r/YouShouldKnow Dec 20 '25

Education YSK that you can opt of the face scanning at airport security

Why YSK: More than a few of my friends/family members have expressed discomfort at the procedure, but didn't know, until I mentioned it, that you're allowed to opt out. All you do is say "I'd like to opt out", and then TSA will visually match your face to your ID like they used to in the olden days. Hope this helps someone lol

edit: i'll just add my thoughts because there have been some actual responses to this (happy to delete if not allowed)

1) "they already have thousands of photos of you" okay so I don't think they need one more :) 2) "what does that even do?" immediately? nothing. over time? maybe something. mass surveillance works because most people are either fine with it, don't care, or think it's pointless to make a fuss (which are all valid takes). I choose to make a fuss, because

a) it's my right

b) i don't like it

c) maybe my efforts are part of a collective movement/cultural shift that might actually have an impact one day. just because i won't see the fruits of my labor doesn't mean i shouldn't bother to plant the seeds at all, especially when it costs me nothing and makes me more comfortable in my day to day existing

but that's just how i see things, so, to each their own

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

Ysk there is a big sign by the scanner that says you can opt out. Its required by law to be posted.

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u/itsmebrian Dec 20 '25

Last time I was at the airport, the sign was right next to the scanner. By the time you were close enough to read the sign, the scan was already complete.

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

To be fair by the time you reach the scanner your face has been scanned and recognized for a while.

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u/Subparwoman Dec 20 '25

I still wear masks in public though so at most they have my eyes and that's if they don't have trouble seeing them through my glasses. 

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u/Mediocre-Wrongdoer14 Dec 20 '25

Bruh, they have the windows to your soul. It may not hold up in a US court but they have a pretty good idea of who you are from just that.

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u/StuntHacks Dec 20 '25

Also facial recognition software has developed immensely in the last decade. Eyes are more than enough. Hell, we don't even need faces anymore. Gait detection is infinitely harder to obscure and works just as well at identifying

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u/notproudortired Dec 20 '25

Who has a normal gait at an airport? It's dragging, hitching, dodging, or weaving every other step.

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

Also they can read info from your wifi and cell connection. if you're at the airport in the US its known.

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u/Common_Sandwich_7721 Dec 21 '25

I thought gait detection has been shown to be mostly pseudoscience?

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u/StuntHacks Dec 21 '25

Has it? Its not my field of expertise so it might be, but I can't find much about that being the case. Last I heard it was something people very much pursued and had success with but I could very easily be wrong

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u/Narrow-Height9477 Dec 20 '25

Your face emits thermal patterns that can be detected through glasses and masks.

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u/ConditionalDisco Dec 20 '25

Yep, I only realized it was optional when I was looking directly at it having my face scanned on the last leg of my trip

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u/Likemypups Dec 21 '25

Kabuki theater all the way down.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

Ysk most people would rather complain about something than read.

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

Ysk I didnt finish reading your comment but I dont like it.

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u/CryoWreck Dec 20 '25

Ysk that otters have skin pockets for their favorite rocks :D

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u/Stag-Horn Dec 20 '25

YSK that made me smile this morning and I’m very thankful for you.

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u/Original_Intention Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

Now I don't know about the rest of this thread but that was very valuable information.

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u/justin_memer Dec 20 '25

Threat?

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

The threat of being killed by an otter is low... But its not zero.

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u/Original_Intention Dec 20 '25

Fat thumbs lol

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u/dinnerisbreakfast Dec 20 '25

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u/CryoWreck Dec 20 '25

I did know that. But it's not a FUN fact, so I generally don't share it.

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u/Hateithere4abit Dec 21 '25

For some reason, skin pocket hits the right note for me.

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u/thetransportedman Dec 20 '25

They forget to mention said face scan allows faster processing with international travel

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u/chef_in_va Dec 20 '25

Idk what the guy above me said but I'm pretty upset about it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

If you could read you’d be even more upset!

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u/OkLetsParty Dec 27 '25

Did you change your pfp just for this comment?

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Nah, Bobby lives as my pfp everyday.

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u/OkLetsParty Dec 27 '25

As it should be, I'm proud of you.

