r/depression Oct 29 '19

Our most-broken and least-understood rules is "helpers may not invite private contact as a first resort", so we've made a new wiki to explain it

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We understand that most people who reply immediately to an OP with an invitation to talk privately mean only to help, but this type of response usually leads to either disappointment or disaster. it usually works out quite differently here than when you say "PM me anytime" in a casual social context.

We have huge admiration and appreciation for the goodwill and good citizenship of so many of you who support others here and flag inappropriate content - even more so because we know that so many of you are struggling yourselves. We're hard at work behind the scenes on more information and resources to make it easier to give and get quality help here - this is just a small start.

Our new wiki page explains in detail why it's much better to respond in public comments, at least until you've gotten to know someone. It will be maintained at /r/depression/wiki/private_contact, and the full text of the current version is below.


Summary

Anyone who, while acting as a helper, invites or accepts private contact (I.e. PMs, chat, or any kind of offsite communication) early in the conversion is showing either bad intentions or bad judgement. Either way, it's unwise to trust them.

"PM me anytime" seems like a kind and generous offer. And it might be perfectly well-meaning, but, unless and until a solid rapport has been established, it's just not a wise idea. Here are some points to consider before you offer or accept an invitation to communicate privately.

  • By posting supportive replies publicly, you'll help more people than just the OP. If your responses are of good quality, you'll educate and inspire other helpers. The 1-9-90 rule applies here as much as it does anywhere else on the internet.

  • People who are struggling with serious mental-health issues often (justifiably) have a low tolerance for disappointment and a high-level of ever-changing emotional need. Unless the helper is able to make a 100% commitment to be there for them in every way, for as long as necessary, offering a personal inbox as a resource is likely to do more harm than good. This is why mental-health crisis-line responders usually don't give their names and callers aren't allowed to request specific responders. It's much healthier and safer for the callers to develop a relationship with the agency as a whole. Analogously, it's much safer and healthier for our OPs to develop a relationship with the community as a whole. Even trained responders are generally not allowed to work high-intensity situations alone. It's partly about availability, but it's mostly about wider perspective and preventing compassion fatigue.

  • If a helper gets in over their head with someone whose mental-health issues (including suicidality, which is often comorbid with depression) escalate, in a PM conversation it's much harder for others, including the /r/depression and /r/SuicideWatch moderators to help. (Contrary to common assumptions, moderators can't see or police PMs.)

  • In our observation over many years, the people who say "PM me" the most are consistently the ones with the least understanding of mental-health issues and mental-health support. We all have gaps in our knowledge and in our ability to communicate effectively. Community input mitigates these limitations. There's no reason why someone who's truly here to help would want to hide their responses from community scrutiny. If helpers are concerned about their own privacy, keep in mind that self-disclosure, when used supportively, is more about the feelings than the details, and that we have no problem here with the use of alt/throwaway accounts, and have no restrictions on account age or karma.

  • We all know the internet is used by some people to exploit or abuse others. These people do want to hide their deceptive and manipulative responses from everyone except their victims. There are many of them who specifically target those who are vulnerable because of mental-health issues. If a helper invites an OP to talk privately and gives them a good, supportive experience, they've primed that person to be more vulnerable to abusers. This sort of cognitive priming tends to be particularly effective when someone's in a state of mental-health crisis, when people rely more on heuristics than critical reasoning.

  • If OPs want to talk privately, posting on a wide-open anonymous forum like reddit might not be the best option. Although we don't recommend it, we do allow OPs to request private contact when asking for support. If you want to do this, please keep your expectations realistic, and to have a careful look at the history of anyone who offers to PM before opening up to them.


r/depression May 18 '26

Check-In post, with essential info about our policies and resources. Most people are surprised by much of this information, please read carefully before posting or commenting

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Welcome to /r/depression's check-in post - a place to take a moment and share what is going on and how you are doing. If you're having a tough time but prefer not to make your own post, or have an accomplishment you want to talk about (these aren't allowed standalone posts in the sub as they violate the "role model" rule), this is a place you can share.


Our subreddit rules are very different from most of the rest of reddit! Since all of them exist for important reasons, we ask everyone here to read and follow them. Please click 'report' on any harmful content you see here - we always want to know and deal as soon as we can.

