Be prepared for a long battle. I think it might honestly be the hardest part of the document collection process. I've been in touch with this Army Lieutenant, and this guy refuses to issue the certificate because the arrival record last name is off by one letter (o instead of an e), like after showing the guy ALL the certified civil records proving the age/names are nearly identical to the arrival record. I think I bruised the guy's ego with too much logic... But also blame myself for giving TOO much context in my original request. I think it's smarter to just be as simple and barebones as possible with the request ("...para fins de defesa de direitos e esclarecimento de situação de interesse pessoal, nos termos da Lei nº 9.051/1995..."). Just venting, but thankfully know that you just need to get ONE military officer at any PRM or JSM to do the SERMILMOB search and issue the negative cert.

Is the process similarly a pain in the ass in the United States?

GGM:
• Date, place of birth: 17 January 1914, small village, Pinsk powiat, Polesie voivodeship, Poland (now Belarus)

**•** Ethnicity and religion: Nationality recorded inconsistently across documents — DP registration card shows “Polish” corrected in red ink to “Bialorussian.” Religion not confirmed

**•** Occupation: Not confirmed

**•** Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

**•** Date, destination for emigration: Arrived Australia February 1950, with children, via DP processing through a camp in Bavaria, Germany

**•** Date naturalized: Not confirmed on file

**•** Date, place of death: Not confirmed on file

GGF:
• Date, place of birth: Not confirmed (birthdate unknown; associated with same village area)
• Ethnicity and religion: Presumed Polish; religion not confirmed
• Occupation: Not confirmed
• Allegiance and dates of military service: Not confirmed — no record found of formal military service
• Date, destination for emigration: N/A — did not emigrate; died in Poland
• Date naturalized: N/A
• Date, place of death: Presumed killed near family village, c. October 1944 (civilian death during Soviet reoccupation; documented via wife’s sworn statement and a German civil register entry dated June 1946 — not an official death record)

Grandparent:
• Sex: Male
• Date, place of birth: 10 October 1939, Pinsk, Poland
• Date married: Melbourne, 1962
• Citizenship of spouse: Ukrainian/Soviet DP background
• Date divorced: Not applicable/not indicated
• Occupation: Listed as “Student” on 1958 naturalisation certificate
• Allegiance and dates of military service: Not confirmed
• Date, destination for emigration: Australia — note: discrepancy in records between a 1950 family arrival and a separately listed “1952” emigration date — unresolved
• Date naturalized: Certificate granted October 1957; oath sworn January 1958, regional Victorian town
• Date, place of death: 1984, Melbourne

Parent:
• Sex: Female
• Date, place of birth: Melbourne, December 1964
• Date married: Melbourne, June 1992
• Date divorced: NA

You:

**•** Date, place of birth: Melbourne, November 1992

As the above title suggest I am curious about citizenship by grant. I have already post on here and talked to Polaron about citizenship by descent and that seems highly unlikely. I would use the Karta Polaka but I would have to get endorsed through an organization or have my mother learn Polish and have her apply and then apply is she is successful.

Polaron sggested going the grant route stating they have a 80% success record. The price is something I am willing to pay over course. Any thoughts on this path? Any success stories?

Hello - I keep getting conflicting information, so I hope you all can help me find out if I am eligible for citizenship by descent

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: 04/23/1909

* Date divorced: n/a

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: 07/30/1891 - Nowa Weis Kolbuszowa

* Ethnicity and religion: White/Catholic

* Occupation: homemaker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: n/a

* Date, destination for emigration: 1906 - Connecticut

* Date naturalized: n/a

* Date, place of death: 09/17/1935 Connecticut

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: 06/13/1888 - Rogoznica

* Ethnicity and religion: white/catholic

* Occupation: factory worker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: n/a (registered for WW1 & WW2 draft under the USA)

* Date, destination for emigration: 01/24/1908 Connecticut

* Date naturalized: 06/28/1937

* Date, place of death: 10/09/1951 Connecticut

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: 10/22/1923 Connecticut

* Date married:03/18/1946

* Citizenship of spouse: American

* Date divorced: n/a

* Occupation: housewife

* Allegiance and dates of military service: USA WW2 Army Nurse

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration:
• Date naturalized:
• Date, place of death: 11/04/2015 Alabama

