r/LegaciesCW Jun 04 '22

Announcement Season 4 Mass Episode Post [UPDATED]

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Here you will find everything you need for season 4 ranging from episode discussions to promotional pictures. This is meant to have everything in one place with ability to reach an episode's post with just a click and to prevent spam on the sub. This will be updated as more episodes air and new information is released. You can view the previous Season 4 Mass Episode Post here, it was left abandoned thus this new, updated version.

PSA: If you post synopsis, stills, or trailers, please title it properly with the episode name/title and "stills" (or whatever it is you're posting) and ONLY post the link/pictures with no additional body. This ensures for a clear viewing experience and easy access to information. You can put your thoughts about the material in the comment section of your own post.

Season 4

Episode 1: "You Have To Pick One This Time"

Episode 2: "There's No I In Team, Or Whatever"

Episode 3: "We All Knew This Day Was Coming"

Episode 4: "See You On The Other Side"

Episode 5: "I Thought You'd Be Happier To See Me"

Episode 6: "You're A Long Way From Home"

Episode 7: "Someplace Far Away From All This Violence"

Episode 8: "You Will Remember Me"

Episode 9: "I Can't Be The One To Stop You"

Episode 10: "The Story of My Life"

Episode 11: "Follow The Sound of My Voice

Episode 12: "Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost"

Episode 13: "Was This The Monster You Saw?"

Episode 14: "The Only Way Out Is Through"

Episode 15: "Everything That Can Be Lost May Also Be Found"

Episode 16: "I Wouldn't Be Standing Here If It Weren't For You"

Episode 17: "Into the Woods"

Episode 18: "By The End Of This, You’ll Know Who You Were Meant To Be"

Episode 19: "This Can Only End In Blood"

Episode 20: "Just Don't Be a Stranger, Okay?"


r/LegaciesCW 16h ago

Ranting legacies is so cringe and the plot and the storyline every episode is so boring and predictable

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nothing like the originals. they defeat monster, new monster comes at the end of episode. boring. wheres the drama.

i feel like the originals brought in the villains more smoothly and it wasnt every episode. it was one villain every like 3 episodes.


r/LegaciesCW 1d ago

Discussion Why was Hope's transition treated so seriously?

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I understand she'd change considerably but everyone treated it like she was going to permanently die - everyone knew she would come back. They're also all intrinsically aware of the logistics of vampirism because they've got vampire friends, so they knew she would be the same person.

Why all the fuss? Literally watching the episode right now it feels like they were having a wake with all the stories, etc and even Freya's tears, Hope may have needed to die but they all knew she wasn't going to strictly be permanently dead and would return.

So what was with all the fuss?


r/LegaciesCW 21h ago

FanFic What’s some of your Post Legacies fanfic?

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Not really looking for recommendations but I remembered I posted about what some people preferred the characters future to look like after the show.

Also I notice most fanfic tends to focus on rewriting the whole Legacies so I wanted to know of some that explore adventures post show.

For my own entertainment, I’m writing one that (I’m sure many would hate this) has aliens. Gives Hope a new love interest and sets the characters from all 3 major shows on a high stakes debacle where they will likely die if they don’t pull together. So just partially normal TVDU😂. Not really planning to publish it, but it’s been fun thinking of a post legacies adventure.

So what about ya’ll? What have you seen or written about the further adventures of our favourite Super Squad?

BTY; If you want to know about my fic then I’ll let you know 😅


r/LegaciesCW 1d ago

FanFic Making a fanfic on wattpad rewriting legacies

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So, I've been rewatching The Originals and I'm currently watching The Vampire Diaries. I also finished Season 1 of Legacies, which I ended up dropping because, honestly, I wasn't a fan of it. The characters had a lot of potential, but the overall story just didn't work for me.

For context, Legacies was actually the first TVDU show I watched before getting into TVD and TO. Now that I've experienced the entire lore of the universe, I've become completely obsessed with it, especially The Originals. I've been thinking about this world and these characters for months.

Because of that, I've decided I want to write a Legacies rewrite fanfic. my biggest goal is to shift the focus back to the Salvatore School and its supernatural students instead of making everything revolve around Malivore. I'm still undecided whether I'll remove Malivore entirely or rewrite the concept into something that fits the established lore better, or remove him entirely. I also want the conflicts to feel much more personal by centering them around the characters' family legacies like the Gemini coven and Klaus/mikaelson family enemies, Instead of random monsters every week, I want enemies that are directly connected to witches, vampires, werewolves, siphoners, hunters or psychics and the history and lore we've already seen in TVD and TO.

