r/moviereviews • u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd • 20h ago
The Odyssey was way overhyped
I'd give it 6.5/10, maybe 7 if I'm generous. I enjoyed both Troy and Clash of the Titans more.
The good:
-The Agamemnon scenes were cool, very Darth Vader-esque
-some good dramatic build up and tense moments
-some good ocean/storm scenes that feel quite immersive
The bad:
-The "non-linear" story telling was weird
-many scenes were too dimly lit and very plain
-costumes, sets, casting, dialog, and acting didn't really evoke a particular historical period or culture or a people... it felt like a bunch of modern people just dressed up in generic ancient looking stuff for a Halloween party or something. Seemed more like a play than a movie at times. Did not transport me to deep antiquity.
-monsters weren't that well done
-some of the action went on too long, could have been edited down a lot
-Greek gods poorly done
-contrary to what others say, the music wasn't even that good as a whole. Lots of cheap cliche intensity build up noise.
-repetitive
-Troy seemed kind of small
To be fair the movie got better towards the end so I didn't get bored or want to leave the theater. I suppose it would be worth it for some entertainment but it doesn't deserve so much praise. It felt more like a TV series quality type of thing. Would definitely not watch a second time.
Don't expect some masterpiece like Lord of the Rings or something, just average entertainment.
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u/CoconutNo1878 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I've been wondering why the Agamemnon scenes worked so well. He was very Darth Vader-esque. You hit the nail on the head.
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u/Ambitious_Misfit Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 12h ago
It’s very plausible he took inspiration from the iconography of a Darth Vader (or a Batman perhaps?), but as it applies to the deeper storytelling, I interpreted Agamemnon as tangentially representative of what is explored with Circe and Odysseus’ men…. That in this telling, all these warriors, kings, heroes are hiding their true nature, shrouded under all this armor and weaponry.
We never see Agamemnon’s face, in battle he is merely a presence in his grand armor, and the only time we see him without his amplifiers (his return home) is a story of arrogance, naivety, and frailty. Just like Odysseus’ men reduced to pigs without their armored shrouds, Agamemnon the figure inspired soldiers and bastioned fear in enemies, but the man was shown to be far less.
The Hades scene really cemented it for me, where he once again appears in his grand armor and yet when we finally hear him talk, it is this incredibly unimpressive voice. Once again, Agamemnon the figure serves as a great lesson/warning to Odysseus, but the only aspects of the man himself Nolan gives us are mundane and unimpressive.
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u/Freeloader_ SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 12h ago
people like cool epic looking badass characters
its not that deep
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u/Groollover86 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
When you say clash of the titans I hope you don't mean the remake made in the 2000s and you mean the one from 1980s
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u/Acceptable_Buyer_600 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
you liked clash of the titans more than the odyssey 🤣🤣🤣
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u/throwaway-adviceee SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 10h ago
I feel like some of these reddit film experts are just larping
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u/Money_Loss2359 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I’d give it a solid 8/10. The fantasy elements are a bit weak and what keeps it from being higher in my opinion. While it’s a better film than either Clash of the Titans or the remake I gladly rewatch them and may not revisit this film as often. Nolan has an interesting take on the Greek gods. They are almost myth in universe. Even Athena could be a figment of Ulysses imagination. Then we have the supernatural elements which are treated as real. I’m sure it has to do with their power and time waning.
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u/Specialist-Ring-3974 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 13h ago
Yep. Maybe a strong 7/10 or a lower 8/10 for me. I was immersed the entire time, the journey had a lot of tense moments, characters were well acted, the cinematography and score were well done, and the story was handled very well -- it hit all the same notes as the poem, and expanded on them.
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u/VelvetHeron SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
What’s funny is I’ve heard people say the action was too fast and should have slower. Also calling non-linear weird isn’t a critique, that’s a preference.
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u/W0rking_Title SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
>I enjoyed both Troy and Clash of the Titans more.
ah you're just more into the "actionslop" side of historical fics
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u/bbristowe SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Yea… fun summer movie. But all in all, it left me feeling unfulfilled. I did not have very high expectations either. Just too many things I did not enjoy I guess.
I am eager for the dust to settle so we can have some proper discussions about the film and its merits. Right now it’s just a mud slinging contest.
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u/kvikklunsjrevolver SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I went in pretty neutral.