Parent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: 06/15/1947 alabama

* Date married: 08/23/1969

* Date divorced: n/a

You: 

* Date, place of birth: 08/11/1978 Alabama

My great-grandparents, Wlodzimierz Paszkiewicz and his wife Anna (née Halukiewicz), lived in the village of Bulgary (Bołhary), Lemieszewicze commune (gmina), Pinsk powiat, Polesie Voivodeship — this was interwar Poland, now part of Belarus.

I'm trying to trace:
- A possible civil marriage record for Wlodzimierz and Anna, likely registered under Polish administration sometime before 1939
- Any surviving gmina-level civil/residency records naming the Paszkiewicz or Halukiewicz families, 1919–1939

According to family history, Wlodzimierz was killed as a civilian near Bulgary around October 1944, during the Soviet reoccupation — this part falls outside the Polish administrative period, but I mention it for context since I'm trying to piece together everything about the family before that point.

So far I've used Szukaj w Archiwach (bare keyword searches were too noisy — exact-phrase search worked better) and contacted the Brest State Archive in Belarus directly, which holds the successor records for this exact commune (Fund 2015) but doesn't hold vital/civil status records themselves — those would be at NIAB Minsk.

Would appreciate any advice on:
- Where interwar Polesie Voivodeship civil records specifically might have ended up (I've seen conflicting info about whether Białystok's archive might hold some)
- Anyone with experience researching Kresy/Polesie-region families specifically
- Whether Polish civil marriage records from this era and region are likely to have survived at all, given the wartime destruction in this region

Any pointers appreciated — dziękuję!

Grandparent: 
* Sex: M
* Date, place of birth: January 6, 1922 (Warsaw)
* Date married: May 26, 1962
* Citizenship of spouse: Polish
* Date divorced: N/A
* Occupation: Architect
* Allegiance and dates of military service: Polish Home Army (WWII)
* Date, destination for emigration: September 27, 1958 (USA)
* Date naturalized: June 26, 1964 (USA)
* Date, place of death: July 27, 1994 (USA)

Grandparent: 
* Sex: F
* Date, place of birth: June 12, 1937 (Rawa Ruska)
* Date married: May 26, 1962
* Citizenship of spouse: Polish
* Date divorced: N/A
* Occupation: Homemaker
* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
* Date, destination for emigration: July 16, 1949 (USA)
* Date naturalized: August 27, 1971 (USA)
* Date, place of death: April 28, 2023 (USA)

Parent: 
* Sex: F
* Date, place of birth: October 28, 1966 (USA)
* Date married: August 29, 1992
* Date divorced: Late 1999

You: 
* Date, place of birth: January 12, 1997 (USA)

My mother and I are pursuing confirmation of Polish citizenship through her great-grandfather, and I’m trying to understand what evidence is needed to prove his right of domicile, or prawo swojszczyzny.

He was born in Gawłów, near Bochnia, in Austrian Galicia in 1892. I have certified physical copies of:

• his birth record
• both of his parents’ birth records
• his parents’ marriage record

He emigrated to the United States in 1913 and died in 1957 without naturalizing. I also have a certified copy of his 1942 AR-2 Alien Registration form, where he states that he had never naturalized and identifies his citizenship as Polish.

Would this combination of records usually be enough to establish that he acquired Polish citizenship in 1920 through domicile in a commune that became part of Poland? Or would I still need a separate municipal record proving commune membership?

If additional records are necessary, does anyone know where commune-membership registers or similar records from the Bochnia area between roughly 1900 and 1940 might be held?

I have found conflicting explanations. Some suggest that several generations of birth and marriage records from the same village might be enough, but others say direct proof of municipal affiliation is required. I would love any input, especially from anyone who has handled a confirmation case involving the former Austrian partition. Thank you!