We also have several resource wikis for help with finding and giving support:

https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/what_is_depression provides guidance about what is and isn't a depressive disorder, guidance on the complex nature of the illnesses that are usually grouped under the "depression" label, and redirect information for common off-topic issues.

https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/giving_help offers information on the nature and value of peer support for mental-health issues in general, and lots of guidance for learning what is -- and isn't -- usually helpful in giving peer support.

YSK that the types of rule violations that we most frequently see here are:

  • People breaking the private contact rule. You should never trust anyone who tries to get you into a private conversation in response to a post here. See https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/private_contact

  • "I'm here to help" posts. This shows that you don't understand the most basic principles of peer support, especially selectivity. The "giving help" wiki explains more about this.

  • Role modelling, i.e. "achievement" or "advice" posts. This is an expert-free zone -- that's what peer support means (rule 5). We know that "internet culture" celebrate not just bragging about your achievements but bragging about your intentions. Neither is ever acceptable here in any form.

  • Content that's more about 'making a statement' or casually polling the sub than seeking personal support (rules 1, 2 and 10).

  • Off-topic posts about difficult situations, including interpersonal issues. Grief, sadness, anger, loneliness and other difficult emotions are not mental illnesses. Feelings that can be explained by person's circumstances are perfectly healthy no matter how painful they are. A depressive disorder only exists when someone's mood is out of synch with what's going on for them. The "what is depression" wiki linked above has suggestions for other places to post about these issues, which are 100% valid and serious but do NOT belong here.


r/depression 4h ago

Today was the nail in the coffin

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29M, been depressed for as long as I can remember. Tried taking me out by overdose and postration by not eating because of the lack of courage. Neither of them worked so I accepted I'm not capable of ending it myself.

Recently I've been job hunting via university support office (my 2nd university). I told them I want least amount of dealing with people and I don't care about payment as long as I can keep myself above the water. Their recommendations were great. Mainly factory operations with mininal room for communications.

My parents asked me how is the job hunting going so I answered as it is.They were beyond dissapointed to the point they yelled at me "how could you study computer science and participating in research for years, and choose those jobs" "What are you interested in, computers, AI, programming, anything??". I explained that I'm not inclined to go for those "decent job" and I just want to live alone quietly with minimal contact with people.

And here onwards was the worst. They were completely baffled that I don't want anything in life. Cars, house, marriage, travel, nothing. They yelled I'm thinking wrong and I should be ashamed. At this point I was so annoyed and did a poor job in choosing the words (still my honest perspective). "I am sick of everything and the only reason I'm alive is I'm not brave enough to unalive myself. None of this is your fault and I'm sorry I'm this way, but this is who I am. I just want to get out of this world as peacefully and quietly as possible".

In the end they said I betrayed them, I'm selfish, and wish I wasn't even born. Pretty much agree with them except for that being selfish. Disliking life is not selfish imo and I can do nothing about it. My mother has been understanding and supportive, and I really feel bad for her, but I felt like the door in my hurt is closed now.


r/depression 2h ago

I need to talk to someone

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I've fallen back into depression and I just want to kill myself.


r/depression 5h ago

depression keeping me away from my addiction bc It feels like too much effort lol

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Lately I've been so depressed, so exhausted, that I barely get out of bed.

I've been depressed since forever but sometimes I have these slumps of melancholy that leave me pratically bed bound, I just get up to eat when the hunger feels too much and even hold off on going to the bathroom (that's 6 steps away) because it's tiring.

People always talk about depression making you lose interest in the things you enjoy, but I've gotten to the point where I don't even have the motivation to keep up with my addictions.

I used to smoke every day. Recently, I just... stopped. Not because I wanted to quit or because I suddenly found the willpower, but simply walking to my bathroom, lighting a cigarette, and smoking it just feels like too much effort.

It's weird to realize that depression can be so powerful and so irrational that even addiction isn't enough to make me do something. My brain can't even be bothered with something I'm technically addicted to crave.

It really puts into perspective how little control this illness gives you. Media talks too much about not wanting to do fun things, but its also not wanting to do anything at all, even the things our own brain is supposed to be conditioned to do.

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but it made me realize just how deep I've fallen.