To me it felt a bit like a slideshow, for lack of better words.Like I don’t hate it, and it does have some very beautiful and interesting visuals, but it didn’t really feel authentic at all to me.
I guess it lacked heart, and I didn’t feel like the essence and meaning of the epic was really translated into this movie.If I had to rate it, it would be a 6/10.
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u/Scary_Vanilla2932 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
I think it didn't have the weight of the themes he was trying to project. The ambiance hit hard and the script and writing let us down. It was beautiful and yet most scenes were to dark, or to close or not expansive enough. Most modern movies lack clever dialogue and this one was no different. Just because Nolan decided he wanted a simple modern English script doesn't mean it couldnt be more clever or nuanced.
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u/Rivendel93 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 11h ago
Great explanation.
It felt like a slide show, no heart, emotionless.
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u/greennurse61 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 18h ago
I think the original story was a bit of a series of slide shows.
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u/CallMeKingTurd SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 16h ago
Yeah I mean the odyssey is just a collection of individual myths, folklore, and stories that would have been separately performed and passed down as poems/songs by bards.
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u/CWB2208 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Is it my turn to post this tomorrow?
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u/AmishAvenger Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 17h ago
Aside from that, they’re just poor complaints.
The original poem is non-linear, and having a more understated, realistic look was what they were going for.
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u/Life-Food5188 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
cool. hype level isn’t the movies fault.
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u/Extra-Injury-5586 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Idk is it over hyped or over hated 😂
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u/Wrong_Success4377 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago edited 20h ago
Dude said he liked Clash of the Titans better. That's all I needed to know about their opinions.
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u/Rammjack SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
He said some of the scenes were "very plain". Lmao. Either his eyeballs don't work or he's a troll.
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u/ChefInspector SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Calypso island prod design/costumes looked like a straight up fragrance commercial. Can people like the movie without loving it? Can people dislike the movie without being a hater? I think we can all see through the irrelevant criticisms thrown at the film before its release but as with all films adapted from popular IP, do people think no one would have any opinions?
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u/Rammjack SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
Sure everyone can have an opinion. Take your own advice though. I can say someone else's opinion is stupid because that's my opinion. Saying that it was "very plain" is a bad faith argument and I won't engage with it.
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u/southern_skys7 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 7h ago
We totally loved this movie, I thought it was slow one time, then it picked up and was awesome to the end. Loved it
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u/JokeMode SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I have heard some movie takes before. And yours was one of them.
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u/Feisty-Front-479 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
-The book is told non linearly. Perfect for Nolan’s motif. If you’re complaining about non linear story telling in a Nolan movie. That’s actually hilarious to me.
-there were no lights switches back in the day bro. Shit was going to be dimly lit. Ocean is going to be dark at night.
-monsters weren’t that well done? Okay. Clash of titans CGI overuse is definitely for you then. For people tired of that shit. We loved the practical effects. Seeing the soldiers get turned to pigs without CGI was a marvel.
-Greek gods aren’t fucking real bro. Movie starts off by saying in a time of “apparent” magic. A lot of these sequences in the movie aren’t literal.
-as far as music The bass was definitely a lot but it worked for the movie. The theme of Odysseus was top tier including his bow pluck to be used for part of the theme. Hearing some of the ancient instruments they used for the score. It was good.
-Troy may have seemed small but they built every single bit of that set.
I say all this probably knowing you won’t change your mind all that much. If you were underwhelmed you were underwhelmed. This movie will stand the test of time for sure. A lot of people hated interstellar when it first came out and now people love it way more than they did when they first saw it. Maybe after rewatches you’ll appreciate some of the things you didn’t like initially.
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u/Pleasant_Farm_4762 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 11h ago
This guy would actually be disappointed w/ accurate Troy city. They aren't anything like the grandeur sets of Hollywood movies at all, where they tend to exaggerate for dramatic effect.
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u/JJburnes22 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
I give this review a 2/10, uninspired recycled opinions already posted by dozens of ppl
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u/LetterForsaken4140 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
This is stupid asf I loved the movie but people are allowed to not like it
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u/Naive-Friendship6609 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 11h ago edited 11h ago
Good criticism elaborates about what is "done poorly" or "not done well," it doesn't just say so matter-of-factly.
And from another comment: "fun summer film?" I loved it but would hardly call it fun.
