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What-If Wednesdays
Welcome to What-If Wednesday, the weekly megathread for scenarios you'd like to talk over but haven't necessarily developed much yet.
Please use this thread instead of posting just a "What-If" question without any lore - those will be removed by the mods. r/HistoryWhatIf is a better option for that kind of post. Thank you!
r/AlternateHistory • u/GustavoistSoldier • Jan 20 '25
Althist Help How to make an alternate history Wikipedia article: a tutorial
An important warning is, Do not save your sandbox! Only press preview changes. As all content in Wikipedia must be related to the encyclopedic effort, wiki admins might delete your sandbox and undo your hard work at any time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_vandalize_correctly
I am well-known in the alternate history community for creating the imaginary politician Ed Donnell, who is a meme in r/imaginaryelections, as well as some personal controversies. My routine consists of making at least one alternate history post a day, be it a lore writeup or, more commonly, a fake Wikipedia article for my myriad scenarios, all of whom are originally posted to r/GustavosAltUniverses and a handful of Discord servers, and then complied on this and other subreddits.
But today, I will write a tutorial as to how to make a fictional Wikipedia page for alternate history scenarios. Although I use my phone for all of them, I recommend going on a computer for better quality.
If you create a Wikipedia account on desktop, you will have access to a sandbox allowing you to test editing without commiting vandalism, which is a bannable offense. My trick is to copy the Wikipedia article for the event I want to alter, or the military conflict or country templates in the case of a completely fictional event or subplot. Then, you alter the content of the page as you please; this is the beauty of alternate history.
Illustrations wise, you can retain the article's original image, or change it by copying and pasting ones from articles relevant to your scenario (for instance, a picture of Red Army soldiers for an Operation Unthinkable TL). But it has to be a Wikimedia commons image; otherwise, you'll have to photoshop your screenshot using Inkscape or some other image editing software.
You also have the option to change or add text to your article. I always do this for war scenarios, but not always so for election ones. Make sure to proofread them before screenshoting, in order to avoid potentially confusing typos or grammar mistakes. This is pretty much it.
r/AlternateHistory • u/Interesting_Hat_6698 • 19h ago
1700-1900s Polk's American Dream — What if Manifest Destiny stopped until 1857, and the U.S became a transcontinental superpower until the 1900s to the 2000s?
What would it look like, after the American Revolution, War of 1812, Manifest Destiny, Mexican–American War, etc., in two World Wars, the Cold War and Modern–day politics in the Modern–day world (pre–2000s)?
r/AlternateHistory • u/BlitzthesillyOwl • 6h ago
1900s [The House that never stood] Florida: The Sunshine Republic
Second post about my alternate history scenario! This time we're going over the independent Florida Republic, a very long Florida indeed. Due to France being unable to sell Louisiana to the United States (because there isn't really an United States) the territory passed back to Spain, and then after, to Mexico. We will talk about Mexico some other time, what's important in the scenario is, the Floridas became Mexican property as well. Shortly after Mexican independence, the Floridas, influenced by the Thirteen republics to the north, declared independence from Mexico, and united as a single republic, Mexico, not yet being able to properly handle all this vast land it was given, decided to grant the small republic its independence after some border skirmishes, birthing the Florida Republic. Feel free to ask questions below!
The main languages are English and Spanish
r/AlternateHistory • u/Desperate-Leading848 • 1h ago
1900s Ive been thinking about how the cold war could've been different if germany won the second world war. I know its generic but this is a scenario I would like to share, I also do not support or condone extremist ideologies, I spent like half a day making this and researching.
