That's fine, because the Sirens in the actual Odyssey have the heads of women and the bodies of birds, so we can have all the naked birds on screen we like and not even have to spend money on jiggle physics.
It used to be very important in American society, in the late 19th century and early 20th. There were WASP societies, and anti immigrant sentiment was largely based around the idea of keeping the US as WASP as possible.
The Cohens made it clear they had never even read The Odyssey. They used what they thought the Odyssey was about and used that as the structure.
Also, straight white dudes were still enough on top that they didn't have to go looking for things to get mad about because the world hadn't yet showed them their mediocracy.
uj/ is it? It’s so far removed, stylistically, with no trappings of historically-accurate context, that there couldn’t be any confusion that it was an homage/reinterpretation. Then again, if it was released now, maybe we would see some idiotic pushback.
Honestly my biggest problem with the Nolan Odyssey was how grounded the monsters were. The cyclops never spoke, Scylla was barely seen, and the sirens weren't seen at all.
I honestly can't imagine what a "historically accurate" version would look like
I mean all jokes aside Mel Gibson does produce and direct some bangers of movies. He would do a good job if he was passionate about it. I think it would cost a lot more than 100 million though lol
Btw. If it's mythology about certain timeframe in history. They you portray that accurately... It's not like, "loch ness" is a monster, ok now let's do a movie about the myth of a monster sighting in a certain time, but portray everything about that time wrong...
Right?
Same with egyptian mythology, who cares if a single thing in there looks egyptian.
Might also shoot it in germany, the climate is way better than all this stupid sand and heat.
Also Pyramids are just buildings, can just take a church instead.
People do get their impressions of history from film and television. That's why medievalists have spent decades pushing back against the myth that medieval peasants ate dung all day and never bathed. And it's not like the thousands of people who see The Odyssey are all going to go diving into history textbooks or the original text afterwards to correct any misperceptions.
It's silly to just say it's entertainment and therefore cannot be criticised for historical accuracy. There's no reason why something cannot be entertaining and accurate simultaneously.
Braveheart is a fun film but it's a fucking abysmal depiction of Scottish history and I'll go to my grave making fun of that.
When you get past the generic description of a past event, documented or reported history is largely subjective. Historically accurate from which point of view?
Of course, that's what historiography is for - to compare and debate based on available evidence.
But just because we don't have unanimous agreement on every aspect of a period of history doesn't mean you shouldn't even try, even based on the majority view.
We don't even have 100% agreement on all aspects of the Second World War, but you'd probably still notice if the Americans were driving Tesla Cybertrucks on Omaha Beach.
What exact parts of the Odyssey do you think are historical, and what's your evidence for that? I think the best we've got are some bronze age palace foundation remnants at Sparta, which we could imagine are the setting for the scenes of Telemachus visiting Helen and Menelaus.
I'm fascinated to see them pull off all these "painstakingly accurate" depictions with only a $100m budget.
We don't even have to talk about mythical creatures, you're gonna make period accurate ships, armor, weapons, and shit and you don't think that's gonna be incredibly expensive?
I dont like this argument because a work of fiction can be very historically grounded but still have fantasy. Like Robert Eggers' films, where he creates accurate outfits down to the very threads, and everything that is blurry in the background has to be period accurate too, but they're still about witches, or mermaids, or something (I don't know, I don't watch movies). I would very much be down with a period accurate Beowulf for example (if I'd ever watch a movie).
it is the same when people have fantasy tv shows and then point out something that has no logic and people like you come out to say it is a fantasy show.
You silly... Historically accurate means that they are blue eyed and blond haired vikings who speak American English, have dehydrated bodies to show off their gymbro muscles and only eat meat, and don't do anything that isn't manly and hetero... like show emotions other than blind rage and patriotism.
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u/Garthmetro 7h ago
Fascinated to see the historically accurate giant man eating Cyclops. Or witches. Or sea monsters