I barely noticed the Agamemnon scenes compared to other moments. "Ooh, looks cool I like that costume he's so big!"
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u/Revolutionary_Pop_84 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
Hype is bought media. Hype is not at all representative of actual public opinion of a movie. How in 2026 do people still fall for this?
From early Rotten Tomato reviews, to literally straight up ads just telling you its the "movie of the summer" people think holy cow that must mean its good????
The movie is big, it's epic (in scheme and scope) it's made for the big screen. It's.... fine? It'll be forgettable. It won't be watched at home 10 years from now. But I also enjoyed my time sitting in the theater watching it.
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u/Medium_Mortgage_376 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
People still watch troy and you think this wont be watched in 10 years? Baffling
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u/Revolutionary_Pop_84 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
Bahahhahaa ABSOLUTELY. Not even a question. Also note that doesn't speak to which movie is better.
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u/Opposite_Cod394 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 13h ago
I have no interest of watching odissey again, people only talk about the scream of the cyclops because it was loud in the cinema, I won’t be as exiting in your living room.
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u/ThankeekaSwitch Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
I saw it today and loved it. I wasn't expecting a horror movie about PTSD from war, but it was awesome. The sound was amazing. The visuals of monsters were awesome. Lots of great action. Glad didnt listen to people on here saying it was mid or terrible. It was anything but.
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u/Greyman_57889 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 18h ago
Finally an honest review. I’m so sick of seeing Nolan bros “unbiased” reviews. This movie is mid at best.
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u/Chole_Wunt SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 14h ago
Thought it was honestly terrible. I was wondering how they were going to adapt that story to a movie format, and they didnt do a good job.
The journey was just a series of boxes being checked. Cyclops -check. Circe - check. Sirens - check. String bow - Check. Hades - check. Literally no effort to convey what was being conveyed in the original. Like the morality and ethics and stuff. No mention of hubris anywhere. Same with Calypso honestly.
Characters were poorly developed. Just a consequence of skipping over everything to fit it all in.
More like a movie based on the cliff notes of the Odessy than anything worthwhile.
But thats what Ive come to expect from modern movies. Special effects and no substance.
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u/ForgiveOX SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 1h ago
So you expected special effects, saw a movie with mostly practical effects and you say your expectations were somehow correct?
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u/Ill-Newspaper4653 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 13h ago
The way of life is simple. Either you love Christopher Nolan's works or get exiled from the society forever. Seem like everyone is becomming a part of FOMO of appreciating the Odyssey. But don't worry. You are not alone either.
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u/jeffenglover SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 13h ago
The final showdown is dragging and unrealistic , the better way is have the father son duo kill a bunch of suitors then the rest back down in awe
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u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 6h ago
yes, it dragged on too long. This scene could have been soooo much better.
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u/Fun-Document7 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 12h ago
Yeah i gave it a 6. It was overhyped. It lacks heart tbh.
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u/hellomatterhorn SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 11h ago
The thing is, it is an average 6 or 7 movie and a non-faithful adaption at that. No greeks, no gods, story elements incorrect. Thats why it gets the hate. It isnt a 8 or 9 or even 10/10. So its not a 1, and not a 10 but plain average.
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u/Boring_Course6088 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 8h ago
I loved clash of the titans too it was an action packed retelling of the story and pure cheese. I think in the current world of superheroes and remakes and sequels the odyssey did a pretty epic job. I was glued to the screen for 3 hours and it made me remember why I loved the cinema so much. We all have different taste
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u/BigLooTheIgloo SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 7h ago
Thank you for giving actual examples from the film. I was trying to figure out what people aren't liking about the movie but a lot of people just say they don't like it without giving examples.
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u/Rasples1998 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 7h ago
You had grifters on the right saying it's the worst thing ever, but conversely you also had grifters on the left saying it's the best thing ever. This leads to a spiral where the movie is both critically panned and critically acclaimed, then when completely normal people go to watch it, it meets none of the expectations you had going in and is the most mediocre movie you've ever seen.
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u/jeffenglover SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 5h ago
the sea scene sometimes feel too repetitive and dragging . The mythology aspect is too weak , I hope for a more intense Siren and Scylla scene . The Circe scene is too bland and like a low budget TV series . Overally not a bad film . But far from great .
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u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 5h ago
ya, it had low budget tv series feel at times
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u/jeffenglover SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 5h ago
Almost all sequence is reduced to a extreme simplicity that feel unnecessary.