Great-Grandparents: 
* Date married: 1900
* Date divorced: N/A

GGM: 
* Date, place of birth: 1877, Blizne, Galicia (present Poland) 
* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Roman Catholic 
* Occupation: Housewife
* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
* Date, destination for emigration: N/A
* Date naturalized: N/A
* Date, place of death: 1947, Blizne

GGF: 
* Date, place of birth: ~ 1870s
* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Roman Catholic 
* Occupation: Farmer
* Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown
* Date, destination for emigration: N/A
* Date naturalized: N/A
* Date, place of death: Unknown, Blizne 

Grandparent: 
* Sex: M 
* Date, place of birth: 1903, Blizne, Galicia (present Poland)
* Date married: August 1930
* Citizenship of spouse: American 
* Date divorced: N/A
* Occupation: auto factory worker 
* Allegiance and dates of military service: Polish Army 1924-1926
(If applicable)
Date, destination for emigration: December 1927, Michigan, USA 
Date naturalized: May 1934
Date, place of death: 1963, Michigan

Parent: 
* Sex: F
* Date, place of birth: 1940, Michigan
* Date married: 1969
* Date divorced: N/A

You: 
* Date, place of birth: 1971, Michigan 

Hello. Happy to have found this group. I’m fairly certain I’m eligible based on what I’ve researched, but would appreciate the group weighing in to make sure I have not missed anything that could be problematic. I do have my grandfather’s original Polish passport and his książeczka wojskowa. His birth certificate from Poland just arrived in the mail today. Working on gathering other documents, but before I get too far would appreciate any insight. Thank you.

Hi everyone,

I had previously posted about trying to get certified copies of documents (visa application) for my grandfather, who immigrated in 1959. Because this is too late for USCIS Genealogy or NARA records, everything is provided digitally.

I sent some emails to FOIA-provided addresses requesting paper copies of both his visa application and their "letter of no records" for a naturalization certificate.

FOIA replied saying they would send me a hard copy of the visa application. However, what they actually sent is a CD : / so no luck there.

EDIT: apparently CD is acceptable, thanks commenters!

For the letter of no records, FOIA replied saying they cannot provide a paper copy of a letter of no records, they are digital-only.

Posting just in case this helps anyone else - based on my experience, there is no way to get a paper copy of a USCIS record that is later than what's available through the Genealogy program (1944 or 1956.)

My provider is hoping this will be okay because the main purpose of these docs is just to prove my grandfather didn't become a citizen before 1951, but we will see!

How should I organize my documents. This is a pre-1920 case and my brother and I applying together. I have about 20 supporting documents that include vital records and military records as along with translations for everything. I would like to make sure it is easy to navigate.

Can I place documents in clear plastic covers and organize in a book? Such as a business presentation?

Should everything just be placed in separate folders with no plastic?

I know I am not supposed to staple anything.

Thank you

Badam obecnie sprawę dotyczącą obywatelstwa z początku lat 60. i liczę na opinie osób, które mają doświadczenie z dawnymi niemieckimi dokumentami stanu cywilnego oraz z zasadami dziedziczenia obywatelstwa.

Chodzi o akt urodzenia Radosława B., urodzonego w 1961 roku. W dokumencie znajdują się — oprócz standardowych danych — również wzmianki sądowe z 1963 i 1965 roku, które odnoszą się do ustalenia jego statusu rodzinno‑prawnego. W akcie znajduje się także wpis o chrzcie z 1961 roku, dokonany w parafii katolickiej, wraz z datą chrztu i danymi rodziców chrzestnych.

Istotne jest to, że ojciec dziecka, Wojciech B., był w tym czasie obywatelem polskim, natomiast matka, Marianna K., była obywatelką niemiecką. Rodzice zawarli małżeństwo w 1963 roku, czyli po urodzeniu dziecka.

W dokumentach pojawiają się wzmianki sądowe, które mogą wskazywać na legitymację dziecka — czyli nadanie mu statusu małżeńskiego poprzez późniejsze zawarcie małżeństwa rodziców lub poprzez decyzję sądu. Nie jest jednak jasne, jak dokładnie interpretować te wpisy w kontekście ówczesnych przepisów dotyczących obywatelstwa.

