r/videos • u/NicolasCageFan492 • 6h ago
Heather Cox Richardson breaks the 25th Amendment down step by step and explains why it would be a massive lift to invoke
https://youtu.be/1im5mEwlnYM31
u/SacredSepia 5h ago
The 25th Amendment wouldn’t even be necessary in our current case if other levers of government actually worked the way they were intended to.
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u/Wompatuckrule 5h ago
other levers of government actually worked the way they were intended to
McConnell could've seen to it that Trumpism and MAGA was at least severely neutered if not killed by backing the impeachment after J6.
Not doing that and pointing to the courts gave Trump the ability to drag out the legal proceedings long enough to get back in office and shut it down.
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u/SacredSepia 5h ago
Exactly.
There were numerous individuals that were in the position to slow down MAGA who ended up doing nothing. They knew what was going to happen, we all did. The writing was on the wall in big bold letters. But they did nothing.
Now look at where we are. We are the laughing stock of the world with a literal buffoon for president.
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u/Wompatuckrule 5h ago
They knew what was going to happen, we all did.
They had a choice to take a stand, but that carried a small risk to their career or future campaigns. Instead they decided to cower and "hope for the best" so now the damage to the US and its democracy rests squarely upon their cowardly heads.
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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 5h ago
Removal via impeachment requires a majority in the house and 67 votes in the Senate.
Removal through 25th amendment requires the cabinet made exclusively of bootlickers and 2/3 of both chambers of congress.
The former is already non-starter given the makeup of the Senate. The latter is just beyond fantasy.
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u/blazelet 5h ago
Heather Cox Richardson is an absolute treasure in modern times. I strongly urge anyone interested in the historical context of our modern challenges to check out her Substack and YouTube
She digs into historical context - when has this happened before, what was the outcome, how does it impact us today, etc.
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u/BrickGun 50m ago
HCR every day!!! It's always a bittersweet moment when you hear Michael Moss's hip hop outro music.
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u/NicolasCageFan492 6h ago edited 5h ago
This video is the best explanation I’ve heard so far about Section 4 of the 25th Amendment, I would consider it authoritative.
A group including Nobel Peace Prize winning physicians and a member of the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) recently sent an urgent letter asking Congress to invoke the 25th Amendment, you can read in the Senate Congressional Record. https://www.reddit.com/r/OpinionLetters/s/K72jhzehHQ
The NAACP also called for the 25th Amendment to be invoked: https://naacp.org/articles/unprecedented-first-naacp-calls-president-trump-be-removed-office-under-25th-amendment
Here’s the background on Jamie Raskin’s legislation, I believe it has 65 cosponsors: https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/ranking-member-raskin-introduces-legislation-establishing-independent-commission-on-presidential-capacity
This law creates a bipartisan commission made up of psychologists and doctors selected by both parties to psychologically evaluate whether the President can carry out the duties of the office, and makes a recommendation to the VP to follow through with invoking the 25th Amendment.
Finally, I think there is value in Democrats and Republicans pushing for this law before the worst happens and the United States is destroyed forever. It would also give the federal government legitimacy on the world stage by using the tools that currently exist to solve this issue.
This is bigger than partisan politics IMO. I have a feeling Rand Paul and other Republicans would support it. The question to ask both Democrats and Republicans would be, “Are you loyal to your country first, or your political party first?” This is not a partisan issue. Avoiding world war and possible nuclear war is not a partisan issue.
Sometimes the hard thing to do is the right thing to do.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to run away from bees. NOT THE BEES!
NCF492
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u/johnp299 5h ago
Thousands of mental health professionals have already petitioned and gone on record, in clear exception to their own "Goldwater Rule," to warn the public about PINO. How many times do you need to hear "THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE" before you get your ass out the door?
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u/dryphtyr 5h ago
I wish someone would go after them with Conspiracy to Deny Rights. Everyone in the regime, from the Cabinet all the way down to the ICE thugs could be charged with the same crime, and it carries the death penalty.
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u/admiraltarkin 5h ago edited 5h ago
I've always felt that out of Impeachment and the 25th, the 25th was the "easier" lift.
In both cases you need significant numbers of republican senators to either vote to convict or to confirm incapacity of the president.
In my view, if you've already had Marco Rubio and JD Vance and the rest of those guys stick their neck out to remove trump they have likely either already spoken to the Senate republicans and lined up the votes or the less cowardly ones might see that tiny level of bravery and decide to vote to confirm the incapacity.
In the case of impeachment it's easy to say "partisan witch hunt" and bury your head in the sand
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u/NicolasCageFan492 5h ago
Agreed. The 25th Amendment is nonpartisan because there are medical professionals involved and it requires 2/3 of the House and Senate.
Impeachment can be passed in the House with a bare majority, but still requires 2/3 of the senate to convict. So the House can impeach along party lines and then it turns into a partisan issue. Might as well do it right if you still need 2/3 of the Senate anyways.
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u/frogandbanjo 5h ago
because there are medical professionals involved
Show me where in the Constitution it says that. Spoiler: it doesn't.
The larger point about politics mattering beyond simple numbers is fine, but don't start spouting falsehoods.
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u/NicolasCageFan492 5h ago
Sorry, I forgot to add context. I am specifically referring to Jamie Raskin’s bill that would establish a bipartisan panel of psychiatrists, psychologists, and health professionals using the Congress clause in Section 4 of the 25th Amendment, which HCR explains in the video.
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u/zoupishness7 6h ago
I knew she was going to talk about Trump, but the Youtube play button blocked the "5th" part of the title. At this point, I'd prefer the first title I read.
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u/Somethingsims 6h ago
Yeah, it would take more than ONE spine in either house...