r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Ok_Astronaut_1781 • 17d ago
go to your room Anyone know the bright spark at Apple who invented this? I bet Steve wouldn’t have let this one through qc.
I’ve had this mouse for years, I know, old model, but come on
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u/SaltManagement42 17d ago
I bet Steve wouldn’t have let this one through qc.
This is exactly the kind of shit Steve forced everyone to deal with.
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u/SafariNZ 17d ago
Yes, designed so it forces people to use it wirelessly vs plugged in.
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u/champgpt 17d ago
Also, no garish charging port visible when the mouse is in use
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u/probablyaythrowaway 17d ago
Mad thing is, I can’t see the usb port on my mx 3 when it’s not plugged in and being used. So they absolutely could have put it on the front.
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u/angry_at_erething 17d ago
In other words you can't used it wired when the battery won't hold a charge anymore
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u/pharcide 17d ago
There was so much stupid designed shit during his tenure, so although he had passed, this was on par.
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u/samppa_j 17d ago
Cough cough, apple 3.
No seriously look it up, jobs wanted a ventless computer, in the 80's. Take a guess how that went
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u/retsof81 17d ago
Its even worse when you come to know that Apple already had experienced this issue with the Apple II, which was aslo initially released with a ventless case, leading to an eventual recall and replacement plan for an updated, vented case design.
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u/Traditional-Day-7698 17d ago
defined the term "percussive maintenance"
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u/retsof81 17d ago
I would think the term "subtractive reconstruction" would be more apt for this situation. ;)
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u/BloodyOphelia 17d ago
How that vent*
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u/MarenHQ 17d ago
Mf vampire in here
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u/Th3GrimmReaper 17d ago
VON mistake, ah ah ahhhh
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u/Automatic-Leg1668 17d ago
TWO, AH AH AHHHH
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u/Jealous_Response_492 17d ago
Next Computers too, would have been great high end graphical workstations, had they had sufficient cooling, but they didn't, Job's wanted them silent, no noisy fans.
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u/mindtoxicity27 17d ago
People forget the infamous “Don’t hold it that way” response to holding the phone a certain way making the antenna malfunction.
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u/Kaiisim 17d ago
He'd also fully be part of the asshole tech billionaires.
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u/Nothos927 17d ago
He already was, the class just hadn’t managed to burn through all their good will yet
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u/thewrongairport 17d ago edited 17d ago
He had not passed.
The first-generation Magic Mouse was released on October 20, 2009 (Source)
Steven Paul Jobs (February 24, 1955 – October 5, 2011)
On August 24, 2011, Jobs announced his resignation as Apple's CEO, writing to the board [...] Jobs continued to work for Apple until the day before his death six weeks later." (Source)
He was alive and in charge when the mouse firsr came out. He 100% let this shitty design pass.
Edit: I stand corrected. The first version used AA batteries. My mistake, sorry.
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u/GayYahoo 17d ago
the magic mouse 1, released in 2009, used batteries. the magic mouse 2, released in 2015, is the one in the picture.
i thought the same so i read the wikipedia page for the magic mouse.
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u/NessunAbilita 17d ago
He’d design it like this so people couldn’t perpetually leave it plugged in…. You know like a regular mouse…………….
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u/Son_of_Atreus 17d ago
The upside down Apple logo on early designs was down to thinking it made more sense to have it appear to the user as being correct when the laptop is closed.
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u/Frankenrogers 17d ago
Funny I watched Legally Blonde with my kids last week and noticed the upside down Apple on her Mac Book and it stuck out like a sore thumb. I was wondering when they made the change.
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u/MidnightPulse69 17d ago
People need to stop putting Steve Jobs on a pedestal. He was an arrogant nut who has made plenty of bad calls
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u/Dead-O_Comics 17d ago
His worst call cost him his life.
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u/mistaoononymous 17d ago
CANCER! Doing the Jobs YOU hate!
