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u/Fickle_Definition351 9h ago
Bottom one is the modern equivalent of those Star Trek planet scenes from the 60s
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u/OttoandOllie 8h ago
I was actually thinking why not just film at Vasquez rocks like Star Trek and have a real environment
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u/keksmuzh 7h ago
Or the rock quarry half of all Tokusatsu fights are filmed in
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u/OttoandOllie 7h ago
I have absolutely no idea what Tokusatsu is. Is it related to Anbo-jyutsu, the ultimate evolution of human martial arts?
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u/keksmuzh 7h ago
Well now I need to track down whatever the fuck this is because that’s incredible
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u/OttoandOllie 7h ago
I told ya, it's the ultimate evolution of human martial arts!
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u/dirtydigs74 7h ago
Well that was, without equivocation, the ultimate evolution of human martial art. Even got a rare "hachidan kiritsu" move thrown in at the end.
Edit: I'd go so far as to say that that was the best showcase video for Anbo-jyutsu I've ever seen.
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u/OttoandOllie 7h ago
People are like "mma this" and "ufc that" but those feeble wimps cower in comparison.
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u/Wardog_E 6h ago edited 3h ago
Its a japanese company reknowned for TV shows featuring Monster of the Week type plots and practical effect fights since like the 80s. They're probably most well known for what is known around the world as the Power Rangers.
The number of different shows theyve produced and their influence is staggering.
Edit: Turns out I dont know anything and am spreadimg misinformation. Sorry everyone.
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u/fimbultyr_odin 7h ago
Because when they filmed it, they didn't know what background environment they would want in the editing room.
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u/JohnBrownEnthusiast 7h ago
Because Dune is no fun allowed and Avengers The Next One they are hanging out with Moses judging from the water
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u/hewlio 6h ago
It actually gets worse, they filmed at a real location using green screens, only that it was Bahrain and they made a deal with the dictator of that country so that the police and military would help with the paparazzi:
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u/OttoandOllie 5h ago
So it looks like cgi AND costs more?? I need to get into the movie biz, it sounds like an easy scam, lol.
Maybe it's he elder Millenial in me but I wish we could go back to sfx circa 2005ish.
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers is the pinnacle of movie sfx. A perfect mix of live effects, models, and cgi. Please can we go back to then?
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u/berlinbaer 5h ago
don't see vanessa kirby or the dude from GIRLS in any of these, so i assume they shot them seperately somewhere else ?
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u/Positive-Record-7219 5h ago
Sometimes I feel like they were not in the same place. Just go to the same quarry every sci Fi show goes to. Do they not have like, infinite money? (Not infinite, but a lot more than stargate, star trek, Dr. Who...)
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u/WeeTooLo 8h ago
Can't wait to see the ocean part and them instantly walking on dry land devoid of any sea plants at what appears to be like 100ft of depth.
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u/Gingevere 5h ago
It's so much worse.
At least the star trek sets had some interesting scenery for the actors to interact with and move around in.
These shots are all filmed on a volume so the scene is set in the dead center of a 75 foot wide immobile featureless disk and all background detail is locked behind a wall 40 feet from the camera.
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u/Shoddy_Newspaper_718 9h ago
You cannot convince me that any of the actors in Doomsday have shot their scenes together.
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u/LakyousSama 9h ago
Obvious given how far apart they're standing
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u/Shoddy_Newspaper_718 9h ago edited 6h ago
They had to, though. Letitia Wright is a staunch anti-vaxxer, so they shot all the scenes involving her iconic breakthrough character, Shuri, separately.
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u/BwanaTarik 9h ago
I can’t take Shuri seriously. And her posture here looks like she’s never once done a push up
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u/Shoddy_Newspaper_718 9h ago edited 8h ago
Don't care about the physique of a cartoon character, but they made a boom-boom by not making Lupita the new superhero.
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u/Minttu_Pipar 8h ago
Or Gurira
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u/Eagle4317 8h ago
Or recasting a different actor for T'Challa, especially with the multiverse. Hell, that's the perfect excuse to bring back Michael B. Jordan.
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u/Krillinlt DonCheadleAMA 8h ago
Just have Don Cheadle also play T'Challa.
"Look, it's me, I'm here, deal with it"
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u/XeroShyft 7h ago
I've been saying for years that I don't understand the choice to not do a multiverse thing and make a killmonger that's still alive BP somehow. Maybe they had that idea and Michael B. Jordan turnes it down or something, I don't know, but it's such an obvious layup that it seems intentional to not do it.
Shit we brought back RDJ and Evans, it really wouldn't hurt to bring back MBJ.