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u/RDM213 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
The numbers prove not my friend. You’re in the minority and that’s totally fine.
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u/Opposite_Cod394 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 13h ago
If you judge a movie by the numbers, then Disney live action remakes must be some of the best movies ever ?
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u/lousycesspool SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 9h ago
Disney live action remakes must be some of the best movies ever
So true, just the other day as I left the theater finished watching Moana, I thought "The only way to make this better is a triple feature with Mulan and Dumbo. Wow!"
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u/RDM213 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 6h ago
Numbers are good and the reviews are great. Kids movies are a major exception since they’ll usually make money regardless with some few exceptions.
The reviews from critics and the general population on this movie is also amazing. So yeah, my point still stands, I guess I should’ve known I’d have to lay it out entirely for people to understand, that’s on me.
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u/Pagalhogaye SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 14h ago
Eh? This is such a dystopian take
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u/RDM213 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 6h ago
It’s really not. When everything lines up where people are selling out theaters. And the the reviews are very high from critics and the general population then it’s not exactly in the overrated category. Just because you dislike something that’s liked by most doesn’t make it overrated right away.
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u/D4rkPhoen1x SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 18h ago
It is also totally fine to be wrong, which OP is.
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u/TheRealDrtyDan88 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I’ve seen only hate campaigns online for months about this movie.
It’s a Nolan film, critics are going to like his movies regardless because they generally are good across a variety of metrics that critics would be measuring from.
In today’s time audience reactions online tend to be overly supportive or overly hateful depending on whatever agenda they subscribe to.
Haven’t seen it yet, looking forward to seeing it, not expecting it to be a top movie for me but I’m sure it’ll be perfectly fine. Nothing will be worse than the dread of knowing that I’m not even halfway through antman quantimania and that I’d have to endure more of that garbage. I doubt even the worst of Nolan’s films is more digestible than that
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u/YallSoftAsButter Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
Gotta give credit where credit is due Bud.
This was the first ever movie filmed entirely on 70 MM film. Literally 11 miles of reel. Get 3 minutes to shoot and barely any CGI was used. That takes mastery and skill from a director. Christopher Nolan hand picked every location, they were on set in the seas for months on end. Unless you have a Real IMAX near you to project how the film was really supposed to be seen, I’d encourage anyone to get tickets when they free up. It’s literally a masterpiece and a shock we even got this kind of movie.
There are only 25 theaters in America that can project this movie. Think about that. This is a projectionist dream come true.
I was engaged the entire movie. Hands down 1 of the best movies I’ve seen on the big screen
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u/TheScreen_Slaver SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
This right here is how I like donuts
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u/YallSoftAsButter Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago edited 19h ago
I’m not a big fan of donuts. More of a bagel type with cream cheese. All types of Bagels and Cream cheese.
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u/TheScreen_Slaver SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
Strawberry cream cheese?
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u/YallSoftAsButter Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
Yes. Could eat it all by itself. Delicious. I actually just had Panera Bread cinnamon bagel with their honey walnut cream cheese last week. It’s amazing.
I had to stop buying bags of bagels from the store cause I’d eat the whole bag in a day. 1 just isn’t ever enough.
Everything Bagels are on my top 3 fav list
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u/Mundane_Bell_1894 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 13h ago
How is it a masterpiece if you can only watch it in IMAX? 90% of people will never see it in IMAX. If it can not translate to watching it on a regular screen then it really is not that great of a film.
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u/YallSoftAsButter Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 2h ago
It’s the first ever movie filmed entirely on 70 MM. You do understand how remarkable that is. Before the camera even roles for every battle scene they must be precise and ready. Only get 3 minute takes.
Movie goers are literally driving from different states to see this in 70 MM. That’s how unique it is.
I have a theater close by that runs it all day everyday for the next 3 weeks. You can’t even get seats right now. Theaters are sold out in every showing.
It’s 500 pounds of reel and 11 miles long.90% of of people probably don’t even care and will watch it standard or in Liemax. I watched it in GPX theater, still is an awesome quality film. I’ll be getting tickets for IMAX next week when they have openings. It’ll be awesome to watch how the movie was intended to be seen.
