I last played stepmania maybe 6+? years ago and just downloaded ITGmania recently. Does anybody know how the old "marvelous" timing window compares to the "fantastic" window in ITGmania? I used to use the default judge difficulty of 4 in both ITGmania and stepmania and I'm having some timing difficulty. Either my timing has gotten a lot worse or the "fantastic" window on judge(4) is tighter than the "marvelous" window on judge(4).

Unfortunately I don't remember exactly what version of stepmania I used to play on and apologize if it depends highly on the version. I wouldnt' say the 'fantastic' window is significantly tighter than the old 'marvelous' window that I remember, but I feel like the 'great' window is quite a bit tighter in ITGmania than the 'great' in stepmania I remember. I may have just gotten a lot worse though.

Hi all, I'm getting back into DDR and I'm finalizing my at home setup. I have one final problem I absolutely cannot solve. I'm trying to control the game with 4 button menu controllers I bought. 3 buttons for standard DDR extreme style menuing and one back button. When set to 3 button and arcade style options navigation everything works except the player options menu for song options. The player menu is not advanced by the start button, only "MenuDown" which does not exist. The arcade style setting description specifically says "start button moves cursor to next option line" but it just doesn't.

hi, so i like this song i played on pump prex 3 and im now playing on stepmania.

do you any of you people know where i can get this song playable for stepmania? english is not my mother languaje btw

https://youtu.be/I4xhER2LtC4?si=qbHji4s-jU_uJeep

its called "mosquito-eres para mi"

haha I have to recreate this whole post after spending two hours gathering links and stuff because I accidentally pressed the ctrl key while typing and hit R and there was no dialog to confirm the reload like there was for when I almost accidentally closed the tab and I knew I should have been in markdown mode and I should have ctrl-A ctrl-Ced at some point and I could have saved a draft and I should have a form autosave extension installed aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Back in 2006, I ordered an official StepMania CD, and now I'm trying to remember which songs it had on it, exactly.

As pointed out in this thread by /u/Zowayix from 8 years ago, the disc had 39 songs, was said to include everything the official site's Songs page had up to a certain date, and the earliest Wayback archive of that page has 39 individual songs up for download. "So far so good."

Except many of the songs that were actually included were from the PlagueMix packs linked above the individual downloads, and many of the individuals there weren't included.

To jog my memory, I've been looking at many old videos of songs I'm certain were on the disc, and looking for what other songs people who had them also had. The songs I'm 100% certain were on the disc are, with videos:

Captain Jack - "1-2-3" (Plaguefox)
Y&Co. - "Attitude"
Porto Seguro - "Bailar de a Dos (The Re-Mix)"
Mindless Self Indulgence - "Bitches" (Plaguefox) [MSI]
μ-Ziq - "Bitches (μ-Ziq Remix)" (Plaguefox) [Mindless Self Indulgence]
Dj. Quetzal - "Csikospost (Double Drum Mix)" [Csiko's / Csikos POST]
SPASM - "Dan (Old Skool Mix)" (Plaguefox)
Hiroshi Ohkuba - "Eat 'Em Up!" (Plaguefox)
Dark Luke - "I Sawed The Demons (E2M1 from Doom)" [Saw]
Melanie C - "I Turn to You (Hex Hector Vocal Mix)" (Plaguefox)
House of Pain - "Jump Around" (Plaguefox)
Graeme Norgate - "KI Feeling" (Plaguefox)
Apollo 440 - "Krupa" (Plaguefox) [four forty]
長沼英樹 - "Let Mom Sleep" (Plaguefox) [Hideki Naganuma]
Namco "R4" Sound Team - "lucid rhythms" (Plaguefox)
DM Ashura - "MAX Forever"
DM Ashura - "neoMAX"
They Might Be Giants - "No One Knows My Plan" (Plaguefox)
Theme of TITANIC - "Ocean of Memories (Trance Mix)"
PPK - "Resurrection" (Plaguefox)
Remy Zero - "Save Me (Smallville Opening Theme)"
Senser - "States of Mind" (Plaguefox)
A-Teens - "Super Trouper" (Plaguefox) [A*Teens, A★Teens]
DM Ashura - "Z" [The Legend continues]
Banzai - "Zodiac"

I'm not sure why I'd hesitate to outright confirm The Cynic Project - "Happy Theme (Trancebound Remix)" (Plaguefox), I think it was also included.