Moje pytanie do forum brzmi:

Jakie przepisy dotyczące obywatelstwa polskiego obowiązywały na początku lat 60. w przypadku dziecka urodzonego z ojca będącego obywatelem Polski i matki będącej obywatelką Niemiec?

W szczególności interesuje mnie, czy legitymacja dziecka (jeśli została dokonana) miała wpływ na jego obywatelstwo według ówczesnego prawa polskiego.

To evaluate your eligibility for confirmation of citizenship, Karta Polaka, or a Polish origin visa, please fill out the following template. To ensure a clear and accurate evaluation, please create a separate post for each lineage decisive for your claim:

Great-Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: 09/28/1908

* Date divorced: N/A Seperated

GGGM: 

* Blazowa, Poland

* Polish Catholic

* Occupation: Homemaker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: 1905, USA

* Date naturalized: Unknown

* Date, place of death: USA 1974

GGGF: 

* 05/15/1886 Austria Poland

* Polish, Catholic

* Occupation: Carpenter Wright

* Allegiance and dates of military service: USA Draft Card 1942

* Date, destination for emigration: USA 1909/1905

* Date naturalized: Yes date/unknown

* Death: 1963 New York, USA

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married:

* Date divorced:

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: 1917, USA

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish America/ Catholic

* Occupation: Keeping house

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: N/A

* Date naturalized: N/A

* Date, place of death: USA 2008

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: 1914, USA

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish American/ Catholic

* Occupation: Machinist

* Allegiance and dates of military service: USA Draft Card 1940-1947

* Date, destination for emigration: N/A

* Date naturalized: N/A

* Date, place of death: 1996, USA

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: USA 1942

* Date married: 1963

* Citizenship of spouse: America

* Date divorced: N/A

* Occupation: Mill Wright

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration: N/A
• Date naturalized: N/A
• Date, place of death: N/A

Parent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: USA, 1966

* Date married: 1985

* Date divorced: N/A

You: 

* Date, place of birth: 1996, USA

I'm a Brazilian national. My anchor ancestor is my great-great-grandfather, who emigrated from the Russian partition in 1890 — before Polish independence. He never naturalized in Brazil.

Great-Grandparents:
Date married: May 1887, Łódź, Kingdom of Poland, Russian Empire

GGF:
Date, place of birth: February 10, 1854, Zakrzew, Jeziorsko parish, powiat turecki, Kingdom of Poland, Russian Empire
Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Roman Catholic
Occupation: Farmer (gospodarz) — confirmed in son's birth record (1882)
Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown. No evidence of service found.
Date, destination for emigration: October 19, 1890 — Brazil (Port of Rio de Janeiro, vessel Weser, departed Bremen)
Date naturalized: Never — confirmed by official Negative Naturalization Certificate (CNN) issued by Brazilian Ministry of Justice, dated March 19, 2026
Date, place of death: September 30, 1941, Criciúma, Santa Catarina, Brazil

GGM:
Date, place of birth: Unknown
Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Roman Catholic (assumed)
Occupation: Unknown
Date, destination for emigration: Presumed October 1890, Brazil (with husband)
Date naturalized: Unknown
Date, place of death: Unknown

Grandparent: great-grandfather in Brazilian terms
Sex: Male
Date, place of birth: ~1898, Urussanga, Santa Catarina, Brazil (estimated from death certificate — birth certificate being sought)
Date married: Unknown
Citizenship of spouse: Brazilian
Occupation: Unknown
Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
Date naturalized: N/A — born in Brazil
Date, place of death: March 25, 1975, Cambé, Paraná, Brazil

Parent: grandfather
Sex: Male
Date, place of birth: September 9, 1938, Criciúma, Santa Catarina, Brazil
Date married: February 11, 1966
Citizenship of spouse: Brazilian
Occupation: Farmer
Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
Date naturalized: N/A — born in Brazil
Date, place of death: Still living

Parent: father
Sex: Male
Date, place of birth: December 2, 1967, Brazil
Date married: September 23, 1995
Date divorced: N/A

You:
Date, place of birth: December 18, 2000, Cambé, Paraná, Brazil

Key question: qualify under Article 2 of the 1920 Act via the right to be enrolled in the księgi stałych mieszkańców of Zakrzew — even though he was in Brazil by 1920? And how does the Treaty of Riga (Art. VI, 30 April 1921 deadline) affect this case, given that he was abroad and left no record of opting for Polish citizenship?