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u/Mundane_Bell_1894 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 2h ago
Ok. Thats great. That does not automatically make it a good movie. Which i dont think it is. Since you only have 3 minutes maybe thats why the movie feels rushed and the whole over all storytelling and dialog was dog shit.
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u/YallSoftAsButter Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 45m ago
Well that’s too bad you felt this way. I thought it was a great movie to see in the Cinema. Can’t wait to see it in real IMAX.
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u/LostPentimento SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Praise? All I see is people bitching about historical accuracy even though it isn't a historically accurate story in the first place. It's an ancient fictional story. Incorporating historical accuracy is nice, but I don't see it as being quite as important as it would be if we were talking about a legitimate historical piece.
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u/FitThroat2619 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
There are also examples of historical stories based on real people being swapped.
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u/Efficient-Slide-2523 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Saw a sold-out 70mm screening on opening day at a local indie theater. When the film was over, one or two people clapped. That was it. Very muted reaction for the place and crowd.
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u/obliquemeak SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 5h ago
Everyone in mine clapped.
I can’t stand people who clap after a movie. Like it makes sense at movie festivals because there’s a good chance someone involved with the movie is in the room but at a random theater in Idaho on a Tuesday?
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u/Key_Purpose8121 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
Maybe because clapping after a movie is cringe as fuck
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u/Efficient-Slide-2523 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
And we know opening day Nolan fans are never cringe
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u/saypoop SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Being cynical must suck. It’s objectively good
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u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I'm not cynical, I really tried to get into it and wanted to like it.
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u/AdNecessary6315 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Agreed, its a solid 3 out of 5 for me. Visually it was well shot, but the narrative suffered from all the flashbacks. Literally had flashbacks within flashbacks
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u/sailing_by_the_lee SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 18h ago
I agree with your rating. The cinematography was amazing. I didn't mind the flashbacks because I already know the poem. But the dialogue. Oh gods, a lot of the dialogue was so cringey it was embarrassing. Which is especially weird given that Homer provided Nolan with no shortage of beautiful language to draw from.
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u/BeanbagBunniesBlunts SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
When it was over I immediately said '"lord of the rings was better" lol I'm insufferable (I was alone)
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u/KornwalI SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I don’t know why these subs all the sudden keep showing up on my feed. But I personally don’t care about reviews or critics or whatever. If there’s a movie I am interested in I go see it, and if I like it I like it, if I don’t I don’t. There’s plenty of movies that have bad reviews I enjoy and ones with good ones I don’t. Some people loved this movie, some people hated it. Some people are in between. Everyone’s different
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u/Perpetual-Warlock SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
You should have stopped immediately when you said you looked Troy better. Troy is just objectively a bad movie. It has fun scenes. But it's a bad movie.
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u/Hotdogopolis SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
It's this year's avatar. Turn off your brain and have popcorny fun with your friends.
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u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
I did. It was mildly enjoyable. Avatar was better.
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u/GoofierDeer1 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
Clash of titans, ok man this is low quality bait.
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u/random_name628 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
I enjoyed it very much and I didn’t watch it in IMAX because it was sold out. Hope to watch it again next week on IMAX
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u/TrottingandHotting SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago edited 19h ago
Apparently Troy was actually quite a small city (by modern standards.) Like ~200 meters wide. More of a fortress on a hill than a full blown walled city.
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u/TheDoomedNova SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
Look everyone the contrarian has arrived! He’s here to let us know how cool and different he is!
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u/ChalkLicker SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
You had me until Clash of the Titans and Troy. You left out Transformers. LOL.
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u/ConsciousSkin1079 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 18h ago
The making of this film is more fascinating than the movie itself. Everyone scrambling to see it in the way Nolan intended is nice marketing for imax
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u/robotmonkey2099 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 18h ago
"doesnt deserve so much praise" - why arent people allowed to have a different opinion?
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u/DaHarbinger2000 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 18h ago
It was fantastic, no real complaints. Other than normal Nolan having clunky execution in some action scenes. It’s always been one of his major issues. But in terms of themes, naturalistic & brutalist imagery, storytelling, it was second to none. The climax was unbelievably well earned. And there’s a lot of small little call backs to earlier in the film that I found very clever.
The non linear cuts actually made a lot of sense for this type of tale for me. It’s definitely not over hyped. It’s an experience I would recommend to anyone. Not everyone can be pleased however.