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u/ABA477 17d ago
Dude was so self important and thought he knew everything, including not listening to doctors. He would be alive today if it weren't from that "my diet will cure cancer" attitude. I was at the UTSHC in Memphis when he massively jumped the line for a liver transplant. People are still angry to this day.
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u/SunOnTheMountains 17d ago
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u/ABA477 17d ago
Hey, thanks for sharing that. Hundreds of Doctors and thousands of students of all UTHSC (University of Tennessee Health Science Center) campuses were pissed. I personally loved Steve Jobs and am a huge Apple fanboy, but he didn't deserve the treatment he got after being so careless with his holistic approach. It's something that we all have learned from and can continue to learn from. I think the average person can learn a lot from this too. Listen to your doctors and do your holistic approach on the side. It def helps, but isn't good enough on its own.
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u/HapticFeedback247 17d ago
An Apple a day couldn't keep his doctor away.
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u/BroMan001 17d ago
He kinda did keep his doctor away though, which is why he died
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u/Feeling_Mixture3088 17d ago
He also went on a fruitarian diet, so looks like he really didn't want a doctor anywhere near him.
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u/CycloneDusk 17d ago edited 16d ago
sometimes i still wonder if it really literally was just the refusal to eat anything except fruit that actually caused the cancer that killed him - surviving exclusively on starch, sugar, and fiber...
Like, people rag on vegans and stuff for "not getting enough nutrition" but vegans honestly lead a waaaaay healthier life than that because they still actually get proteins and fats from beans and nuts and other legumes and whatnot.
But moreover? It was Pancreatic Cancer. As in, The Organ That Makes Insulin. The Insulin your body uses to digest sugar and starch. Sugar and starch like what you find in fruit. Sugar and starch that happen to be--usually--the ONLY significant sources of calories in fruit... because the rest is usually fiber.
And here's the thing about starch: your body pretty much converts it straight into sugar as the very first step of processing it. Enzymes in your stomach and even in your saliva start chopping up those long polysaccharide chains we call 'starch' into the tiny monosaccharides we call 'sugar'. so... now-sugar plus later-sugar. Sheeeeeeesh, he might've managed to burn out his pancreas from that much overwork.
Edit: There does not seem to be any link between excessive sugar processing and pancreatic cancer, actually. I was spurred to look into it and reconsider.
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u/Peastoredintheballs 17d ago
From memory, I saw a short documentary or something that talked about how his specific form of pancreatic cancer was actually theoretically curable, however this cancer also theoretically had some specific genetic flaw that allowed it to actually become more aggressive when vegetables/fruits were consumed in excess quantities, I can’t remember specifics but maybe it was carrot related, so his lack of actual medical treatment, and over consumption of carrots to treat the cancer, actually led to the opposite effect
So you know, you’re not too far off the ball
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u/makegifsnotjifs 17d ago
Nah man if you just eat organic fruit and meditate, cancer ain't no thang.
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u/squeakynickles 17d ago
You also can't smell bad and therefore don't need to bathe.
Steve Jobs smelled fucking horrible
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u/Medium-Presence-8008 17d ago
Good. It was deliciously poetic that PC killed him in the end.
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u/Simoxs7 17d ago
Iirc it was also completely unnecessary if he just would‘ve used conventional medicine instead of going down the esoteric herbal route, he would’ve probably survived.
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u/Axl_Alter_Ego 17d ago
I haven't looked into it in a very long time but the last time I did I read an article from a cancer specialist basislly saying he committed suicide.
His chances were that good with conventional treatment.
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u/Madaratogue 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yes, almost all forms of pancreatic cancer have very very grim prognosis.
However he had one of only two variants that have comparatively low mortality rates, even for regular people (read: the poors). As a billionaire his survival would have been almost assured with proper medical treatment.
Instead he ate exclusively fruit at the recommendation of his personal guru, in which the high sugar content put undue stress on his pancreas. In addition to forgoing actual cancer treatment, this resulted in his accelerated demise.