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u/imuniqueaf Dec 20 '25

Those kids would be really offended if they could read

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u/pinupcthulhu Dec 20 '25

I've been in airports where they were very sneaky about the opt out rule

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u/Grey_Buddhist Dec 20 '25

This. Just went thru one where walking up to machine auto scanned before you even spoke to the agent. Lol

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u/Tao-of-Mars Dec 22 '25

Yeah - they have unfortunately made it hard for a reason.

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u/kermitte777 Dec 20 '25

There is now, but there wasn’t not too long ago at the airport I went to. Also, when you walk up to the TSA agent you’re expecting them to ask for your ID and instead they say look here. No explanation of what or why. There’s a lot of reasons not to get scanned, but I will let you do your own research.

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u/somethingclever76 Dec 20 '25

I went through two TSA checkpoints this week and did the face scan both times. Neither time did I see any signs about opting out of the scan.

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u/ajn63 Dec 20 '25

For now. And this doesn’t apply with all of the cameras spread out throughout streets and businesses.

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

Which is a different point entirely.

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u/chaotiw0rm Dec 27 '25

most people are fumbling with their stuff, trying to get id available without dropping everything, if they have inconsiderate companions.. they're also fumbling that persons belongings and trying to focus on what everyone is saying, especially hard if they have kiddos as well

basically majority of ppl aren't taking their time to look and read signs, especially the small print ones, and are more stressed about holding up the line and getting to their flight on time

~ i think the sign needs to be enlarged and staged throughout the line as a heads up as well ~

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u/Affectionate_Put3929 Dec 20 '25

Yeah but a lot of people still don't notice it or don't realize what it means. The post is still useful for spreading the word since clearly plenty of folks had no clue.

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u/Lachutapelua Dec 21 '25

Some one tell my airport as I have never seen one of those.

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u/le_aerius Dec 21 '25

ok I told them. They say " our bad"

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u/Independent-Bet5465 Dec 21 '25

Curious which law is this? Id love to be able to reference it.

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u/crash12345 Dec 20 '25

I have an emotional desire to opt out, but is there a tangible benefit? If I havent opted out in the past, is there any point in opting out in the future?

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u/Abzstrak Dec 20 '25

I'm the same, given the level of surveillance in, and around, an airport; I have a hard time thinking that one, single interaction makes any difference.

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u/Mjr3 Dec 21 '25

Normalizing saying no to government agents conditions them to accepting no as a response. Normalizing saying no to government agents conditions citizens to accepting no as a response. We’re at the point where the law and constitution no longer protect us, all we have left is consent. We’re running out of ways to resist, don’t give them anything for free

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u/madmadMADmad_mad Dec 22 '25

This. They’ll take away the right to opt out over time if they don’t anticipate too much trouble

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u/BrownRebel Dec 20 '25

That’s how they win your compliance without asking or giving anything in return.

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u/Abzstrak Dec 20 '25

I don't disagree, but my compliance is given by just using an airport at all. I still don't think this one thing will change anything for me personally, but you're right in pushing back where you can... While that act may not affect me directly, it may shine a light on the problems with this mass surveillance state and bring it to others attention.

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u/smcdowell26 Dec 21 '25

The quality of those cameras are vastly superior to the surveillance cameras though

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Dec 20 '25

On principle, I want to say NO to any and all privacy invasions. They aren't making the world safer. I'm pretty sure all the "evil doers" are going to not be on their radar, alter their face, or do something that inconveniences any security measure.

So it's all an abuse of everyone all the time, and it's only the "minor annoyances" to the system. The terrorists are state sponsored, or they are blowback from imperialism, or they are sponsored by our state trying to get support for whatever authoritarian dick moves they want to make.

Is the US or your government, more or less corrupt today after these new powers of control? In the USA -- I think it's far more corrupt. I think the most corrupt thing is a leveraged buyout and private equity and that is legal.

They aren't scanning and sock sniffing the owner class that board private jets to go to islands and do whatever they want to do.

And so if any government REALLY wants to avoid the hoopla of our security theater -- they could just book a charter flight.

So whether or not there is a pay off, I want to say "hell no" to another security measure because my religious observation is not to participate in being a sucker.