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u/SitePrimary5826 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 18h ago
lol another person giving their review proving no intelligence
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u/thishenryjames Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 17h ago
Well, at least you didn't talk about the casting, I guess.
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u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 5h ago
Matt Damon wasn't the best choice for Odysseus. Made it feel like the Bourne Identity with his spaced out amnesia scenes. Anne Hathaway was not bad as the Queen. The "diversity" of the rest of the cast could have worked ok but it wasn't done well. The controversial black Helen of Troy could have worked if they got the right actress. Could have been as good as Morgan Freeman playing God in Bruce Almighty.
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u/Glass_Cheetah SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 16h ago
Just like art, it’s all subjective…some people like some people don’t. A friend already saw this film 3 times, that’s how much he loved it…while I will most likely never watch this film again for the rest of my life. Definitely didn’t hate it, just wasn’t enthralled or moved enough to add it as a top fav.
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u/tigervoyager Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 15h ago
If you don’t like non-linear storytelling, then a Nolan movie is not for you LOL
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u/The_Cost_Of_Lies Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 14h ago
"The non-linear storytelling was weird"
Have your ever seen a Christopher Nolan film? Like, ever?
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u/compmancb Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 14h ago
Rating aside, is it necessary to see it in IMAX? I'm hesitant to spend $30+ to be honest.
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u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 6h ago
I saw it on a regular screen, not imax. Was fine in terms of aspect ratio and intensity of the action and effects. I wouldn't want it any bigger or louder honestly.
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u/HumanautPassenger Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 13h ago
"enjoyed clash of the titans more". Ffs man lol
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u/glordicus1 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 13h ago
Eh. I like it. My only complaint was Charybdis and Scylla. The Cyclops was freaky as fuck and so was Cerce. But Charybdis didn't look intimidating at all, and the Scylla scene was too quick for the emotional pay-off of the sacrifice. I wish there was more mythical stuff like the bag, but oh well.
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u/Nice-Ad7901 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 12h ago
I agree, casting was also ass. But get ready for smart ass comments saying how wrong you are.
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u/wiltbennyhenny Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 12h ago
Overhyped/overrated are perhaps the most misused words in our modern vocabulary. I’m just tired of people deciding that if you like something more or less than others than it’s everyone else who is wrong. Bro, you like it less. It’s a totally fair opinion. But overhyped means everyone else somehow lied or wasn’t right. Come on now
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u/Rightsidebestside SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 12h ago
-The "non-linear" story telling was weird
It's not weird, it's just that you have attention span of a gold fish. Watch less tiktok and read more books, you'll get a hang of it
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u/Forsaken-Device-6093 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 12h ago
I completely accept other people enjoy different things, and at the end of the day it’s all media, it really doesn’t matter and people can enjoy what they like.
That being said, what the fuck are you smoking that you preferred clash of the titans? That is one of the worst films I have ever seen, I’d almost say it’s not even subjective, it is objectively terrible!
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u/ihaveviolethair SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 12h ago
I actually liked that the fantasy elements were muted. It was very much like “being a hero isn’t all that great” - because Odysseus was ashamed of what he had to do (break zeus’ law) to become legendary.
I think i appreciated the realism, that oral tellings can get overyhyped, but the reality is grim, horrific, unsettling or downright terrible. It kinda highlights that people just hype what they did/saw in their travels to elevate themselves.
Even how Athena was done- you were wondering if she was real or odysseus was hallucinating her. They properly skirted the line between greek gods being real and people WANTING to believe they were real.
Clash of the titans (and later, wrath) was borderline comical because they focused on the CGI fantasy elements to it.
I guess thats the trouble with retelling an old story, people come to it with expectations and you cant please everyone
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u/CoffeeNBiskits SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 11h ago
… I’m a bit exasperated tbh with respect. Regarding the time jumps and non linear argument, that’s the odyssey… the story is literally a complex narrative that’s non linear and the number of people that use that as a negative… also every Nolan film is like this. He plays with non linear storytelling. It’s not new with him. So objectively it’s not weird.
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u/tayz0314 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 11h ago
In short, it means it simply repeats the same flaws found in Nolan's films. His movies are almost always non-linear—yet incredibly tedious—and feature dark visuals and cramped framing.
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u/JolleyCutYowie SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 10h ago
"Troy seemed kind of small", lol. I hope they quote that on the Blu-ray cover.
