(Maybe pun intended)

• In the last couple of weeks man videos have surfaced, both from big forza creators (Blackpanthaa, AR12, Yuan Thayakaran, LPN05) and from many small creators as well, adressing the issue that FH6 became incredibly stale and boring after only 2 months after release. Remembering the last 5 titles this never happend so fast. And if i would be working at Playground Games or Turn 10, i had no other choice than to do something about it. And knowing PGG and T10 are very close to these guys (AR12 specifically):

Do you guys think, that they take this serious, listen to the criticism, adress it and change/implement things in the future?

Would like to know your point of view. Wish you all the best •

It looks depressing. The only thing that's improved over the years is the graphics.

I as taking a photoshoot of Dream Project S15 Silvia from the time attack pack, and I noticed that there was this AI generated sticker on the wing, it's really small where you dont notice it, but at the same time it's just uncanny to see that in this game

I had a really good feeling about this when initially reading the patch notes, and the last week or so of gameplay confirmed my suspicions. There are really two big ways in which it massively improved the gameplay experience:

1. It more or less eliminated the insanely brainrot activity of sniping cars from the auction house. Prior to the update, some of the most sought-after cars (mostly wheelspin exclusives) simply did not ever appear in the AH because they were worth far more to players than their list price, and on the rare occasions they did appear, you had to overtake dozens of other players in fast menuing (a ridiculously stupid still which is also dependent on your internet latency) to grab one. Now that the price cap is 20 million, pretty much every car is available in great quantities, and it's just a question of whether you can afford to bid for them.

2. It put a hard price of 20 million credits (or less, depending on auction listings) to buy literally any car in the game you'd want, including the wheelspin exclusives and cars whose list price in the autoshow is higher than 20 million (Mercedes 300 SLR, Ferrari P3 etc). Pro tip, btw: the exclusives that people restart the game over and over to get in the Italian dealership are frequently available in the auction house for far less than 20 million. I think I got the 599XX Evo and the Sesto Elemento for 5 or 6 million each.

Essentially, if you want a specific car, your challenge has changed from being doomed to refresh the auction house for literal weeks trying to snipe one (because, again, no one would ever list a Rimac Nevera for its pre-update price cap), to getting 15-20 million credits in any way you'd want. Which is still very difficult given how stingy the game is with credits (unless you wheelspin-farm, which I'm definitely not against), but at least it involves playing the game. That's a win in my book. If that means those who stockpiled exclusive cars pre-update got rich off of it, then so be it.

Am I the only one who thinks the Italian Exotics Dealer event is actually terrible?

On paper it sounds great. They say you'll finally have a chance to buy cars that were previously locked behind Wheelspins.

The problem is those rare cars almost never show up.

Some people get lucky and find them right away. Everyone else is stuck restarting the game over and over hoping the dealership finally refreshes with the car they want. On top of that, people are constantly joining and leaving convoys because that's another way to try to refresh the dealership. Even then, if you end up with the same convoy leader, the dealership is usually exactly the same, so you just wasted your time.

What's the point of replacing one luck based system with another?

At least with a Wheelspin, if you don't get the car you wanted, you move on and actually play the game. This event has people sitting in menus, restarting the game, joining and leaving convoys, and spending more time trying to force a dealership refresh than actually driving.

The whole point of this event was supposedly to give players another way to get these rare Wheelspin cars. But how are we supposed to get them if they almost never appear? If the only way is to spend hours restarting the game and hopping between convoys hoping to get lucky, then it doesn't really solve anything. It just replaces one frustrating system with another.

This isn't rewarding. It just feels like the same problem in a different form, except somehow even more frustrating with elevated FOMO.

Whats the technique for this tune? it either spins oit or slams into and up walls. I can drift all the proper drift cars to 300k but cant get 350k. how are u suppose to control.this thing?

Hi everyone,

As you probably know, it's not possible to set Geometry Quality to Ultra or Extreme if Textures are set to High.

I tried to bypass this by manually editing the UserConfigSelections config file located at:

C:\Users\NAME\AppData\Local\ForzaHorizon6\LocalStorage_Shared\ForzaUserConfigSelections

I set the following line to 5, which corresponds to Extreme Geometry Quality:

<option id="GeometryQuality" value="5"/>

At the same time, I kept:

<option id="EnvStreamingTex" value="2"/>

set to 2 so that Textures remain on High.

I also have to keep Shaders on High, otherwise there's a bug where trees don't appear on distant hills when using High Textures.

It kind of works... but it also doesn't.