Do I have any legitimacy for claiming Polish citizenship through my ancestry?

Great-Grandparents: 
* Date married: 1938

GGM: 
* Date, place of birth: 1871, Galicia, Austria Hungarian empire
* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, catholic
* Occupation: N/A
* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
* Date, destination for emigration: 1890, Massachusetts
* Date naturalized: Never
* Date, place of death: Chicopee, Massachusetts
GGF: 
* Date, place of birth: 1872, Galicia, Austria Hungarian empire
* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, catholic
* Occupation: fireman
* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
* Date, destination for emigration: 1890, Massachusetts
* Date naturalized: Never
* Date, place of death: Chicopee, Massachusetts
Grandparent: 
* Sex: female
* Date, place of birth: 1939, Chicopee Massachusetts
* Date married: 1959
* Citizenship of spouse: American
* Date divorced: N/A
* Occupation: Seamstress
* Allegiance and dates of military service:
(If applicable) N/A
Date, destination for emigration: N/A
Date naturalized: N/A
Date, place of death: 1999, Chicopee Massachusetts
Parent: 
* Sex: female
* Date, place of birth: 1960, Chicopee Massachusetts
* Date married: N/A
* Date divorced: N/A
You: 

* Date, place of birth:

1993, Chicopee Massachusetts

I'm curious as I don't know if I'm eligible for citizenship, which I hope I am. Below is the lineage template.

Great-Great-Grandparents:

* Date married:1910

* Date divorced: Never

GGGM:

* Date, place of birth: Jaslo, Podkarpackie

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Catholic

* Occupation: Seamstress

* Allegiance and dates of military service: None

* Date, destination for emigration: 1907, Rhode Island Via New York and Bremen

* Date naturalized: about 1940s

* Date, place of death: 1962, Rhode Island

GGGF:

* Date, place of birth: 1882, Opacionka, Podkarpackie

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Catholic

* Occupation: Farm Laborer

* Allegiance and dates of military service: None

* Date, destination for emigration: 1906 Rhode Island Via New York and Hamburg

* Date naturalized: Never

* Date, place of death: 1953, Rhode Island

Great-Grandparents:

* Date married: 1944

* Date divorced: Never

GGM:

* Date, place of birth: 1920

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish American, Catholic

* Occupation: Teaching Assistant later in life

* Allegiance and dates of military service: None

* Date, destination for emigration: None

* Date naturalized: Natural Born US

* Date, place of death: 1990

GGF:

* Date, place of birth: 1921, Rhode Island

* Ethnicity and religion: Swedish American, Protestant

* Occupation: Lineman/Electricians Mate 3rd Class

* Allegiance and dates of military service: USA, May 1943 - 1945

* Date, destination for emigration: Natural Born US

* Date naturalized: Natural Born US

* Date, place of death: Providence, 1949

Grandparent:

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: Rhode Island 1943

* Date married: 1968

* Citizenship of spouse: USA

* Date divorced: maybe 1981

* Occupation: Teacher

* Allegiance and dates of military service: None

Parent:

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: 1978, USA

* Date married: 2003

* Date divorced:

You:

* Date, place of birth: USA, 1999

From my research, Austrian polish had the Heimatrect, or right of domicile, which granted anyone who held that (generally had it if born in the region) were granted citizenship at the formation of the 2nd polish Republic. Does this mean I can qualify for polish citizenship?

I can't find birth records from state archives, so I'm reaching out to the parish that he was from, as well as archdiocese. If that's not recoverable, are the USCIS Resident Alien Status and Ship Manifests and Letters of Non-Retrieval from those diocese, Parish, and State Archives valid?

