r/okbuddycinephile 7h ago

A historically accurate adaptation of 'The Odyssey'

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u/TheDrDzaster 3h ago

Linguistic homogeny is a product of 19th century nationalism lmaooo

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u/Warm-Professional494 3h ago

Latin enters the chat.

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u/TechMaster008 3h ago

vro latin was only really spoke widely by common people in the, y'know, west. there's a much stronger point for greek in the east. even then most people just spoke their native languages, besides the upper class which often had more assimilation for various reasons

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u/Warm-Professional494 3h ago

Never said Latin was spoken everywhere. It was an example. Greek was not spoken in the far east… see what I did?

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u/TechMaster008 3h ago

eastern rome, dumbass, why would i be talking about asia. it's a bad and tired example

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u/Warm-Professional494 2h ago

When did I say only rome?

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u/WeAreBums 2h ago

you’re doing a weird schtick

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u/TechMaster008 2h ago

then dude what the fuck are you even talking about

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u/boRp_abc 3h ago

Latin was a language for religion, international relations and politics. That's why most historic documents are Latin. It's safe to assume that well over 90% of people didn't speak or understand it.

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u/Warm-Professional494 3h ago

Safe to assume? People went to church and in church was all latin. Latin has been taught in religious schools and in some countries in regular schools up thru the 1970’s.

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u/Evepaul 2h ago

Weren't the inability of most people to understand church and the question of whether to translate the bible into common languages quite a big deal at one point?

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u/Lancasterbation 2h ago

Yeah, that's kinda the crux of Martin Luther's beef.

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u/boRp_abc 2h ago

And until after medieval times, 90% of people didn't go to school at all, which is exactly my point.

It's a bit much to translate the correct terms into English, but in 813 the council of the Catholic Church decided that religion should be taught in regional languages as well, because simple people don't speak Latin. That's why I wrote "safe to assume" people didn't speak Latin - the church wrote about that themselves.

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u/Crafty_Independence 3h ago

This is woefully simplistic. Alexander effectively established koine Greek as the lingua franca (another pre-19th century example) of the Mediterranean basin and as far away as Scythia and Persia.

Local dialects sometimes persisted, but many died out long before the middle ages.

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u/SandorsCock 1h ago

Any historical explanation that isn’t 300 pages long with an annotated bib is woefully simplistic.