As you can see in the video, some objects, such as trees, disappear as I get closer to them, sometimes becoming completely invisible. Strangely enough, they can suddenly reappear if I crash into them.

Does anyone have any idea whether it's possible to fix this through the same UserConfigSelections file? If so, which setting would need to be changed, and to what value?

Thanks in advance for any help!

I'm pretty rubbish at this but feel free to roast it.

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I am wondering because I was going to try and go through convoys to get them at the dealer.

Or will the exotics dealer change the rotation of cars when the season changes

I’d hate to start all that effort just for them to only be playlist only cars

TLDR: After 180 hours my cloud save is corrupted. DONT completly delete your local save files while troubleshooting. COPY it to a different folder.

Story Time:
So after moving to Germany I kept playing forza on my steamdeck on my phones hotspot while I waited for my internet to get setup. Dumb, I know but boredom does things to people.

I tried to exit the game like normal with Exit & Sync when my phone shit the bed and my steamdeck lost connection while sync was going. Suffice to say next time I tried to connect I got message “Your previous device is still uploading your game save” and error E0-19-12. Cloud Save cooked.

I reached out to Forza Support and they had me run through their troubleshooting. Which for steamdeck their second step after verifying files is “Delete Proton Files”. For those that dont have a steamdeck this basically deletes all your windows files which include your SAVE FILE. I knew about this so I copied the save file as a precaution. How fortunate I did because after all that it still didnt work.

Next step after they determined that their troubleshooting didn’t work and my cloud save was completely FUBAR was to have me go through the processs of deleting my save files from everywhere including the cloud by following Step 3 in Lost Save Article. The steps for steam version didn’t work so I pulled my wallet out and bought Game Pass Ultimate so I could delete from Cloud Gaming.

Didn’t work.

At this point my steamdeck was the only device that had a save file with all my progress. Which stupidly enough I could still play online if I launch the game with Wifi off but turn it back on after starting offline mode but before clicking continue in the main menu.

Today I finally had time and was able to setup my PC in Germany after my things arrived and tried to copy my save file from the steamdeck to the PC. It works the exact same way. I have to launch it with the ethernet cable unplugged(or adapter disabled. Either works). I can still play the game and enjoy it but I basically am back in the stone age of gaming where the save file is on the cartridge. (Pokemon still does it the same way -_-)

The only way I see them fixing this is if they completely nuke the cloud save and allow me to manually sync my local save. Which is the cherry on top because the game does have that option. Except its only available as long as there is no corrupted cloud save or like me that the cloud is waiting on a previous device.

Catch-22.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

I’m not able to Auction or Gift the Evija Forza Edition or the Viper GTS ACR Forza Edition, I’m getting the “This car cannot be gifted, pls select another car”.

I usually play on Expert difficulty and upped it to unbeatable just for the races and it doesn’t seem to have changed anything.

hi! so I have come to the conclusion why FH6 burned me out not even a week into the first playlist and have it uninstalled for now:

Certain activities are mandatory and theres only a single week you have to do those activities before you are locked out of getting a car for months to even years. other live service games, like Overwatch which is my main game right now are nowhere near this strict.

the only gameplay-based fomo mechanic OW has is the battle pass and event challenges, where the latter only reward really minor things. difference is:

battle pass is 8-10 weeks long, and you have that whole time to complete it.

events like Summer Games and halloween etc. last 3 weeks at least and dont give legendary skins most of the time.

the only FOMO remotely comparable to Forza Horizon‘s strictness is the skin shop, which last 2 weeks but rhey are bought with IRL money and dont require multiple hours a week to earn.

i feel FH6 needs to rethink the playlist feature. It is WAY too strict, both time-based and fun-factor. It is probably the only live service game I played that really in a literal sense, felt like a 9-5 job, in the sense of how fun it is even. i DO NOT find the current playlist system fun whatsoever and it led me to uninstall indefinitely because I don’t find sniping the auction house fun either.
thoughts?

I just reviewed a lot of numbers and came to the conclusion that most of us will not obtain all of the wheelspin exclusive cars through wheelspins. It requires a really obscene amount of playtime unless you farm wheelspins as a job.

TLDR -- between 4000 and 10000 wheelspins (counting super spins as 3) to get one of each exclusive car (5% likely to 95% likely).

The math:

At the moment, there are 46 cars listed as wheelspin exclusives. How many spins do I need before I get at least one of each car? This is the "coupon collector's problem," and it has a defined solution. The average (mean) number of spins before I have collected each car is 203. If you're the luckiest person in the universe (truly), it may be under 50 spins. If you're the exact opposite, you may spin the wheel 100 times a minute until The Elder Scrolls 10 is released and still be missing a car or two. For the rest of us, about a 50% chance you'll be done after about 200 spins, and 95% chance after about 300 spins.

