I'm researching this topic and I have come across the pattern "ang (noun) + na + (relative clause)" where the linker na can become -ng if the noun ends on a vowel, but I haven't been able to find a resource where the whole thing is explained in detail (not what the na-linker is, but how to use relative clauses in tagalog).

I also read somewhere that usually it is only the ang-phrase that can take a relative clause, so it tends to affect the focus, but then how would you say "the dog that I saw ate the meat that I cooked" or something similar? Can you only do one clause at a time?

When I look up the na-linker, I get explanation on adjectives and ligatures. When I look up relative clauses, I don't get any too specific or I get research papers that I can barely parse through.

How does one qualify for this, although I have the same dialect with my grandma from northern katagalugan there seems to be something special with omitting vowels that I can’t consistently do like her or is this just how old people talk? Although this is not often but I find it amazing whenever I hear it, it sounds so profound as if there is an emphasis.

Kadiliman = Karimlan
Datingan = Datngan/Datnan
Damitan = Damtan
Kilalanin = Kilanlin
Asinan = Asnan
Taniman = Tamnan
Diligan = Dilgan
Dinigin = Dinggin
Salinan = Salnan
Silidan = Sidlan
Gisingin = Gisngin/Gisnin
Hangarin = Hangrin
Halikan = Halkan
Yakapin = Yakpin
Balikan = Balkan
Lamanan = Lamnan
Damahin = Damhin
Masidan = Masdan

Although there are some words that are naturally ommitted in my case like and I think same with how standard tagalog would

Pagbukasan = Pagbuksan
Lagayan = Lagyan
Bigayan = Bigyan
Takipan = Takpan
Sakayan = Sakyan
Tinginan = Tingnan
Labahan = Labhan
Sakitan = Saktan

And what mistakes?

Hi I’m from Bulacan and I know we have different way of speaking, but I wonder why I have this weird quirk maybe I have some sort of idiolect or something? It is more comfortable to speak like this even if it is longer than shortening it and speaking it without these breaks which is common for the standard one that everybody uses.

Diya-an (Dyan)
Ganiya-an (Ganyan)
Gano-on (Ganon)
Gayo-on (Gayon)
Ya-an (Yan)
Yo-on/Ya-on (Yon)
Hayo-on (Hayon/Ayon)
Do-on (Don)
No-on (Non)
Nahan-dine/dito (Nandine/Nandito)
Nahan-dirine/Nahan-dirito (Nandirine/Nandirito)
Nahan-do-on (Nandon)
Nahan-diya-an (Nandyan)
Nahan-diriya-an (Nandiriyan)
Nahan-doro-on (Nandoron)
May-ro-on/Me-ro-on (Meron)

I am trying to learn tagalog but as a 35 year old with a lot going on, it's been slow going. I wanted to send my mom a card in tagalog and had the help google translate and just wanted make sure that the grammar is okay and everything makes sense?

Mahal kong Nanay,

Kumusta po kayo? Sana ay nasa mabuti kayong kalagayan. Gusto ko lang pong mangumusta sa inyong dalawa—pati na rin kay Charlie. Hindi na kami makapaghintay na makita kayo sa Thanksgiving! Mag-ingat po kayong dalawa hanggang sa muli nating pagkikita. Mahal na mahal ko po kayo!

Nagmamahal, Felix.

Any help or feedback would be great!

it’s easy to understand the difference when speaking normally, but in formal tagalog, how are the two cases meant to be used? they are both in the subjective case, so it’s hard to tell

How come in Tagalog, people add an S unnecessarily?
E.g., molds (“may molds sa bahay” instead of “may mold”), colds (“may colds sya” instead of “may cold sya”) apps (“check mo yung apps”)

Then there are those words where you REMOVE an S instead, even on possessives
E.g., condolence, Watson, Rustan, Starbuck

I also hear people remove an S sound even if the word itself has no S
E.g., NLEK (instead of NLEX)

Is there a general rule to this?

took this from someone else's comment: "Writestreak is a bunch of subreddits where you can practice your writing skills by submitting a text every day and having native speakers correct it."

for example: r/WriteStreakRu, r/WriteStreakGerman, r/WriteStreakES

meron po ba kayong alam na ganito for tagalog? i recently moved from the philippines and i don't want my tagalog to get rusty. i'd love to be able to pass it on to my future children, esp since there isn't much of a filipino community where i live now 🥲

I was wondering if there were any phrases or idoms that were equivalent to some English phrases?

Things like: "You made your bed, now lie in it."

(to accept unpleasant consequences)

or

"You break it, you buy it."

(similar to above)

or

"Proof of the pudding is in the eating."

