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u/mstop4 22h ago
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u/Superbunzil 21h ago
The rabbit hole why Wilbert Awdry characterized Diesel engines as villains is quite a ride
You think its racism but long story short it's basically a dude being a crank at the British Public Railways management
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u/mrandr01d 18h ago
Wait I need the long story
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u/IncreaseWestern6097 17h ago edited 17h ago
Basically in the 1950s, British Railways were replacing steam engines with diesel engines, which led to a lot of steam locomotives getting scrapped.
Wilbert Awdry, a railway enthusiast and author of the Railway Series of books, wanted to address this topic in his stories. This led to him introducing Diesel in his story “Duck and the Diesel Engine,” in which he scoffs about how diesel engines are the future of railways and how they’re better than steam engines, only to be tricked by a steam engine named Duck.
However, as BR full adopted diesel engines and efforts were made by enthusiasts to preserve steam (i.e. the Flying Scotsman and the Bluebell Railway,) Wilbert added more positive depictions of diesel engines in his stories to indicate that the technology wasn’t inherently bad.
I hope this is a decent summary, since I’m probably misremembering a few things.
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u/Falleneded 12h ago
this is missing one of the main reasons Wilbert Awdry hated diesels at first.
and that was British rails horrible management of the Dieselisation plan scrapping most every steam engine unless someone else bought it from them with very little care for the cultural significance of them.
obviously we dont need 100 different 5700 Class. but if it werent for one man nearly going into debt the gresley designed A3s (the face of British railways for 40 years) wouldve all been scrapped.
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u/mrandr01d 13h ago
Holy cow the words "bluebell railway" triggered something deep in my memory I didn't even know was there!
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u/mrwioo 21h ago
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u/SomeOnionHater 21h ago
After setting the last orphanage in the world on fire, Thomas felt inner peace.
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u/Competitive-Half-863 14h ago
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u/J_Landers 20h ago edited 13h ago
Railway Empire wasn't listed, but is also on sale.
So is Railway Empire 2, but apparently it's not worth it. (see below)
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u/WhereIsTheMeatShed 17h ago
Personally I think Railway Empire 2 is great!
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u/ferrets54 15h ago
It's the same game with some QOL improvements. What's not to love?
The voice acting. But apart from that.
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u/SirupyGibbon 15h ago
Lucky you! The blackmailer tried to turn their threat into reality but was caught in time by your security personnel.
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u/MyLifeIsAThrowaway_ 20h ago
Honestly I just noticed how many of them weren't really train games or only tangentially related to trains. Like, what is Vicky 3 doing in there??
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u/blah938 19h ago
I mean, really how many train games are there? Railroader, Derail, Railroads Online, RR Tycoon Series, A Bumpy Ride. Sure there might be a couple dozen, but that doesn't make for a good steam sale.
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u/AmazingELF74 18h ago
They should throw everything in that has rails in it. Factorio, satisfactory, Arma (has a good train mod), Terraria.
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u/anonmemer42069 18h ago
Factorio has never gone on sale, and (according to the developers) never will. They know they have digital crack, and don't need to give discounted access.
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u/Serious_Feedback 17h ago
I think Factorio just knows their target demographic is of the engineer/autistic variety, who'll respect the policy and be happy there's no point in waiting.
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u/KaiFireborn21 12h ago
I can respect the policy, seeing as their game is crazy-well thought-through. For me, the price of any game is its two-year-low plus the time required to wait for its next instance. Factorio's happens to be 30€, with no wait time attached... I bought Cyberpunk and HZD for the same price. The pretty "-50%" marker doesn't actually improve the game yknow
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u/MayvisDelacour 65 5h ago
I was annoyed to no end at first as I genuinely have too much to be playing anyway to get something not on sale. It's a hard sell if you're not even gonna like it but the amount of time I put into it made the investment very worthwhile! Just wish that meant I got better at it lol
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u/AlwaysUseAFake 13h ago
Captain of industry! Such good trains
Factorio.is hardly a train game anymore
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u/eternalsteelfan 17h ago
In the US and England, the creation of railways were a massive part of industrialization and revolutionized travel during the Victorian era.
