r/U2Band 6d ago

Song of the Week - Until the End of the World

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This week's song of the week is "Until the End of the World" from the band's Achtung Baby album. Originally written for the Wim Wenders film of the same name, the song portrays a conversation between Jesus Christ and Judas Iscariot. Niall Stokes writes:

"It was in the air. The Edge’s marriage was falling apart. So was Guggi's. There was tension in the band. Now that they were working with rhythm loops, Larry wasn't even sure what his place was anymore. There was that morning where the others had succeeded in leaving him stranded. Larry had spent hours languishing in his East German hotel. When he got in to Hansa, in the end, he was furious and he let everyone know it. Betrayal. 

...Judas Iscariot was a remarkable character. The more you thought about him the more enigmatic he became. The redemption couldn't have happened without him. So was he the ultimate insider? It was interesting how he betrayed Jesus: with a kiss! What had been going on between them anyway? 

Written for Wim Wenders, ‘Until the End of the World’ is about an encounter in which sex is high on the agenda. There’s a hint that only men were involved. There's also a strong suggestion of prostitution. And there is an unmistakable reference to oral sex: “Surrounding me, going down on me/spilling over the brim.” But it doesn’t stop there. “In waves of regret, waves of joy,” Bono sings, “I reached out for the one I tried to destroy.” And you know that he must be thinking of an orgasm that's drenched in feelings of guilt."

Though not released as a single, the track quickly became a fan favorite and critical success live. Reviewers and fans note that Bono and The Edge frequently engage in a mock battle where Bono plays a charging bull (often making horns with his fingers) while The Edge acts as the matador, using his guitar in place of a cape.

"Moments later, as his bandmates pounded out "Until the End of the World," the singer approached a video camera filming the performance, kissed its lens and then yanked it down to his crotch. An audience of 15,000 in the Miami Arena watched on a dozen video screens and roared its approval.” (From Larry Rother's ZooTV concert review for the New York Times).

Over the years, the band has allowed the song to take on various political dimensions: such as Bono's pleas for peace in the Middle East on the 360 Tour and the references to Russia in his memoir "Surrender", where a drawing of Gorbachev is used as the song's illustration (see a list of links at the bottom of the page for some notable live versions):

from Bono's memoir Surrender

"Until the end of the world. Where Edge and I take a train into a subway/bomb shelter in the capital of Ukraine and Mikhail Gorbachev once leader of the ‘unfree world’ knocks on our door in Dublin to offer a teddy bear for a picnic. Line drawing of Gorbachev holding a teddy bear while standing next to a sign post labeled 'end of world.' The sign is pointing off to the right." (Surrender).

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Lyrics

"Haven't seen you in quite a while
I was down the hold, just passing time.
Last time we met it was a low-lit room
We were as close together as a bride and groom.
We ate the food, we drank the wine
Everybody having a good time except you.
You were talking about the end of the world."

The song opens with an Enoesque vocal sonic flourish which tight, driving drums come out of. In comes the image of the Last Supper not as a sacred sacrament, but as a tense reunion between estranged partners. Perhaps in a night club just as well as in the scene famously portrayed by Da Vinci's painting. Bono establishes the intimacy immediately, placing Judas and Jesus "as close together as a bride and groom," setting up the erotic subtext that drives the rest of the song.

Because we only hear Judas's side of the conversation, dramatic irony takes over. When Jesus prophesies his own death and the betrayal of his disciples, Bono doesn't quote him; instead, he shows Judas rolling his eyes. The cosmic stakes ("the end of the world") are reduced to Judas viewing Jesus as the killjoy at the party. Judas is the detached bourgeois cynic, wondering why Judas can't just have a good time.

" I took the money, I spiked your drink
You miss too much these days if you stop to think.
You led me on with those innocent eyes
And you know I love the element of surprise.
In the garden I was playing the tart
I kissed your lips and broke your heart.
You, you were acting like it was the end of the world."

This verse portrays the myth of the Garden of Gethsemane, in which it is said that Judas fulfilled Jesus's prophecy by kissing him in exchange for money from pharisees. The song adds a Freudian, playful edge. "Innocent eyes", "playing the tart", and the (first of two) possible references to oral sex, "kissed your lips". There is a sense in which these sexual images become both aesthetic ornaments for our imagination, as well as humanistic psychological layers to the original Biblical story.

"In my dream, I was drowning my sorrows
But my sorrows they'd learned to swim
Surrounding me, going down on me
Spilling over the brim
Waves of regret and waves of joy.
I reached out for the one I tried to destroy.
You, you said you'd wait till the end of the world."

The first round of "Love love love"s precedes the final verse, which speaks of intense regret and a feeling of moral failure. It is unknown, as pointed out in many writings on the subject, whether Judas would have been condemned to hell, whether he would have repented in this way, and what the Lord's reaction might have been. This is the most straightforward way of taking the verse. It is a continuation of the Biblical story, again grounded in and elevated by the use of everyday imagery.

However, I can't quite get out of my head Bono's continued assertion that the song is a "conversation" between Jesus and Judas.

