r/mantids Jan 07 '20

Enclosure Advice PSA: Exo-terras, metal mesh and your mantises toes! (and some advice on how to DIY an affordable enclosure)

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I was asked to make this post in another thread - so here I am. Here's a PSA on what metal mesh does to your mantises feet, and why it should be avoided!

This is a raptorial arm, (the front, grasping arms) but the segment we're interested in is the same on all of their legs. The little portion labelled "Tarsus" is what we're looking at here. You can see that it ends in a set of hooks - often (somewhat confusingly) called "Claws" - these tarsal claws are what give your mantis the ability to walk upside down on surfaces that appear quite smooth to us, and why it feels kind of spiky when a large mantis walks on your skin. They're essential for your mantis to move around, and most importantly moult properly! Differences in the morphology of this structure also give some mantises the ability to walk on glass, whilst others can't.

If you go and look at one of your mantises feet, you will likely be able to see the little hooks now you know what you're looking for. Now the problem is that some tank setups that are commonly recommended damage these hooks, which results in mantises having trouble moving around, and falling whilst they moult.

Exo-terra tanks are very commonly used because a lot of us have other inverts or exotic pets and have spares lying around, or they're sold to us at petstores. They make nice display tanks and are easy to clean. However - the mesh at the top of exo-terra tanks is made of very fine metal, and the holes themselves are very small. This is essentially like you trying to hang by your toes from chickenwire, eventually your toes are going to be pretty damaged, or come off altogether! If you must use an exo-terra, it's essential that the mesh is changed to stop this from occurring. Plastic tulle mesh is easily available and works as an excellent substitute.

There is also a multitude of DIY options available, which I will detail bellow:

Basic requirements for all enclosures:

  • All mantis enclosures must be at least three times the length of the mantis (Don't get fooled by the abdomen curling up, you still need to account for it) and two times the width.
  • There must be something for the mantis to hang securely from at the top of the tank - They will spend 99% of their time at the highest point, and will often moult from it.
  • Substrate - options for suitable substrate are numerous, you can use simple tissue paper, cocoa coir, vermiculite, perlite etc. The object is to hold some moisture and make it easy for you to clean. Cheap and cheerful is the way to go, unless you're making a planted display tank or something like that.
  • The less decoration the better. Decoration is more for our benefit than theirs; before you add something decorative to a tank, consider your reasons for adding it. Practicality should always take precedent over a tank looking nice!
  • Ventilation - ventilation is important for hygiene reasons.

Nymphs

  • Cups

The absolute single best enclosure for a nymph of any species, is simply a plastic deli cup with the lid cut out to accommodate some plastic mesh, and a single twig placed diagonally. Alternately, you can just use an elastic band to hold the mesh on. For feeding, simply cut a hole in the side and stuff it with some sponge to stop live food or your mantis escaping, you can pooter in the food. (if you don't have a pooter you should get one, especially if dealing with fruitflies, they're also very easy to DIY)

  • Cricket/livefood tubs

The tubs that livefood is commonly sold in make excellent tanks with some modification, especially for larger nymphs, and even small adults. The more rigid ones are the best, as they're easily cut to allow the insertion of mesh, and can be stood up tall-ways. The entire lid can be cut out and replaced with mesh, which provides excellent ventilation, and is nice for the mantis to move around on.

Adults

  • Plastic penny sweet jars (Sorry Americans I have no idea what these would be called in your country)
  • Tupperware/food containers
  • Storage containers

All can be modified in the same ways as above. I will either append this post, or make an additional post, detailing how to make a suitable enclosure using the items above with pictures in future.

These enclosures are all very cheap to construct, and even the most DIY averse person can make the modifications necessary to turn them into good enclosures. They also have the benefit of being mostly recycled items a lot of us will already possess.

Another benefit to using tanks mostly constructed of mesh is that it prevents mantises from developing "eye-rub" - this is damage to their eyes from repeatedly trying to walk through clear plastic or glass - it looks like large black spots on the eyes, distinct from the pseudo-pupils - which can in cases turn necrotic and is quite a nasty way for your mantis to die.

I hope this post was helpful and informative, and please don't hesitate to ask any questions or add to the knowledge given here if you have any other tips or advice.

References: https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/12542/


r/mantids Sep 28 '22

ID Help A Quick Reference Guide to Wild Praying Mantises of the United States

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r/mantids 15h ago

Preservation Finally got the courage to preserve my babys today

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r/mantids 12h ago

Image/Video I just wanted to show off my little guy

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I fell in love with ghost mantises and am now the proud owner of two ghosts and a giant Asian mantis. This lil guy taph (short for taphonomy) has grown the most of the 3 of them and I’m just so happy to have them and watch them grow so I wanted to share :)


r/mantids 7h ago

Image/Video my little boy with a floppy crown/crest :>

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i7 adult male ghost mantis, floppy crown is because of a secretive subadult molt where he was probably severely dehydrated when the molt happened and for his entire time of being a subadult he was lethargic but could still do most things on his own.


r/mantids 4h ago

Health Issues Unsure of what is going on with my mantis!! Please help!!

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Venus is, I believe, sub-adult now as she has slightly visible wing buds. Now, usually she goes into premolt pretty much exactly every 2 weeks, and well, I believe that’s what she did. She hung upside down for 2 days and her abdomen turned white. However, I went out for a couple of hours and returned home. Her enclosure had become quite dry, which I’m not sure is a contributing factor, but when I came back she had moved and was on the side of her enclosure, not upside down. Her abdomen also seems to have returned to normal colour and is very flat as it never inflated, so I’m not sure if I should feed her. She’s become a little more active and there is no visible molt. There were a few disturbances so I don’t know if the combination of that and the lack of humidity caused her to abort the premolt (if they are able to do that) or if she’s molted and then eaten it fully which I don’t believe she has done. What is going on, and what can I do for her??


r/mantids 5h ago

Image/Video Just a Baby

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r/mantids 7h ago

Image/Video So scary!

