This was so disappointing to watch as a black viewer. These girls do not care about having the tough conversations, they’re just worried about how saying the wrong thing will make them look..
Crystal and Sutton talk about it in S11 -the white woman ends up in tears off the bare minimum. Crystal never gets to make her point.

Crystal and Sutton talk about it in S12- the white woman and all the other white women are more concerned about Suttons reputation. Crystals point goes unheard. Everyone just feigns confusion to her point but heavily admonishes her delivery.

Sutton clearly weaponizes her emotions. Nobody ever gets to have a meaningful conversation about race bc she’ll run off crying as if racism ever affects her beyond being called one…take as old as time. Racism gets brought up and suddenly the white woman in the room is the victim, the focal point, the moment honey everything under the sun except the purveyor bc that would make her a bad person. Always more worried about herself , never the person in front her.

The irony is that part of the pervasive forms that racism shows up isn’t always direct slurs. It can also come through silencing people of color. And rather than actually discussing Crystals thoughts more thoroughly, the white women ran to coddle …. The white woman. Her poor reputation 🙄 oml Crystals explanation for why “I don’t see color” was not nearly as elevated as Suttons feelings about race related conversations.

And shame on Garcelle, bc she’s honestly the only other one in the group that could possibly understand Crystals position with Sutton, but she felt more compelled to create a rift between that friendship. Probably bc she knows none of her other ones on this show are at all authentic but that’s a different discussion.

Never been the biggest fan of Kyle, but she has her moments where she has been funny and sweet. However the start of season 13 is where she loses me, being upset about what Dorit said at bravo con. When she was asked to rank the Richards sisters, it was a funny cute moment. Clearly a joke. Why was Kyle so upset by that??

Okay so i’m absolutely obsessed with this show so far. These women are so unhinged i love it. On season 3 episode 4.

But my question… LVP is definitely not a good person and it’s really highlighted in VPR. The way she consistently excuses men’s bad behavior is so gross.
In this show I can definitely see how she can be manipulated but why do people act like she’s some sort of evil genius?

Brandi is a grown ass woman who is not an idiot she willingly started all these nasty fights and made these nasty remarks to the other housewives.

I would say Kyle/Adrienne are just as sneaky as LVP. Lisa beat Adrienne but Kyle ended up beating LVP, why isn’t Kyle considered the evil genius then.

It’s just weird to me because all the women are manipulative in their own ways but they’re also GROWN women with their own autonomy like i don’t feel sorry for them saying “Lisa manipulated me into saying and doing these horrible things🥹🥹”

But i will say Lisa and Kyle play their roles as housewives very well I cannot wait to see their falling out and to see how Rinna fits into all this mess!

I really rooted for Sutton when she first appeared. I really loved the “friendship” with Crystal and Garcelle. But now, in retrospect I have some thoughts about her. I think when she joined the group and as new people came in, she was really going through a hormonal shift and was feeling sensitive and insecure about her divorce. She was kind of a mess. In the Tahoe episodes, funnily enough, it came up about Paris Hilton using her phone as a way to keep people away. The women say how you really need to consider that we don’t know what people are going through. But then all the women continue to pick at her. If someone is crying all the time, there’s something else going on.

Edit to add: But as seasons go on and the falling out with Garcelle, I think, she’s just not very mature or nice really. I don’t really like any of these ladies. They all annoy me.

I‘m sorry but the comments about Gigi doing Volleyball making her too masculine and appear like a lesbian, her comments about drunk women being ugly (as if that was the biggest issue about the drinking) and her comments on Gigi’s body make me so nervous. It’s so much internalized misogyny and fatphobia. I know it’s an old reality tv series following rich white women but it makes the season borderline unwatchable to me..

I don’t understand her aesthetic at all. She needs a makeunder in the worst way.

I pretty much know what happens this season. (Just looking now and it says ma'am posts have to be 30 characters. I always think people are gonna assume im a woman on here. Idk why and this has just confirmed it😂)

ANYWAY

Kyle is being worse than I thought. Idk how to explain it but shes just being horrible then acting like a victim or she just runs away.

This honestly seems like a rough season for kyle. I didnt think she'd be back hut as we all know kyle always comes back.

It seems like the only person on Denise's side is garcelle who comes and goes as she pleases 😂 i don't blame her tbh.

I think Denise was over reacting about the kids thing but idc. I dont think it was a big deal like it was made out to be. She didnt want her kids hearing that. She over reacted and nobody could let it go. It was so pathetic.

Aaron is annoying. Patronising. Condescending. But he does make some good points.

Erika is being weird with him. Shes being annoying but only as annoying as he is and again shes making good points.

Rinna isnt being as bad as ive heard as far as i can see. I saw a post a few years ago saying who's the most evil housewife and this was as i started watch my first 2 franchises. Potomac and salt lake city. All of the comments were saying lisa rinna and I googled her and she did look a bit evil 😂. I've seen a few moments that I dont love and I do think shes ganging up in denise a bit but to say she was the most evil? Hello? Lisa rinna. Really? Theres a million people I'd put before her. Anyway whatever.

There's been:

• Lisa Vanderpump's restaurants, wine, flowers, pet products
• Kyle's boutiques
• Erika's music, performance shows, and broadway
• Brandi's podcast and books
• Adrienne's shoes and vodka
• Rinna's QVC clothes and lipsticks
• Dorit's bathing suits, bridal line, and now her memoir/book tour
• Amanda's upcoming book events

Who do you think has actually been the best at converting RHOBH exposure into real business success? And on the flip side, whose launches seemed like they had a lot of hype but didn't really gain traction? Not just about who's the richest or most liked or has the biggest name, but whose audience actually shows up and buys?

Kim: “I don’t say yes to everything like you Lisa I have some dignity”

Andy: “you did do diving with the stars”

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Now I’m at Season 10 and Brandi unfortunately popped up again. Why can’t they tell when she start lying her voice gets high and she’s so defensive. She’s so damn annoying! Now I see her now and it’s her karma.

When Lisa brings up a story about Harry Hamlin’s friend who r@#$& someone in comparison to what happened with Denise the previous season is crazy! Who knows what has gone on with Denise but for Rinna to compare it to that is very dark. She’s so horrible.

I’m a new watcher. I’m on season 10. Dorit was actually the second one to clock that there was lesbian vibes with Kyle. First one was Allison Dubois. Lol