r/mildlyinfuriating • u/LateDxOldLady • 1d ago
go to your room Content creators holding lavalier (aka lapel) mics
It has a clip for a reason. Your sound sucks because you're not using the mic correctly. Also, it's distracting AF.
I KNOW y'all hate redundant red circles. That is why I deliberately used them. Get with the program.
If only the manufacturer included some type of manual...
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u/sheriw1965 1d ago
Is that what Bob Barker used on The Price is Right?
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u/No_Jello_5922 1d ago
Bob used a sony ECM-51 telescoping microphone. This was so that he could extend his arm to mic the responses to the questions asked from the contestant without having to rig a lavalier on them. He also had the CBS techs extend the fixed cable to allow total freedom of movement. Drew Carey uses a similar mic, but finally a wireless version. Cheap way to get the same effect is to use a gooseneck microphone (like the kind on a podium) attached to a wireless XLR transmitter that also has phantom power.
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u/Wildcat_twister12 1d ago
And the reason they keep using this style of microphone is because when they hand it to the contestants it’s been proven to be less intimidating to speak into than the regular short microphones we are more used to using. The human brain can be whacky at times
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u/AshundertheOlivetree 1d ago
Phantom power sounds futuristic
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u/ImpluseThrowAway 1d ago
Is it possible to learn that power?
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u/Somewhat_Kumquat 1d ago
You just press the 48v button. No one knows where the power comes from or how it works. Just like gravity.
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u/TurboRadical 1d ago
I’ve always thought that “48v” is a weird label for the mute button, but I’m no audio engineer
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u/JTC93 1d ago
I mean it WILL pretty much mute your microphone if you don’t mind a loud pop every time you press it 😂
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u/Lower-Calligrapher98 1d ago
I know. These are the deeper mysteries you learn, when you go to college to study production and engineering!
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u/wandering-monster 1d ago
That's better tho, the issue with holding it in your fingers is the fingers blocking parts of it, plus the sound of touching things so close to the actual mic housing.
Using an antenna or something is usually fine as long as you don't get it too close to your mouth. (Off to one side is best to avoid air flow and pops
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u/derprondo 1d ago
What I've seen a lot of youtube people do is just clip the mic on something else that they hold, like a stiff index card or something similar.
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u/thesirblondie 1d ago
I love the tiktok trend of sticking a lav to any object, acting as if a trowel is a microphone.
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u/GreenBastard06 1d ago
I still remember Kenny Everett bending that mic in half when Terry approached him
I yam old
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u/oopgook 1d ago
The term I’ve use to reference these sort of tactics was a “curated imperfection.” As in, this mistake was intentionally chosen to make the presenter come off as more genuine and less rehearsed.
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u/AceWither 1d ago
Like guys in the mid 2000s intentionally doing perfect bed hair that took them 30 mins to style.
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u/MonsieurMangos 1d ago
I'm reminded of Josh Strife Haze who puts his regular mic in a mug. Gives a vector for funny mugs and looks funny without being a teenage podcaster. That tiny bit of oddity that softens the professor look.
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u/EonAtom 1d ago
I've seen a few behind the scenes videos by people that hold mics in their videos and every single one has had them using it as a prop. They record with a stationary mic out of frame so they can gesture with the mic without ruining the sound.
Batshit insane but I guess it works
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u/Jorycle 1d ago
I'm skeptical that this really works, but on the other hand I feel the same about people making absolutely ridiculous faces in thumbnails. Seeing a lawyer doing the Home Alone face (and in every video) makes me think he's lying about being a lawyer and it's not worth my time, but they claim the stats say it really matters.
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u/ahferroin7 1d ago
For the thumbnails it’s almost entirely about catching people’s attention. A lot of people will look past the thumbnail art at either the text or the video title to decide whether or not to watch. But to get to that point they have to stop scrolling and actually look at the video in the first place, so the thumbnail has to be eye-catching.
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u/VorAbaddon 1d ago
The sad thing is I think they're right. Some content creator tried and experiment, releasing the same video, same content, but one with the BOMBSHELL headlines that ROCKED America! And the other with more grounded, fact based headlines.