One idea I really love is making Triad the main antagonist of Season 1 like most of the people here who likes to rewrite it and exploring humans as a genuine threat to the supernatural world. I also don't plan on introducing new supernatural species—I want to stay faithful to the original lore and only focus on witches, vampires, werewolves, siphoners and etc.

Another concept I'm excited about is leaning into gothic horror. I had this idea of introducing a cult that worships Hope because she's the Tribrid. To them, she's essentially a divine figure, which could make for some really creepy and psychological storylines.

Overall, I want this rewrite to capture the atmosphere of early The Vampire Diaries the darker tone, mystery, suspense, character-driven drama, and gothic aesthetic that made Season 1 so iconic.

I'd love to hear your suggestions, ideas, or advice. If you've ever thought about how you'd rewrite Legacies, or if you have any tips for writing within TVDU lore, I'd really appreciate the help!


r/LegaciesCW 10d ago

Question First Season, would throwing a vial of Hopes blood into the pit have done anything

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pretty much as the title says. when the last item was thrown into the pit and malivore was going to come alive again, if hope cut herself and let her blood drip ( as much as possible) into the pit would have killed him, or would it not have been enough blood, or does it not work that way?


r/LegaciesCW 12d ago

Discussion Would the cure work on Hope?

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Rebekah offered Hope the cure but I feel like that's silly because they don't even know if it would work. Although it's a possibility as the cure doesn't remove just vampirism, it removes immortality, there are two factors to it not working.

  1. Hope was born with Vampire Blood in her DNA.

It's like trying to remove something that was always there, although again it removes immortality and even if Hope always had vampire blood in her system, she still had to die and go through the process of transition to achieve immortality.

  1. Hopes magic is too powerful.

Although Qetsiyah was powerful and so is the cure she created, I feel like the only reason it worked on near anyone was because no one came close to out scaling her in power. Hope goes beyond that, there's not a single character that matches Hope in magical power, aside from maybe Ken but even then. In order for the cure to work I feel like it would need to overpower Hopes magic and strength that is protecting her, which I don't think it could do.

Hopes power scales to, her being a Mikealson, her being a first born mikealson at that, being a descendant of Inadu (which could explain the blue energy), the werewolf side making it more aggressive and the vampire side giving it an unlimited supply. Even Qetsiyah couldn't match that type of power scale so I feel like the odds are low to none.


r/LegaciesCW 13d ago

Discussion The No Humanity Hope arc was a mess. (TL;DR, she seemed too emotional, made her seem like she had DID, and it was drawn out for far too long.)

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Now just to clarify, I had no issue with Hope having her humanity off the same episode she became a Vampire. It made sense that killing the love of her life would make her turn it off. What I don’t like, is how they made her have it off for most of the damn season. Which just so happened to be the last. We didn’t get to see her grow into her Vampirism and explore it with her humanity on. Not just that, but the whole split personality thing was dragged on too long. If it were for that one episode, it would’ve been fine. But that made it seem like every Vampire with it turned off had some sort of split personality, which doesn’t really fit the narrative. And if we’re gonna get scientific, split personalities don’t even work that way. You can’t just choose. Also, another criticism I had was that no Humanity Hope seemed to have TOO much emotions. I get that the dimmer switch exists, but usually it’s not them full blown crying or anything. It’s mostly contemplative. Like what we’ve seen from Damon in season 8. Like I don’t even believe no Humanity Vampires have zero emotions, because we’ve seen them feel vengeful and hatred and jealous. But never sad, not really. Maybe for like a flicker of a second, but not a whole minute or whatever. I dunno. I kinda wanted to rant about the poor writing of season 4 revolving Hope. What do you guys think?


r/LegaciesCW 13d ago

Raving Legacies may not be for everyone, but you've got to admit they dropped an absolute banger

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r/LegaciesCW 14d ago

Discussion Tier List for strongest beings in the verse (Mostly ordered)

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I'll mention any possible confusion.

  1. Inadu is not comparable to other witches. She creates passive reality warping and calamities by merely just her power getting to close together. No Spellcasting was needed. On top of being the hardest person to kill on this list.

