‘The Odyssey’ Proves It: Audiences Want Movies Made the Hard Way | This year's breakouts like 'Project Hail Mary' and 'Obsession' were made by filmmakers who sweated. While CG-stuffed franchise disappointments such as 'Supergirl,' 'Moana,' and 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' looked lazy.

[u/ChiefLeef22]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/odyssey-box-office-2026-practical-effects-1236652219/

[u/KitWalkerXXVII]

Clayface's budget is being cited as $40 million, which is pretty modest by studio feature standards. Not saying it's a guaranteed hit, but it would have to bomb pretty hard to flop.

[u/Master_Bruce → u/KitWalkerXXVII]

And I mean, the Clayface story is great, so it’d be really hard to fuck it up

[u/Josh_Butterballs → u/Master_Bruce]

Great movies can still flop. Conversely, bad movies have done really well before at the box office. Shawshank Redemption is a famous example of a good movie failing at the box office when it released

[u/Master_Bruce → u/Josh_Butterballs]

I mean flopping is only in correlation to how much money it makes at the theaters, quality is quality for all time

[u/Josh_Butterballs → u/Master_Bruce]

That’s what I’m saying though. Clayface can be good but still flop. WB cares that it makes money or else it’s not a very compelling reason to keep the DCU going at least not in a way that doesn’t feel like an afterthought

[u/djc6535 → u/Master_Bruce]

Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow is a great story too. Anything can be fucked up.

[u/never-fiftyone → u/Master_Bruce]

Studio execs: "hold my beer"

[u/mateushkush → u/never-fiftyone]

So far these execs banked on b-villain solo film from a horror auteur. As far as comic book films go, this one is a risky but smart move.

[u/AggressiveCuriosity → u/mateushkush]

Horror seems to be going mainstream right now. A good moment in time for the move if there ever was one.

[u/Omatzus → u/mateushkush]

Clayface is more like D-villain

[u/Master_Bruce → u/never-fiftyone]

“What if clayface just liked playing with clay the whole movie? Totally turn it on its head”

[u/Corgasm_ → u/never-fiftyone]

Studio execs: "it's morbin time"

[u/dumbass_tm → u/Master_Bruce]

But nobody other than deep comic book nerds actually care for clayface. The general population will see the name and not even register it. The trailer has to be extremely good for it to do “well”

[u/paecmaker → u/dumbass_tm]

TBH after watching the trailer, if I didn't know about Clayface before I would never have guessed it was connected to comic books.

[u/StoneGoldX → u/Master_Bruce]

There are like 17 Clayfaces with plenty of stories between them. It's very easy to fuck up. If you're just talking BTAS, that was an eventual Clayface story, not the Clayface story.

[u/Omatzus → u/StoneGoldX]

It feels a lot like Sony's Spider-Villains-Without-Spider-Man movies.

Many people are tired of comic book movies. This is definitely so if they don't even include characters that the audience actually cares about.

[u/danzanzibar → u/Master_Bruce]

Its DC. Theyll find a way.

[u/CrowdyFowl → u/Master_Bruce]

Counterpoint - who actually gives a shit about Clayface

[u/feed_me_moron → u/KitWalkerXXVII]

If it's even halfway good, it'll make like 10 times that. Unlike the Spiderman villain movies, this doesn't look like it's trying to make an antihero out of the villain. Just a straight up body horror movie

[u/Omatzus → u/feed_me_moron]

Backrooms and Obsession didn't even make $200m and $300m respectively. Zero chance Clayface makes $400m.

[u/Awsomethingy → u/KitWalkerXXVII]

That’s what people were saying about Woman of Tomorrow. Such great source material you couldn’t mess it up

[u/Coolman_Rosso → u/KitWalkerXXVII]

Low for a CBM, while relatively high for a horror film. Interesting to see how it does