Anyway, I have to shower and go to work in 30mins, the only clean-ish tshirt i have is full of cat hair, I'm hungry, money's tight until payday in 2 weeks and all i want is to go to sleep and hope tomorrow i'll wake up a different person. Fuck me fr.


r/depression 57m ago

i’m so tired, it’s over

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i don’t care about therapy, antidepressants, doing "better", i just want to end it. i want to do tonight. my life is over, i’ve never been so sad in my life, my bpd is just untreatable, i’m ugly, undesirable, poor and truly friendless. i’m going to take some dilaudid, the whole fucking bottle and finish me off. what’s the point of anything anymore ? i’ve been suffering for years and years. the only person that i felt closer to is now loving another. i’ll go. just forever. there’s no point of telling anyone this, because there’s thousands of posts like this one every single day. no one genuinely cares. i’m so sorry because my friends and family wanted me to try, and i just couldn’t. the little girl in me had never healed. and now she’ll finally leave forever.


r/depression 1h ago

I want to kill myself

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I want to kill myself because I do not see any other ways out. I lied to my family about something big and my parents and my sister found out. Now my mom will not even look at me, my sister also. They say that they are disappointed and I will never have their trust ever again. I do not want to live like this. I am thinking about an easy way out of this. Please help saying some easy ways.


r/depression 1h ago

I want to talk to someone

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I've no one talk to rn....just need someone


r/depression 22h ago

Being a muslim with depression is so funny.

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Whenever i tell someone i am depressed they immediately suggest it is because of a lack of strong belief in Allah. You should learn to be grateful for everything. You don't get to be sad, you have better than 90% of people. You haven't faced anything to be depressed.

Then i hear other things like, you shouldn't grief much the death of people that mattered to you, because a strong muslim doesn't get worked up over earthly matters. Therapy is some western shit for a group of people with different nihilistic lifestyle.

Add to that i don't have access to weed, alcohol, sex,dates or any form of release at all.

Islam is never against therapy or seeking help but people here are such hypocrites


r/depression 1h ago

Depression spiral

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I'm in a bit of a depression spiral that I do not see the end of. I have severe mental health issues, I lost my family and I want to die. I would just die but I would break my mom's heart and I don't want to do that. I want to just get over it and do it anyways because if she understood how bad I was suffering she'd understand. I don't know what to do


r/depression 8h ago

i gave myself 2 more months

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i wake everyday with my eyes swollen from crying histerically. i can’t do this anymore.


r/depression 22h ago

social skills arent “skills”when you’re depressed

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I feel like people around me often push the narrative that if i just put myself out there and “practice talking to people” i would develop social skills. that’s only true when your brain actually lets you use those skills.

when i’m depressed i feel isolated no matter what. it doesn’t matter if i have the “skill” to hold the conversation, i’ll still feel disconnected. depression genuinely drains every bit of interest and confidence i have holding a conversation. even when i want to socialise, it feels like there’s a wall between me and the other person.

telling someone who’s depressed to “practice socialising” is like telling someone with a broken leg to “practice running”. when you’ve been isolated for long enough it becomes a cycle, and every awkward conversation makes you isolate yourself even more.

i don’t think i lack social skills, i think i lack the ability to use said skills, because i’m depressed.

does anyone else think this way?


r/depression 3h ago

I feel like I can't get better

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I was smart once, graduating from a good college with good grades . I tried my best to change my introverted nature and I actually did it eventually. I even served as a core committee member of a college club which was very challenging. But even after trying so hard, I'm just an after thought in everyone's life.. I have no real meaningful relationships apart from 2 or 3 friends and my family who have been so supportive.

I had so many dreams for myself but it feels like I literally can't do anything all day. Overthinking just kills me. It feels like I spend so much time even in trivial tasks. I don't remember anything even if I'm in my room. Even If I somehow spend time studying or doing something productive, I just forget everything. I spend my whole day inside the same room. People have friends, go on trips, have side hobbies etc and I can't do one thing right.. I stopped driving because of anxiety issues even though I have a license. I feel like I'll get laid off from my first ever job and I just don't know where to go later. To make things worse, everything seems to go against me and yes I know I'm probably just complaining due to my incompetence but my god, the amount of bad luck I have is just insane.I try to be kind, considerate and I always own up to my mistakes. If anything, the fact that I'm a better person than many people I interact with is the only takeaway I have but that is also useless. Many of these bad people have good lives, are resourceful, have many friends, go out, enjoy life and what not. I have no friends, no career probably and I hardly step out of my house because I have nothing to do.

I bawl my eyes out time and time and this has been my story for a couple of years, I tried and tried during my education years too but my god Im just a loser ig.