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u/R3D3-1 17d ago
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u/TricellCEO 17d ago
Which is even more ironic given how pancreatic cancer has a really shit survival rate.
The worst of all the cancers, I believe.
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u/edwbuck 17d ago
You're partially right. Some pancreatic cancers have bad survival rates. Steve had basically "the most treatable form of pancreatic cancer possible" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancreatic_neuroendocrine_tumor
His survival rate was estimated to be ~90% (defined by being cancer free for 5 years) mostly due to his early detection and his luck in getting a very treatable cancer.
Instead he drank herbal tea, ate herbal supplements, and started an aggressive acupuncture regimen. He started surrounding himself with MDs that would entertain his approach to treatment, and removed the ones that objected.
This is 100% in keeping with how he did everything. He was the source of an idea, and if you didn't like it, he removed you, even if the idea was a stinker. He was at the center of every decision, didn't permit anything not to his tastes, shipped products before the were ready (blaming his team when they fell apart), never killed failing products, and treated his team as obstacles to success.
That's how he killed the Lisa, which actually worked, replacing it with the Macintosh, which was painfully slow and lacked a hard drive. And to make sure the Lisa, which wasn't designed with his input, didn't compete, he literally buried 2,700 working models in a landfill.
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u/Pleasant-Ambition-15 17d ago
I lost a friend to it, it’s one of the cancers you get almost no warning for. Pretty much everyone in his group was diagnosed stage 4, because it’s just so hard to catch early.
That and men like to skip prostate exams. Don’t skip your prostate exam, or your colonoscopy!
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u/TricellCEO 17d ago
My stepmom's dad managed to survive it, only to have the cancer return years later. Ironically, he might've been able to survive it a second time if he had actually gone to the doctor when he wasn't feeling well.
And then my idiot father had the audacity to blame doctors for not doing their job when he died. To be fair, I recall hearing how it was some scar-tissue that formed in his stomach, blocking a lot of what he ate, that ultimately did him in. So yeah, I don't believe this man even died from the cancer either.
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u/Warbird01 17d ago
You’re thinking of prostate cancer? Steve had pancreatic, colonoscopy doesn’t catch that
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u/Afraid_Comparison180 17d ago
It's kind of on brand, though. He is basically a hippie tech cult leader, so...
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u/Imaginary-Throat1526 17d ago
*was
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u/Upset-Nose-4016 17d ago
He lives rent free in motivational speakers' brains, so it's fair to say he is a tech cult leader still
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u/Clever-Name69420 17d ago
- Hippie
- Tech
- Rich capitalist
So many contradictions
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u/TricellCEO 17d ago
Hippies are a contradiction just by themselves, are they not?
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u/Ongr 17d ago
IIRC, a lot of hippies were pretty privileged and just didn't want to go to war, do drugs and have sex.
A lot of woodstock hippies are now bitter MAGA crowd, not the idealized "peace and love" hippies. Those are few and far between, or of a later generation.
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u/Dead-O_Comics 17d ago
... and he tried to combat PC with apples.
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u/PlanktonFun5387 17d ago
I thought it was carrots
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u/Dead-O_Comics 17d ago
It was a bit of everything, he tried to fight a highly treatable form of cancer with a fruitarian diet.
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u/Ding-Dong-Dutch 17d ago
He was an arrogant asshole. He used to buy a new car every year because of a California loophole that excluded him from getting a license plate. And then he'd park in handicapped spots.
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u/jeffbell 17d ago
It was six months. He arranged for a series of five month leases.
California now requires temporary plates.
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u/beipphine 17d ago
It's not hard to get , walk into a mercedes dealer, request a 5 month lease and say "I don't care what it cost", sign on the dotted line and your out the door with a brand new Mercedes. No haggling required.
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u/1nfam0us 17d ago
Don't forget, he was also famously very stinky.