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u/elad34 Dec 20 '25

I opted out. It literally took the same amount of time. They just looked at my passport for a few extra seconds (domestic US flight, just don’t have my real id yet).

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u/DrGutz Dec 20 '25

You are being surveilled everywhere. This is about principals. If you allow society to openly surveil without any restrictions, you are on a slippery slope. Years ago it was just tsa pre check and clear, now you have palantir openly operating in mass transit areas creating databases which will lead to unfair bias and discrimination.

Taking an apathetic approach like the other commenters here may seem smart because its disaffected but these people are actually not using their heads.

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u/PIPBOY-2000 Dec 20 '25

Yeah this is my mentality. I know I can't realistically stop it all but any little bit I can actively deny, I will.

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u/Common_Sandwich_7721 Dec 21 '25

I appreciate this statement. I may start opting out.

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u/DrGutz Dec 20 '25

Thats the only logical mentality. The “we’re already being surveilled so who really cares” mentality is how you create a culture that will accept mass surveillance without any resistance.

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u/Truecoat Dec 20 '25

Bering surveilled and giving high res scans of your face are two different things.

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u/Wildcatb Dec 20 '25

They are using the program to train the systems. Every person who refuses to participate is one less data point.

It's small, but it's something.

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u/CryoWreck Dec 20 '25

They don't store the pictures yet. But they probably will eventually.

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u/Kelsig Dec 20 '25

they may not store the pictures but do they record any analytics or data about the photos? that's the actual dangerous thing and way cheaper to store

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u/Abzstrak Dec 20 '25

All the other cameras in and around the area are storing though, many with biometric recognition and tied to flock

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u/CryoWreck Dec 20 '25

I mean, what would they record? My flight information? Something tells me they have that already

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u/zoinkability Dec 20 '25

I am guessing they mean the numbers that make up the biometric fingerprint derived from the photo.

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u/SacredWoobie Dec 20 '25

If they wanted that would they not already have that from the photo on your RealID? Passport has biometrics, state and federal law enforcement have access to DMV records, etc.

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u/zoinkability Dec 20 '25

Sure. More data points = better more accurate data for future facial recognition, though.

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u/SacredWoobie Dec 20 '25

Right, which I think answers the parent comment’s question of does me opting out really do anything for me and the answer is essentially no it’s a Pyrrhic victory at best. You’re not stopping them from getting data that they don’t already have. At best you’re not providing additional data points for them to use for algorithm development or things like that, which isn’t going to do much at this point with how much raw data is already available to work with on stuff like this.

In my opinion cats out of the bag on this one and the only thing that would even begin to move the chains is legislation to control how this data is used which isn’t gonna happen.

People can do what they want but mass opting out of something like this isn’t really going to change anything

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u/tuckman496 Dec 20 '25

Sure let’s be defeatist and willingly give them more data for their algorithms

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u/Kelsig Dec 24 '25

I don't think you know just how important sample size is for this stuff and how hard it can be to obtain that large of sample. Unless feds want to spend the money gangstalking me and taking photos they don't have what they need.

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u/Cersad Dec 20 '25

They don't need to store your TSA photo. They have security cameras all over the terminals that they can use to track you if they so choose.

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u/Novel-Pass-8163 Dec 20 '25

Yeah if there’s one thing the government is known for, it’s their honesty 

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u/Restafarianism Dec 20 '25

You are helping train their face recognition system

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u/Wildcatb Dec 20 '25

Some are stored, for training the algorithms. We don't know how many, or which ones, so we must assume that the answer is 'all of them'.

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u/GaryMooreAustin Dec 20 '25

They already have the picture. They aren't 'collecting' your image at the checkpoint - they are comparing you to the image they ALREADY HAVE. It's the same thing as having a person compare your fact to your ID - it's just faster and more efficient. All Opting Out (at the checkpoint) does is slow down the process for everyone.

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u/Restafarianism Dec 20 '25

You are helping train their face recognition software. It doesn’t seem faster to me when I see someone have to stand still in a certain spot to have their picture taken. I tell them no thanks, show my ID and move on.

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u/GaryMooreAustin Dec 21 '25

You do you..

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u/BrownRebel Dec 20 '25

They never lie right?