  2. Its Kai Parker when he absorbed the traveler spell.

  3. Freya this is when she was first introduced and giga overpowered.

  4. The necromancer this was when he absorbed all that dark magic.

  5. This is dark Josie.

  6. Harvest powers Davina is the davina used here.

  7. The Green Knight was the most dominant physical force ever shown. Only the gods showing comparable physicality. On top of it being an almost unstoppable force. Honestly he's too low.

  8. Dragons are pretty op. A death spell can bring them out of dragon form, but it doesn't kill. They can fly, have great physicality, and have a pretty strong fire breath. I dont see anything other than "one of the strongest witches in history." Dealing with one. And honestly, without prep, they probably can't. So they could be too low just like the Green Knight.

  9. Idk where to put malivore.

  10. The Shunka is possibly physically stronger than any vampire. Its just not immortal. It treated a werewolf like a puppy. I dont even think an original can treat a werewolf like a puppy. Beat them yes, but not treat one like a puppy no.


r/LegaciesCW 15d ago

Shipping Lanjope should have been a polycule 😭

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Landon loved both Josie and Hope, and Hope and Josie crushed on eachother too. They would have been so great together as a thruple and it's a tragedy that we never got Lanjope.


r/LegaciesCW 17d ago

Discussion One of my biggest issues with Legacies is that Hope's entire personality feels like "I'm Klaus Mikaelson's daughter."

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She says it all the time. She even introduces herself to Ken that way instead of just saying, "I'm Hope Mikaelson."

Like... you're the freaking Tribrid. Your name should carry enough weight on its own. You shouldn't have to constantly remind everyone who your dad is.

And the way the show barely acknowledges Hayley is so annoying. Sometimes it genuinely feels like the writers forgot Hope had a mother. They literally had to re-edit an episode because they forgot Hope's Crescent birthmark. They couldn't use Hayley's image, sure, but they absolutely could've mentioned her more instead of making every other conversation about Klaus.


r/LegaciesCW 18d ago

Discussion Hayley & Hopes Casting

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Okay but it's actually kinda uncanny how similar Danielle and Phoebe look to eachother, like if I didn't know about this show and you told me that they are actually mother/daughter I would believe you. Hopes casting even more, because how does Danielle look like a mix of the entire Mikealson family, like I see Freya, Klaus, Rebekah even a bit of Kol in there. Was Danielle made in a lab for this show?


r/LegaciesCW 18d ago

Extras What Hope Mikealson said that still touches me...

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"You cannot compel her not to grieve. Tell her that it's gonna hurt. It always will. Tell her that some days will be harder than others but eventually she'll remember the good times... Tell her to hold on to those, because it's the key to getting through this."

~Hope Mikealson

-Season 1, Episode 4


r/LegaciesCW 20d ago

FanFic Please recommend some fan fiction of The Originals, The Vampire Diaries and Legacies.

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My Preferred Pairings:

(Romantic)

Klaus/ Caroline

Klaus/ Hayley

Elijah/ Katherine

Elijah/ Hayley

Stefan/ Elena

Stefan/ Katherine

Damon/ Katherine

Hope/ Landon

(Friendship)

Klaus/ Stefan

Damon/ Bonnie

Landon/ Lizzie

Hope/ Lizzie

(Family)

Klaus/ Marcel/ Hope (Basically, all the Mikaelson finally having a happy ending.)


r/LegaciesCW 21d ago

Discussion Headcanon: Neurodivergent Lizzie Saltzman?

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I haven’t seen the entire show yet, just S1 and half of S2. But I know the spoilers. I’m also not a doctor and not intending to come off as diagnosing fictional characters.

In that scene in the pilot where Lizzie is screaming and breaking things because she’s upset about being rejected by Rafael, I couldn’t help but think it seemed more like an autistic meltdown than a bipolar episode. A lot of her behaviour in that episode in particular stands out to me as being neurodivergent-coded, like saying inappropriate things and being extremely sensitive to rejection.

I really see a lot of my undiagnosed teenage self in her. I was diagnosed ADHD as an adult and I strongly suspect I’m also autistic but I’ll probably never get formally assessed. Her obsession with control and her own image remind me a lot of my own masking behaviours, especially when I was younger.

I can also see the Josie/Lizzie dynamic as paralleling the dynamics that often happen in families where one sibling is neurodivergent and has more visible symptoms and support needs while the other is either neurotypical or undiagnosed with lower support needs and higher masking.