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u/Shoddy_Newspaper_718 7h ago
Maybe MBJ just isn't interested in doing, essentially, the same movie in a parking lot in Atlanta, every year for the next decade or two.
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u/Rare_Economics8427 7h ago
Black Panther comes with so much more pressure than iron man or cap, and would be a replacement due to death not firing or retirement. I could absolutely see a lot of actors turning it down if they were asked to do it
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u/YizWasHere 6h ago
Lmao T'Challa comes back as Michael B. Jordan like "Yeah bro was too handsome to waste, I had to use some new hidden Wakanda tech to steal his face after he died."
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u/THROWRA_al_Camp_9263 7h ago
I hate when cinema does that. Woman can do all these things, they can get abs and look muscular and be strong fighters.
But we cant actually show that though.
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u/Quackadacck 2h ago
I hated her character since the first Black Panther, I can’t stand the child genius but also kind of snooty about it-type.
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u/CreamPuzzleheaded300 7h ago
Now im self conscious about my posture
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u/Radical-Bruxism 6h ago
Look up anterior pelvic tilt and do some exercises for it. I had it SO bad from years of sitting at the computer lol. Still have to work on it even though I have a physical job bc I game on my days off.
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u/amazing_asstronaut 5h ago
Ugh and she's supposed to play a genius scientific mind. Makes me sick. Pathetic anti vaxers.
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u/pinkycatcher 6h ago
This was such a self-own. Michael B Jordan was right there, already established. Bring him in from an alternate universe or something.
Really his character would have been a better story kept alive and as ambassador and helping out people in the first place.
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u/Mallow-Grit 8h ago
Social distancing rules are still going strong in Marvel phase 6 aparently. Looks like a classic zoom meeting where nobody wants to turn on their camera properly.
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u/AppalachianMusic 8h ago
Alan Cumming said this. You would act out your scenes with stand-ins in morph suits and fake names taped to them so you could do your scenes without actually knowing what characters or actors you were in the scene with. You know. For maximum secrecy. Or the fact they wrote this movie as they made it.
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u/Prophet_Tenebrae 7h ago
Actors truly give their best performances when they have absolutely no idea where they are, who they are talking to or what is going on.
The next logical step is for everyone to just do mocap in sensory deprivation tanks. Possibly while in a coma.
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u/Shoddy_Newspaper_718 6h ago
Sir Ian McKellen, breaking up and crying while in a completely green room, surrounded by the ping-pong balls with the names of all Dwarves...
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u/Prophet_Tenebrae 6h ago
That's probably going to be the ur example of alienating actors from the process for many years to come.
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u/WHATYEAHOK 6h ago
ur example
I thought this was broken English at first and then ended up learning something. Thank you!
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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday 7h ago
Given that he spilled these beans, I am 99% sure his character has a tiny screentime and will be off-ed quickly.
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u/Bud90 3h ago
Was it like this in Infinity War? I want to be excited for Doomsday but it really feels like a OOOO LOOK AT THIS Ooo from the trailer
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u/AppalachianMusic 3h ago
I think it was to a much lesser extent. From what I remember from stories of the shoot they did have stand-ins for certain scenes that were edited out later and replaced with the real actor. But that was mostly to due with the large high profile cast and schedules not lining up and less to do with flying by the seat of their pants.
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u/Great-Trifle2810 4h ago
If you have to keep the plot that secret your movie is dogshit, and not worth watching imo. A good story needs to work even if you know what is going to happen, and the trailer spoils who is in the movie anyway.
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u/Blazured 8h ago
The unfinished leaked scenes confirms that they didn't. At least for certain group scenes.
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u/FatherDotComical 4h ago
In order to prevent leaks and keep the acting as authentic as possible we blindfolded all of the actors, moved them to a remote location, and didn't give them a script. We told them to say things that vaguely fit their character and a couple quips we can put in the trailer. It sure was expensive and a pain in the ass to CGI out all the blindfolds but it sure was worth it in the end.
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u/KingToiletBrush512 9h ago
Death, taxes, and this sub spamming tim robinson gifs for no reason
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u/ImAdri0nY0urN0t 9h ago
David Lynch screaming "Where's the horizon?!"
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u/thr1ceuponatime approved virgin 9h ago
When the horizon's at the bottom, it's interesting. When the horizon's at the top, it's interesting. When the horizon's in the middle, it's boring as shit!
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u/ytaqebidg 8h ago
Why does Doomsday feel like it was shot in a backyard? The scale feels really small.
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u/Snowappletini 8h ago
Bad cinematography and overreliance on star power. The Disney way.
