r/Equestrian • u/Thin_Championship_58 • 9h ago
Ethics Controversial Take - Branding for Safety
Skip to the end if you don't want to read the rationale and idea behind this.
I am in progress of going 'more reputable' seeing as coming back after 5 years there is a lot of difference in the horse market and community than when I left. One hand I am very glad to see more welfare coming into the forefront but also a little concerned with the anthropomorphism that is around the edges and social media push for the abolishment of sport in general with horses. As well as the public shaming for people doing the best with what they have. All of that aside, lets go make myself a devil.
I am pro-brand vs microchip but also double up on kinds of identification and tracking. I am working towards registering a brand with the state(Oregon) researching legalities, and requirements, so that horses that I feel are solid and good to go out into the wild beyond have a in-your-face identification to be able to be traced back to me later on.
I have seen the power of this in these forums, and elsewhere that someone trying to find information on a gift horse, an auction horse, or rescue "Does anyone know this brand" usually it ends up good. The information on the animal is documented such as age and original owner. Unlike papers, a brand cannot be lost unless you're a monster that slices the hide off a horse. Unlike a microchip, it cannot migrate and even the most rural people have one eye to see a brand vs even knowing that people microchip horses.
Those kinds of people, will own horses and as bad as it sounds we can't stop them. They also likely won't want to buy equipment, know anyone who has a scanner, or want to take the horse to a vet because that 'costs money' to get an appointment and trailer them there, they don't want to invest. But, they likely will have google, and again---trace a brand back. These are the kinds of people that sometimes end up with your horse no matter how good you try to home them, once they leave your hands you don't have control any longer. Forever homing isn't something I plan on doing, I want to help more than just one for the next 20 years.
I don't breed my own, though I might someday with a mare or stud that I really, really, like mean REALLY like that hit all the right marks have my own singular foal but I can't even think of a horse even in the last 30 years that made me go "yeah lets breed that".
So most of the horses I get are market cast offs, usually mixed breed, heinz 57, no history that you can track down, plain, bay chestnut. Back field for 10 years. Cheap, under 1200 dollars I usually aim for 500$. So these aren't usually someones well bred AQHA or exotic Warmblood with a breeder in the wings somewhere hoping the best. They are probably someones personal emotional pairing baby, or just a 'what if COLOR?' pairing that didn't pan out. Effectively, no name no care horses.
TLDR;
So while I am almost 100% sure I am going to go forward on this, I do want to hear what roadblocks people could think of that I haven't found yet. Pros and cons that you can think of that aren't about 'its ugly, or its abusive, or selfish. I have the LLC, it was perpetual anyway, and I have the website that needs to be taken off hiatus, but going the step further with a brand is a new one. Curious what things I could be missing here, or insights that I haven't considered yet.
End TLDR -- LOL This is just conversation starts.
The biggest ones, is branding a horse and then finding out months, or years later that the papers do surface and legality gets involved. Has anyone dealt with this? Or if the brand inspection office might have an answer here? (Ill find out shortly when I start my first rounds of calls.)
What kinds of shows are you familiar with that a brand would negatively affect the horse's ability to show well? I don't see a cow hocked, pig eye'd mare with no mane for example showing up in a halter class. But she might show up in a pony club hunter over fences. Would this negatively impact her, and the owner?
When looking at brands, if there is a choice of placement, (I am not keen on under saddle, or on the face) would you prefer hip, shoulder, top of hip, or beside tail?
Thank you for the discussion anyone who chimes in! Picture for attention.
** EDIT
I thank EVERYONE that has commented in on this, I really, really appreciate every bit of information that has been brought forward, I am going to get back out to the barn now that its not 90 degrees and humid, but I will try to respond to anyone who answers during that time. Please take care of yourselves out there, and I appreciate it so much to get the different perspectives.