Guess which ones got more views?
So you play to the algorithms or your message doesn't go as widely as those willing to engage in open clickbait for pure deceit (Bannon, etc).
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u/Fawkestrot92 1d ago
It’s a prop more than anything really. It’s kinda hard to talk directly to camera and not know what to do with your hands. Plenty of music artist or stand ups could use a headset mic but maybe 1% do and it’s not because of audio quality.
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u/TheDarkWh1t3 1d ago
I work in the sound department, mostly on short films. Seeing my meticulous craft of carefully hiding microphones while ensuring perfect sound quality.... being replaced with the transmitter in center frame, using the internal microphone kills me a little inside.
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u/cjandstuff 1d ago
I feel the same about vertical video. But then again, TV has been my bread and butter.
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u/civilizedgifs 1d ago
I once saw a post with thousands of likes, full of comments from people blown away by a vertical video showing a massive new IMAX theater. I've always hated vertical video, but a line was crossed that day.
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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago
I used to work in a theatre. Often there was a no filming or photography rule. I used to catch people doing this in the crowd and lightly shame them into stopping.
On one occasion I saw a man sat near the aisle who was filming in portrait our landscape stage and I just had enough. I did the torch shine to inform him I'd caught him but he didn't notice so I went over and just took the phone from him, turned it sideways and gave it back.
He was shocked but thanked me. I said he was welcome.
Then I shone the torch on him and told him "no filming allowed" and waited for him to put it away.
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u/Autogen-Username1234 1d ago
The stand up comedian Dara Ó Briain during a show.
"Excuse me, my talking isn't disturbing you filming the show is it? Anyway, there's a professional DVD of the show being filmed that you can buy if you want to. Oh my God - you're not the fella fiming it, are you?"
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u/jeremyw013 THESE FLAIRS ARE INFURIATING 1d ago edited 22h ago
that reminds me of an event i was working where filming wasn’t allowed but there was a DVD. the cameraman was right behind the booth. one of the audience members deadass just walked up to the camera man and got mad at him for filming. yes, because someone would bring their entire professional video setup including a mixer plugged into our system just to film for his own personal use. it was a damn good thing he was directly using the mics on stage because otherwise the video would’ve been screwed up by the karen’s bitching lol.
also it’s really funny that she would assume that the literal employees wouldn’t stop someone that wasn’t supposed to be filming lol. we’re all literally right there in the booth.
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u/abbylark 1d ago
The reason this started was because it's essentially a flag for content creators to show that they aren't doing a big production. The trend has gotten larger but it originally began when small creators got subsumed into large production houses that had studios and staff and things changed.
It's not necessarily to piss off people like you but to show the kind of people who aren't interested by professional productions that they don't have any staff like you to do things like that. It's both "I'm a small creator so I'm saying what I really think" (whether that's true or not it's what they're trying to convey) and "I'm a small creator so don't get too upset about the bad production values." Probably also an element of "here are the seams in production so you can see how I do it" so small creators do this in response to seeing larger ones do it.
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u/Unkn0wn_Invalid 1d ago
My main gripe is that they could use any other mic, and they choose the dinky lavelier mic when they could just use a nice large one if they're holding it anyways.
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u/feed_me_tecate 1d ago
I've had folks take one of these small DJI mics and hide it under the windscreen of a SM58
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u/a_a_ronc 1d ago
I watched a video essay I stand to agree with. All the old media went to podcasts and YouTube where they meticulously planned audio. In order to be obvious you are not “old media” in the 3 second attention span of TikTok users, young people went the lazy route and decided to do whatever wasn’t professional. Hold it, put it in frame, doesn’t matter as long as it doesn’t clip and sounds ok.
Now there are people that are doing the lazy way and don’t understand audio, so it sounds terrible.
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u/Divine_Entity_ 1d ago
Tom scott had a video on why content creators started to leave the "clapping" at the start of clips in. (Those claps are to align sound and video, and normally get edited out. Functionally identical to the thing on old movies with the take info and clap.)