Edit: a now non-existent comment made me feel a need to clarify, my Great Grandparents married a year after my grandmother was born, not before.

Where else might I find records documenting Polish citizenship in the early 1920s?

I'm hoping someone can suggest a record source or archive I may have overlooked.

My great-grandfather, his wife, and his mother-in-law were all issued Polish passports before emigrating to the U.S. in June 1921. They were also issued visas by the American consulate in Warsaw for travel to the U.S. I have photos of the ID pages from all three passports, including their passport numbers and visas, but that’s it.

Unfortunately, for a Polish citizenship confirmation case, photos of the passports are not considered sufficient legal evidence of citizenship. I know opines of the passports would not survive in an archive, but assuming the passports for which I have photos are legitimate, there must have been some sort of paper trail somewhere showing their citizenship?

What I know: - Born in 1893 in Kossovo (Kosów Poleski), Grodno Governorate, Russian Empire (now Kosava, Belarus). His father and siblings also lived and owned property and paid taxes here. - Served in the Russian Imperial Army (documented in a 1915 RGVIA record) without mention of citizenship - Lived in Bereza Kartuska from approximately 1917 until emigrating in June 1921. He was married here in 1918. The family also appears in an 1874 census (before his birth) from this area. - Naturalized in the U.S. in 1928

Already searched/contacted: - National Historical Archive in Grodno (found some records related to my ancestor’s father and siblings with the help of a genealogist, but no records list my ancestor by name) - Brest Oblast Archive - State Archive in Białystok - AGAD - AAN - Central Military Archives (CAW/WBH) - JewishGen - JRI-Poland - USCIS, NARA, and his passenger arrival record (none mention his Polish passport or visa)

Has anyone encountered another source for documents showing how someone who lived in Bereza Kartuska might have demonstrated Polish citizenship to obtain a Polish passport around 1921?

I realize my odds of finding anything are very low given the loss of records from the interwar period, but I am not fully ready to give up the search. I highly appreciate any suggestions, even if they're a long shot.

Out of my own interest, I'm reading l. rej. 2086/25 Nr. 1240. and I came across this:

According to Article 2 of the Act of January 20, 1920 (Journal of Laws, item 44), upon its promulgation, Polish citizenship is held by a person who is settled in the territory of the Polish State or who was born in the territory of the Polish State – in both cases, provided they do not hold the citizenship of another state.

Furthermore, it must be noted that the complainant, in her appeal to the Voivode, also invoked the fact that her husband was born in the Chełm district. Since the fact of being born in the territory of Poland may, pursuant to Article 2(2) of the Act of January 20, 1920 (Journal of Laws, item 44) and on the basis of Article 4 of the Treaty between the Principal Allied and Associated Powers and Poland, signed in Versailles on June 28, 1919 (Journal of Laws, item 728), constitute a title to acquiring Polish citizenship.

If this is the case, doesn't that mean that anyone who could prove in anyway that they were born on the territory of the Kingdom of Poland/Congress Poland and did not acquire citizenship of another country would automatically become citizens of Poland...in a way, Jus Soli?

Great-Grandparents:

• Date married: May 19, 1923 Massachusetts, USA
• Date divorced: No

GGM

• Date, place of birth: Feb 10, 1900, Gumniska (powiat Ropczyce, Galicia)
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish*, Catholic*
• Occupation: Housewife
• Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
• Date, destination for emigration: Sept - Oct 1920, to America - Aug 19, 1920; US visa at American Consulate Warsaw Sept 20, 1920)
• Date naturalized: Never naturalized (registered as alien under the 1940 Alien Registration Act)
• Date, place of death: March 18, 1986, MA

GGF

• Date, place of birth: Oct 4, 1896 Korczyna, Krosno county, Galicia
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish*, Catholic*
• Occupation: heat treater
• Allegiance and dates of military service: Polish Army in France (Armia Polska we Francyi) discharged "z czynnej służby" by the Polish Ministry of Military Affairs, Warsaw, March 18, 1920
• Date, destination for emigration: Between 1911–1918
• Date naturalized: Sept 26, 1929
• Date: Feb 9, 1965, MA