Silent Nick - "Palladio" (Plaguefox) seems Very Familiar, like it may have been included but wasn't a favorite of mine to play.

A few common PlagueMix files, like Touch of Joy - "Fox on the Run", aren't at all familiar to me. While it's possible they completely slipped from my memory, I think it's more likely that the disc just didn't include every single stepfile Plaguefox made around that time.

I remember there being One Other official ITG stepfile included, which I think was either Banzai - "Anubis", or KaW feat. ☺ - "Euphoria".

From StepMix 1:

• Hypernov8 - "Tetrix (Type B Remix)" feels like something that was included, fairly high confidence.

• e² - "Destiny -Eclipse Mix-" [Electronic Elation, remix of ☺ / Smiley] ... about as high confidence.

• edit: upon scrolling by e^2 - "Oceans of Time" [e²] in-game and hearing the preview, I was struck by a pretty strong sense that it was on the disc.

• DJ Nebs - "For Not Trying" seems Very Familiar in name only, as though it was just there and I scrolled past it a lot without any interest in playing it.

• I'm on the fence about whether KaW vs. ☺ vs. Inspector K - "Duality" feels more like something that was Included or something that was among the first stepfiles I ever Downloaded. DarkChao's simfiles for KaW's "Who" and "Legacy" sit in a similar spot.

• DM Ashura - "MaxX AttaxX" ... I feel VERY unsure of. It seems vaguely familiar, it sits side-by-side with MAX Forever, but hmm. Feels like an odd one out. Unless it's not...

I remember having one or two different D.J.Amuro vs. DM Ashura - "AAA" files early on... do not remember if one was included.

I'm fairly certain Max Dragon - "OMEGA" [Ω] was not included. I think it was a popular file, but I don't think I personally had it.

That's the best I can do for now. As far as I saw, there wasn't even a partial actual List already posted somewhere. Hopefully this sparks a more complete memory if someone else searches for it.

I play Stepmania at home with a mat connected to my computer, and it's a lot of fun but I was curious if there happen to be any Nintendo Switch games that take input from a dance pad, too. I'd love to try them out if they exist. (My mat has a bunch of connectors like USB, PS2, Gamecube, etc. so potentially I could plug it into the Switch's USB ports.)

I have a bit of a unique hardware setup and I'm wondering if it's possible to configure it for two different gameplay styles at once.

Right now, I have two dance controllers connected to my PC via USB. My goal is to have one person playing in the "Pump It Up" style (5-panel/directional) while my partner plays in the classic DDR style (4-panel). We want to be able to play the same song, but with the arrows mapped differently for each player based on their specific controller.

Is there any setting, mod, or workaround within StepMania or ITGMania that allows for this? I'm essentially looking for a way to assign Player 1 to a PIU-style configuration and Player 2 to a DDR-style configuration simultaneously on the same machine.

Has anyone managed to pull off a split-style setup like this? Any advice on how to handle the input mapping or song selection would be huge!

I grew up playing DDR and ITG/2 at a local arcade that typically had DDR Extreme running alongside a rotating secondary machine, as well as at home with all non-Disney NTSC PS1/PS2 games, and I ordered StepMania on CD in 2006. I registered my first email account in 2007 to join the StepMania forums and share the mod courses I scripted for the Hopscotch Mixes when I was just a COPPA violation. Since 2009, I've been too physically disabled to play on a pad, and I had severe eyestrain issues for a while that made me fall out of the habit of playing rhythm games, especially anything flashy e.g. mod charts. I lightly touched StepMania between then and now, and kept up with DDR releases and events to some extent, and some of the more high-profile customs.

An unrealized essentially-lifelong dream of mine is to have organized or singlehandedly created a stepfile pack with all-original content, much like the Hopscotch Mixes. My young self thought it was The Coolest Thing that regular people could actually basically make their own DDR games like that from scratch, after growing up spilling fantasies of charts for songs that only existed in my head onto endless sheets of paper. The bug bit me a couple times over the years, but I failed to get others Excited about such projects, and I ran out of my own limited steam very quickly.

I would hope that Enough people with the right skills had the same dreams, such that within the past two decades, at least a few good packs of Original Content would have come to fruition. So, where are they?

Annoyingly, "Originals" in stepfilepackspeak has always just meant original Charts, and too rarely original Music. If you search the stepmaniaonline database, there are nearly 1,000 pack results for "original" — good luck finding any Fully Original material in that haystack.