Also, neurodivergence often runs in families and Kai reads as extremely ADHD-coded to me, which is probably because his actor has the diagnosis according to Wikipedia.

Bipolar disorder is a very common misdiagnosis for neurodivergent girls, especially ADHD because our hyperactivity and impulsivity can look similar to mania or hypomania. She says she doesn’t want to take her bipolar meds because she feels they don’t help her, which could potentially point towards it being a misdiagnosis. Granted, based on my very basic non-professional knowledge of bipolar (as in I’ve read a couple online articles, known a couple of people with it, and seen comments from bipolar people saying they don’t feel Lizzie’s portrayal is accurate), I really don’t think the writers researched it very well.

I’m so curious if anybody else sees it too.


r/LegaciesCW 22d ago

Discussion The witches in all three series. (TVD, TO, Legacies)

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r/LegaciesCW 23d ago

Discussion Do you think legacies would have been better if it had taken place in a normal high school with Josie Lizzie and hope managing their supernatural secrets while doing school stuff?

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As a fan myself, I wonder if the series could have been better if it was more focused on a plot in a normal school rather than a supernatural school. But you guys tell me.


r/LegaciesCW 24d ago

Discussion Hope Mikaelson vs Bonnie Bennett

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Remember this is just for fun, It’s not that serious to me at least and it shouldn’t be to you, these are fictional characters

I don’t care what writers say so I won’t be using their statements for any arguments if i think it’s relevant it’ll be brought up

MAGIC

Hope is a first born Mikaelson witch they possess devastating power, She has in universe and even writer statements confirming she’s the most powerful supernatural in the verse and unlike what many who try to lowball her will claim she has the feats to back up these claims as I’ve listed them here

Bonnie has in universe statements saying she’s the most powerful witch in the verse, Cade the devil a 4,000 year old psychic made such claims and he knew of many powerful witches some will claim he knew of Hope when she was five I don’t think there’s any evidence for this but sure why not, Bonnie being stronger than a literal child isn’t a flex it’s almost pathetic like wow she’s stronger than a five year old obviously, However besides as a kid, Hope is still stronger even if we argue they’re equal magically on top of her impressive magical prowess Hope has the blood of an original hybrid, his original vampire siblings her werewolf mother, the hollow and Esther who created the vampire species coursing through her veins

Papa Tunde and Finn were able to channel originals and become nearly unstoppable now that Hope is a tribrid she has access to this overwhelming power and could potentially channel her own magical reservoirs to grant herself even more power, but even before transition it’s likely she could do this

Witches can gain power boosts from anger Bonnie herself has done this a couple times, Hope is a werewolf a species known for their anger
If she gets pissed off her already high power would be boosted to even greater heights

Hope was able to hurt Klaus and Elijah at only 15 and she’s only grown in power since in the same season she does this, She also killed dozens of vampires by shooting a wave of magic at them Hope is able to knockout four originals, Klaus, Elijah, Rebekah, Kol and Marcel who was stronger than Klaus and she was fine after, no fatigue, no nose bleeds, nothing taking down five ultra powerful vampires and being fine after is incredibly impressive

Could Hope kill an original with raw power alone? I think yes considering her birth was used in a spell to revive one and that she easily overpowers four of them and Marcel who was an upgraded original stronger than Klaus, This puts Hope on par with a hundred witches the same power Bonnie had when she could’ve killed Klaus on top of this Hopes power can be boosted by her anger and she could potentially channel her own original vampire blood to further boost her power on top of this

Bonnie at 17 was barely able to do anything to Klaus before her power was boosted by a hundred dead witches, which yes gave her the power to kill him but that doesn’t count since her power was boosted by outside forces, Bonnie doesn’t have any major fights with Klaus after. She traps him in a room which doesn’t confirm she could take him in a fight, Silas was stronger Klaus and Bonnie was able to turn him to stone the spell was tied to her life, She was only able to do this because she was using expression but after she came back she stopped using it and wouldn’t ever use it again
There’s zero evidence the heretics scale to original vampire levels or higher, they’re all very arrogant downright narcissistic so their claims that they’re the most powerful creatures on earth can be disregarded

Bonnie destroying hell a feat that has a bunch of holes in it the longer you think of it but besides that let’s go with that she did, the hellfire coming out was stated to destroy mystic falls and I believe a few miles past it so for sake of simplicity I’ll say it’s city busting