Okay here it is:
Germany wins 2nd world war:
Germany continues pressuring Austria to be absorbed by Germany in 1934. Mussolini initially mobilizes troops onto the Brenner Pass. France and Britain pressure Italy to not intervene and so Mussolini feels betrayed by the Western powers. Italy become diplomatically isolated because of this and Hitler gains prestige and legitimacy for uniting the German Austrians with the Gerrman people. Italy would officially stay neutral but would continually pressure neighboring states in the future
Germany continues to re-arm and develop its modernized warfare tactics, but for modern warfare you need modern weapons. So Germany invests secretly more into promising modern technologies gradually advance thier technological capabilities. Hitler gives the military full autonomy over automation, design blueprints and technological research. Hitler knows that they are the professionals, but he still wants to see rapid progress. which accelerates military research projects and to the following years to come. Engineers gain more authority, military production becomes standardized and much more reliable and advanced, logistics would be a main focus of the new "Bewegungskrieg" tactics aswell as radios for coordination.
A military nationalist coup overthrow the Turkish goverment and replaces him and seek the revision of the Treaty of Lausanne.
Bulgaria seeks revenge after what the allies did to them in the first world war and want to carve up romania and greece
Spain falls into civil war in 1937 and with the support from germany and italy, the nationalists win.
Germany expands further in 1938, the allies appease hitler by giving him the sudetenland but Germany carves up Czechoslovakia with Hungary eventually. German puppets: Bohemia-moravia and Slovakia are established.
The Nationalist powers carve up Yugoslavia. Germany sponsors Croatian separatists, Hungary demands Vojvodina, Bulgaria demands Macedonia, Italy also supports Croatian independence and Yugoslavia collapses politically after the gradual carving of its land and separatist movements. Creating two german puppets states called Croatia and Serbia.
Germany increases its Relationship with japan, sharing technology, strategies and culture overseas. Germany doesnt directly send troops to the Chinese front but provide experienced generals.
Germany reasserts thier eastern claims and signs the molotov ribbontrop pact, which shocks the western allies. Bialostok would be in the german sphere of influence in this timeline instead of lithuania.
Germany secretly negotiates with japan abouta two front war against the soviets, germany gets europe and japan gets the far east.
World war two breaks out and Germany does even better, capturing Warsaw in 20 days because of the Better military command and research. The soviets invade the east and both giants move to thier agreed borders and with germany now controlling bialostok, they have access to more population and resources than in our timeline. The soviets trade raw materials and exchange Tank technology with germany
The soviets invade Finland during the sitzkrieg and I wouldnt change anything here, its just like in our timeline.
German troops probe attack the French borders and realize that the French are extremely uncoordinated, outdated and not combat ready. And unlike in our timeline where hitler thinks hes a military genius for the great success of the western front, he instead allows military high command to have full control of the army and they commit riskier but more logical moves.
America remains isolationist, The U.S passes stronger neutrality laws especially because war has only crippled the American economy. Lend lease wouldn't happen in this timeline and the public opposes intervention in another European war.
Germany strikes the benelux after seeing how weak the French army really is, German paratroopers landing in Rotterdam and Amsterdam while the german tank forces punch through the ardennes forest, Hitler doesnt stop the advance and the tank forces encircle most of the allied army in Calais, capturing hundreds of thousands of POW'S
The allies try to blockade swedish iron exports to germany by blocking the Norwegian coast, germamy strikes quickly and invades Denmark, they surrender in 6 hours then german paratroopers land on ports and cities all across norway and march through the mountains.
The French goverment capitulates after Paris is captured on June 15th 1940 and the germans establish Vicy France. Spain joins the Axis and Italy swoops in to annex Savoy.
The battle of Britain commences quickly and germany immediately goes to work, by destroying RAF bases, airports and radar installations, then after those are destroyed they move onto military factories. The U-boat fleet blocks off all supply from Britain's colonies to the main island and Spain captures Gibraltar. Churchill loses a confidence vote and Lord Halifax becomes Prime minister. Germany offers a peace treaty and Britain signs it on 5th August 1940. All of the captured POW'S are safely gaven passage to Britain, spain gets Gibraltar, And for free passage in the suez canal. Japan also seizes Indochina. This treaty will last until 1946
The winter war ends and the soviets lost hundreds of thousands of experienced soldiers, the Soviets quickly annex the Baltic states with nobody to oppose them.
