Would love to hear what your guys favorite songs from the record are?

Ren, via threads

In the livestream webby hinted at a hidden message in Lunatic Lullaby. I found it (see video)

This is the first 15 or so seconds reversed.

So I’m going to preface this by saying I haven’t really had the time to look too deeply into Webby’s past just due to life, all I know is that he apparently held some conspiratorial beliefs about things like Covid vaccines and several other things that he’s apparently grown from. In The End Of The World during his verse Webby sings

“go and get another jab again
And just ignore the black box on the packaging
Shoot it up, hey-hey”

I may absolutely be reading way to much into it but give how “jab” is a common term anti-vaxxers use to refer to vaccines, his past I am a bit concerned. What do yall think, am I over reacting or nah?

I have cerebral palsy(CP). We were poor when I was a kid but not poor enough for Medicaid.

So we relied on a charity pediatric hospital called Shriners.

Excuse me for the rant that follows...

I HATE charity pediatric hospitals. Why? Because what this song talks about is my childhood at Shriners.

Orthopedic doctors would experiment on us poor kids. We would always have to have some new surgery they just invented but didn't perfect yet. Surgeries for minor causes. Surgeries where they would tell my parents (who signed waivers) we should be lucky I got to be first.

Should I talk about a surgery I had where they broke every bone in my left foot to keep my foot flat but my foot swelled up too big so I had to wait a week before they could put a cast on.

I was 10 and I was awake for those seven days with no pain meds. They kept me in a separate room with no windows. We called it the screaming room.

That foot was ruined. It swells often and it can be very painful still.

But at least they practiced on me so rich kids could have the perfected version right?

Or should I talk about the medicine trials they never got permission from my parents? They would hide them in pudding. I remember eating pudding and getting sick or falling asleep. I refused to eat the pudding and got yelled at by the nurse for "being a brat".

Oh and I heard St Jude isn't much better. They only like taking kids with rare cancers first because like Shriners they are an experiment hospital.

So yeah I was the kid in the song. Luckily I didn't die but I survived with medical PTSD and a body that often hurts. And that surgery? It didn't work.

Disclaimer: I have no experience with Chris Webby before this. I also listened to the whole thing straight through in one go bc of a long drive

Madhouse: 10/10. Absolutely jumpscared me with Ren howling at the beginning 🤣 It's pure chaos. It's fast, it's crazy, and fun to jam out to and rap along. Kind of an anticlimactic end though.

Instigator: 7/10. Catchy and chill.

Neurodivergent: 9.5/10. Catchy, fast, and fun vocals, classic Ren.

Down The Road: 10/10. Another jumpscare off the bat. Great pacing, and both artists did great with their parts.

Bad Company: 6/10. Chill, but this one didn't really rope me in much.

Asylum: 10/10. Pretty piece, I love the simplicity, and it is a bit repetitive, but I could listen to this on repeat for days. The lyrics really make you think. (Added bonus, no profanity so I can listen to it with my family!!!)

Me And My Monster: 8/10. Absolute bop, even if it's a calmer tempo instrument wise.

Smoking Gun: 5/10. Pretty repetitive. Has good humor though.

Tarantula: 7/10. Like SG, pretty repetitive. The last verse kicks it up a point.

Mason Jar: 7/10. Clever reference to the producer of the album in the chorus. Second half hits hard.

Silence: 9/10. Relateable first line. Pretty fast, good rhymes. F--cking shocking twist. I was expecting it to end like "silence.... sounds so- shut the f--k up" but somehow they went in a completely different direction and made it better.

Dr. Myers: 10/10. Great pace, interesting story that makes you really think about the lyrics like Asylum does.

Caskets: 9/10. Great message, and a good, contemplative addition to the album.

End Of The World: 8/10. A contemplative track yet again, yet with fun humor. Music video is hilarious.

Lunatic Lullaby: 10/10. The electric guitar is pulled out!!! Very serious once the lyrics start. Great thinking song. Chris doesn't get to speak in this track, but Ren absolutely drives the nail home.

yes, i know, this subreddit probably gets bombarded with this but just humour me.

ren uses ai for the cover art of a lot of the singles, and im extremely anti ai for art (obviously i think it can be used for good; like compiling data, censuses, etc) and yes, ive seen that ren has responded to this.

he stated:
"Hey guys, Ren here, the use of the artwork was put forward by my team who will occasionally lean on AI augmentation rather than full blown AI generation (starting with an image drawn and using AI after the fact) - I actually have two artists in full time employment, who would have been paid the same if they'd not used AI or used it, their salaries are full time rather than a per image basis, along with a whole team of creative behind that - but I realize on reflection its more about the message it puts out - I have my own thoughts about the usage which im super happy to get into in depth in a live to discuss I believe in open conversations about these things! . ultimately though it is me who okays these things though im not saying that to step away from accountability.

I'm taking this seriously on board though because I believe in community consensus on these things so while my views on it may differ slightly you will no longer see any A.I augmentation in music artwork for DSPs from this point forward"

for the record, i havent found a live stream where he states his views (if one exists please show) and all i could find was a tiktok where he talks about ai in general, not ai art (though i did agree with the things he said) so then whats my problem? that statement was six months ago, his newest singles use ai for the cover work. the first one using ai was 3 months ago; and the newest was this month (to be sure i put them through ai image checkers and most singles were confirmed to be ai) obviously its probably not ALL rens fault, he has a management and a team that probably also handle the cover work, though it still does sting.

and since i know nothing about the community since im a new fan the passive aggressiveness on everything does not help at all. its always "youre really gonna stop listening to a 'small' artist for that?", "its only the covers that use ai and not the music!" or something about ai being used as a tool and cameras originally being stigmatised in the same way (which is an argument that i find incredibly dumb but im not gonna go into that for its my opinion and even when taking in the account of it being used as a tool the covers look heavily influenced by the ai, not just light touchups.) and even if i did agree, im gonna be a bit petulant and bring up he did still use it despite saying he wouldnt (it may be against his will, but im an outsider looking in and im struggling to find any evidence of that)

i really wanna know more about this (apparently the impatient music video also uses ai, despite ren stating the company that made it is trustworthy and if they did use ai it would be above his knowledge. it honestly does seem atleast ai influenced, theres some artifacts too.) im also sorry if i came off as rude or ignorant in this, thats not my intention and im just curious because whenever i try to find more about it i just see either people trying to debate whether the use of ai in this case is moral, or people directing me to his original statement.

Do we know if there will be a colored vinyl/store exclusive at all vs the standard black? My anxiety makes me wanna order the standard that popped up today but also hoping a limited edition or even HOPEFULLY signed copies get dropped 😭 my apologies if this is already in discussion some place else 🙏🏼

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I'm still so hyped up. Don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight

Thanks to Tammy Blevans!

Basically in Jeremiah’s diary entry, I believe the lyrics on the screen were the exact way he was writing it, I think Ren did this to show the relationship that grew between Dr. Meyers and Jeramiah purely based on the fact that they spelt Meyers as Myers for the first few times. Either this or just a total flaw in the typing

I’m not 100% on this but I’m pretty sure it was mentioned in the chat of a recent premiere. And there has been some discussion about it. But now it seems only the standard black vinyl and they have yet to answer any questions about it on the stream.
Anyone know something I missed?

Now it can finally be shared! Thanks to Richard Quadling!

Thanks to Tammy Blevans!

His username is renmakestwitch

Thanks to Tammy Blevans!

Thanks to Tammy Blevans!

Thanks to Tammy Blevans!