"The lyric was written very quickly in Wexford in my father-in-law's house. I woke up one morning and it was in my head, a conversation between Jesus and Judas. 'That'll be a hit!' Ali thought to herself. It is not the usual pop fare." (Bono in U2 by U2)

It is quite plausible that this is reconciled by the imagery invoked in concert, where it appears that the Edge (or his guitar) is the figure that Bono "reaches out" to. Or simply the "You were acting like it was the end of the world", alone, represents Jesus. I have wondered though if it is possible that the last verse actually represents Jesus on the cross. When he questions the lord, "Why hast thou forsaken me?", perhaps this is better heard addressed to Judas. Jesus, drowning in his own blood and pitifully served wine, reaches out for his Earth-bound lover-- chastened by the cross.

"Love, love, love, love, love
Love, love, love
Love, love, love, love
..."

"All of these elements are in there, of course, but the song is about betrayal and it's written from the point of view of Judas Iscariot. The line “In the garden | was playing the tart/| kissed your lips and broke your heart” refers to the scene in the Garden of Gethsemane, and there’s no mistaking the implication of a homoerotic bond between Jesus and Judas. 

On the other hand, there’s a sense that Bono is writing about himself and his own capacity for betrayal. Or could it be about someone Bono felt had betrayed him? In truth it is about all the betrayals that were so central to U2 at the time." (Stokes)

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"“Until the End of the World” was never a single, but you seem to play it every tour. What about that song makes it work in any context in your live show?

That’s a very good question. I think it’s an amazing song live because it really showcases everything the band does best. In terms of its visceral energy and impact, it’s one of those songs that’s hard to beat. In the context of these Songs of Innocence and Songs of Experience shows, it fits thematically perfectly. It’s got references to mortality, to all the big questions. It’s been a bit like “Where the Streets Have No Name” in that it’s found its way into most of our shows since it was first played live." (The Edge in Rolling Stone 2018)

From U2 Live in Sydney

Sources:

U2.com
U2songs.com
U2gigs.com
U2 By U2
U2: Into the Heart by Niall Stokes
Rolling Stone 2018: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/the-edge-on-u2s-experience-tour-this-is-for-our-committed-fans-628392/
NYT 1992: https://web.archive.org/web/20140807201323/https://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/15/arts/pop-music-a-chastened-u2-comes-down-to-earth.html
Surrender: 40 Songs, One Story by Bono

LIVE:

1993 ZooTV Live in Syndey
1992 ZooTV (remastered 2021)
U22: 360 Tour Live from Mexico City
2001: Elevation Tour Live from Boston

See also: Music video directed by Richie Smyth
Soundtrack version with film clips from Wenders's film


r/U2Band Aug 06 '24

One Tree Hill: The U2 Discord Server

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Welcome to One Tree Hill: The U2 Discord - the largest U2 community on the platform! We've been around for a while but have never done a proper post on the subreddit, so here it is.

We offer a variety of things to members, including song vs song competitions, channels for discussing studio content, live performances and photos of the band, as well as all your mainstay channels for any growing community server. We also have hundreds of members already and are looking to grow much more in the near future!

We hope to see you there! Here's the invite link:

https://discord.com/invite/EYCVD7CWru


r/U2Band 4h ago

Fireflies

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You can listen now if it’s after midnight (Australia/Japan) where you are or if you know how to use VPN.


r/U2Band 1h ago

FireFlies Music Video

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Cre: Gabe Fraboni on IG (Head of Marin Garrix Production Team)


r/U2Band 2h ago

Are U2 "clearing out the vault", so to speak?

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First we got How To Re-Assemble an Atomic Bomb, a bunch of outtakes from HTDAAB that they seem to have gone through, polished off, and released.

The two EPs, sonically, are very similar to that 2004 era of U2. Are they songs that U2 had ideas for and finally got around to finishing? Maybe some song parts or demos they uncovered while sorting through tracks in the vault for Re-Assemble, decided to finish and release them?

Then we find out about Fireflies, a song title that's been around for U2 since at least 2004 when it was a demo version of "City of Blinding Lights"... interesting that it's again connected to those HTDAAB period demos. Is this another track with elements that they found in the vault and decided to finish?

We also know that Eno is involved with what they’ve been working on, and they never released Songs of Ascent. Bono has talked about songs of ascent as recently as his book tour, and U2 has talked about having 50 or 60 songs from the NLOTH sessions that they never released. Seems like that’s lot of material they could revisit too.

I guess I'm wondering if U2 is going through their vault, especially the HTDAAB period of songs, and finishing tracks off to release? Will the new album have a lot of older songs / song parts that they're finally finishing off?