His core argument on the subject is it adds a layer of authenticity, it shows the viewer this content is made by a "little guy tm" and not some corporation or worse AI. (Many people are very hostile to both, and this does affect viewership.)
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u/ItPutsLotionOnItSkin 1d ago
One person did it and got .0001% increase in viewership so of course they all have to do it.
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u/frocarter 1d ago
One person did it and 400 others did it because of them. And the 400,000 saw those and made it the default.
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u/Instameat GREEN 1d ago
Like how people hold phones today. Even when they have earbuds in.
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u/versaliaesque 1d ago
or put it on speakerphone, hold it to their ear to listen, then hold it to their mouth to speak. Boy do I have news about how phones work if you just hold it normally
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u/MStockard 1d ago
One person did it because it was the only mic they had and they wanted whomever they were talking to to be able to be heard, then other people that only had that mic and didn't want to buy any other started doing it.
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u/BSK_Darksol 1d ago
This is the answer lmfao. Many of these "influencers" (God, I hate that word) don't know shit about recording equipment.
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u/Classic-Apartment521 1d ago
I’m fairly certain the trend of holding the mic like that came from people who used wired earbuds
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u/Sagan_Man 1d ago
I should be mad at more things.
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u/InbetweenTheLayers 1d ago
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u/OneLonerCheezIt 1d ago
They even have the fuzzy stuff to dampen wind and rubbing from being clipped to clothing, yet they still hold it and move it around while talking.
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u/stylinchilibeans 1d ago
Fun fact: industry term for the fuzzy thing is Dead Cat.
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u/dungeoncrawler71520 1d ago
MONGO IS APPALLED!
Unless it's a Havana Brown.
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u/dmcent54 1d ago
I tried to say unexpecteddungeoncrawlercarl but it was a link to a nonexistent sub, so it got deleted.
Anyway, there we go.
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u/TragicPlops 1d ago
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u/pattyfritters 1d ago
Pop filter is still good regardless if its clipped or not. Every broadcast mic you see has a filter on it.
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u/Xenokiller101 1d ago
Pop filter is the circular thing that clips in front of a microphone to prevent clipping caused by enounciating by talking- the "fuzzy part" (deadcat or windmuff) is for more environmental noise reductions
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u/kmacaze 1d ago
As long as they don’t put it directly in front of their mouth… and don’t fidget… or move…
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u/stoopidrotary 1d ago
Ok but it's actually funny when they use something silly as a mic stand or handle. Like a wrench or baguette.
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u/the_bartolonomicron 1d ago
Glad to find someone else who feels the same. I know for some people it's a whole bit that they find some new and inconveniently shaped object to strap it to for comedic effect, and I chuckle every time. Just holding it uselessly like that is tacky, though.
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u/Borge_Luis_Jorges 1d ago
I understand how it's funny. It just that because of the circumstances it doesn't feel sincere. There's so too many people doing exactly the same, their motivations so statistic, that a damned baguette is not enough to convince me they know why it would be funny. They're just trying to one-up each other.
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u/SoloWalrus 1d ago
Its "internet ugly", theyre doing it to intentionally appear amateur and therefore more genuine. Basically the opposite of a big budget film where theyd hide the mic so you never see it.
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u/xeladra 1d ago
I think there’s a psychology behind it in a way, I think having the mic to hold feels like you’re more involved in the content and gives you a bigger feeling of being on your soapbox as opposed to talking to the camera with it attached to you
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u/ItsLoudB YO 1d ago
I doubt many people are aware of this and aren’t simply doing what everyone else is doing
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u/mad-fancy 1d ago
There is a language to film/video, many of the traits in cinema are like that because of what has gone before and viewer expectation. We all know what the vertigo shot makes us feel, it is a shorthand that you can use to promote meaning. They may not speak the language fluently, but they are using and portraying the story as millions have done before
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u/Glorified_Hobo96 1d ago
Have you seen the trend where people attach them to debit/credit/giftcards?!