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u/Sufficient-Emu24 Dec 22 '25

For me, the tangible benefit is practicing saying no to something “required” by an “authority figure.” It’s a difficult thing for me to do, but is an important skill to develop.

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u/crash12345 Dec 22 '25

This is my favorite answer. I'll start doing it for this reason.

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u/picclo Dec 20 '25

Yes, if most people accept it it will become required. If people continue to reject it may stay optional. I’m also personally not interested in training an ai model that will (a) not benefit me and (b) potentially discriminate against people without human discretion involved.

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u/SwissyVictory Dec 20 '25

Lets say you start a movement. 50% of people opt out every time.

What's stoping them from keeping going or mandating it?

When has something being unpopular ever changed the government doing something?

If you care, write to your representatives. Make it known that voters care about the issue.

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u/JC_Hysteria Dec 20 '25

People who claim they don’t want the right to privacy would be like people claiming they don’t want the right to free speech, because they have nothing important to say…

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u/Restafarianism Dec 20 '25

Typically your ID photo wasn’t taken yesterday so now they have a current photo of you in their database that is matched to your ID and in all likelihood will be shared/sold to third parties for various purposes good or bad.

In my ID photo I’m clean shaven but now I have a beard. No need to let the government train their face recognition software on how to exactly trace me through their network. Also whatever their security protocols their database will eventually get hacked so I also don’t what to be in that eventual leak.

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u/BrownRebel Dec 20 '25

You trust this administration with constantly updated scans of your face? God forbid we ask the TSA to at least read their lines when putting on security theatre.

Every scan is a violation. This matters to you if it already matters to you. Never too late to start caring for your own privacy.

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u/Gsusruls Dec 20 '25

Yeah, I'm not seeing what gets solved by this.

I literally use my face to unlock my phone. It's recorded. I cannot begin to promise where that scan is being saved to.

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u/AP_in_Indy Dec 20 '25

I think the face scans and all that which have become so prevalent are incredibly creepy. I don't trust them at all. I don't use them.

Sure, the situations where they may cause SERIOUS harm are unlikely, but it's still weird af.

I work in technology and the amount of data we collect on people is INSANE.

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u/randomnumbers24 Dec 23 '25

all or nothing fallacy

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u/Gsusruls Dec 23 '25

Explain

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u/randomnumbers24 Dec 29 '25

just because someone has some info on you doesn’t mean you don’t stand to benefit from disallowing them to have other info. it is a common manipulation technique to lie to people about how much you know about them so that they feel comfortable opening up about things that you maybe don’t know about them. besides, the more data points somebody has to see your face the more easy it is for them to identify you from any angle. As a law abiding citizen, the government stalking you everywhere you go is only good when you can guarantee nothing you will ever be illegal, and they have no incentive to put you away in jail or silence you for political speech. Given that you can never guarantee that, providing the government with as little info regarding your unchangeable, physical characteristics is in your best interest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

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u/Real_Estate_Media Dec 22 '25

Yes, it makes the potential “troublemakers” known so they can be dealt with first. Rejecting fascism is something fascism expects.

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u/Wertyhappy27 Dec 20 '25

I go to the airport like once or twice every few years, what is a single image gonna hurt so it can face match, I want to get to my flight, that is all that matters at that point

Unless you fly a ton it doesn't matter imo

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u/Pristine-Ad-469 Dec 20 '25

No not really. People that opt out due it more so due to emotion than logic. There’s nothing actually wrong with getting your face scanned but it feels like there could be something wrong with it

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u/TheHancock Dec 20 '25

It is literally sometimes faster to opt out. Lmao I have always opted out and needed up in front of the people who were in front of me in line. The face scanner is LITERALLY there just to collect your biometrics.

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u/mmnyeahnosorry Dec 20 '25

Every time I do this they always give me an attitude. Doesn’t stop me from opting out but sucks. Last guy was like ooooh nooo my day is ruined as he shook his hands and head while saying it lol

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u/puremensan Dec 22 '25

Had one out of 20 or so get pissy that I “didn’t tell him soon enough”

He really didn’t like it when I grey rocked his emotional outburst. 🤷‍♂️

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u/murphski8 Dec 20 '25

I've opted out every time, and it doesn't take any longer. They just hold up your id, compare your face to the picture, and move you along.