(the only way to test something is to use it as intended)

I kind of realize my idiom knowledge is very limited. haha

I just read somewhere in Wikipedia that there is a certain Tagalog dialect that substitutes "d" with letter "r". For example:

bundok: bunrok

dadamayan: raramayan

dagat: ragat

dingding: ringring

dugo: rugo

Do you know what Tagalog dialect this is? Thanks to whoever will respond to my Inquiry.

Would be happy to learn about how we'd ask for certainty back then.

I am a ceramicist wanting to start my own pottery brand that represents both my Filipino heritage and also Japan where I first learned pottery!

I thought Mayumi was a good candidate but my Filipino mother who speaks native Tagalog says she’s unfamiliar with the word. Does anyone know of any other words that may fit this criteria? Thank you!

Magandang araw po sa lahat! Once again, I am Andrei Clyde Chua Arellano, a BS Mathematics fresh graduate (yay!).

I am honored to present to all of you my full thesis titled "Isang Computational na Pagsusuri sa mga Heuristic nina Cohen at Lenstra para sa mga Quadratic Number Field"!

I would also like to mention that I shall be interviewed on the Filipino radio station DZMM on the 13th of July (tomorrow!), 11:40 AM Philippine Standard Time on the program Nagseserbisyo, Niña Corpuz. The station also simulcasts on their television and YouTube channels. I hope you'll all tune in!

Of course, I am very open to any questions or critiques of this work! I simply ask that you maintain a polite and professional tone.

Maraming maraming salamat po!

Let's look at the word "patlang." The stress of this word falls on the last syllable: lang. Meanwhile, it's second to the last syllable, pat, is of the form CVC (consonant-vowel-consonant).

All precolonial Tagalog words I can think of that have a CVC syllable as its second to last always have the stress on the final syllable: dagli, lugmok, santol, patpat, tampok, etc.

The only exception I can think of is "peklat," which has the stress on the second to last syllable. But "peklat" is a variant of "pilat," and while "pilat" is Austronesian, I am not sure if "peklat" is a precolonial variant or it if emerged during or after the colonial period.

Meanwhile, colonial loanwords (and slang) allow for CVC second to last syllables to be stressed: santo, haywey, mismo, omsim, etc.

I'm curious if this is one of the constraints of precolonial Tagalog phonology!

I wrote a poem for school a year ago. I never got a critique from my teacher. I remembered being really proud of that piece so I am posting it to escape the inevitable oblivion that is my unorganized gdocs. Critiques are welcome as well. I think the prompt was it needed "pag-uulit" within the poem.

Title: Bantay

"Naamoy ko ang tuyong niluluto

ng amo ko, katambal ng tsamporado

Lumapit ako sa kanya at humikbi

Isang masarap na isda ang sinukli

Mabilis, maaga’t magiliw maghanda

para sa pasok ng kanyang tanging paslit

Ngunit naudlot nang naipabalita

na walang pasok, may bagyong papalapit

Ako ay natuwa at nagalak

Sangang dikit, ako at ang paslit

Malakas man ang ulang tila may galit

Wala ‘yan sa aming tahol at halakhak

Tumataas ang tubig baha, wala’yan

Lumagpas na sa tarangkahan, wala ‘yan

Tinaas na ang mga gamit, wala ‘yan

Sa piling ng amo at paslit, wala ‘yan

Hindi humupa ang hagupit, lumala

Isang kisapmata ay hanggang baywang na

Buhat ang paslit at ibang mga gamit,

sa bubong kami, makulimlim ang langit

Ang takot at kaba sa mukha ay bakas

Bakas rin sa aking mga tahol at hikbi

Hikbi ng paslit, ang tugon ay oyayi

Oyayi ng ina sa bagyong marahas

Nang bumaba ang tubig, kami’y lumikas

Sumiksik sa kolong-kolong ang mag-ina

Habang ako’y bumuntot, kumakaripas

Napagod, tumigil, malayo na sila

Dito lang ako, baka bumalik sila

Dito lang ako, kahit bahag ang buntot

Dito lang ako, kahit buto’t balat na

Dito lang ako, kung saan makasuot

Ilang araw at gabi na ang nagdaan

Nakahiga ako sa may putikan

Nauuhaw at kumukulo ang tiyan

Nasaan na? Nasaan na sila? Saan?

Bukang liwayway na, pero pinikit ko

Ang aking mga mata upang sila’y makita

sa panaginip, kahit hindi totoo

Dahil ako’y hindi na magtatagal pa"

Thank you!

