Bas Rutten says some nice things about Wing Chun.

Pretty much that. Looking for someone to chi sau with in the capital region of New York. Close to Albany or south of it.

I'm aware of Cichon's, and I'm interested in pursuing other training opportunities.

Thanks!

Hi everyone!

I'm interested in learning more about Wing Tsun principles in general, regardless of the organization or lineage.

Please share which Wing Tsun principles have been the most useful for you during sparring or in a real self-defense situation.

I'm not asking about techniques or lineage comparisons, but about principles such as centerline control, simultaneous attack and defense, economy of motion, forward intent, sticking, or any others that made a real difference for you.

Feel free to share your tactical ideas as well—how you apply those principles, how they influence your decision-making, or any concepts that have consistently worked for you.

I'd really appreciate hearing about your experiences and learning from the community.

Also, please excuse my English. I don't speak English, so I used an AI translator to write this post.

It can be videos, books, articles, etc. What are your favorite resources for learning Wing Chun history or martial arts history? I thoroughly enjoy Ben Judkins' work, but am trying to expand my palate. Especially interested in primary sources and works with citations.

Once the guys get familiar with the structure the roll and are starting to get familiar with the three basic Lap Sau Attacks and Counters, we start to look at what can happen during the "mess" of the "standard" actions.

I say "mess" because while the standard attacks do between them vary, they remain fixed actions. What does happen though, is that as they get train, one person will naturally get better at doing their part, which naturally changes each engagement and each time is going to be different with different opportunities revealing themselves.

i.e things are no longer "guaranteed" to happen in the same way the basic actions are.

The two things I like to introduce are:

- if you can beat/cheat the timing, you can strike

- the basic Gor Sau idea of when the centre is crossed, you occupy.

In this case, I first take advantage of the set counter strike, to clear myself to allow myself to strike at the same time. This is a good chance for them to understand multiple ideas such as freeing the occupied hand, two actions one sound, acting on the cover not the strike etc.

The second instance is when go a step further and make them recover across the centre to allow a shorter strike, from a more covered position. What I like about these two in particular is that they strike at different "beats", and allows the student to get a feel for those half beat moments.

The trick in both instances is to not force it to happen but to recognise when it happens and is available.

And this is where our version will start to converge with other formats because once we're taking angles, we also start to add footwork, which is where this starts to overlap into Gor Sau type movements.

Just sharing

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I'm interested in hearing people's opinions on replacing traditional wooden Wing Chun dummy arms and legs with steel ones.

I know many people prefer wood because it's traditional, but with the quality of some timber these days, I wonder if there's a place for a more durable option.

My thinking is that steel arms and legs would be a one-time purchase. They won't split, crack, warp or need replacing like some wooden ones can. Yes, they cost more initially, but they could last a lifetime.

Would you consider buying steel arms and a steel leg for your dummy? Why or why not? I'd be interested to hear both the pros and the cons.

Hello warriors,

I would like to go to HK in few months.
Does anyone knows good wing chun schools and teachers to visit and train for a couple of weeks for people from Europe?

Maybe some not so much advertised but solid ones.

Would love to connect to anyone who is willing to share this awesome martial art.

If at home, use a Training Jong like the picture. If no Training Partner available.

The picture is a 'Cross' between a Heavy Bag a Jong and Wooden Dummy, but it's all Padded and Soft and Flexible.

This Training Jong allows all of Wing Chun to be practiced at home, solo, without a Training Partner.

The Jong must be built, like a Wooden Dummy, it can't be bought, at this time. The Arms and Legs are all double, so both sides, same as a person and adjustable, in and out and removable.

This Jong does more than a Wooden Dummy, is very good and very useful.

The Training Aid works on the Principle of a Bull Worker or Bowflex Gym unit too and develops the muscles for Wing Chun.[![Picture of Soft flexible Training Jong][1]][1]

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We're still working on this in the class with this group so I cut this out from an off-mat session that shows where apply the Lap Sau to facilitate the three basic strikes.

It essentially boils down to three effects on the "defender" :

- no effect on their structure

- drop their shoulder

- rotate their spine

What this means is that the attacker gets to practice three different Lap Sau and the defender gets to learn to recognise and respond to those three effects on their structure.

The actual striking then is actually a secondary element and almost just there to facilitate the defender learning how to deal with break of structure and to feel where likely attacks can come from. If you over-do the striking, you are being a bad partner and not letting them train their side if the exercise.