Germany has a brief break and reorganizes its troops and logistics. North africa campaign doesnt happen here, so doss the balkan. German research only accelerates during this time of peace and starts mass producing advanced equipment and filling in the gaps of its army. German technology accelerates in this time of peace as they trade recources with turkey, soviets, sweden and nationalist india. Hitlers generals convince him for a more pragmatic solution of generalplan ost, the high command has earned hitlers full trust after such an effective and quick win against the allies and he agrees to the compromise. The new generalplan ost aims to set up puppet collaboration goverments in the east for better intelligence, manpower, equipment, industry and most importantly resources.
Iran and Iraq take advantage and revolt against british ruled and side with the axis, providing germany with Iranian oil, the british public does not want to go to war, especially after they are still recovering. Thailand joins the axis after japan presses them to. Indian freedom fighters storm the streets of india and the states of pakistan and azad hind side with the axis. The civil war in india will drag out and become a costly war between locals and British colonists.
Hungary demand transylvania and the Romanians refuse, germany swoops in and invades Romania with Hungary. The soviets annex besserabia while this happens and germany cedes northern transylvania to Hungary and establishes a puppet goverment in romania and gains full control to the oil.
Italy invades greece in late 1940 after seeing how well german expansion has worked. The italians are completely alone against the Greeks with no one to bail them out.
Germany sends equipment to the Finnish for operation Barbarossa. The early spring of 1941 is when the german army strikes, Stalin orders a no step back command and his army is severely weakened because the purges are still ongoing. In the first months, germany already captures major cities like minsk, Riga and Kiev. The main goal is Moscow and the army focuses most of the troops onto capturing the most strategically important goal. Slavic nationalists join the german army and provide crucial information and germany allows for self governance in the newly conquered slavic states as the slavic people hate the judeo bolshevics and would already go door to door to kill them off. Germany encircles leningrad and the siege begins. As the first snowflakes fall in Russia, germany captures Moscow which stabilizes the supply routes from berlin to the eastern front. Leningrad falls in early 1942 and the german army new objective is to rush to the Caucasus. Turkey joins the axis and Iran also joins the fight. They pressure the Caucasus from both sides and by summer 1942, stalingrad falls and soon after, baku falls. Japan seizes ths moment and attacks siberia. Japan captures vladivostok and struggles heavily with the eastern supply. Germany now sits on the A-A line by mid 1942
Italy loses hundreds of thousands of soldiers in greece but eventually the italians win by a naval invasion.
Stalin is killed by military high command and the soviets collapse, creating new warlord states in the east and germany officially wins the eastern front, they utilize anti soviet movements in the east for a pragmatic solution of generalplan ost.
New states like ukraine, united Baltic states, moskowien, Azerbaijan, Georgia and kaukasian become german puppets with friendly collaborators. Slavic scientists are allowed to continue thier work in german universities and revolts in eastern europe are rare under german leadership, as long as germany gets resources from the east, they will continue to thrive.
A new age of germany is reached, they started as the weimar republic and now they are completely self sufficient with the biggest army, airforce, industry, research and economy. German families and officers would still migrate eastwards but not commit atrocities against the slavic people. The East is industrialized and slavic people start moving into the cities for work.
Generalplan ost becomes much more pragmatic, to exploit the puppet states overtime and maximize financial gain by investing into the eastern states.
After the war germany focuses on consolidating its gains and developing even more advanced technology and industry. German spies infiltrate the US and Britain. Stealing blueprints and designs. Germany learns about the Manhattan project, the german spies steals blueprints of the atomic bomb and uranium enriching machines
The japanese chinese war drags out until they finally win in late 1943
Azad hind signs a white peace with the british Raj, the british Raj controls south india while the nationalists control the north alongside with Pakistan.
Afghanistan joins the axis after negotiations and personal gain.