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r/mantids 9h ago

Feeding mantis sucks at eating

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he is utterly terrified of every food source i give him. he's so stupid.

i found this guy outside and since he's invasive i took him and put him in my terrarium. i've fed him a super worm and a dubia before after much trial and error. he molted two days ago so I was planning to get him a meal again but he's so darn scared of everything.

the terrarium is full of isopods so he might be snacking on them (but given how frightened he is of everything and how he is only ever on the ceiling i sort of doubt it).

any tips to get this guy to eat? i didn't want to stress him out too much so i gave up for today. are there any better ways to feed him? early in the morning, right after misting, etc?

edit: i mean it endearingly when i call him stupid


r/mantids 10h ago

Sex related question Help with sexing Chinese Mantis

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I think I count 8 segments but I'm not super confident in my abilities yet lol. Any help appreciated! :)


r/mantids 1h ago

Image/Video Our Rainbow pair

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My Sphodropoda Quinquedens pair.

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  1. Belphegor - Presub Female

  2. Male - Sub Male


r/mantids 8h ago

Image/Video I've been feeding my pet cicada larvae, but they're so big, when should I stop feeding them to it?

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This is a Japanese broad-winged mantis.


r/mantids 2h ago

Health Issues Help identifying a potential infection/disease?

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(Unfortunately I can't include image evidence as it's too difficult to photograph)

Over the past couple days I've noticed somewhat large? bead-like spots around their mandibles and face. The spots are present in clumps but don't move, even once they clean themselves.

I haven't noticed any particular behaviour differences apart from an increased restlessness and much more frequent pooping (one of which has grey poop).

There's 2 mantids with these 'spots' in question:

1x Deroplatys Desiccata (Molted to adulthood on 23rd December 2025)

1x Hierodula Membranacea (Molted to adulthood on 7th May 2026)


r/mantids 3h ago

Feeding when should I feed her again?

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I fed her earlier and I don't know when to feed her again/when I should feed her again

(first time owner btw)

also is it normal for them to not want to hunt? I have to cut a mealworm in half and put the open part to her mouth to get her to eat — any tips on how to get her to eat/hunt normally? 😓

she's climbing in my hair rn, pls give me tips on how to raise her as well!! :D


r/mantids 3h ago

Image/Video My rhombodera valida molting

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He is almost done.But still im very carefull.So proud of him🤞 ps. Inclosure change will happen this week for him


r/mantids 13h ago

General Care brought this dude inside bc hes non-native and i dont want him eating the monarchs. what to feed him?

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r/mantids 12h ago

ID Help ID and what instar my mantids are in?

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Hey everyone!! I recently got 2 mantids from different places. The first one I purchased at a reptile expo and the seller didn’t give me any ID or instar stage on the mantid (green one). The second one is a yunnan flower mantis but I don’t know her instar stage either. Any advice is appreciated!


r/mantids 1d ago

Image/Video Appreciation for my mantis

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This is my mantis called pea had her for about a month now and shes molted once and grown her wings shes got such a funny little personality and i love her brought some joy in my life again.


r/mantids 23h ago

ID Help Id for this mantis

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Found this little guy in sri lanka and im unsure on the species anyone that can help?


r/mantids 17h ago

Feeding Avg Rate of Consumption?

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Getting a Mantis here soon, in the medium to large range, do they eat enough to try and maintain a dubia colony or something like that or is it not high enough to keep the dubia colony population from exploding?


r/mantids 17h ago

Image/Video Praying Mantis Question

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I found this cutie last Wednesday (a week ago). She molted on Saturday and today ate an entire housefly (took her 2 hours). Is that normal? When should I feed her next? TIA!


r/mantids 1d ago

Health Issues Spiny flower mantis died early?

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Hi, I’m currently on holiday and have been having my aunt to mist my mantids and feed them. She has a snake and knows a lot about mantids so I am not worried about husbandry issues while I am gone. She’s been calling me daily to let me know she’s been misting them and has fed one of my mantids that molted the day I left. I’ve only been gone for 5 days and she called me this morning about my spiny flower mantis. He was laying upside down and fully limp definitely dead. I told her not to worry cus I know her husbandry has been spot on tho I am confused on why he died. I don’t think it was old age as he has only been an adult for just over a month. I also fed him well on the day I left so I don’t think he starved as it’s only been 5 days. She was supposed to feed him today but hasn’t cus he’s dead. I’m not sure why he may have died cus everything seemed ideal. Does anyone know why he might have died?


r/mantids 19h ago

Feeding I need a better feeding strategy for this dude

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he got through his final moult now, and I need to figure out something that works better than letting him catch the free-roaming baby dubias in there by himself(since thong feeding tiny mealworms or roaches upside down isn't working out and he either can't grab it from me or freaks out). I know this is a pretty lazy post but if someone would just guide me to the masterthread or some youtube videos on this I'd really appreciate it please and thank you 🙏🙏


r/mantids 23h ago

General Care Molt Soon?

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wing buds are pretty big


r/mantids 1d ago

General Care My mantis last molting was 5 weeks ago, should I be worried?

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Shes L4, I started goving her less food cause her belly not getting flat even after few days so I assumed she's full. But she dont molt yet so I start worrying. I spray walls in her ilclosure with water daily