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u/Humble_Bee9679 1d ago
The subway takes guy 😂
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u/stargazerfromthemoon 1d ago
I love the subway takes guy mics. It’s a nod to the transit cards and maximizes the voices of the people in the video compared to the rest of the loud subway.
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u/gba_sg1 1d ago
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u/andyooo 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is not wrong. Putting mic closer to the source even just a few inches increases the volume of your voice considerably relative to background noise, and the closer to the source, the stronger the effect. You just need to keep in mind plosives. [Edit to add: this is also the easiest way to reduce echo, especially with omnidirectional mics which the vast majority of these are]
Sound level doesn't propagate linearly, but it falls off much more rapidly. This is why when you see people waving around an interview mic or when wearing lapel mics in a talk show and the guest turns their head to the other side the voice level lowers considerably. The latter is also why OP's post is misguided.
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u/iDoWeird 1d ago
If it worked for Lux Interior…
But the amount of red wine and debaucherous ambiance required for that to work is way past their capabilities.
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u/founderofshoneys 1d ago
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u/iDoWeird 1d ago edited 1d ago
I got to see this in person a few years before he passed! One of my first “I’m a grownup” shows.
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u/The_Real_Slim_Lemon 1d ago
It is actually 4 times weaker, by inverse square law - looks aside she’d get pretty decent quality out of that relatively speaking
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u/RedRaiderRocking 1d ago
I do this during team meetings lol
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u/indelicatedenial 1d ago
I tape mine to my face during team meetings because I know it’s distracting to the team. I also flare my nostrils a lot because it’s the only facial expression I can claim isn’t a direct response to how this should have been a fucking email.
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u/PunchDrunkPrincess 1d ago
I like it when they clip it onto a prop
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u/JohnMichaels19 1d ago
The more unusual or outrageous the better. Guy i watch clipped his mic to a full sized sword once, it was incredible
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u/Anxious-Signature346 1d ago
Many people now call each other on speakerphone because that's what people on TV and social media do.
Not realizing they do that so the camera can hear both sides of the conversation.
Now I got to commute with that shit around me.
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u/Phil_O_Sophiclee 1d ago
I often join in their conversations, much to their absolute disgust but if you want to have a private conversation don't have it on speakerphone in public
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u/thesirblondie 1d ago
Creators have tested. Videos perform better when they hold the mic rather than have it clipped.
And they use these lavs because they're easy to transport and work with your phone.
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u/k0nverse 1d ago
I think it’s because when they do interviews they move it over to the interviewee so then they just end up using it like a portable handheld mic indefinitely lol
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u/Trashbagok 1d ago
Don't pretend like it isn't just some "influencer" sitting in their bedroom talking about nonsense 99% of the time.
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u/Urabraska- 1d ago
Let me show you the proper way to turn on a light switch in 10 easy step!(video is exactly 11 minutes long)
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u/gdim15 1d ago
I saw a YouTube video that explained this behavior as a way to seem more authentic. That as lighting, staging and cameras got better creators started to seem too polished. So they broke out those small microphones to recapture the feel they had lost.
I don't get how it makes it authentic just relaying a memory of something I watched.
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u/SuperRob 1d ago
Same way the talking head YouTubers are starting to pull the boom mic into the frame before they start speaking now. Someone gets engagement with a new style and it starts getting rapidly cloned.
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u/Trashbagok 1d ago
I hate this trend with the power of the sun. It's also fun when they turn the gain up all the way so they don't have to speak louder than a whisper and you get to hear all those wet mouth noises just as loud as the words they're speaking.
On the other hand, no one holding a lapel mic in their fingertips has ever said anything of consequence, so in my case the problem kind of works itself out...
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u/MintyManiacFan 1d ago
I don’t care how they hold it I am just so glad they are using it! Gone are the days of using the shitty built in mic on the camera! We finally have consistently good audio in videos.
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u/Mccobsta GREEN 1d ago
There's a strange reason for it
They do it as people who scroll all day think it looks more authentic
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u/figmentPez 1d ago
Here, let me just clip you on:
There, that'll do.
(Pic is FromScratchBakery)