Obviously, I know of the Hopscotch Mixes. I was a contributor to the FlightMixes. If I'm not mistaken, there's at least SOME original music in the StepMixes, D3MIXes, DDR XX, Club Fantastic, and the foonmixes... are there archives of Mantis's stepfiles? He made music...

Unfortunately, even if there are some newer packs of original music, actually Enjoying The Music and wanting to play the files more than once or twice is another matter. I assume much of what would have been made in recent years would fall under the broad umbrella of Modern EDM, the recurrent tropes and textures and structures of which I feel just don't Hit Right the way classic DDR music does. Classic DDR mixes were stylistically Diverse and the music was Layered and songs being condensed into ~1:30 meant they Developed Rapidly without dawdling on long stretches of lower energy, and I miss that Overall Feeling.

My general musical tastes these days skew toward the experimental, the lush, the dense, the flashy, the oddly-syncopated, and stuff that's just in some way Idiosyncratic. Some enduring DDR/BEMANI/ITG favorites As Music, to give you an idea, include AM-3P (+ remixes), If You Were Here, SP-Trip Machine ~Jungle Mix~, WILD RUSH (+ PCM Remix), DROP OUT, Orion.78 (both), INSERTiON, more deep (ver.2.1), L'amour et la liberté (DDR Ver.), Trip Machine Survivor, PARANOIA Survivor MAX, Scorching Moon, PARANOiA -Respect-, CHAOS, Trim, dazzle, S・A・G・A, Centaur, UZIEL, Hand Of Time, Solina, Turn It On, and most things by TaQ and ZigZag.

Another unfortunate thing here is that the skittery IDM regions of experimental™ are attractive to keyboard charters in particular, and my finger joints cannot withstand what they demand.

I also prefer pad charts because, even though I can't actually move my body to them, I have a phantom sense of what it should feel like, which gets tripped up when a chart doesn't flow well in that regard.

Having had Konamix as my first properly-Owned DDR game, I have fond memories of playing Solo mode, and I always thought it was a shame that the style has rarely been explored since. Having found a like-minded friend in recent times, and having found greater appreciation looking back at old Solo charts and the sorts of motions found in Them Uniquely among DDR officials, I'd like recs for... any solo charts anyone has ever dared to make? I see that according to SMO, foonmix 2 surprisingly has solo charts for everything, which I never knew about, but I also don't trust SMO's archived version to be entirely as it was originally, glancing at its formatting... the official site is still up, amazingly, but the download link there is dead.

I'm also very interested in anything featuring Lifts. They just seem like a natural thing to include in charts, and it's Sad and rather Confusing how they're so poorly supported and thus underutilized. It's a Noteskin thing, I reckon — if more noteskins actually represented lifts well, they'd see more use. SMEditor's default scalable Cel noteskin is pretty much Perfect as far as I can tell, representing lifts very readably to me as hollowed-out taps with their regular quantization colors, on top of supporting 6 panel, but I can't simply directly rip that noteskin out of the program, and other versions of the same noteskin even by the same author are functional downgrades for the time being. There are A Few noteskins that use quantization-colored lifts that look natural, it's clearly manageable in ~the same way as regular taps, so why do most noteskins have to just leave them as some static graphic that's at its worst borderline indistinguishable from a 64th or 192nd note, and sometimes literally impossible to make out at lower scroll speeds (when they look like just the tips of taps)?! Like, the lack of quantization colors is just Nonsense for a gameplay element that's judged exactly as tightly as taps are, and it seems like anyone who'd desire to make a Fully Functional noteskin wouldn't overlook that. Taking noteskin recs too.

s' yeh them's my wishes, how true may they come?

Hello friends!

After 18 years of TapMania on iOS it is finally time to announce the next version that i have been working on in the background. To make it the game we all deserve, I need your help playtesting it on iOS and Android 🤟

For people who don't already know TapMania is a Stepmania simfile-compatible engine for your phone. It supports on-screen input, bluetooth gamepad, keyboard and probably your bluetooth DDR pad if you have one 😄 It works in both portrait and landscape and features a modern 3d look as well as the legacy look we all love.

Teaser video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eCNKjHOk-so

Join the discord server here: https://discord.gg/SaFMHkdtn or scan the QR code.

See you there 🚀

Alex

I bought some cheap ps2 to usb converters and I am not in a situation to buy different ones so if there re some software stuff that I can get as they show up on the computer when I connect them but do not give any input into the game

Help, I can't stop making sbassbear/game grumps charts!

