r/movies • u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor • 4h ago

Article ‘The Odyssey’ Proves It: Audiences Want Movies Made the Hard Way | This year's breakouts like 'Project Hail Mary' and 'Obsession' were made by filmmakers who sweated. While CG-stuffed franchise disappointments such as 'Supergirl,' 'Moana,' and 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' looked lazy.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/odyssey-box-office-2026-practical-effects-1236652219/
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u/readwrite_blue 4h ago

I feel like Favreau has proven his talent. But the safe Disney blockbuster formula produces dull dizzy movies.

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u/Citizensnnippss 4h ago

Favreau can make whatever movie he wants at Disney. Nobody is shackling him. There was no "boogeyman" executive fucking with his movie.

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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 4h ago

I think the problem with The Mandalorian and Grogu is more that it's a follow-up to a TV show that at this point has just faded into irrelevancy.

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u/uniqueusername623 3h ago

And it wasnt even the proper finale for the series, which would also have attracted additional viewers. It was just a longer episode.

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u/darraghfenacin 4h ago

I was talking the other day about how a Disney or a Pixar film coming out used to be a proper event, and something worth going to see. People have just been bombarded by constant slop and are tired.

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u/Citizensnnippss 4h ago

Toy Story 5 is about to become the #1 movie of the year this weekend.

How was that not a "proper event"?

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u/bfodder 4h ago

You heard of Hoppers?

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u/Citizensnnippss 4h ago

The #8 movie in the box office this year? That one?

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u/bfodder 4h ago

No it isn't.

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u/Citizensnnippss 4h ago

...yes, it is

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u/darraghfenacin 3h ago

"Minions & Monsters" is number 10. wtf is that? Like I said, the films used to be a proper event, with the film being a proper, permanent classic.

Box office revenue =/= quality. 2 million big macs are sold every day.

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u/Citizensnnippss 3h ago

So "proper event" is a subjective opinion about quality. Got it.

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u/darraghfenacin 3h ago

Yeah. Is that fine? 

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u/bfodder 3h ago

Ah my list was domestic numbers. I'm looking at that top 10 list though and it is BLEAK. Hoppers being on it is telling on its own.

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u/Oddyesy 1h ago

kids want to watch a movie made for kids isn't the damning commentary on hollywood that you think it is lol

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u/bfodder 59m ago

Ok, so Pixar makes movies only for kids now that don't elevate past that? Doesn't that reinforce the point of Pixar movies being less of a "proper event"?

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u/darraghfenacin 4h ago

every Pixar used to be a classic - they all used to be TOY STORY quality. Up. Wall-E. Cars. Ratatouille. Elio? Luca? Hoppers? wtf are these?

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u/esmelusina 4h ago

Don’t lump Luca in there. It’s amazing and only didn’t splash because it was made early for Disney+ launch. It’s a fantastic film.

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u/Vironic 4h ago

The amount of content and choice we’re blessed with is also a curse.

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u/hfxRos 4h ago

was talking the other day about how a Disney or a Pixar film coming out used to be a proper event, and something worth going to see. People have just been bombarded by constant slop and are tired.

Doomsday is still shaping up to be an event. Most of the people I know kind of lost interest in Marvel in general, but are still very excited for Doomsday.

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u/darraghfenacin 4h ago

they're just beating everyone over the head with every IP, constantly. Shang Chi and the rings of bullshit is where I tapped out

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u/hfxRos 3h ago

Which is a shame, because that movie was sweet

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u/No_Macaroon_5928 1h ago

Idk what this dude was talking about. Shang-Chi was a real good time and I'm quite excited for the potential Agents Of Atlas introduction in it with that agent from WandaVision.

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u/bfodder 4h ago

Yeah I had no idea Hoppers was even a Pixar movie. Didn't even know a whole damn Pixar movie came out until it was streaming.

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u/almo2001 4h ago

Disney movies haven’t been events since maybe the 90s.

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u/Howmanysloths 4h ago

He’s been part of the slop machine for awhile now

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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson 4h ago

He got a lil older and bought in

I don’t really blame him, he’s always seemed like just a dude

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u/Howmanysloths 3h ago

I’m not mad at someone taking their pay checks it just is what it is though

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u/CuckooClockInHell 4h ago

It felt more like a season of the show edited into a movie than an actual movie.

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u/Panzick 4h ago

The disney (and not only) blockbuster formula produce movies that are designed to please the largest audience possible, and it works.
It helps when you're a brand that became almost too big to fail. The JW franchise is standing on one (1) good movie , and yet the last one, the one that earn less money, had a box office of 800+ millions, with the other ending at >1 bln.
That's insane, but it works.

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u/Chihuey 4h ago

A lot of people lose their edge overtime. Favreau has been treading water for over a decade at this point.

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u/JayKay8787 4h ago

He's clearly given up on making passion projects like iron man 1 and chef, and resorted to franchise CGI messes for a while now

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 4h ago

I don’t think you understand that The Mandalorian is his passion project. Every interview he’s ever done has made that clear. Star Wars was what inspired him to be a filmmaker.

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u/JayKay8787 4h ago

If that was a passion project for him than he's a talentless washed up hack at this point

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 3h ago

Are you seriously calling Jon Favreau talentless? I would reexamine his filmography. Oh boy. Maybe just let him enjoy what he enjoys. Mando was a traditional fun adventure, so there wasn’t a lot of groundbreaking stuff about the plot, but he and the crew very clearly stated that they were dedicated to using practical effects, big practical sets, a lot of puppetry, and stop-motion (by Phil Tippett from the original trilogy). There were a ton of homages to past adventure movies too. If that’s not a passion project, I don’t know what is. Disney didn’t come to him to start the show, by the way. He went to them because he saw an opportunity and had an idea for a space western he wanted to explore.

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u/JayKay8787 3h ago

I'm absolutely calling him talentless, people with talent and passion don't put out puke like the lion king "live action" people wanting to cash a quick check do that. Mandalorian is a 2 hour movie where nothing happens, filmed in a way devoid of life and emotion. Passionate artists push to tell stories in a meaningful way, people with a tenth the budget make something far better, more exciting, filled with life every day. There's no excuse for the slop he makes besides money

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 3h ago

He’s made a lot of movies with heart. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I thought there was a lot of emotion and life in Mando, especially with all the puppetry.

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u/razor45Dino 1h ago

Nah man everything has to be black and white. He made a few mid projects so everything good he ever made is a fluke and he's a hack/s

Only people who always make masterpieces are talented