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u/gevuldeloempia Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 10h ago
Why even write reviews if you like Hollywood Slop. Not saying it's bad, but you clearly don't know what youre talking about
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u/throwaway-adviceee SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 10h ago
Christopher nolan always tells his stories in a non linear fashion, that’s just how he tells stories
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u/NewArt8854 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 9h ago
Just from the pros and cons you listed, I could tell that you are "the type" to prefer movies like Troy/Clash of the Titans to the Odyssey. Which is totally fine by the way, but...
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u/mourningthief SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 8h ago
Cool. Great. Okay, off to bed, it's a school day tomorrow.
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u/Scalene69 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 8h ago
I put on Troy last night and quit after 10mins. Troy has a couple of epic scenes but is a terribly boring film, especially compared to the odyssey.
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u/TheSturdyBear SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 8h ago
So, ya put the fact of the matter aside and gave it a shot, can’t say I don’t blame you, I went to do the same last night then saw it was a bit shittier of a bootleg than I’d like (vsee box) And said , probably not worth it
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u/TheSturdyBear SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 8h ago
It’s actually insane how manipulated the reviews seem. I mean I love how it got a 99% on RT, I don’t think that’s ever happened. Like go figure lmao of course the film that gets 800k dislikes on their official trailer rates highest RT ever scored something? Right
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u/r-guthmensch SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 7h ago
Ifind funny, that you put these to together:
"-costumes, sets, casting, dialog, and acting didn't really evoke a particular historical period or culture or a people"
"-Troy seemed kind of small"
because they are contradict each other. i recomme you to take a look at big cities and forts around the time period the troyan war is predicted. a good example would be the ancient greek city mycenae.
The picture a lot of you have in your had about troy seems quite wird and ahistorical and to much influenced by older holywood movies and there presentation of troy
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u/southern_skys7 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 7h ago
We loved loved it! Also the people I know who saw it loved loved it! Maybe those of us who have heard these stories but a long time ago and don’t remember every detail enjoy it the most.
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u/blac_sheep90 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 7h ago edited 7h ago
I really enjoyed every minute of it. The dialogue was jarring at first but that passed quickly. The performances were all solid and the overall film was excellent.
I was exactly as hyped as I needed to be and I'm glad this movie exists. Solid 8.5/10.
The rose colored rememberence of Troy is funny to me. I saw it in theaters and while it was fun it was a hammy take with some extreme overacting. It's a solid 6.5/10
Open letter to the people that brought a baby to the movie and who clapped when Odysseus fought the suitors...y'all suck, all time champions of suck. Nothing more movie ruining than a baby talking and screaming the entire time.
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u/jeffenglover SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 5h ago
Polyphemus scene is very atmospheric , but later sequences all feel lackluster and pale in comparison . The Troy sequence is okay but not awe inspiring enough .
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u/jeffenglover SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 5h ago
The one and only mind blowing scene is Polyphemus . That sequence make the rest unimpressive and underwhelming . If the rest is as intense as Polyphemus , this movie will easily be a above 8 .
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u/thevelvetdays7 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 4h ago
You are bad at watching movies. This is not worthy of this subreddit.
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u/nachos_mahdude SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 4h ago
I love his movies, but this unfortunately missed me completely
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u/Goofylikeyourmom SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 3h ago
It’s a great movie. Not my favorite Chris Nolan movie though. That place is for Inception :)
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u/EffectiveCareful8752 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 1h ago
I saw this movie Friday night not knowing anything of the hype or the underlying backlash. I left thinking the movie was a nine or 10 out of 10. I definitely started telling people how great the movie was, I’m sure that will skew their perspective. the movie is excellent, but overhyping it will lead to disappointment for sure.
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u/morningswmumme SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 1h ago
People will pick this film apart to death, regardless of how good it is. Because honestly I think there’s always going to be people who want to go against the grain for the sake of it. I love film and watch a lot of great movies, I’d give it 9.5-10. You’re entitled to your opinion but I think it’s a bad one.
Give it 20 years, this will be considered a once-in-a generation kind of film I promise.
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u/universalcrush Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 1h ago
Lmao Troy was a joke back when it was released and even bigger joke now. I wouldn’t even watch that cgi fest clash of titans 🤣
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u/2loco4loko SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 1h ago
may i ask, if u watched it in IMAX 70mm "as Nolan intended"™, how was the visual spectacle? were you "wowed" by the grand scale? im honestly only interested bc of hype around the new format and don't have any expectations for the movie at all; but if the IMAX 70mm hype - the promised grand visual spectacle - isn't that special, i'd probably skip it tbh.