Edit: By the overreliance I mean they shot these movies in a way you can always see the actor's face, making the shots tighter and constrained.
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u/Marble05 7h ago
Also the actors are always in neat scenes full body visible. Every group scene must have them standing far apart so they can always be recognized, mid fight they'll still be pristine in the eyes of the camera.
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u/bandit4loboloco 8h ago
It's Disney, so they probably used The Volume, which is warehouse sized at best. If you film that wrong, it feels small.
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u/SaggyBollock 6h ago
I worked on a fight sequence on it last summer at Pinewood. And a few other second unit bits.
Imagine a set the size of a football pitch. Surrounded by blue screen.
I was there for months.
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u/HikariAnti 6h ago
This is literally just skill issue (and probably time). People made amazing movies with literal painted backgrounds, you can't get much more constrained than that.
Volume is an amazing tool but it's often used awfully, it's like someone used a generic UE5 background and shoot it on an iPhone.
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u/IAmGeeButtersnaps 4h ago
It's why every room looks like a semi circle even when they aren't in a room
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u/Prestigious_Leg2229 3h ago
That’s nothing new. MCU turned civil war into a couple of guys having a scuffle in a parking lot.
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u/AceOBlade 3h ago
so like they built up this character as their main villain for years, hyped the shit out of him. And the mf playing him decided to get physical with his girlfriend, and crumbled the entire phase of movies that were supposed to be for him.
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u/KevinPigaChu 8h ago
Where is the circlejerk
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u/sarathsps 8h ago
Every movie mcu descending into CW tier, They literally look like they unboxed their cosplay five minutes ago. zero scuffs, zero wear and tear, and that flat lighting makes them look like plastic action figures poorly green screened into a PS3 cutscene. It's so unbelievably fake
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u/Marble05 7h ago
I'm curious how many scenes had all the cast together and how many had people standing around in front of the green screen being spliced together in post production, together with the special effects.
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u/Several-Squash9871 3h ago
Makes me think of that time when Ian McKellen (Gandalf) broke down on the hobbit? I think, because he couldn't take just acting with a bunch of green screens around him all the time instead of having his fellow cast members around him to act with.
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u/Particular_Month_301 7h ago
"Action figures in their clear plastic packaging" is my thought every time. Everything in MCU films (apart from maybe Iron Man) looks artificial and plasticky.
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u/WassupFrankHere 3h ago
Nah, the phase 1 stuff looked clean. Maybe even phase 2 aswell. But the rest? Yeah it does look off.
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u/benabramowitz18 Neil breens #1 fan 7h ago
Imagine a world where Last Jedi and Infinity War switched fan receptions around 2018.
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u/szthesquid 5h ago
Hey don't slander the first two seasons of The Flash. Gloriously, intentionally corny. They knew what they were doing and I loved it.
Season 3 was good but showing cracks and then it all went downhill.
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u/Snakestream 7h ago
Hey now, CW shows are fascinating in their own right, like watching a car crash as it's happening. Mcu movies are just getting more and more... forgettable, for lack of a better term. It's like drinking a glass of water and then pissing it back out a couple hours later.
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u/KrytenKoro 6h ago
Supergirl/Flash crossover where they're "stealthily infiltrating" the Dominators facility, so they all stroll in together to the big warehouse, right through the front door, everyone looking directly at the big display in the middle that they vocally identify as a trap and no one even glancing at the hiding spots or walkways that the villain was in fact hiding on.
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u/Lumpy_Review5279 6h ago
You can literally see mystiques costume have wear in the trailer. Just because this scene doesn't have it doesn't mean it isn't in the moviem
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u/LightningRaven 3h ago
Except CW at least had an excuse for bad production quality.
Low budget, fast production rate and focus on niche audience (teens and shippers).
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u/_Leziell_ 5h ago
I dont fell like thats true for everything. Recent movies like Fanstastic Four, Thunderbolts, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and shows like Daredevil are example of this
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u/wobbly_doo 8h ago
Half of the movie is going to be characters meeting for the first time and shake hands
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u/No-Humor1304 Society man 8h ago edited 8h ago
One is for chuds who think they are philosophical and the other is for just chuds.
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u/sarathsps 7h ago
Which one are you?
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u/Sheepish_conundrum 9h ago
if they separated the water/pushed it away so that people could meet why is the ground bone dry?
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u/Lxapeo 9h ago
Describe the tech or magic that pushes water away but keeps the ground muddy
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u/krooks_25 8h ago
Because they pushed all the water away... you kinda answered your own question there.