Hi, guys. Gumagawa ako ng article tungkol sa tadbalik. Nakalikom ako (sa tulong din ni u/ysrael214) ng mga salitang tadbalik (na attested) mula noong 17th century hanggang sa kasalukuyan. Sana may maibigay pa kayo (para may mailagay rin sa Wiktionary). Narito ang ilan:

1600s

cotaba - tabaco (tabako)

1700s

gonco - cogon (kugon)

sapu - pusa

soa - aso

bigtu - tubig

ſa ang drẽgpa cotaba - ang sa padreng tabako

onng̃ay lisna - ngay-on nalis

Drope - Pedro

Golin - Lingo (Linggo)

1800s

anlolapaca - capalaloan (kapalaluan)

tanmoraca - caramotan (karamutan)

ganbolica - calibogan (kalibugan)

tanligaca - cagalitan (kagalitan)

anmoyaca - cayamoan (kayamuan)

anlihinagpaca - capanaghilian (kapanaghilian)

ranmataca - catamaran (katamaran)

bitca - baquit (bakit)

dihin - hindi

1900s

rasikmu - sikmura

arbor - (Spanish) robar

yosi - si(garil)yo

jaguar - guwardiya

repa - pare

dabarkads - barkada

jeproks - projects

etc.

2000s

omsim - mismo

petmalu - malupit

werpa - (English) power

lodi - (English) idol

efas - (English) safe

orb - (English) bro

etc.

The Tahanan app came across my feed and it looks promising but has a subscription attached.

Does anyone have any experience using this app? How useful was it?

Like the title says, I am going to the Philippines in about 45 days for a month. I know a few words in Tagalog but struggle to form sentences when speaking. What can I do as a crash course to really focus on my speaking skills in the short amount of time I have?

Wondering what the proper way to conjugate kawawa in order to describe something would be. Came across these blind box toys called Kawawa Turtles and was wondering if that was the correct grammar, or if it should have the “ng” at the end.

Magandang hapon, nais kong malaman bakit may sariling tono at accent ang mga taga-Batangas (specifically, Batangas City). May mga nag-migrate po ba sa Batangas kaya naging ganon ang accent or sadyang simula pa sa una ay ganon na po? Maraming salamat po💞

Ako lang ba ang nahahabaan at tila punuan na ang pangugusap kapag kakailanganing gawing ramihan ang isang salita lalu na't kung ika'y sumusulat ng isang aklat? Pati sa pangalanan ng mga gusaling sarilinan o pampamayanan? May naiisip akong paraan 'balit 'di ko alam kung gagana 'to:

Table of Contents - Talahanayan ng Kalamanan (sa halip na 'Talahayanan ng mga Nilalaman')

Kaya lang babalik pa rin tayo sa pangangailangan ng 'mga' gaya ng:

inequality - di-kapantayanan (sa halip na 'hindi pagkakapantay-pantay')

inequalities - "mga" di-kapantayanan (sa halip na 'mga hindi pagkakapantay-pantay')

Iba pang (mga) halimbawa:

chair - upuan ; chairs - upuanan?

finger - daliri ; fingers - dalirian?

relative - kamag-anak ; relatives - kamag-anakan?

atbp...

Sa ibang bansa gaya ng Indonesia o Malaysia, ang paraan nila ay ulitin ang salita. Gumagana rin naman ito sa Tagalog gaya ng: thing=bagay, things=bagay-bagay - ngunit hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon gaya ng: hand=kamay, hands=kamay-kamay? (at ang paraan na ito ay mahaba rin lang).

Anu kaya kung lagyan ng 'M' sa unahan?

chairs - M'puan ; bigkas: mga-puan (o mmm-puan?)

fingers - M'liri ; bigkas: mga-liri (o mmm-liri?)

Ano kaya?

*it’s meant to be help not held

Hi all, I’m getting married to my beautiful Filipina fiancée next month, and currently writing my speech. I wanted to have a short few sentences in Tagalog, and would appreciate any help on sweet sayings that I could use? I’d appreciate tagalog and English translation if possible! I try my best but preferably something easy for an English man to pronounce too!

Currently I’m on

Sinta ko, ikaw ang buhay ko. Salamat sa pagma-mahal mo. Mahal kita nang buong puso, walang hanggan.

Which I believe is: My darling, you are my life. Thank you for your love. I love you with all my heart, without end.

Id love any suggestions you have. I’ll probably replace the middle thank you, as I use it earlier as a thank you to future MIL and don’t want to repeat

Thanks all in advance

Essentially, is there a glottal stop at the end of "talo" (as in bagay para sa isa't isa)? On KWF, there isn't, but on some other sources, there is.