Regions in the Warlord states of siberia are influenced by germany and german volunteers, turkestan gains axis sympathies.
Germany integrates its economy with Bulgaria and Hungary, essentially making them puppets but benefitting all parties.
Japan strikes the newly independent state of Indonesia and swiftly tries to secure the rubber and oil processing.
The US fears japanese influence is getting out of hand, the Phillipines are at risk, Indonesia is a lost trade partner and Australia and New Zealand are preparing defenses against the growing japanese influence. Tensions rise between the US sphere of influence and japanese. The day finally comes, and in late 1944 the japanese strike pearl harbor which catches the Americans off guard. Australia, New Zealand and the Philippines join the war.
Hitler does not declare war on the US and the relationship between japan and germany is broken. Japan strikes the Phillipines and captures Manila while the US public fully supports going to war against the japanese, they start an island hopping campaign in the pacific. The US war economy goes into overdrive.
Revolts in Indonesia and Indochina manage to overthrow thier japanese oppressors by early 1945, the US is finished with the Manhattan project by now and launches the first nuclear bomb on Hiroshima. The japanese launch a never surrender campaign.
The US is forced to invade the japanese main island by late 1945 after another 4 atomic bombs detonate in major japanese cities, this completely depletes the American nuclear arsenal. Japan finally surrenders by early 1946 and the American influence spreads. Indonesia is independent, Indochina is split and vietnam, Laos, cambodia becomes independent. Japan turns democratic and China unites under nationalism. A friendly democratic goverment is set up in far east siberia.
The world is divided under 3 major powers:
The allies: Britain, free France exile, Belgian Congo and the remaining british colonies, not including Australia and New Zealand.
The free world: US and its democratic subjects
Einheitspakt: Germany and its puppets across all of europe.
The perma soviet goverments unite and conquer the Warlord states in siberia. A new soviet union is established and aims to march to berlin. The treaty between germany and Britain ends
Himmler plans an assassination on Hitler and dreams to become the führer of germany, he seeks to install his own racial policies into the puppet states of germany and so in spring 1947, Himmler and the SS try to purge the Nazi goverment and kill Hitler in his bureau. Germany falls into a brief civil war between the wehrmacht and the SS.
During the infighting, the Soviets take thier chances and declare war on germany. Soviet forces start invading moskowien
Bormann becomes the leader of the Nazi regime and strikes a deal with Himmler, the SS would gain thier own independent state and so the SS carve up burgundy and Crimea for a non aggression pact with germany. Heydrich becomes the leader of Crimea and Himmler the leader of burgundy
Britain declares war on germany during all of the chaos and the soviets keep marching towards Moscow. The wehrmacht reorganizes and holds the front in the east. Mobilizing more troops. The luftwaffe strikes Britain and the uboat fleet strikes ports, convoys and sometimes battleships. The germans will have to march beyond the urals if they want to capitulate this new soviet goverment. Soviet technology is outdated by this time due to limited research and constant fighting between states.
German tank forces move to Moscow and start pushing to Novgorod. The luftwaffe destroying soviet factories in the urals and bombing soviet ground forces
German technology is comparable to mid 1950s technology in this timeline. Germany constructs thier own atomic bomb by using the American blueprints, its much more primitive and not as effective but its still a nuclear weapon. And with the Amerikabomber project, germany could absolutely turn Washington to rubble if it came down to it.
The war in the east drags out until 1949 as soviet factories are destroyed and german forces push beyond the urals and capture major cities. The soviets collapse once again and moskowiens borders are pushed to the ural mountains and the ural river. Germany diverts thier forces for an invasion of the british mainland.
The US stays strictly neutral, not risking an all out blood bath between all continents
German paratroopers land in strategic locations along the coast and ports on the british isles in winter 1949. German troops start funneling into Britain but not without some ships sinking. And by early 1950 the british surrender.
