Since the steam frame controllers have the full rb rs lb ls abxy etc..., just like the steam controller, it should work as one? With that, what is the point of using the steam frame with the steam controller and not just a regular one since the steam frame controllers have tracking, obviously.

I just basically don't understand why noone has adressed the fact that the controllers arent half buttoned like normal vr controllers but is just a xbox controller cut in half.

With how the reservations work people won’t be buying the devices at the same time so the risk of cards getting declined due to traffic is minimal, right?

I tried the Oculus Quest 2. But even with the spacer, it was tight with my glasses and rubbing on the frames. So I couldn't use it and sold it.

Any word if the Steam Frame will be better for people with glasses?

A lot of VR games are obvious intense movement focused fighting games, but are there any that you would call chill or relaxing, light on combat & with easy to solve puzzles? Something to soothe your mind against everything?

Only three games I've found so far that I'd call relaxing: Paper Beast, Realms of Flow & The Last Frame.

^{Yes, there is literally a VR game titled The Last Frame. Shocker, I know. There's also another VR game titled The Last Frame, but it's made with AI, so it doesn't exist.}

Anyone else know of any VR games that don't require hard thinking or intensive movement for you to just unwind with?
Thanks!

Edit: VR Minecraft as well can be relaxing, provided you play on Peaceful.

I mean the dream air se has micro oled lenses with a higher resolution then the steam frame. But it is also a pcvr headset only, that also still uses a cable. The dream air se is also $899-$1299.

Yo guys should I buy this cuz idk if the controller will be useful on the frame,

I just got the email 12 minutes ago so I have to decide within 30 minutes or else Gabe might cancel the steam frame

same time tomorrow™?

Things will be happening this month. I BELIEVE!

I'm surprised Alyx is yet to be Steam Frame verified. I assume it would be the headline of the Great on Frame storefront to showcase the capabilities of the Steam Frame upon release.

Another worthy mention would be Forefront, considering it runs well on mobile vr as it is.

Edit: Sorry, I thought it was more common knowledge that Valve has been working internally on getting Alyx to run standalone! While we were at 40-50fps performance about 5 months ago, I had the belief their intentions were to continue optimizing it for the 'great on frame' minimum. Not sure we're there yet but they're working on it! Maybe we see HL2 VR first? Or Team Beef's Half-Life VR port? Crowbars crossed!

Valve has been acting weird and avoidant for a few months now. At first, I admit, I was hopeful that it might just be nervous because it was planning something big. Valve and I have been together for years, and the last time it brought up the future it really seemed like we were on the same page about the Steam Frame launch timeline. But clearly my excitement was premature, because the more time passes the more of this weird disconnect I feel between us.

I don't know how to make sense of it, other than to think that Valve doesn't want to sell me a Steam Frame anymore but can't figure out how to tell me. Valve isn't the most communicative about its problems, but it's always been proactive about telling me what I need to know before things get serious. There have been times in the past when it couldn't share everything right away because it needed time to process - especially around money stuff, and to be fair we're definitely having some budget problems right now - but normally it would have given me a lot more assurance that it was making progress towards being able to express itself clearly.

Before you ask, yes, I have tried asking what's wrong, both tactfully and not-so-tactfully, and each time I just got the polite brush-off. Valve seems determined to pretend that the Steam Frame conversation is going to happen soon, but how much longer am I supposed to wait for "soon?" I want it to talk to me, but what if selling me a Steam Frame is just an obligation it's still holding onto from the past?

The dev said it would work in standalone. I will be purchasing this because I've heard nothing but good things and the standalone verified is what pushed me off the fence.

Alright y'all, I got bored of waiting on this thing and I already had my Valve Index since the release of it. Considering that my Index is somehow still functional after all these years, should I just upgrade my ultrawide monitor to oled instead?