However it’s important to remember although Bonnie was able to momentarily hold it off on her own she needed the help of basically her entire ancestry to send it back at best the feat scales Bonnie to town busting still very impressive, What I don’t understand is why people make it out to be her most impressive feat it’s not she has way more impressive feats

Why it wasn’t emotional support. You’ll often here Bonnie stans say she didn’t actually receive any help from spirits, their argument is that since the other side was destroyed therefore they couldn’t be actual spirits, the problem with this argument is it completely ignores that Limbo exists, An afterlife we know supernaturals go to and the fact Bonnie didn’t know most of the people that showed up when you make a case but you deliberately omit the facts that don’t support it, your case is automatically wrong this is known as the cherrypicking fallacy

When she transitioned into the tribrid Hope turned the sky red and caused a huge storm with lightning rapidly shooting out
Even at her strongest Bonnie was never able to do this even when she was exerting herself this never happened but Hope was able to do it by casually existing and toying with Malivore, she wasn’t exerting herself she’s just so powerful that she can cause storms and change the color of the sky without doing anything major, Series finale Bonnie with her town busting power using all her might with help from her entire family bloodline wasn’t able to do this and her with expression a magic so powerful that many witches discredit it couldn’t do it either but Hope did without exerting herself at all

In Legacies Season 4 Alaric says Hope might be the most powerful supernatural to ever exist he knows Bonnie, He knew of Qetsiyah who created the Otherside and he knew of Cade the creator of Hell so this statement alone confirms she’s stronger than her and yes if you’re wondering this lines up perfectly with statements from the writers about Hope being the most powerful in
the verse

Hope’s base level could be equal to Bonnie’s however she can more reliably get anger boosts due to her werewolf temper, she could also potentially channel her own original blood into her magic meaning even if Hope and Bonnie are equal at base, Hope has ways to boost her power and that’s why Hope takes magic

STRENGTH/SPEED

Automatically goes to Hope without her magic Bonnie is just a human, She doesn’t have super strength or super speed

Hope is able to easily fight Aurora a character who is on par with an Original , Given dialogue from both Hope and Aurora, Hope is clearly the stronger of the two

Klaus has a feat where he dodges a point blank explosion giving him faster than sound reaction and movements speed it’s possible Hope could do this, Hope is a tribrid who is consistently compared to originals, Josie says she’s basically an original now and she fights Aurora who’s basically an original so she’s definitely on that level

INTELLIGENCE/KNOWLEDGE

Hope practiced magic with Freya who is a thousand years old, She passed her knowledge down to Hope, Hope has understood how magic operates and has even made her own spells and even before practicing with Freya she had a better understanding of magic than Bonnie did first starting out

In contrast Bonnie didn’t fully understand magic until 8x16 the series finale, Hopes understanding of how magic works is on par with people like Freya and Davina witches who fully understand the inner workings of magic, Bonnie didn’t get to this level of understanding until the end of the vampire diaries, Hope was there at 15 if not younger, her knowledge about it can only go up from here considering she’s immortal

Caroline even said Hope is too smart for her own good

EXPERIENCE

Bonnie takes experience she’s older than Hope and she’s fought against incredibly powerful foes like Klaus, Silas, Heretics and Cade although Hope has a better or on par understanding of magic than endgame Bonnie, Bonnie’s experience is better

Her control over magic is also better, We’ve seen magic explode out of Hope when her emotions overwhelm her, Early on Bonnie had poor magic control but she overcame it and yes Hope will objectively gain better control in time but as it stands right now Bonnie takes experience

BONNIE | DIMENSIONAL SCALING

Bonnie was able to create a dimension of unknown size after Enzo died by screaming regardless of its size or scale, This feat is an incredibly impressive and is definitely her best one

However the feat isn’t all that meaningful when you consider a dimension doesn’t define any specific amount of area and without statements we have nothing to conclude its size from and because of that the feat is meaningless

The dimension could be only as large as the immediate space around Bonnie, It could the size of a house, a city etc, we have no idea how big it is and because there’s no way to quantify the feat it doesn’t mean anything beyond being cool

but being cool doesn’t equate to being powerful
the better argument for Bonnie being dimensional is her creating a prison world with help, There’s reason to believe the sun at the very least is real as Bonnie a pretty intelligent character believed the sun in the 1994 prison world would kill Damon If it was just an illusion it couldn’t do this, The prison world Bonnie created in season 8 also has a sun, a moon and stars in its sky