In other words, the point of the drill isn't really to just to learn how to attack. If this isn't pointed out to you, it'd be very easy to think that it is about the attack when the reality is that there are two sides of the exercise, both of equal importance and together they allow you to develop ​the skill to keep the engagement going under constant pressure. I describe it being a dialogue and your goal, to begin with, is to be able to hold long conversations.

This isn't the only way or the right way to use the exercise; it is just our way.

Hello,

I wanted to know if there are any good schools for training in wing chun in Kitchener/Waterloo area?

Hey everyone,

I posted here before about the Wing Chun school I am currently attending and wanted to share my experience training at Shun Mo Scientific Ving Tsun USA in Quincy, MA, under the Wong Shun Leung (WSL) lineage.

Before coming here, I had a background in Hung Kuen (Alex Woo Martial Arts, which is in Las Vegas now) and Western boxing. Before coming to Shun Mo, I didn't have any experience with the Wing Chun world except for the popular Ip Man movies I had seen over the years. After taking my first class, I wanted to dive into Ving Tsun to understand the WSL philosophy. My Sifu learned directly under Chan Kim Man (a first-generation student of WSL). Having instruction this authentic right near Boston is rare.

When I started a year ago, I was completely out of shape, weighing 280 lbs. Around the same time, I started Mounjaro to battle diabetes. Whenever I had moments where I just wanted to binge eat, I redirected that energy into practicing the Siu Nim Tau form and drilling the techniques Sifu taught me.

Sifu’s training is serious—he focuses strictly on realistic self-defense for the outside world. We do live sparring, which connects everything. Sparring can be intimidating, but it’s the only way to actually understand how the techniques and "sticky hands" apply against real resistance. Practicing the forms has also helped me lock down the mechanics and the Cantonese lingo for each movement.

Fast forward to today: I’m down to around 200–205 lbs. I just started learning the Chum Kiu form, and I'm taking my training seriously.

The community at this gym has been great from day one. I think a lot of people can relate to finding a martial art at a low point in life. Finding the right art and the right coach completely rewired my mindset and soul. Huge respect to my Sifu and the training partners at Shun Mo for pushing me to get better every day. The journey continues. I hope you guys can find your Wing Chun home and keep practicing!

Picture: A picture of Sifu and I in April 2025.

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Hello dear martial artists I have great respect to you all!

THE QUESTION: Is there any good YouTube videos you’d recommend for a beginner to start practising Wing Chun? For example different punches and kicks

About me: I’m 27 yo male, always interested in martial arts but due to my generalized anxiety disorder and depression I havent been able to start learning any martial art style.

Training background: I’ve been exercising 2-12 hours every day for over 5 years both weightlifting + cardio combined

Training is my passion and I’d love to learn as many different martial arts styles as possible and master them all eventually

Good regards, Hopeful guy

I can train close to me in Silver Lake, Echo Park, Elysian Park, and Elysian Valley. ( Los Angeles, CA )

Any lineage and levels.
Welcome Everyone.

DM if your local and would like to train.
Check my IG for some of my content.

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I'm a specialist of pre ip man internal wing chun from a few lineages of Yuen Chai Wan disciples. Currently live in Poland not far from Czech and Slovakia and have no one to train with. Believe in power of reddit 🙏🏻

Was cutting some longer footage of one of our mini-seminars and thought this intro talk might be interesting for those looking in from the outside, at the training methods of Wing Chun. These seminar classes we run gives newer students a chance to look at what is to come but also gives other members of the school that don't do the Wing Chun, to get an idea of how we train and where they can get some exposure to where skills overlap.

There's nothing here's that really secret or mystical but if you haven't actually been taught this, you might not be exposed to some of the details.
All too often, when you see some random person posting questionable things on social media, a giveaway that they're making things up, especially on the dummy, is that the movements they perform, don't seem to portray any consistency of context.

What usually happens is that the make up sequences as if the arms are literally representing left arm and right arm sticking straight out of the dummy body.

The other giveaway is that whatever sequence they've made up doesn't deal with any of the actual skills the dummy is giving you the opportunity to practice. Instead, it's just random pointless "combos".

If you even only occasionally look at Facebook, you'll probably have an idea of who/what I'm talking about.

Hi Reddit world!

I’m not on Reddit as much as I used to be, so bear with me lol.

So my wing chun journey started in 2016. I went to a local training school for three months, and fell in love with it. However, I was going through my own stuff and wasn’t a grounded adult as I am today. But I did do some of the very basic training I received at home over the years. Probably wasn’t very accurate, but I enjoyed it.