I love the idea of them revisiting songs they never finished and completing them. I know the band has talked about having a lot of ideas and music from after the Elevation tour and during the HTDAAB period. Maybe they're tapping back into those ideas?


r/U2Band 3h ago

Indian Summer Sky Vinyl Bootleg

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Where can I get a copy of the Indian Summer Sky bootleg on vinyl, anyone on here have a copy they would part with? It’s the show from the unforgettable fire tour in Nantes, France in 1984. Picture is for reference but it came on either red vinyl, grey vinyl, clear vinyl & green/orange vinyl. I have no preference for what colour, I just want a copy of the damn thing!


r/U2Band 2h ago

Record store pickups

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East river records in Weaverville/Asheville

Elevation dvd $5, EBTTRT single 4 and Bono interview disc $3. Super happy and highly recommend the store if you are in WNC


r/U2Band 9h ago

Adam Clayton Talks the Precision Bass | Fender

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r/U2Band 15h ago

Some of my favorite U2 concert pics

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Been a U2 fan for 40 years. Seen them maybe 10 times. My first concert being a day on the green in 1987 with the pretenders. I can’t believe my parents let me go. I had to beg them. I wish I had photos from that.


r/U2Band 20h ago

With Pavarotti

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r/U2Band 1d ago

Found in basement

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Found in a box in my parent’s basement. I took this from the record store I worked at when the album came out. They said not too.. but I did anyway. Cause that’s punk rock!


r/U2Band 16h ago

Looking for prayer candles

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A few years ago, pre covid. I was on vacations in LA. I stumbled into a gift shop that had pop culture prayer candles. Musicians, actors, etc. Bono and Chewbacca where there. I missed the opportunity to buy them because I was too afraid to carry them on the plane and the damage risk. I have been regretting that decision for over 7 years.

Once in a while I search the internet, Amazon, ebay, Etsy, etc. When I get some results they are, either low quality and crappy designs or they don't ship worldwide (mexico).

Has anyone bought something similar and can give me pointers to an online store? They would look great at my homeoffice 😁

Edit: to keep it even more music related I was in LA to catch my first ever show by The Ocean Blue. Great band, heavily influenced by post punk and new romantic. Great guys. If you watch some of their videos for their third album, specially Don't Believe Everything you hear, there's a clear Achtung Baby influence in the message.


r/U2Band 1d ago

almost 30yrs of listening to 'do you feel loved' / POP

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every year since release has been a slow but eventual journey to cherishing POP in its entirety. listening to it front to back today after a while. cannot help but be moved by bono's lyrics, vocals, the production, the edge was on fire, adam was feeling it and larry more subtle. what is even happening on mofo and miami? was it the closest they were to bring coked out? but then you have tender/sober stuff like if you wear that velvet dress. arena U2 rear their head very briefly in last night on earth. everything else feels like it's directed at the nocturnal. immensely thankful it exists.


r/U2Band 1d ago

U2 streams

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Street of Dreams has reached 2 millions listens in 2 weeks. That's about 6 million less than You're the Best Thing About Me in a similar time. Any reason why the drop off?


r/U2Band 1d ago

✍️ORIGINAL CONTENT & FAN ART🎨 High School art project

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I made this back in the 90's for art class. I did a bunch of U2 paintings and drawings when I was a teenager, I just have to find them lol


r/U2Band 3h ago

Powered by U2 Pro Formula

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I'm fishing in a bass tournament this weekend, so I picked up some live well conditioner.

This must be some type of sign..


r/U2Band 1d ago

This mornings vibes - The Best of 1980-1990

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r/U2Band 1d ago

I've always loved their music but I've wondered if anyone likes their covers alot like me

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Like unchained melody or helter skelter etc...what's your favorite cover song u2 has ever made..


r/U2Band 2d ago

Martin Garrix on Instagram: "Fireflies will meet you at midnight this friday wherever you are! @u2"

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r/U2Band 2d ago

Another vinyl score.

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r/U2Band 1d ago

America will rise, against the people of the right.

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U2 - American Obituary


r/U2Band 2d ago

For Those Unhappy About U2's Recent Moves....

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....count your blessings.

It could be a lot worse: U2 wasn't a part of that total shitshow of a halftime show for the World Cup final. It could have just as easily been U2 making complete fools of themselves instead of coldplay. Thank God Street of Dreams was only played as outro music for the commercial breaks.

I applaud U2 for avoiding this most embarrassing of pitfalls.


r/U2Band 2d ago

Every dream begins somewhere

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r/U2Band 2d ago

Where Do People Buy/Sell/Treade Merch, Collectibles Etc?

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I hope it is ok to ask this:
I have not been as involved with buying /selling/trading stuff for a long time, so don’t know where people have the best luck these days for music related shopping.

There are a few artists that I collect and was interested in knowing whether ebay, FB or…? are the places to go these days.

Thank you so much!


r/U2Band 3d ago

Terry Lawless cancels all his own shows after mid-August

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Well this could be something. Or maybe nothing.

Terry Lawless (U2’s live synth/electronics wiz) made a post on his Facebook page today stating that all his own shows past mid-August he had scheduled have now been cancelled.

He specifically says it’s not due to illness but hasn’t said exactly why and commenting has been turned off on the post now.

Tour plans maybe now finalised?

Sorry, can’t figure out how to link to his page from the Facebook app on the phone lol, but search for him on it and you’ll find him.