If the prisons world sun isn’t real then Bonnie is creating a space as large as the Earth, If it is real and there’s reason to believe it is then Bonnie scales to star level if all the stars we see are real then Bonnie scales to universal but believing Bonnie is universal is crazy

HOPE | DIMENSIONAL SCALING

Hope with some help was able to create prison world, Now there’s a lot of debate of how big prison worlds are, I’ll lowball them first

Let’s say prison worlds are only as big as Earth and the sun or moon seen in the sky aren’t actually real, they’re merely images creating a planet sized pocket dimension is still impressive

But now to high ball their size, which is actually the better argument in my eyes in TVD season 6 while still in the 94 prison world after getting sick of Damon’s whining Bonnie tells him to take his ring off saying if ur life is this miserable why don’t u end it, She believes the sun there would kill Damon the same way the real sun would and Bonnie isn’t stupid so for her to believe this it must be true, If the prison worlds sun is real then it’s moon by logic must be real too and any stars in the sky, the closest star to earths sun proxima centuari is 4.25 light years away and is outside our solar system and other stars are even further than that

If the sun isn’t real Hope is planetary, If only the sun is real then Hope scales to star level if all the stars are real then Hope scales to universal
Hope is the most powerful witch in any given room so it makes sense for her to be doing the heavy lifting same logic applies to Bonnie

Yes Bonnie in season 8 with help created a prison world too, So yes this potential star level or beyond scaling would apply to her too

HOPE | UNIVERSAL SCALING

There are many statements basically confirming the Malivore dimension is infinite in scale, It’s called eternal, endless so that’s just fact, Here’s why Hope might be universal as established the dimension inside Malivore is infinite, Hope later destroys him and the dimension or more accurately described universe that’s inside him
you must have infinite power to destroy a space of infinite size no matter what its contents are, its math

Now someone could argue that it was Hopes blood that killed him this is true however it doesn’t contradict the scaling it only means Hope has to channel her blood to gain infinite magic
Even if we argue it’s because her blood is a loophole this would still scale past infinity because her blood can just bypass an infinite dimension and she could still channel it, the only thing that can bypass infinity is another higher infinity

There’s no reason to believe the statements about the malivore dimension are exaggerated or false
there’s nothing contradicting them and similar statements were never made for smaller dimensions, no one ever claimed any prison world is endless these statements are exclusive to the malivore dimension and because there’s nothing contradicting it and the characters don’t have any history of using similar terms to describe dimensions that turned out smaller, we have no reason beyond personal preference to believe they aren’t true

THE MOST REALISTIC SCENARIO

Hope Mikaelson wins low difficulty Hope given the reasons I’ve named is more powerful than Bonnie, She’s confirmed to be by characters who know Bonnie and she has the feats despite what many will claim to back it up, Hope casually caused storms and turned the sky blood red meanwhile Bonnie at her strongests couldn’t do this even when exerting herself and with backup from the entire Bennett bloodline, But even if they’re equals in raw magical power (they aren’t) Hope as I’ve argued before has ways to boost her power more reliably than Bonnie does, Hope’s understanding of magic is better or at least on par with series finale Bonnie considering she practiced with Freya giving her another edge, Hope also has a strength and speed advantage she’s compared to originals so it makes sense she could pull of similar feats like when Klaus avoided an explosion, Hope is also smarter her intelligence has been compared to her father who we know is smarter than Bonnie

In order for Bonnie to win she would have to overcome a gap in magic, physical strength and speed, intelligence and knowledge all at once and in the short amount of time she has she couldn’t do it

OTHER SCENARIOS

Hope Mikaelson without universal but with dimensional scaling wins low difficulty due to her massive magic, strength and speed advantage, her better understanding of magic or at least on par and her potential ability to channel her own vampire blood and be boosted by her anger

Hope Mikaelson with universal scaling wins negative difficulty I don’t need to explain this one

I find it interesting that Bonnie stans are saying I’m downplaying Bonnie when I’ve literally argued she’s star level or even higher, I applied the argument I made for Hope being on this scale to Bonnie, “Yes Bonnie in season 8 with help created a prison world too, So yes this potential star level or beyond scaling would apply to her too”

I have now edited the post to make this more clear, I shouldn’t have to but I have.