At this point, I don't know what to do.


r/depression 4h ago

If I commit suicide will i go to hell?

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Is there a heaven or hell? Is God real?


r/depression 7m ago

I Don’t Feel Like a Real Person Anymore

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I feel like a robot. I feel like a machine.
I used to love the song “Mr. Roboto” from Kilroy Was Here. The whole song is about someone hiding behind a machine, trying to convince everyone they’re just a robot, while secretly still being human underneath. I’ve always related to that.
I feel like I’m nothing more than a machine, like I was born and programmed to believe whatever I was told, and I can’t break out of it. I feel like some kind of monster. I don’t feel like I deserve to exist. Sometimes I feel like disappearing into a white light and just no longer existing.
I live like a machine. I eat. I sleep. I watch mindless TV that doesn’t make me feel any better. I bury myself in nerdy hobbies that are really just distractions from the emptiness inside me. It all feels robotic. Nothing ever changes. Nothing ever gets better.
People leave you. They move on. They don’t really care about you. I still think about my ex-girlfriend telling me that we could never truly be together, and it still hurts.
I just don’t feel real anymore. I don’t even know who I am. That song ends by talking about hiding your true identity, and that’s exactly how I feel. I don’t know who my real self is anymore.


r/depression 24m ago

Totally lost and totally dejected

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Unemployed - with no hope of getting well enough to work, agoraphobic, suicidal, panic attacks, no friends, sufferer of psychosis, teeth have gone bad from not looking after myself, cant go to the barbers for a haircut due to panic attacks, laughed at by my neighbours when i do nothing wrong.
Why is the world so cold ? And what the fuck do i do. Iv tried exercise, iv eaten crazy healthily, iv taken my meds, iv not taken my meds. Iv tried so many different approaches, I feel like iv tried everything i can think of and whatever others have told me will make me feel better. I swear the only thing stopping me from killing myself is my child who i cant leave to go through this world on their own. But i am so fed up of suffering.
Why are we born in the first place ?


r/depression 4h ago

What to do when nothing works?

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24m UK. I’ve been off and on anti-depressants since I was 17 and had regular counselling (switched from CBT to talk-therapy) since then too. Restarted anti-depressants (Mirtazapine) after 18 months of not needing them following an attempt last October.

I feel like I’ve done everything you’re “supposed” to do when you feel like this. I’m lucky enough to have a supportive family and I’m open with them and my (very few) friends about my depression. I’ve engaged with the NHS and counselling. I take my meds. I try to practice mindfulness (occasionally). I exercise when I have the time. I engage my brain at work. Yet my baseline, even with all of this, seems to be being just short of being actively suicidal.

It gets to a point where this just feels like a life sentence. I’ve been told ‘it’ll get better’ for years now. I can’t help but question what the point of persevering and carrying on is if there is no light at the end of the tunnel, I sure as hell don’t want to spend the next 60 years feeling like this.

So, if there is something I’m missing, please tell me. Am I to just trudge on and wait/hope that a time comes where this feeling is a distant memory? Is there some avenue of support / activity for betterment that I’m not exploiting?


r/depression 11h ago

Keep going everyone

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I know this is a community that is mainly for sharing setbacks, struggles and challenges in hopes of finding people that understand them, but I would like to do something a bit different with this post. I want to spread some positivity here and tell everyone how strong they are. Depression is not easy to live with and I understand with all my heart that a simple “Just do it!” or “I’m here for you” sometimes isn’t enough to get you to do the things that seem impossible. I’m fighting my hardest at the moment to try and see the light at the end of the tunnel again so I just wanted to create a post telling everyone to not give up. I’m not sure if this post will actually help anyone but I just wanted to put this out there.


r/depression 37m ago

I am a born loser

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Welp another job I lost I can’t hold a job to save my life. I really don’t even think it’s worth trying anymore . Mainly due to the fact that I am a loser every time there is opportunity somewhere I some how fuck it up. I am loser in the eyes of everyone I know I guarantee you no one would really miss me when I am gone the world will keep spinning and I will be there in the dirt finally at peace


r/depression 2h ago

How do I open up to my family?

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I (17F)have been struggling mentally for quite some time now.

A lot of it comes from my childhood. I grew up with a father who had substance abuse problems. There was constant noise around me at all times, because my parents were always arguing. I feel like I was kind of doomed from the very beginning.