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u/fsas62 Dec 20 '25

Me too. I handed my ID to the lady and immediately after I said I wanted to opt out. She was bothered, as she stated she had to go back and start over. But in reality, didn't take her any longer than the people before me. I like opting out because I hope it reminds the people behind me that we don't have to accept the scan as normal and they can also opt out with zero consequences or disruption to their day.

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u/aaaaaaahhlex Dec 21 '25

Same, I’ve opted out since it started and usually the TSA agents are cool with it and sometimes even happy to work with me, like they’re “on my side” in a way. 

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u/Mjr3 Dec 21 '25

I knew this was an option going in but I was super nervous so I got all psyched up for a constitutional battle but the tsa agent couldn’t have cared less. I said “no” and he said “k” and we both went about our day.

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u/CallsignKook Dec 20 '25

I opt out because it’s my right. Exercise your rights or they will be eroded and taken away eventually

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u/Wildcatb Dec 20 '25

More to the point: the program is entirely optional. It's opt-in.

It's important that we use precise language. They're trying to pressure you into something that's supposed to be voluntary.

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u/Kalichun Dec 20 '25

Sure it’s a little step towards privacy but if you talk to the airport personnel, they’ll confirm that you will have been on camera the entire time you have been at the airport and they can still put two and two together.

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u/pautpy Dec 20 '25

Sure, but I like to think that it takes more work for someone to try to find that instead of seeing an easy green checkmark next to which airport I checked into at what time.

What is the purpose of TSA/the government having everyone do this? It's not to make civilian's lives a lot more convenient, I can guarantee that.

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u/Kalichun Dec 20 '25

I already have a beef with how invasive the security screening is. Now even on domestic flights they do random pulls of mobile phones they swab for residue but they could force you to open it.

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u/Faelwolf Dec 20 '25

They pulled my medical equipment, and made a big show of announcing what it was, and swabbing it for explosives. They used every delaying tactic they could come up with.

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u/ejohnson382 Dec 20 '25

Wait, what? TSA can force you to unlock your phone?

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u/pautpy Dec 20 '25

I heard cops can use your biometrics to force you to unlock your phone but cannot force you to tell them your passcode. I didn't know TSA had the same power.

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u/Kalichun Dec 20 '25

I’ve seen it for people entering the states / coming in from other countries. I think this making you hand over your phone to swab it is just conditioning everyone to think this is normal. I don’t like it.

Edited to add: some people I know carry a dummy phone.

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u/NomineAbAstris Dec 21 '25

GrapheneOS has a feature where you can set a special "passcode" that when entered surreptitiously wipes your phone's data and then opens the phone without announcing that any data was wiped. The agent looking at it may of course get suspicious that your phone is completely empty, but presumably if they can't find anything actually incriminating they will have to eventually release you

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u/salamander423 Dec 20 '25

If it's not that big of a deal then they won't miss that one extra picture. ☺️

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u/randomnumbers24 Dec 23 '25

wear a mask :)

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u/Kalichun Dec 23 '25

Good one! I do so in some small ways it helps

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u/krosbubble Dec 21 '25

I opt out not only on principle but also because eventually they intend for facial recognition to replace the agents that check your credentials

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u/ANameThatRhymes Dec 21 '25

I understand the argument of “aren’t we always under surveillance” but security cameras are not biometric. I personally am opting out of a getting my retinas scanned

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u/mkosmo Dec 20 '25

To be fair, the facial recognition (or other biometrics) on your phone uses data only stored on your phone.

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u/Suckitreddit420 Dec 20 '25

They also told you your phone doesn't track you.  Then years (decades?) later it turns out that is a lie.   

It seems naive to trust corporations when it comes to data collection and usage - especially in the US.

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u/sillybilly8102 Dec 20 '25

I’ve never had facial recognition on my phone

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u/SolSparrow Dec 20 '25

Being the same place you have to show your photographed-by-the-government-already ID, and/or biometric passport, more than once usually, while going through the airport covered in camera I am baffled people get so extra concerned about these. The body scanners are more frustrating.