OVERALL

There’s a massive difference in power between them, Hope Mikaelson takes magic, strength, speed and knowledge giving her an easy victory over Bonnie Bennett the fight isn’t even close, Bonnie simply doesn’t have the feats or statements to back up her even a standing a chance a against Hope even Bonnie at her strongest her using expressions and her in the series finale falls to Hope Mikaelson


r/LegaciesCW 25d ago

Question Question as I’ve never seen legacies

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I’m currently rewatching the vampire diaries for the millionth time and I’m wondering if Lizzie and Josie ever talk about being kidnapped/babysat the siren Seline?


r/LegaciesCW 26d ago

Discussion Lizzie’s wasted potential

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I’ve already said this under a Reddit post but I can’t help but think about how when I think about Lizzie's character I honestly feel so bad for her wasted potential, especially with the shows ending. Not only did they constantly remind the audience that she was the "weaker twin" (which I know is very integral to the plot) but they never really exhibit her true capabilities. Especially when you think about the fact the show runners chose Josie to be cursed and become "dark" rather than the unstable, underrated twin who everyone saw as an easy feat for Josie in the merge. I think it's crazy too how spell casting for witches utilizes heavy emotions to make the spells more powerful, yet Lizzie, who is literally bipolar, never once has an instance that shows that her emotional instability allows her magic to exceed a level of power that her sister has reached. Her character development is great and | liked seeing her as a heretic but I feel that the show runners missed out on countless opportunities and when they finally realized it was too late.

Anyone with similar ideas?


r/LegaciesCW 28d ago

Discussion School merch

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Why does the Salvatore School have SO MUCH MERCH? No real uniforms, but so many different logo-ed clothes, badges, etc. (I know the answer is "it's not a real school").


r/LegaciesCW Jun 21 '26

Discussion Legacies Had a Major Casting Problem

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Something I've noticed while watching Legacies is that it felt like the show struggled to keep interesting recurring characters around. Whether it was because actors left, contracts ended, or the writers simply moved on from them, a lot of characters seemed to disappear right when they were becoming interesting. 

For example, the actor who played Sebastian, Thomas Doherty, left the show and I think went on to play Max Wolfe in the Gossip Girl reboot. I'm also pretty sure the actress who played Penelope left to return to a show she had been on before Legacies.

It feels like the same thing happened with several other characters too, like Jade, Josie, Rafael, Alyssa, and Ethan's sister Maya. A lot of these characters seemed like they had more story left to tell, only for them to disappear not long after becoming relevant.

I don't know, I just find it really strange. As someone who doesn't know much about the ins and outs of TV production, is this a normal thing or did Legacies just have a case of bad luck.


r/LegaciesCW Jun 22 '26

Discussion Spoilers below : Happy Father's Day to Alaric " Ric " Saltzman :) >> Spoiler

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Spoilers? I really liked Ric as the protective father of Josie and Lizzie. I felt he did the best that he could do in raising them, protecting them and in advising them. He had no Supernatural powers of his own but he did the best he could. He was also very fatherly and protective of Hope as well. I liked his character.
Spoiler: I still get choked up, misty eyed, when I rewatch the episode wherein his late wife comes back, his beautiful wife Josette . She gets to finally see and say good-bye to her daughters. I also get a bit emotional rewatching Ric and Jo's wedding in TVD , she looked so beautiful in her wedding dress. It was a beautiful scene until that shocking and devastating ending.


r/LegaciesCW Jun 21 '26

Theory Hope has two different strains of wolf venom? Spoiler

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I’m rewatching The Originals and am on the episode in the first season where Davina is hemorrhaging magic and Klaus takes Hayley to the church to show her he’s been helping his own clan. It reminds me of the fact that Lucien hunted down the 7 different strains of wolf venom. Hayley’s pack has one strain and Klaus’ pack has a different one right? So Hope, having both of their genetics, has both of their strains right? I just thought of this, am I wrong? If she does have both of their strains, could her blood possibly be a cure for Lucien and eventually Marcel’s venom? I’ve had a theory that Klaus is immune to their venom bc he has one of the strains so it’s different for him and they never actually tested it. Idk if it’s a cure but I think he is immune. So Hope having two strains, would that mean she’s the cure? Just in theory since it never happens.