Peace treaty:
Iceland=Germany
Greenland= independent
Canada= independent
Caribbean islands= independent
Congo= German Mittelafrika
Tanzania= German Mittelafrika
Camaroon= German Mittelafrika
Namibia= German Mittelafrika
South africa= independent
French Morocco= Spain
Malta= Italy (after they demand it)
Cyprus= Turkey
India= Azad hind
Scotland= independent
Wales= independent
Ireland= independent
England= german puppet
Turkestan= german puppet
In this timeline, The US is in a cold war stalemate with Germany after the continuation of the second world
r/AlternateHistory • u/throwaway553t4tgtg6 • 1d ago
1900s I think one aspect of Japan-keeps fighting/atom bombs weren't dropped scenarios is just how much the USSR would gain from it. no Korean war, strongest China, etc.
r/AlternateHistory • u/Creative_Estimate581 • 4h ago
1900s My take on Alt History of China:China Statebuilding Party
This party was founded 2 years (1984) after the 1982 coup which deposed succeeding leader, Shih Ming-teh (施明德). after Huang Hsin-chieh (黃信介) was assassinated by mutineers, his assassination were driven by military factionalism, Dissatisfaction among officers regarding Huang's new policies and the treatment of ROC Armed Forces.
The party was syncretic at the time of General Yang Baibing (楊白冰) mainly socially conservative and fiscally liberal. The party's founding purpose was to compete further elections (Third Way). Yang Baibing ruled China from 1982 prior to 1990 democratic revolution.
After 1990's restoration of democracy, the party faced a bit of political decline and internal factions (Hardliners and Reformists). Thus making the party went for alliance between parties.
r/AlternateHistory • u/Visual-Impact0 • 1d ago
1900s Japanese Invasion of India (1942)
Soldiers of the Japanese Imperial Army shortly after capturing Agra
r/AlternateHistory • u/SIRNOVALIONX • 3h ago
Althist Help Necesito ayuda para decidir sobre religión en mi historia alternativa (Deus Hispaniae Est)
contexto: el mapa es sobre los patriarcados cristianos de esta realidad alternativa, el cambió importante para este post es que la iglesia católica y ortodoxa se reunificaron y debido a unas reformas los protestantes no tomaron fuerza.
Rojo: patriarcado de roma, sede en roma,idioma español (España, Occitania, Italia,Flandes), idioma alemán (Alemania), idioma polaco(Polonia), idioma húngaro (Hungría), idioma rumano (Rumanía), idiomas ingles y Anglese (Inglaterra).
Azul cian?: patriarcado de Francia, sede Paris, idioma francés.
Verde: patriarcado celta, sede Dublín, idioma irlandes (Irlanda), idioma gaelico escocés (escocia).
Amarillo: patriarcado nórdico, sede Oslo, idioma nórdico (unión nórdica), idioma Báltico (estado Báltico).
Azul oscuro grisáceo: patriarcado ruso, sede Moscú, idioma ruso (rusia, Bielorrusia, ucrania y asia central).
Otro Verde: patriarcado de Checoslovaquia, sede Praga , idioma checoslovaco(Checoslovaquia).
Morado: patriarcado de los Balcanes, sede Belgrado, idioma serbio-croata (Yugoslavia del oeste y del este), idioma búlgaro (bulgaria).
Azul claro: patriarcado de Constantinopla, sede Constantinopla, idioma griego (Grecia y anatolia).
Azul oscuro: patriarcado de Antioquia, sede Antioquia, idioma griego (siria).
Naranja: patriarcado del Cáucaso, sede vagharshapat, idioma ¿armenio y georgiano? (Reino unido del Cáucaso)
r/AlternateHistory • u/Megaman1987to2019 • 38m ago
Post 2000s What if SpongeBob SquarePants ended in 2004 instead of continuing to today?