For context: I currently have and LG 34WP65C-B VA Panel which is 1440p. My monitor is kinda cheeks but I've held onto it for 5 years. Alienware just put out a new 34" ultrawide QD-OLED 1440p monitor which costs $799 which at this point will be cheaper than the frame. Would wait for the 39" version but that might cost $1100 - $1400 and I'm not doing all of that lol. Going for a 4k version of this 34" monitor pushes the price to $1600. No.

Main PC Specs :

RTX 4080

Ryzen 7800x3d

32 GB of ram

I am using my VR mainly for simracing and flying. And meta with its terrible software just ruined my race, cuz on the last freaking lap it decided to crash…

Ive been waiting for frame for too long, i even considered other options like pimax, bigscreen, but sadly, for my usecase frame seems like the only option and i will be continue struggling with quest 3, but each day i am wanting it more and more… just hope it will be sub 1500eur.

Just got a replacement index controller and the difference between my old one is night and day. This made me question if there’s anyway to keep the Steam Frame have “less shiny” plastics than the Index Controllers. ( apart from washing hands because that can make them more shiny sometimes).

Took some time to just line up these "___ fests" with dates of hardware releases and, the end of this train fest could mean something... Possibly something Soon™

Source

It's really not the end of the world, but I have my PSVR2 PC setup in the living room and when it comes to using it, I have to cover my large mirror otherwise it causes issues.

I did have the same issue when I had an Index also, so I'm thinking there's no reason I wouldn't have the same issue, but I thought maybe some familiar with the hardware would know?

Thanks all!

EDIT: Shortly before posting this, I also sought some insight into Frame alterntatives here. Might add some context into why the Frame's promo video was more for me than the actual product might be?
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So I was PSYCHED when I saw the Frame preview video. I'd been curious about VR for ages, but didn't want to go the full 'hobbyist' or early-adopter route.

Before VALVE's hardware announcement from STEAM, I vaguely knew about Meta Quest and Occulus, so I was anticipating any VR would require a bunch of chords, moving around in my room getting tangled and falling into things (I'd seen plenty of videos of people crashing into their TV's), and needing space to dedicate to VR that I didn't have.

It was actually the AR stuff that got me really excited, including when the hype video had some folks playing their 2d steam games on a projected screen (in full color mind you).

Last week, I'd had enough of the maybe tomorrow memes (or rather, the environment producing them - keep'em coming folks, they're good for a laugh), and started looking at what else is out there and how it would compare to the Frame and (what I've since learned is) it's foveated streaming and the other functions it's going to be offering.

That gave me enough time to learn that boy was the hype video...hyped (it'll actually be greyscale AR, not full color like the hype video), that Galaxy might be a bit pricier but offers a full AR experience for the additional expense, and that there's some Project Swan headset that might blow both out of the water at a pricepoint in the middle of Frame and the XR, or even lower than Frame.

All that is to say that VALVE really blew it here, but at least I'm coming out on top.... If they'd announced a date for signups for the FRAME lotto-to-purchase - even if it was in September - I don't know how much digging I would've done. All the poor communication, or lack thereof though? It led me to talk myself out of the Frame at this point (I'm basically deciding on diving into the XR or waiting for whatever Project Swan ends up getting called).

If you're still psyched for Frame, I don't blame you. The AR stuff is equally important to me as gaming (a virtual desktop so I can work 'on a bigscreen' anywhere in my home will be great), so I might be a unique case, but just kind of wondering if anyone else has had a similar journey specifically because of the poor public messaging / comms strategy out of Valve regarding FRAME?

But look.... maybe none of it matters because clearly IT'S TOMORROW.

Store.Steampowered.com/greatonframe

A phenomenal game, akin to Balatro but based around those coin-pushing games at the arcade.

They launched the marketing for the frame nearly 9 months ago. They know tons of their fans are eagly awaiting this launch. All the other hardware has launched. Why not simply give us a window or even acknowledge the frustration from delays ? I’m still going to get one but the silence from valve at this point is kind of inexcusable for a gamer first company.