I have been working towards trying to forgive my parents, but it’s not an easy path.

Despite all the chaos, my family thinks I am doing fine. My mother had to get therapy due to my father. I was never asked about how I was doing, instead, I was forced into this role of trying to pick up after my father.
Now, I am pursuing a degree my mother chose for me, studying for subjects I have zero interest in.
Throughout my life, I had no autonomy, and now, it’s really taking a toll on me. I feel trapped, I feel like my days are just passing by, and I find no joy in anything at all.

I wanna speak out about how much I am struggling, and wanna open up to my family. But I am very scared to do so. I have had breakdowns in front of them over my academics before, but I wasn’t really able to get any help.

I do think I need professional help, but I don’t know how to convince my family for it. At the end of the day, I am not earning, and it’d have to be them who handle all the expenses.

I feel like such a burden.

I also am quite ashamed to admit things about my childhood(my father’s addiction and all that revolved around it) so I dont really share such things with my friends. I feel like when I am with my friends, thats the only time I can avoid bringing my family life into my head, so I try not to let it ruin things.

How did you guys ask for help from your parents?


r/depression 3h ago

I don’t know how to keep fighting depression anymore

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I’ve been living with depression for a long time, but over the past year, I feel like my condition has become much worse. During the last few months, there has barely been a moment when I have felt like my old self.

Mornings are the hardest. I wake up with a feeling of heaviness, emptiness, and hopelessness, as though a new day is not a new opportunity, but simply another thing I have to survive. I often go back to sleep because sleep has become the only place where I can briefly escape from everything I am feeling. I can sleep for more than twelve hours and still wake up exhausted.

I have lost interest in almost everything that used to mean something to me. It is difficult to work, keep my apartment clean, take care of myself, see other people, or force myself to do any kind of activity. Even the simplest things feel like enormous tasks. I constantly tell myself that I will do something later, but then the entire day passes and I have done nothing. Afterwards, I feel even worse and blame myself even more.

I also feel as though my brain has slowed down. It is harder to think, my concentration is poor, and sometimes I feel as though I have lost a part of myself. I remember who I used to be—active, motivated, more social, and full of plans—and it is difficult to accept how much I have changed.

I am trying to keep working and occasionally play football, but I often feel as though I am only pretending to function. From the outside, I may not look like someone who is falling apart, but internally, I am fighting with myself almost every day.

What scares me most is how long this has been going on. People say that it will pass and that things will get better, but when you wake up in the same condition for months, you gradually stop believing them. Sometimes I have extremely dark thoughts and feel as though there is no way out for me anymore. Still, there is a part of me that continues to look for help and hopes that this is not the end of my life.

I have seen a psychiatrist, I am changing my medication, and I am trying to take small steps, but right now, things are genuinely very difficult. I do not expect anyone on Reddit to fix my life. I suppose I simply need to say this somewhere, to people who might understand what it is like when depression is no longer just sadness, but something that gradually takes away your energy, personality, relationships, routine, and hope.

Has anyone else felt this way for such a long time and still managed to recover? What helped you when you no longer believed that things could get better?


r/depression 3h ago

What depression has done to me

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This is a personal experience of everything depression has made to me (mentally and phisically talking)

Depression has took away from me 6 years of life, from age 15-21 (I'm not as bad anymore, but it's still hard)

Depression has made me self-isolate into becoming a chronic shut-in, I rarely leave the house and when I do I hang out with friends (luckily they were really long term and they are still around)
I'm unemployed

Depression has made me lost my hair from stress.

Depression has made my hygiene terrible, with the consequence of never brushing my teeth for years which caused a bit of gum recession, and had a total of 2 cavities (I was lucky in this)

Depression has made my sleep schedule terrible, I'm asleep at day and awake at night.

This are the main things that happened that make me self conscious a lot about myself and my appearance
I've also never had a girlfriend and the thought of having one scares me because I think that someone wouldn't wanna be with someone who is very unexperienced (not in dating only), but i'm also very very insecure about my looks and I'm very scared women could make fun of my appearance and cannot explain well what happened because it's a bit embarassing

what happened to you guys?
are you guys a bit better?
hug to you all, all of you battling with this are vrave and strong, and I love you, I'd hug every single one of you
yall are amazing, men and women, keep going because we are much more than a disorder