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u/PrateTrain Dec 20 '25

The TSA doesn't even do anything but waste everyone's time

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u/Never_rarely Dec 21 '25

That is the worst take I have heard maybe ever in my life

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u/Grey_Buddhist Dec 20 '25

Not sure what is baffling? Last I checked our country let's people choose for themselves. If they opt out, their reason is no one's business but their own. FYI, the airport cameras 'all over the place' do not store the info in the same database/location, the face scanner database is not very secure, and your data is captured and released to certain gov't entities. But you do you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

Genuinely curious, do you really think the government you send in your personal info for things (such as your drivers license) somehow doesn’t already have it/share it?

Or that if they really wanted to they could easily use any of the other hundreds of cameras you already walked past?

Not trying to be combative, just really curious in what you think you’re keeping safe by opting out of this one checkpoint.

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u/kiulug Dec 20 '25

Most people who are opting out of this thing are also trying to opt out everywhere else they can. Its not that theres a specific reason I don't want this one, it's that I'm defaulting to opting out whenever given the choice.

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u/SolSparrow Dec 20 '25

Yep. It’s your “right” or let’s for this sake call it a privilege- as that’s what it is, you can certainly opt to not go! But the funny part of your post is that in order to actually go anywhere, by car, plane or ship you have to have a photo, taken by the government, stored in a database and then verified. You’ve already agreed at this point for the privilege of travel. Those face scanners are just a tiny part of the already ID verification heavy trip.

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u/smeds96 Dec 20 '25

The baffling part is your lack of intelligence. The same government you are worried about took your picture and saved it on a drive to put on your driver's license. The picture on your passport? Had to be a digital copy at some point. That means saved somewhere. TSA precheck? They did a whole background check on you. But yeah, the face verification is gonna be your biggest concern.

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u/PotentJelly13 Dec 20 '25

A ton of these comments are a special blend of paranoia and self righteousness. lol

Feels like that crazy ass conspiracy sub with all the dumb theories being thrown out as fact here.

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u/Pristine-Ad-469 Dec 20 '25

They said it’s baffling that people get so concerned over this. Your response that they have every right to opt out shows exactly how little you comprehended what he was saying.

Of course they have the right to. No one is ever going to ask them why or say they can’t. It’s just baffling why they want to. Doesn’t mean I’m going to do anything about it aside from be baffled

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

Not when you're in an airport. Not even when you're on a public street .But definitely when you pass security you have agreed to wave many of your rights to travel .

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

People seem to think we have free will to go where we please, instead of the reality of the forms/fees/identification and ultimately permission that’s required.

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u/le_aerius Dec 20 '25

So basically; People confuse privilege with rights.

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u/bialettibrewmaster Dec 20 '25

I declined at NWR and was badgered/bullied by the TSA person. I explained my rights to DECLINE to this person. She had to comply and was a bitch about it. On the other hand, I regularly decline elsewhere without incident.

If you get an agent who doesn’t know that OPT OUT is acceptable, tell them respectfully to pound dirt.

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u/jibblypuff Dec 21 '25

they knew u were referring to EWR as NWR so they bullied you

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u/Master-Potato-3787 Dec 20 '25

this right here

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u/speckledfreckle Dec 20 '25

Note- you have to verbally opt out BEFORE handing over your ID!

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u/f8Negative Dec 20 '25

Yeah...it's posted literally everywhere on signs

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u/Eriiya Dec 21 '25

I uh. wait. what?? they’re scanning faces at the airport now?? I haven’t flown in a couple years but I used to all the time, when did that become a thing???

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u/rindor1990 Dec 21 '25

2022-23 it really popped off everywhere

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u/Imaginary-Tourist219 Dec 20 '25

Totally agree with you. I think if a lot of people opt out it sends a message. I was shaking so anxious to opt out (social anxiety) but I’m so glad I did. I didn’t have any issues or pushback (my fear). It was super quick and easy.

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u/TypicalDumbRedditGuy Dec 20 '25

I’ve done this every time and every single time the tsa official makes a big fuss and hates me for it. Sorry your organization wants to fucking scan my face so I can travel somewhere

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u/fhfxbe Dec 22 '25

For real. The last time I flew I opted out, and the lady spent more time trying to passive-aggressively guilt me into doing the scan than it took to actually verify my ID.