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 17d ago
My favorite part about that whole weirdness is there are a good few people who said he would actually gaslight people if ever called out on it. He was eating the right diet so he couldn't possibly smell bad, they were just having a tough time because they were eating the wrong diet!
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u/potate12323 17d ago edited 17d ago
Wasn't he behind that macintosh desktop where part of the manufacturer troubleshooting was to lift it up a few inches and then drop it on your desk? Gaint brick with no active cooling nor easy way to service the components.
If anything modern apple is doubling down on Steves original design philosophy
Edit: it was an apple III model. Not a macintosh. Thx
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u/Oosafaygus 17d ago
That was apple 3, jobs insisted they remove the fans due to noise so they overheated and the chips used to pop out of the sockets. Lifting the whole computer up and banging it down was to pop them back in. No joke.
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u/GreasedUpTiger 17d ago
Curious how he didn't choose to go scream at fan manufacturers to come up with less noisy fans lol
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u/Crafty-Astronomer-32 17d ago
Apple had significantly less influence at the time.
Also the noise was as likely to be airflow through the case as noise from the actual fan.
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u/MidnightPulse69 17d ago
Lmao I didn’t know about that. The one that sticks out to me is him saying people were holding their phones wrong causing antenna issues
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u/D3mentedG0Ose 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yeah that was very much an annoyance with the iPhone 4. Your hand would cover the antennas at the bottom of the phone if you held it in your left hand. This was fixe dwith the 4S
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u/themanfromvulcan 17d ago
It was not the Macintosh it was an Apple III model. Thermal expansion and contraction over time would cause some of the chips to unseat themselves from their sockets and a common solution advised by support was to lift the machine a few inches and then drop it to reseat them.
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u/berejser 17d ago
The iPhone 4 (the last phone released during Jobs' lifetime) was notorious for the antenna having reception issues. Apple's response to this was to put out a statement telling everyone it was not a design flaw, they were all just holding their phones wrong.
They are the same company they have always been.
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u/fnordius 17d ago
In fact, I think he explicitly wanted this. The point was that he didn't want anyone using a cable on a mouse, it ruined the aesthetics. It was either this or keep using AA batteries.
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u/Cute_Pay_1423 17d ago
Steve Wozniak still wouldn’t let this through
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u/Teleconferences 17d ago
Woz doesn’t get enough credit, it always makes me sad
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u/PsychologicalAnt2302 17d ago
I’m pretty sure he was alive and well when the Magic Mouse came out too.
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u/RimjobStevesDeadWife 17d ago
Steve Jobs was featured on an episode of Behind the Bastards and I recommend it to anyone. Not only was he an arrogant nut who made plenty of bad calls as you say, he was just plain weird and pretty much a bad person.
Steve Wozniak is a good dude though
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u/UnusualCartographer2 17d ago
Not to mention how the company skyrocketed under Tim Cook's leadership. It went from a company worth $350 billion to a company worth $3 trillion.
If airpods were their own separate company it would be worth roughly $250 billion. That's nearly the worth of Apple at the time of Steve's passing.
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u/Hot-Clothes7316 17d ago
to be fair, it's hard to fail when you have had iphone, ipad, ipod, macbook, imac already invented and doing well in the market.
under cook's leadership they continued the rest and only invented that vision pro and apple watch? and maybe mac studio.
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u/UnusualCartographer2 17d ago
Well that's getting to the reason as to why Tim did so well. He expanded Apple's infrastructure by optimizing their supply chain, as well as him personally doing a lot of genuine international diplomacy with world leaders in order to make their products more worldwide. He also cut costs by eliminating a lot of overhead. In all fairness, a good portion of that was by employing cheap labor in developing countries, and while Apple was cutting costs those savings didn't actually apply to consumers as product prices went up. Not to say it was the majority of that was from shady business practices though.
Also worth noting that under his leadership both the Apple watch and the airpods were launched, and I already mentioned how successful the airpods have been, but the apple watch would also be worth ~$150 billion as a standalone company. That is worth more than Target as a brand.
