%)
Chicago at Madison: Chicago 16, Madison 20 (Madison win prob: 74%)
Austin at Houston: Austin 26, Houston 15 (Houston win prob: 6%)
Oakland at Salt Lake City: Oakland 23, Salt Lake City 18 (Salt Lake City win prob: 25%)
Indianapolis at Toronto: Indianapolis 18, Toronto 22 (Toronto win prob: 76%)
Pittsburgh at Chicago: Pittsburgh 19, Chicago 24 (Chicago win prob: 75%)
Montreal at Boston: Montreal 14, Boston 22 (Boston win prob: 89%)
DC at Atlanta: DC 23, Atlanta 21 (Atlanta win prob: 40%)
Oregon at Seattle: Oregon 15, Seattle 23 (Seattle win prob: 89%)
Houston at Austin: Houston 14, Austin 27 (Austin win prob: 97%)
Oakland at Colorado: Oakland 26, Colorado 15 (Colorado win prob: 6%)
Vegas at San Diego: Vegas 13, San Diego 25 (San Diego win prob: 96%)
Madison at Minnesota: Madison 16, Minnesota 23 (Minnesota win prob: 87%)


r/UFA 9d ago

Ultimate Frisbee Association – Community Power Rankings

11 Upvotes

Rank the teams in the UFA. Either make a Top 10 or a full list of all 22. Keep your list going each week and let's see how it changes over the course of the season.


This thread is posted every Monday at 7:00am Eastern.


r/UFA 10d ago

Cam Brock reaches 1000 career scores

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Great moment for lovers of base ten today when Brock got his 1000th career score in the third quarter against Pittsburgh. This statistic includes goals and assists in both regular season and playoffs. Congrats to Brock and the Alleycats!


r/UFA 10d ago

Boston Glory beat the Minnesota Windchill and Refs 21-20

21 Upvotes

Great game, great officiating /s


r/UFA 11d ago

The Carolina Flyers beat the Austin Sol, 21-20.

28 Upvotes

I watched this game so you didn’t have to! In a heavyweight match up between the highschool dbag and your best friend’s calm, cool and collected older brother, the older brother prevailed. Barely. Great match, with potential MVP hopeful, Kyle Henke giving the game away twice.

We’ll see how tomorrow goes but if Austin goes on to lose to Atlanta, they’ll never break the Fraudstin claim.

Really looking forward to watching these two again in the south finals — it’s a shame we only get one matchup this season.


r/UFA 12d ago

New Pod with Pollard, UFO Newsletter, and New Fantasy Frisbee Contest

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A lot going on as we enter Week 12:

Episode 14 of the UFO Pod, with special guest Big Game James discussing how the Alleycats are turning it on just in time, how time management is improving league-wide, and how crazy it is that he's now playing against kids he used to coach at Summer Camp.

LISTEN ON SPOTIFY

LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS

Here's the latest newsletter, with point spreads, predictions, Shaggy's rankings, and news and notes around the league.

And here's the new fantasy contest we're running. Pick 5 palyers, whoever puts up the most points gets a free UFA frisbee!


r/UFA 13d ago

Week 12 predictions

13 Upvotes

For every correct prediction my dog gets a treat.

Carolina 22 Austin 18
New York 26 Chicago 15
Madison 25 Pittsburgh 19
Seattle 23 Oregon 18
Indianapolis 27 Pittsburgh 18
Boston 20 Minnesota 17
DC 22 Philadelphia 13
Atlanta 21 Austin 20
New York 22 Toronto 18


r/UFA 13d ago

UFA Statistics: Team Strengths Heading Toward Playoffs

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r/UFA 13d ago

Indianapolis Alleycats with a huge layout callahan near the end of the fourth quarter!

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r/UFA 13d ago

Indianapolis, Seattle Surging After Big Road Wins | Week 11 Recap

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r/UFA 13d ago

UFA Playoff Picture Entering Week 12

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r/UFA 14d ago

UFA champion vs Club champion game

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Has there ever been an attempt to have the men’s club winning team play the UFA champions?

Now that most players play both and skill gap is even, it would make an entertaining game. They would just have to decide on what rules to follow, usau, ufa or a hybrid.


r/UFA 15d ago

Tuesday Morning Scoober

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This week on the Scoober, we talk about the WILD ending to Seattle-Salt Lake, Indy's breakout weekend, and why ultimate is WAY better to watch than soccer. If you enjoy it, please be sure to sign up for our newsletter (it's free) and follow the pod.


r/UFA 16d ago

How many players from the Minnesota Wind Chill would need to join the Vegas Bighorns to then beat Minnesota?

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For example, if you took the seven best players from Minnesota and put them on Vegas, would that be enough to beat the rest of the Minnesota team? If not, how many more would be needed?

These are the dumbass questions that keep me up at night. Thanks for your indulgence.


r/UFA 16d ago

'Everything Ultimate' App

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Not sure if this is appropriate for here, but I've been building an 'all in one' frisbee app that aggregates all UFA, USAU, WUL, PUL & recently WFDF games, events, rosters and stats when available. Seems to be working pretty well and wanted to put it out into the world as I think people would find it pretty useful. I had noticed most interfaces for getting this data weren't very user friendly and spread out across different platforms.

TheLayout.app

Currently developing a mobile app that will go on IOS/Andriod app stores, but in the mean time really looking for suggestions and feedback that would make this useful for the average frisbee player trying to stay up to date.

Also included in the app is a Playbook for designing and sharing plays, Fantasy Frisbee which is still in Beta, and a mini game '12-0' built to replicate '82-0' for basketball.

Thanks for checking it out in advance!


r/UFA 16d ago

How much of a handicap would the Vegas Bighorns need to defeat the Oakland Spiders?

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Let's say Vegas began the game leading 10-0 against Oakland. Would they win the game, or would Oakland get enough breaks to emerge victorious? If the latter, how much of a handicap would Vegas need to win? 15 goals?