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u/daviep Dec 21 '25

I learned this from Lakeith Stanfields character in Atlanta. The scanner always flags me, I assume because I lost a lot of weight and my stomach flap hangs low but I have no evidence. It just always flags my crotch area and I get patted down. I tried opting out once and going straight for the pat down but they informed me that I needed to tell them that before I was at the scanner, and I'd have to go back through the line if I wanted to opt out. I wasn't about waiting another half hour so I went through and for the first time in my life I didn't get flagged.

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u/Likemypups Dec 21 '25

I'm with the OP on this; I hardly ever fly but the last time I did (Love Field) I opted out of the scan.

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u/balanced_crazy Dec 20 '25

YSK: I did exactly that and the officer declared my photo didn’t match with my face and pulled in their supervisor, asked for additional IDs … the difference ? I went bald recently and passport was issued in 2019… so Do it at your own risk…

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u/xtianlaw Dec 20 '25

I mean, if you don't look like your ID, yeah, there's a risk they might notice 🤷

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u/prikaz_da Dec 21 '25

A lot of people don’t look 100% like their ID for common, normal reasons, though. People go bald, grow a beard, shave, gain weight, lose weight, etc., all of which can be done in a matter of weeks to months.

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u/balanced_crazy Dec 21 '25

You have never had/used any sort of photo id, have you??? … fifteen years of active traveling, this was first time..

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u/B_U_F_U Dec 20 '25

Listen man, I’m just trying to make my flight. I don’t want anymore trouble than there already is at the airport and I also ain’t trying to hold up a line. Scan my face, use it in the next video game, idgaf.

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u/sebedapolbud Dec 20 '25

I will agree to it but only if they put me in a video game

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u/healthcrusade Dec 20 '25

I opted out of the body scanner because they let my child through without body scanning so I asked if I could go through too. And then I had to endure an additional 8 minute wait and a very thorough (cracks crevasses and bulges all contacted) pat down. Zero stars - would not recommend.

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u/UnicornTwinkle Dec 24 '25

A vague and weak gesture to a machine so omnipresent and oppressive. Bailing water out of a sinking cruise liner.

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u/Realistic-Weird-4259 Dec 20 '25

I've had more than a few fellow passengers look at me surprised when I tell the agent I do not want my face scanned. The government already has a huge trove of information about me, including my face and likeness for my drivers license and passport. They don't need more.

That said, I'm awaiting the day it becomes mandatory.

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u/Leading-Ad3360 Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

SAME. That day is 100% coming and people are literally sleepwalking into an authoritarian state. Refuse the normalization of the Totalitarian creep now while you still have the liberty to do so. 

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u/andytagonist Dec 20 '25

YSK they already have your face scan.

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u/Stoppushingtheapp Dec 20 '25

Then why do they need it again?

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u/turkeycurry Dec 20 '25

The lady in front of me at TSA pre asked for this and the guy said he didn’t have the capability for that (maybe he needed another person?) and she would need to go down to the regular security line (which was long) and she did. I would budget extra time if this is your choice.

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u/changeneverhappens Dec 31 '25

I don't think it's optional at precheck or clear simply because you're opting to use those services. 

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u/EnjoyMikeHawk1 Dec 20 '25

I remember the first time i flew back into the states. I get to customs, get my pic taken and the guy was like welcome back (my name) without even seeing my passport. That shocked the hell out of me how effective those cameras or software is

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u/PrivateUseBadger Dec 22 '25

The argument that they’ve already got pictures of you is idiotic. It’s akin to saying, “Someone has already done something to you that you don’t like, so you may as well let them continue to.”

That and it’s their choice. Let them opt out, ya bunch of troglodytes. I let them scan me. I don’t care. Others don’t want to be scanned. I still don’t care. Neither should you.

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u/xCamm Dec 20 '25

Do people just not read any signage anymore? It’s clearly stated in all airports at the security checkpoint lol…

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u/pkinetics Dec 20 '25

Mostly cause of the herd / lemmings / conformity mentality.

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u/UnibikersDateMate Dec 21 '25

Okay, but… I just want to be real here: the government already has your face. And Real IDs are required in most (all?) states now. So, just being realistic, what exactly is people’s concern?