Hello!

I'm wondering, is there an existing APK for StepMania that can be installed on Android with support for dance pads?

I have an Android box I use for my TV (can play Android mobile apps and Android TV apps) with decent specs and two usb ports, and it would be super cool if I could plug my pads into it and play with my friends instead of having to get a NUC or mini Windows PC (or haul my big ass PC around the house or to my friends' houses).

If it doesn't exist, I'm happy to work on getting one built, but just don't want to start from step 0 if someone has already made progress.

Thanks!

Hello everyone!

Long time lurker, first time writing — I used to have this version or theme of Stepmania back in middle school and now I’m at a loss of which version or theme it was since now I have an extreme urge to play it :’)

I’ll go into detail the best I can. I don’t have photos of it and when I try to find photos there just isn’t any.

The entire theme or version was blue. very blue. Lots of blues. I think it had four main characters but the two that I remember vividly were two: a girl with light brown hair and red glasses, the other was another girl that was black hair/red eyes.

These characters would be apart of the single player/multiplayer section of the game and would show up after you’ve finished a song as the background when your performance was being ranked.

When you would were on the song menu, it was a wheel. It was also neon blue and the song titles would be pixel-esk and rainbow.
Some of the songs I remember there being were:
- Potential Break Up Song by Aj & Ally
- Blood+ theme (forgot the name)
- Caramelldesan
- D-Grayman theme (don’t remember which)
- Forever Young

From when I remember, the version I think this might have been was somewhere around 3.0 or 3.9 but again I don’t remember if this was a version or a specific theme :(

If anyone out there can help me figure this out I would be 1000000% greatful and it would be a huge help! Thanks! :D

I'll start saying that I has never been good at this game despite I regularly play it since 2015. Until 2025 even achieve a small improvement could take me years, and some songs that in theory were supposed to be for beginners took me up to 8 years to achieve an AAA, mostly because I always had huge limits to how many arrows per second I was able to elaborate and improvements has always been small and slow

But since this year, and especially in the past 2 weeks, out of a sudden I started achieving colossal improvements on the game, to the point that songs I always struggled with since 2015 become a close AAA with 2 greens and a miss within a couple of days (today at example I went from 81,80% on a song I constantly practiced every day in the past year to 94,96% in a single day). And just to make a more reliable comparison, in those songs with red+blue+yellow arrows spam, to be able to handle them at a specific BPM, to go from 120 to 140 BPM it took me 9 years. Now I went from 140 to 164 in 2 weeks.

Idk what's going on with my brain but this sh*t makes absolutely no sense. I'm honestly scared and not sure if being happy or worried

Currently using this theme for Outfox and have been interrupted by these warnings on my plays, even tho i just tweaked out some files on the theme folder to make them work, some of them just directly dont even exist on the folder like the ones shown on screen, IDK if this is because it doesnt have the Hotfix on it yet (Which i dont even know which hotfix on the Github page i should install tbf) or a fail on the extract

I would like our help with this

no chart for once, just vid. I got bored and stumbled upon one of the isn't she lovely memes and thought it'd be funny to do one for itl

Hey y'all, keyboard player trying to find an ITGMania (Simply Love) noteskin that changes arrows to bars. Would appreciate the help, thanks.

It's this old StepMix 2-3 song, and apparently the full version is 4 minutes, but the forum Detach posted his albums in is long gone

Also appreciated would probably be one or more of his full albums

Hey everyone! I'm hoping someone here has a good memory for old custom simfiles because I've been racking my brain over this one.

Here's what I remember:

• It was played on an In The Groove 2 arcade cabinet at an arcade, so a custom/downloaded song loaded via memory card (not part of the stock ITG2 song set)
• I was playing it around 2015, usually on Hard difficulty
• The background was mostly blue with some text on it (can't recall exactly what it said)
• The intro of the chart had a little gimmick: 4 arrows followed by 4 mines right at the start, almost like a loop or intro pattern

I was also playing Tricky Disco around the same time on the same cabinet, if that helps place it in a similar pack or era.

Any ideas? Even a guess at the pack it might be from would be a huge help. Thanks in advance!

UPDATE 1: the song is not in this packs

i started creating my own charts recently, hoping to put together a full pack soon, how can i submit my works on public sites like itgpacks and stepmaniaonline?