Nickelodeon, following the box office disappointment that was the release of the SpongeBob SquarePants movie in 2004, which grossed 60 million instead of our timelines 140 million, decides that this is indeed the show's finale. Stephen Hillenburg leaves the show and the show is permanently cancelled. What does this mean for the culture of the mid to late 2000s and the rest of the entertainment industry of western animation in the future?
r/AlternateHistory • u/GustavoistSoldier • 1d ago
1900s Lundian Socialism | What if a democratic socialist American politician named William Lund existed and was elected President in 1932?
Lundian Socialism | Early life of William Lund (1880–1925)
William Hansen Lund was born in Moose Lake, Minnesota, on March 14, 1880, to Norwegian immigrants Johan Lund (1854–1926) and Brigitte Lund (1858–1936), who worked as iron miners. According to the 1880 Census Moose Lake had only 100 inhabitants; it is believed growing up in a small town immigrant community affected Lund deeply.
Lund began working at the age of 12 to sustain his family. He was treated harshly and suffered several workplace injuries, thus shaping his socialist, pro-union views. In 1896, the Lunds moved to northwestern Wisconsin, where William continued working in a mine until becoming a union organizer in 1900.
The following year, Lund became a founding member of the Socialist Party of America, whose main stronghold was Wisconsin (especially the city of Milwaukee). In 1908, Lund married Christina Holbein, a fellow Norwegian American who served as first lady during Lund's presidency. They had three children.
By 1910, Lund was the most important Wisconsin Socialist outside of Milwaukee, allowing him to be elected to the Wisconsin State Assembly in 1912. As a state assemblyman, Lund cooperated with La Follette's progressive faction of the Republican Party in order to improve the lives of working-class Wisconsinites. This made him popular among workers in his district, but he lost reelection to a Republican in 1916.
Like most Socialists, Lund strongly opposed the United States's entry in World War I, arguing it would benefit big corporations but not the working man. Consequently, he was arrested and was only released in 1921, subsequently becoming one of the Socialist Party's most important figures. He campaigned for La Follette during the 1924 election.
r/AlternateHistory • u/Dear-Pay-2360 • 1d ago
Post 2000s The 2026 World Cup in my timeline
For needed context, Yugoslavia were the defending champions in 2022
r/AlternateHistory • u/Ok-Piccolo-5476 • 23h ago
Pop culture Norman Bates
Norman Anthony Bates was born on October 16, 1932 in Ulysses, Kansas to Samuel John Bates Norma Albert Bates (maiden name Hitchcock). Bates was raised in rural Kansas in a low income household. When the Dust Bowl hit Kansas, the Bates family fled west from their home. With very little money, the family arrived in California in 1936. Norman‘s father, Samuel Bates, opened Bates Motel in 1943 after spending 7 years as an engineer. Samuel Bates ran the hotel until his death in 1949. The death of Samuel drove Norman Bates’ mind on the road to insanity. He started to have violent fantasies about killing any person that came to mind. In 1953, Bates murdered his mother Norma Bates after she said he could not take over the motel. He put his mothers’ body in the basement of his house. Norman took over the motel and kept it somewhat stable for the next 6 years. In December of 1959, Bates murdered motel guest Marion Crane and Fairvale Police Officer Milton Arbogast. The police were altered and promptly arrested Norman. He was charged on three counts of Murder with Malice but was soon found unfit to stand trial. He was sent to the Atascadero State Hospital to be institutionalized. In 1983, he was sent to the Fairvale State Prison where he lived out his final days. Bates died of Kidney Cancer in Prison on September 14, 2010 at the age of 77.
r/AlternateHistory • u/Complex-Seat6842 • 13h ago
Post 2000s An interactive visual novel / web-series about a satellite that wakes up 13-years too late.
https://blu-oyster-transmission.neocities.org/
Essentially in 2008 the world does an interstellar and by 2021 they become content with dying sooner or later. Blue Oyster was the last satellite launched by humanity and it failed, until 13 years later when it turns back on.