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

Abolish the TSA

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u/TheHancock Dec 20 '25

Security theater!

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u/vipck83 Dec 20 '25

Odd they didn’t know when every airport I have been to has big signs everywhere saying you can opt out.

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u/OUTKAST5150 Dec 20 '25

Do you get patted down or worse if you object?

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u/Suckitreddit420 Dec 20 '25

No.  They look at your ID and your face instead of having a camera scan you and compare it to their database.  It is literally that simple and takes no extra time.

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u/JinkiesGang Dec 20 '25

It never seems to work on me and I end up having to show my id anyway. Doesn’t seem to hold up the line more than a few seconds because I have my id out already knowing this is going to happen.

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u/tinkermosista Dec 21 '25

If 30% opt out, the government publicizes it as “70% of the population approve of the practice “, then they push it a little farther.

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u/Mountain-Resource656 Dec 21 '25

You can also opt out of ATM fees in some countries at least, I hear. They don’t tell you, they just say “this atm will charge this fee; do you accept?” or some such, but if you click no they still process your order and give you the money

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u/entangled_knowledge Dec 23 '25

Not if you’re not a citizen

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u/ListenHereLindah Dec 27 '25

You can opt out. But the security cameras already scanned your face and put it in the data base

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u/billwood09 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

🤦‍♂️ “oh no they took my picture to verify I’m the same person”

Yes, Trump is legitimately evil, but the TSA isn’t going to come kill you in your sleep because they temporarily stored a photo of you

Edit: seriously y’all, is there a subreddit for uninformed noncompliance? Because that’s what most of these comments support. This is as dumb as people who claim they’re “sovereign citizens”

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u/SouthpawAce14 Dec 20 '25

I do this every time but about half the time TSA is sassy about it

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u/KrisClem77 Dec 20 '25

Wait. We should know EXACTLY what is posted right on the camera? Good thing we have you around!

All seriousness though, there are so many cameras around an airport to begin with. I’m not opting out and giving the TSA agent a reason to be weary of me. I’m not all about being brought into a private room and having my anal cavity searched.

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u/Dneail22 Dec 21 '25

Yeah if you’re in the US maybe

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u/Kharon_the_ferryman Dec 21 '25

Yea I just stepped to the side, ignored the guy asking me to stand in front of the camera, and after two asks he fucked off and proceeded me through.

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u/sinnister_bacon Dec 20 '25

I declined one time and the agent just looked at me and sent me through. Afterwards I suspected they had scanned my face multiple times anyways since walking thru the front door. So I figure why bother declining anymore.

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u/jess_the_werefox Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

Ysk if you’re going to do this while coming back through Customs, you WILL get your bags searched

edit: this was mostly a joke

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u/_xXAnonyMooseXx_ Dec 20 '25

Never happened to me

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u/BrownRebel Dec 20 '25

Nope, just wrong

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u/j_knolly Dec 20 '25

Is there a way to opt in

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u/007bubba007 Dec 20 '25

Sure, but they already took 1,000 photos of you by the time you get to TSA. What’s the point?

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u/DrGutz Dec 20 '25

Be prepared because they will bully you and harass you though. In major metropolitan areas they’ll let it slide but if you’re in a conservative state they will make you stand to the side and make a problem out of it.

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u/atomicavox Dec 20 '25

I still opt out of being scanned by the scam machines put in by W bush when all this patriot act/homeland security bs started. The machines are made by the company that the head of DHS at the time had deep financial ties with.

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u/jsnryn Dec 20 '25

You can opt out of the one very obvious point, put if you think that’s the only place they get a good shot of your face you’re delusional.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

Lol, you'll have zero impact. If you don't want your image in the public, don't go in public. If you do, whether you do this or not they'll have your image. Your resistance it's futile.

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u/ComplaintNo6835 Dec 20 '25

They don't keep the photo. They're checking it aginst the other photos they have of you in their system. They already have a profile on everyone. The invasive part already happened.

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u/egcom Dec 21 '25

That isn’t the point tbf

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u/JLMaverick Dec 21 '25

There’s a lot of cameras scanning your face all the time, just saying.