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u/R_V_Z 5h ago
If they pushed all the water away how are they still alive? They're all made mostly of water!
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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs Gotti 8h ago
If you can manipulate water to that degree then you can pull all the water out of the ground which turns it into dry sand
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u/Waterworld1880 9h ago
They’re in Battleworld so I’m pretty sure it’s just the literal setting being fantasy
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u/everythingdislikesme 8h ago
It's likely Battleworld will be set up by the end of the movie rather than in the movie itself. Still, they could've had so much sauce even in this scene; think Prince of Egypt rather than... whatever this is
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u/deadpatronus 9h ago
Denis needs to up his game at least I can SEE MCU CHARACTERS. Fuckin desert slop.
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u/Sylassian 7h ago
Taking 'standing awkwardly in the middle of a room' (read: soundstage with bad greenscreen or volume) to the next level. Even the camera angle makes it awkward.
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u/No-Effective388 9h ago
I am still going to watch both
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u/rimjob_steve_ 9h ago
who tf watches movies anymore
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u/No-Humor1304 Society man 8h ago
The last movie I watched was The Angry Birds movie, realised that is the ultimate peak of cinema and have been only reading the plots on Wikipedia since then.
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u/_soosleloshem 8h ago
Yeah fr. I only watch movie trailers in 2x speed so I can be sure that every single new movie is trash corpo slop. I've stopped liking movies back when they added sound and color to them.
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u/19ghost89 9h ago
Yeah, get that beautiful blue color out of my movie. How is anyone supposed to take things seriously unless there's a desert sepia tone over everything?
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u/Matapple13 8h ago
The Dune pic is literally that "when the horizon is in the middle is fucking boring" line from David Lynch in The Fabelmans 😭
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u/MabelRed 8h ago
That’s because one film (cough, the better one) used actual real locations to create their look while marvel just used that giant screen room for most everything
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u/KevinPigaChu 8h ago
Why didn’t the Russo Brothers actually split the sea like Mosses did? SMH literally unwatchable
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u/Blackwolf245 7h ago
It was the Mandalorian that started all of this, right?
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u/2Peenis2Weenis 5h ago
The Tom Cruise movie Oblivion I think started it. The set where they're at their sky base, that's a screen surrounding it. And honestly it worked really well, especially since the rest of the movie filmed in real places.
Their explanation was that there was so many reflective surfaces it'd be a huge pain scrubbing all of the green screen out.
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u/AtomicMonkeyTheFirst 7h ago
OH THANK GOD!!!! We've moved on from wanking/raging about the Odysessssy.
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u/Moreaccurateway 8h ago
Two different scenes trying to convey two different things are shot in two different way.
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u/distilledwill 7h ago
I really really hate the Volume. Absolute peak volume slop was Quantumania. I'm usually pretty forgiving when it comes to MCU stuff, cus its just bubblegum popcorn movies, but honestly this was the limit for me. Nobody TOUCHED anything, nobody PICKED ANYTHING UP, it was just people standing across from each other talking or CGI fighting.
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u/sahibpt98 6h ago
I didn't even knew the doomsday trailer was out, and honestly I felt zero emotions wathching it. It just felt like a compilation of characters which people honestly don't care about much to get hyped far. It looks like a CW show now lol, It's just sad
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u/Procrastinator_325 8h ago
Is the top image supposed to be from Dune 3 or something? I haven't watched the latest trailer yet.
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u/Grouchy-Coast-3045 7h ago
I think Doomsday should add some other unnecessary lens flares to every scene
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u/breakalime 7h ago
How am I supposed to recognise my favourite franchise if all I can see are their silhouettes?!
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u/gw74 9h ago edited 9h ago
they're both slop, it's just Dune is r/im14andthisisdeep and Marvel is r/im14
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u/an_agreeing_dothraki 5h ago
you know, there's a good chance Dune 3 gets far enough along that we will get the "would you still love me if I was a worm" moment
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u/cheeseit247 8h ago
Who is the guy on the right with the cake?
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u/DropDatSupaBass 3h ago
I need to go back to the gym, I scrolled up looking for an actual cake in the picture...
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u/Dynamitrios 7h ago
Or sci-fi world literature vs comic book adaptation (except are well written visual novels)
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u/cudenlynx 6h ago
Thank you. Losing interest in movies that use AI instead of real artists.
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u/CyclopsIsRight13 6h ago
I’m a big comics fan and have seen all the mcu films, good and bad. There is nothing that could have me more hyped for doomsday over dune 3, easily the best sci fi adaptation on this generation.
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u/getarest 9h ago
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