r/Tangled • u/PinkHairedCoder • 19h ago
Tangled Multiverse [Debate] Has Eugene as Flynn Rider ever directly harmed or threatened anyone?
Seen this question be given mixed answers before.
Common Consensus: No, he was a non-violent thief who didn't threaten or harm his marks.
Other arguments: He did look dangerous when yelling at the Stabbingtons who looked afraid.
Notes: The debate was for 'as Flynn Rider,' so the prison scene might not count as he was Eugene by then and more protective -- It says 'directly,' so don't count indirect such as leaving people behind to be hanged (Stabbingtons) or downflow from thieving.
Movie
- He is shown to avoid touching Rapunzel unless it was to help her run. When faced with her own threats, he only grabbed the pan.
- Resorted to scaring her through the thugs in a legal establishment, rather than intimidate or touch her himself.
- Does knock out the guards, but only when cornered amd left with a weapon, outside the stage-performance-type-swashbuckling, does not seem to have natural ability with a sword fight.
- Intimidates Stabbingtons but at this point he's Eugene and protective.
- Doesn't carry a weapon.
Series
- Series backstory tries to paint him a highway man in carriage robberies. BUT note, even in this scene he's not carrying a weapon nor does he threaten Arianna, just opens and steals.
- Starts wielding a sword in s1 ending, possibly after guard training.
- Worked for a violent crime lord, but nothing ever says he was equally violent.
- Punches things.
Rootbound
- Doesn't fight with a weapon but does pull a knife from somewhere (book doesn't say) he was carrying to cut ropes. Implies he carries one.
So, debate. Did Flynn Rider ever directly use intimidation, threats, or violence on his marks?