Grandparent

• Sex: Male
• Date, place of birth: Nov 15, 1936, in wedlock
• Date married: 1959
• Citizenship of spouse: US
• Date divorced: No
• Occupation: Steam Worker
• Allegiance and dates of military service: No
• Date, destination for emigration: N/A (US-born)
• Date naturalized: N/A
• Date, place of death: Nov 2016

Parent:

• Sex: F
• Date, place of birth: Nov 26 1967 USA
• Date married: 1989
• Date divorced: No

You:

• 1995 US In Wedlock

Curious on eligibility. I believe citizenship can only be passed down by Father during this time? GGM never naturalized in US and had Alien card.

From GGF side. Main question is in relation to dates and whether the military paradox applies here. I have his military discharge release and it releases him only "z czynnej służby" - from active service, which I read as transfer to reserve, not release from the obligation.

Theory: Under this he remained within the military obligation until May 28, 1950, so the 1929 naturalization didn't cause loss, and citizenship passed to my grandfather at birth in 1936?

I needed a birthplace document I.e. passport, birth certificate for my grandfather in Grodno. I was unable to locate his exact birth certificate, but I was able to find his 4 siblings.

Is there still a way I can prove he was born in Poland, or his father was, so I can still receive citizenship? Are these sibling’s birth certificate helpful? I have plenty of documentation showing they are a family in the United States.

Great-Grandparents: Unsure, most records were lost

Grandparent:

• Sex: F
• Date, place of birth: 1924, Kalisz, Poland
• Date married: 1947, United States
• Citizenship of spouse: US
• Date divorced: Was divorced but unsure when, never remarried (could find out if it's pertinent)
• Occupation: None, housewife
• Allegiance and dates of military service: none; never in any armed forces, never in the Polish Armed Forces under British command, never PKPR (MOD no-trace letters requested)
• Date, destination for emigration: approx. 1947, US
• Date naturalized: Still researching. I was able to find her on a US census in 1950 which stated that she was not a citizen
• Date, place of death: 2001, US

Parent:

• Sex: F
• Date, place of birth: Feb, 1951, US (in wedlock)
• Date married: US, 1985
• Date divorced: no

You:

• Date, place of birth: 1992, US (in wedlock)

Main question (and background):

My maternal grandmother was a holocaust refugee who fled Poland in the 1930s with her father. Her mother and sister were both captured and killed by the Nazi government. My grandmother eventually made it to France where she met a US soldier and together they emigrated to the US and were married in 1947.

Based on my understanding and limited research there are two potential citizenship rules in play:

1. A Polish woman who married a foreign man loses their citizenship: I have read that this only applies if, as part of marriage, citizenship of the spouses nation immediately transferred. In the US, citizenship does not transfer via marriage.
2. The pre 1951 naturalization in another country: I am still researching this one, as far as the records I have found show, she was not a citizen in 1950 and so I am hopeful she did not become a citizen until 1951 or later.
3. Not sure if it matters but my mother is the second child and the first was born prior to 1951

Assuming 1, 2, 3 do not disqualify me, if I were to find the right papers, would I have a chance of citizenship?

Sorry if this has already been discussed, couldn't find anything in search.

I emailed the Mazowieckie office asking for a number to track my application status and I got a response this morning saying that they didn't have it in the system:

W odpowiedzi na zapytanie uprzejmie informuję, że w systemie nie odnaleziono Pani wniosku

I submitted my application (myself) through the Consulate in New York last year in February. Around July (also last year) they called and asked for more money for postage, stating that it would be going out soon. In December, I received my Polish birth certificate in the mail. After seeing a post here about tracking their case, I contacted the office in search of a tracking number.

I know they're still working on the 2024 batch, does the lack of tracking number just mean that they haven't gotten to look at mine yet? Should I be concerned or just be patient?

Thanks!