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u/nemoknows 17d ago
Tim Cook really doesn’t fit the tech bro mold, but he is an exceptionally astute and successful accountant and absolutely deserves a ton of credit for Apple’s success.
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u/Barbanks 17d ago
It’s much easier to scale something that already works than to right the ship. I believe Cook wouldn’t have been able to bring Apple back around after the Scully years. Cook has a terrific sense for operations but Jobs got all of the gears oiled for Cook.
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u/MidnightPulse69 17d ago
Not the biggest fan of how Apple has become under Cook either but yeah
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u/StrengthfromDeath 17d ago
He made apple successful by shifting the focus to a lifestyle brand over a technology brand. The magic mouse was probably ripped straight out of his design sketchbook.
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u/Avalonians 17d ago
Also who didn't work in quality control at all
And it's worth mentioning that quality control has nothing to do with wherever the fuck the charging port is placed
OP is just babbling nonsense trying to sound smart
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u/Alarmed-Strawberry-7 17d ago
they want to force you to use it wireless so that you feel the "magic" of a wireless mouse. apple doesn't trust you to leave the mouse unplugged and experience the "magic"
problem with that being that, besides it being stupid and condescending, most people will end up with a random charging cable strewn around their desk just to make sure they can charge their mouse
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u/schwarzkraut 17d ago
The entire problem would’ve been rendered completely moot had they opted for a drop-in charger with a proprietary connector (they do love those). After powering your computer down you could just drop it nose-first into the docking station. Next day pull it out & not have to repeat this for months. No unsightly cord disturbing the „magic“. A convenient ritual to charge the mouse when needed.
It just goes to show you…if you need or want to force a specific behavior…there’s always a nice way to do it.
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u/dikicker 17d ago
Well look at Mr big shot Steve Apple over here with his fancy ideas
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u/MGPS 17d ago
Idk, I don’t want a mouse dock taking up space. This uses the same cable as my iPhone. Which I already have all over the place.
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u/Lifeboon 17d ago
And if you got the keyboard you can also charge the keyboard with it.
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u/MGPS 17d ago
And also….i never have to charge this mouse! I’ve had it for like 15 years and have charged it a handful of times lol. I like the mouse. I love scrolling with it.
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u/DataDrivenDoc 17d ago
I dunno I think the problem is rendered moot considering you only charge it for less than 2 hours every 6 months.
I've had this moss for a few years and it really is a non issue. I've had to charge it like 3 times
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u/crumble-bee 17d ago
Nothing Apple has done (and fixed) will ever be as stupid (and elegant) as the switch from stupidly charging your Apple Pencil in the port on an iPad to snapping it on magnetically to the side and charging it that was. How can you go from something so dumb to so clever, it’s just wonderful
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u/314flavoredpie 17d ago
I’ve had the same $10 Logitech wireless mouse for over ten years; it uses one AA battery that I have had to replace twice during its lifespan. No cable, no charging. Apple has always just loved over-engineering their products and reinventing the wheel but worse.
Sent from my iPhone
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u/offoutover 17d ago
most people will end up with a random charging cable strewn around their desk just to make sure they can charge their mouse
I just use my phone charger for the 2-3 times a year I charge my mouse.
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u/tacticalgh0st 17d ago
It wasn’t a random cable though, it was the same cable people used for their iPhone, iPad, AirPods etc… also as many people have stated, it’s a non issue, it’s enough to charge it for like 20mins every few weeks/months.
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u/Mysterious_Wafer554 17d ago
Yeah I charge it over night once every six months or so. It ran out of charge one time — plugged it in for five mins and got through a few days usage.
People are making such a fuss over nothing
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u/liquilife 17d ago
I have used a Magic Mouse for 8 years or so now. Not once have I been inconvenienced with how it charges. I charge it like once a month for 15-20 minutes. 🤷
And I have one lightening cable for the mouse, my keyboard, phone charger and headphones. It’s one cable that gets plenty of use.