Sort of like an ARG at times, a web-series, a visual novel, interactive fiction. A mix of sorts, maybe a game at times? Idk if it fits the criteria, but I made it within a day - atleast up to chapter 1.
I am now updating it weekly. Video included is from a interactive part of chapter three which has not released yet.
I wanna know if you guys fuck with the writing
r/AlternateHistory • u/BlitzthesillyOwl • 1d ago
1900s [The House that never stood] The League of America celebrates their 200th independence year
This is my first post here! So I hope you all will be patient with me :). This is a map for my alternate history scenario where the articles of confederation were kept, due to the states being unable to agree on any draft, and as time goes on, the idea of an "United States" becomes simply a defensive and economic alliance called the "League of America". Feel free to ask about it down in the comments!
r/AlternateHistory • u/Proof_Ad732 • 18h ago
Media Discussion What are examples of terrible Axis Victory Scenarios?
I have been a bit curious about Axis Victory Scenarios that are regarded as low-quality or god-awful since the more famous Axis Victory Scenarios (Like TNO or Thousand Week Reich) seem to be pretty good at making the trope work. What are examples of Axis Victory Scenarios that you feel are low-quality or cartoonish?
r/AlternateHistory • u/ExperienceLeast7030 • 1d ago
Post 2000s Some old wikiboxes I did for the Fallout Universe
r/AlternateHistory • u/Appropriate-Year741 • 1d ago
Post 2000s I'm not sure if this counts as alternate history either, but...
I’m a Korean freelancer who creates and sells 3D models using Blender. As a hobby, I enjoy imagining alternate histories or conceptualizing fictional worlds using my 3D models.
Although I’m not entirely sure if this actually fits the alternate history genre, I thought I’d upload it anyway.
Based on the An-22 3D model I created, I tuned the 3D model as shown in the photo, exploring the scenario: “What if North Korea’s Air Koryo had been in better financial shape, or had received an An-22 as a grant from the Soviet Union and operated it?” The paint scheme is based on the IL-76s operated by Air Koryo.
All Screenshot: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lEVmXJ
Original: https://www.reddit.com/r/blender/comments/1v1ajip/this_is_my_first_time_using_reddit_so_im_not_very/
r/AlternateHistory • u/marvinthenew2082 • 18h ago
1900s The Columbian Republic in 1936 — What if the US had a different name and a centralized federation from 1774?
r/AlternateHistory • u/Any-Manufacturer2112 • 1d ago
Post 2000s Holy Roman Empire 2026
instead of a loose confederation in the 1500s the emperor decided to centralise power this instant instantly made the holy Roman Empire the biggest country in Europe throughout the Renaissance it unified Germany after the Napoleon wars in this timeline of France also wins the Napoleonic wars however soon collapses because the sheer amount of territory they have to govern in the 1800s they unify again restoring the empire however it became a completely Germanic dominated state it absorbed Austria in the 1900s and won two world wars
r/AlternateHistory • u/muratckl • 1d ago
1700-1900s The Turkish Commune
The Turkish Commune emerged as a consequence of the Ottoman Empire's declaration of insolvency in 1875, when it announced that it could no longer meet its foreign debt obligations amid a period of political struggle between the Sultan and constitutionalist statesmen, the devastating Ottoman defeat in the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, and, ultimately, the Empire's decision in 1881 to surrender major sources of tax revenue to Britain and France for a period of thirty years in repayment of its debts. More specifically, it arose in response to the Tobacco Régie established in 1883 under this arrangement.
Ottoman producers were required to sell all tobacco, salt, and alcohol they produced to the Régie administration at prices determined by the monopoly. Peasants were forbidden from keeping tobacco for their own consumption without the Régie's permission. A peasant would first be forced to sell his own tobacco to the Régie for three kuruş and then buy it back for ten kuruş. The penalties for transporting tobacco or salt from one village to another without authorization were severe. The Régie maintained its own armed guards, and some sources claim that more than 20,000 Ottoman peasants were shot and killed by Régie enforcers.