Now fast forward to May 2026, and I’ve signed up for online courses with Sifu Colin Ward on wingchunonline.

I must say, I’m very impressed with his program, and I genuinely enjoy watching the guy. His instruction is practical and easy to follow for me.

Here’s question number 1: Is his training program generally recommended?

Next, I’m not able to train with a partner, and I don’t have the time or money to go to a in-person school anymore. With that being said, question 2: what are some tips you’d give someone who’s training at home and doesn’t have a partner?

Now this is looking a bit more down the line, but I see in the training that eventually I’ll be trained using the wooden dummy. As a person who trains at home and without a partner, this tool seems very valuable. Question 3: Is it worth buying, if yes where should I buy it, and is there a somewhat good quality and affordable version anywhere?

I’m really glad I found out about this sub Reddit because I often have questions and now I have a place to ask. Wingchunonline has a forum but I can’t really access it from my phone, and I haven’t used it on my laptop yet lol. So thank you to anyone willing to help me, and I hope you all enjoy and appreciate the training as much as I do!!!

Ps: bonus question: any tips on physical conditioning exercises I could use to supplement my training? I presently do planks, bar hangs, horse stances, body weight exercises, and light weight training.

He thinks he knows it all after a year and a half of training with a Sifu who learned in HK, but also thinks that anything taught in HK is hollow. One of the worst cases of being confidently incorrect I have ever seen. Everything he says is a projection of his own shortcomings.

The bag is filled with plastic beads and is relatively hard.

Lineage: Wong Shun Leung -> James Cheung -> Me

Chunfest will be on 10-12 July as a reminder ! Great cross lineage event that in its 12 year now (if I’ve counted right). Held in Coventry to try to be middle of the country! Camp the whole weekend or come for a day and train for the whole day ! No set schedule to the days it’s on.

Feel free to reach out if any questions

I read through some of the Wing Chun threads about Wing Chun and Wing Chun and Boxing and thought I would like to comment and Pose the above question.

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In my experience, generally good Boxers beat good Wing Chunners. But if the Wing Chunner Trains hard and is fit and experienced he may do well.

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Many think that Wing Chun Undermines and Dilutes and Retards or weakens Boxing, if you do both. I have done both, enjoyed both very much and I often wonder about that myself and wonder if they help each other too.

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I would be interested in peoples opinions...

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I 'think' Wing Chun and Boxing can compliment each other and be integrated into a seamless combination style.

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Wing Chun is also called Chinese Boxing.

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So Boxing and Chinese Boxing compliment each other and help each other, maybe.

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I've been doing both Boxing and Wing Chun for decades.

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For Example:

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Ive done:

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4/1/2 years of good genuine Wing Chun.

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Chu Shong Tin Lineage

William Cheung Lineage

Yip Chun Lineage

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Boxing 6 years. At two Rings Good genuine Boxing.

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I like both and find both M.Arts work well together and reinforce each style. But it's also a bit hard to tell.

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For Example:

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The Heavy Training of Boxing helps Wing Chun. The Heavy Bag, Floor to Ceiling Ball (Bag), Speed Ball (Bag) all help Wing Chun. The Skipping Jump Rope as well.

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The Slips, Ducks, Roll Ducks and Bobs of Boxing add hugely to Wing Chun defences.

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The Fighting Stances are very similar and Wing Chun helps Boxing because W.C is ambidextrous. I.E, what you do on the Left Side Stance you do on the Right Side.

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Therefore W.C helps with switching from Orthodox to South Paw, instantly, with Boxing.

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Wing Chun has a Concept Known as Simultaneous Defence and Attack, which is frequently used in Wing Chun delivery. It's in many Technique - Drills. Boxing has some of that also but less in general. Defence and Attack is a 2 step process in the main in Boxing. It is a 1 step process in Wing Chun and is Signature Wing Chun. This aspect is partly why I wonder if Wing Chun helps Boxing and reinforces Boxing.

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The foot work of each style can add to the other and the guards and stances of each adds to the other style, in the main.

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So yes I believe both Boxing and Wing Chun can compliment each other as mentioned. But I am mindful of Wing Chun Retarding Boxing or Slowing it down.

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I would be interested in people's opinions of this.

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Regards,

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Me playing the Mok Jong 11 years ago; curious how 27 years ago would have look?

https://youtu.be/MgS8bMcLIbc?si=lWTTk9NH7WDBIvHG