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u/freshpandasushi 17d ago
its actually an intentional design choice, Apple doesn't want people to use the mouse plugged in because they think it looks ugly having a cord on the mouse
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u/chacewarg10 17d ago
iMac G3 puck mouse would argue that Jobs would ABSOLUTELY release a terrible mouse.
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u/Munken1984 17d ago
On the plus side, you might get carpal tunnel when using is...
Also, dont this mouse hold a charge for like 10 years, you could also just cahage it over night instead of doing this...
Also also, you could just get a new, better mouse without the apple logo...
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u/Astartes2435 17d ago
I use one daily. Only need to charge it like 20mins every 3-4 months.
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u/tannerherriott 17d ago
Totally agree. I’ve had several over the years and never been in a spot where the battery being dead was an issue.
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u/KaliTheLoving 17d ago
Hey let's be fair, I started using them in 2018 and I did have one time when I did have it die on my while I was working. It took an entire MINUTE to charge it enough for the rest of my day!! Worst design ever and my day was ruined!
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u/NamerNotLiteral 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yeah. The mildly infuriating part is OP karma farming over a mouse they have never used. OP's making the rest of us look stupid.
The charging port is not the issue. You can plug it in, sneeze, take out the cable and it's charged enough to be used for the rest of the day.
The actual ergonomics of the mouse are what's godawful, but obviously only people who've used it will complain about it.
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u/One_pop_each 17d ago
If you search this sub for this exact mouse you will find a dozen other posts with the same rage bait.
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u/Different_Target_228 17d ago
Steve Jobs died 2 years after the first Magic Mouse.
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u/Ok-Film-6885 17d ago
The first gen wasn’t rechargable though, it had 2 AA batteries
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u/Ill-Opening-3782 17d ago
But the first magic mouse came with replaceable batteries, not with a lightning port
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u/tasslehawf 17d ago
It originally had two AA batteries so going to this scheme was an iterative engineering choice
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u/Crazy__Donkey 17d ago
its not the mouse designer fault you bought this abomination of a mouse.
p/s
regardless the charging port located at the bottom, this is a terrible and inconvenient mouse grip design. you made Stevey very happy by spending your dollars on this shit.
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u/H__D 17d ago
They keep throwing money at Apple and get surprised they won't change their anti consumer practices. I wonder if there are any other brand followers like that, maybe some fashion brands.
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u/coaxialdrift 17d ago
Yeah this one happened while Steve Jobs was in charge. This mouse is an old design
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u/MarsupialNo1220 17d ago
How are you running out of juice? I’ve had my mouse for years, using it for forty hours a week, and I hardly ever have to charge it. When I do I just plug it in overnight.
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u/Acid_Monster 17d ago
This is such a non problem that I see used online all the time to hate on Apple.
It takes literally not even 2 minutes to get you enough charge for a few more days. Wayyyy more than you’ll need to finish work for the day and charge it over night.
Go get make a coffee, come back and it’s done lol
This is no different to when my LG mouse runs out of batteries and I have to go hunt down x2 AA’s
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u/CarelessShade 17d ago
At this point it’s just pure karma farming. Everyone who regularly used or uses that mouse knows it’s not an issue.
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u/paleporkchop 17d ago
IIRC the reason for this is because they wanted it to be purely a wireless mouse. The didn’t want people to use it while it was plugged in. It was a very intentional design
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u/KasperBuyens 17d ago
Why would you even buy an apple mouse. Far better far cheaper options out there
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u/Ok-Key-9261 17d ago
dude Steve, Jobs didn't think chemotherapy was real and thought if he drank carrot juice he would be able to rid the cancer from his body. just because he was good at selling stuff. doesn't mean he's smart
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u/kenwongart 17d ago
Steve Jobs frequently made decisions that prioritized style over convenience/functionality.