These conditions gave rise to a large-scale popular uprising in the Aegean region, the heartland of Anatolia's tobacco production. With the support of the Governor of Aydın, Alfred (Ahmed) Rüstem Bey, the unrest developed into an armed rebellion joined by numerous local military units stationed in the region. Following the Ottoman defeat in 1878, Sultan Abdul Hamid II had dissolved the parliament and sought to consolidate the state under his absolutist rule. Faced with this widespread rebellion, he sought assistance diplomatically by requesting the support of the British fleet stationed in Cyprus in exchange for granting further capitulatory concessions. This humiliating move resulted in the uprising receiving tacit support from constitutionalist statesmen, military officers, and bureaucrats.
Although the rebellion was suppressed in early 1884 with the support of the British Navy, resulting in the deaths of thousands of peasants and the bombardment of Aydın, it came to be known as the Turkish Commune. The movement was named after the populist and Marxist rhetoric embodied by the Turkish bureaucrat Ahmed Rüstem Bey, the indirect support it received from Turkish constitutionalists, and the solidarity extended to it by the international communist public opinion of the time.
The Turkish Commune maintained its existence for one year, from October 1883 to October 1884, during which it possessed its own currency, official newspaper, flag (a plain red banner, and therefore not depicted on the map), and Central Committee. Throughout this period, the Friday khutbah was not read in the name of the Sultan and Caliph anywhere within the Commune's territories in the Aegean. Although it did not receive direct support from high-ranking constitutionalist pashas closely connected to the central bureaucracy, it left a profound impression on the Young Ottomans and intellectual circles that would later shape modern Turkish literature and political thought, influencing figures ranging from Namık Kemal to Ebüzziya Mehmed Tevfik and Recaizade Mahmud Ekrem. Following the suppression of the uprising, Ahmed Rüstem Bey Bilinski -the "Turkish Marx"- fled abroad and continued his opposition for many years, entering history as the leader of the first Turkish communist movement and one of the most prominent Ottoman intellectuals of his age.
r/AlternateHistory • u/Spec1alF0x • 1d ago
1700-1900s What if only South Carolina left the Union?
In this timeline, a set of events occurs leading for most people that would normally bolster and strengthen the CSA to not be able to. Disease, death, etc. Also, most states pass more progressive legislatures. Robert E. Lee moves to SC after Virginia moves to be more liberal, and there he meets governor Francis Pickens. The two share common sentiment and eventually independence.
No other states secede though, also thanks to Lincoln sending some US military soldiers to patrol. Needless to say, South Carolina quickly loses the war after getting their hopes up with early ambush victories at the start. Due to there only being one state, only the Bonnie Blue (yes that's the name) flag is used as the Confederate flag is never invented in this timeline. The state rejoins the Union and that's that.
Also i just realized I probably should've changed the name of the war itself, though it makes sense that in the years following the war they would want to call it that to make it seem more equal of a fight. I'd imagine it's just called the Carolinian Insurgency outside of that. Beyond the war, a brief reconstruction period happens from 1861-1863. The state votes in the 1864 election and goes on like normal though. The government is completely changed. I know it's not all realistic but eh.
EDIT: I made a shocking amount of errors. I forgot to update the US army size among one of them. I acknowledge this and the others now stop buttering up my comments thanks El Reddit
r/AlternateHistory • u/787492 • 1d ago
1700-1900s Rebels besiege Fort Black on Lake Erie, November 1863.
“Following the costly Southern victory at Gettysburg, Hood’s Division, McLaws’ Division, and other Confederate organizations broke northwest to cut off Union supply lines and military communications."
"Despite this effort, the Confederacy was ultimately defeated in the Great American War, which resulted in the deaths of approximately 2.6 million Americans.”
The American War, (April 12, 1861 - June 5, 1868)
r/AlternateHistory • u/JapKumintang1991 • 17h ago