But wait! Not every spin gives an exclusive car! Reviewing the numbers from this post by u/EchoLimaTango shows that wheelspin-exclusive cars are the reward about 3% of the time (pretty close to what I have found in a measly 285 spins, counting super wheelspins as 3). You need to spin that wheel about 6700 times to reach the 200ish samples of the 46 cars to be just 50% sure you caught 'em all (you'll get plenty of duplicates, though) Woo-hoo! The target is in sight! If I get to spin a couple of times an hour (including those super wheelspins), I probably will be done in a little more than 3000 hours of game play!! It might take as many as 5000 hours, or more if my luck is shit! If you're really lucky, only 2000 hours (about 4000 spins to be 5% sure of getting each car once)

Note, these calculations make the assumption that each wheelspin-exclusive car has the same odds of dropping. Probably not the actual case.

Also note that I let the Chrome AI help me out with the calculations, since I'm old, tired, and no longer interested in doing stats on paper. AI did not write the text here. Also since I'm old and tired, I'm going to bed now. 😄 😴

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Edit to add:

Some commentors seem to think I'm ranting about the game or making an unfair criticism given their own experiences in collecting cars. Not true. I absolutely love this game. The map and imagery are gorgeous (so much dopamine from just driving around and looking!), and the regular game play is outstanding. I also enjoy discovering the underlying mechanics of the games I play, and learning how the wheel spins work is fairly straightforward. However, now that I've done the math, I find it remarkable just how long the odds are when we're talking about wheelspin-exclusive cars.

If you want to get some more insight into how the wheelspin mechanic works, read about gacha games. The wheelspins fit the concept to a tee; I find it strange to have that sort of mechanic in a game that isn't "freemium." I know the wheelspins have been around for at least 4 FH games, but the current probabilities have pushed things toward the unpleasant side of gacha.

Sick of how it looks with the usual tap steering. Trying to teach myself roll steering, seems like the settings don’t cater much to using the analog stick that way and inner dead zone has no effect as the stick is always outside

Anyone on here that has it down and what steering linearity do you use

Would be much appreciated for some tips

I put quite some time into designing this and tried to design a circuit that feels somewhat purpoise-built, somewhat city-circuit and a bit of TT-like.

Not quite happy with the two chicanes, maybe you guys have suggestions?

I wanted to make them more of an overtake spot, rather than "slow you down a bit sweeper" chicanes.

Recently was listening to some music while cruising in my Dino and all of sudden the game was playing a song about salami and stuff. Any insight?

Hi guys, I’ve been playing FH6 these past few days, and suddenly the trigger vibration stopped working. I’ve tried a lot of things: disconnecting and reconnecting the controller, changing the controller’s batteries, and connecting it via cable, but nothing has solved the problem.

I’m playing on PC with an original Xbox controller. I’d really appreciate it if anyone could help me.

Over the last week I've been wheelspin farming and I noticed a clear pattern: as my garage grew and the number of unobtained cars dwindled, I nevertheless never got a single duplicate Legendary or Epic in a wheelspin, and commons and rares only starting duplicating once I collected almost all of them. I've been suspecting that wheelspins are programmed to avoid duplicates as much as possible since it makes perfect sense for casual players (getting a new car, no matter how cheap, feels far better than a duplicate early on), but I got almost 100% confirmation of that once I got the Nissan 240SX (for the first time since the game came out), flipped it on the auction house for 20mil... and immediately got another one in the very next set of wheelspins. I've repeated this 3 more times just to be sure. It must be because the game knows it's the only Epic car I don't have in my garage at the time I spin the wheel.

This means obtaining all wheelspin exclusive cars is actually a doable task with enough farming, as the odds of getting a Legendary car are (in my estimation) one in 40-50 wheelspins (so 13-17 supers), and the car is removed from the wheelspin pool once collected. Note that this rule is only hard-applied to Legendaries and maybe Forza Editions - commons and rares started duplicating for me about 2/3s of the way through the collection, though the new ones kept showing up at a steady rate until I completed the set.

Went to the attic to search for a watch and found this old steel book case of the og horizon.
Even forgot I still had it.

Might even dig up the good old 360 to see how it was 😄

Sourced from the official Forza Horizon Twitter account: https://x.com/ForzaHorizon/status/2079604681693671476?s=20