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u/Spare-Remove-2069 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
Baby’s first movie, huh?
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u/donaldbino SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I truly don’t think this dude has watched anything outside the marvel universe. Most casual viewer opinion I’ve ever read 😂
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u/ChefInspector SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
People use the word masterpiece these days like popping tic-tacs
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u/Due_Bad_9445 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
2 stars out of 4. It was kind of schmaltzy in the same way Saving Private Ryan was.
Script: 1.5
Art direction: 2
Camera: 2
Presentation: 1
Directing: 2
Music :1.5
Casting: 3
Editing: 1.5
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u/Equivalent_Cable1643 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
What a strange rating system.
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u/Dittymaker SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 13h ago
4 star rating scale is what Roger Ebert used, it's old school
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u/photogenicbigfoot84 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
"Camera"
Hi, the word you're looking for is cinematography.
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u/Due_Bad_9445 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
Same difference. Wasted opportunity with the 70mm imo. Though I did see the cropped version.
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u/DripDrop777 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
The more promotion and advertising a movie does, the worse the movie actually is.
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u/ferrellhamster SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
2 out of 5
That's the quality of your post;.
'Greek gods poorly done'
Did you even watch the movie?
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u/CharacterPurchase694 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
I liked how they werent directly there and were just a manifestation of the sea for example but it could've been done either way and been fine with me
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u/cranberryalarmclock Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
I love reading reviews here because it shows exactly why there's such a thing as professional critics. Because they actually think critically and articulate their thoughts instead of just saying 'this part was cool, really Vader like'
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u/Special_Trifle_8033 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
I feel lied to and cheated by all the professional critics who pushed this as some kind of outstanding landmark film and gave it 10/10.
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u/FullMetalCOS SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
I mean, you rated clash of the titans and Troy higher. It’s less likely that they lied to you and far more likely you have crap taste in movies
You should find specific critics who you agree with and listen to only them. If they exist
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u/ChefInspector SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
If anyone needs a professional or amateur critic to tell them which movies to see or how to feel about them, what do they take away from art in general?
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u/Lumpy_Flight3088 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 20h ago
Troy Directors Cut is epic. People shit on that movie at the time but it’s better than anything else released in the last 10 years.
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u/FullMetalCOS SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
People shit on the theatrical cut because it’s bad. Much like Kingdom of Heaven is a very different theatrical movie than the directors cut (with the directors cut being a VERY good movie and the theatrical cut being really bad). I haven’t seen the directors cut of Troy to comment (I honestly didn’t even know there was one)
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u/Lumpy_Flight3088 Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
Educate yourself then.
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u/FullMetalCOS SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 19h ago
I was addressing your point of “people shit on that movie at the time” and yeah it’s because the theatrical cut is shit
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u/OtsaNeSword Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
The costumes and armor were horrible - on par with quality from films and series’s such as: Netflix’s Troy: Fall of a City, Amazon’s Rings of Power, and The Rock’s 2014 Hercules film.
It had all the money, resources and people to craft quality costumes but they cheaped out on that front.
And nearly every character was miscast.
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u/dogfacedponyboy Films Watchlist on SIMKL.com 19h ago
Clearly, the “98% on Rotten Tomatoes!!” , “Astounding!”, “Miraculous!” campaign was fabricated by Universal (owned by the same parent company as Rotten Tomatoes) and Hollywood to stick it to Trump and the Right for the complaints about the diverse casting. I mean, the hype came out of nowhere, and all the news agencies are even talking about it. They received the talking points and it’s clear it is a coordinated effort. I will be seeing it this weekend, and I hope it’s as good as the campaign says it is!
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u/Many-Championship146 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 16h ago
Go to any museum with Ancient Greek Art and if you find any depiction of black women as queens and goddesses let me know. I don’t care how many tickets the woke Odyssey sells. Facts are facts.
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u/nailinpalin69 SIMKL.com vs Letterboxd 20h ago
I agree that The Odyssey is overhyped. But in no way, shape, or form is Troy or Clash of the Titans better. Brad Pitt didnt even want to be in Troy, and it shows.