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u/MyLifeIsAThrowaway_ 14h ago
I'm not saying they weren't important. But you're not really interacting with trains in any meaningful way in Victoria 3. It's a nation economy management game.
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u/ThatGuy721 5h ago
I mean, they are the single most important technology to research in the game and if you don't get them in a reasonable amount of time, you will be 100% fucked as your nation crumbles from the lack of infrastructure. It's stresses their logistical importance to industrial-age nation building rather than the train itself, but admittedly the actual interaction itself is as basic as a button click to add them to a queue.
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u/MyLifeIsAThrowaway_ 4h ago
Again, I'm not saying they aren't important. But key mechanics of the game don't involve actually interacting with trains generally. It's like how fire stations are really important in Cities Skyline, but you wouldn't call it a firefighting game. You wouldn't expect to see it in a sale related to firefighters.
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u/DukeDevorak 4h ago
You are invading other countries to run your trains there. Of course it's train-related.
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u/KeyptonLord 21h ago
look inside
no monster train
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u/DoubleSummon 20h ago
This is actually quite bizzare, it's a really niche fest, don't have one of the best known deck builders.
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u/No_Magician5266 19h ago
I think this fest marks the first time ever that Derail Valley has been on sale on Steam. I urge everyone to pick it up immediately
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u/Individual-Bad6809 18h ago
Is it cool in vr?
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u/No_Magician5266 18h ago
I’ve only played non-VR but I’m sure it’s even better with a headset
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u/ankerous 17h ago
What about it appeals to you? Just curious and I love trains so I'm interested in it.
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u/Mulsanne 16h ago
it's the best job sim for driving trains. Take jobs from the office, walk the yard to find the cars, pick up an engine and drive it through the yard to the cars in question and then do what the order says. Hauling, shunting, unlocking licenses to drive longer trains, get better locos.
It's very immersive. You do all the coupling / decoupling etc.
It's definitely the best game for the job of driving / building / breaking trains
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u/FactoryOfShit 10h ago
Yes! It was originally built for VR, there's full immersive motion controls.
To be honest, I expected that. What I was surprised by is that they put work in to make sure that BOTH VR and flat-screen play well. Most games don't do that, it's either flat or VR and the other mode feels like a fallback for those who need it.
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u/Just_the_questions1 14h ago
It's awesome in VR. Though the shovel can be alittle janky when shoveling coal into the furnace but other than that I thoroughly enjoy. Feels much better to pull on the rope whistle by phsyically lifting your arm up and down.
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u/madTerminator 11h ago
It is THE VR GAME. Seriously. Once I rent headset and controllers for this. If I had free cash I would get a set just for this game 😄
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u/sharktail_tanker 14h ago
This is the second time, they also ran a discount when update 99 came out, and the devs announced they'll become mountain hermits for the next 5 years to develop the next update
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u/almondogs 19h ago
Play DenshAttack!
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u/sdcar1985 19h ago
I bought it, but i have a bad habit of buying games and never playing them even though I want to.
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u/almondogs 17h ago
It’s fun as soon as you turn it on. It’s outrageous the music is banging and it never luls its worth the play.
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u/Geeseareawesome 19h ago
No surprise there's no Factorio. Best trains imo
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u/SuddenValley1899 19h ago
Train Sim Classic is bound to have a steam train or two with its 790 separate dlc.
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u/Jaikarr 17h ago
So like, for someone tangentially interested in trains, which games are worth buying?
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u/jc343 15h ago edited 1h ago
if you specifically want to drive them, play derail valley
many other games are formatted such that you either spend too much time (imo) in menus pre-planning everything, have no progression or fail-states, everything's locked behind $1000+ of DLC, or the real game is in economy management rather than actually engaging with the trains. DV is an open world with no loading screens or menus after start, and from there you can go anywhere on the map, take any engine and do any job. played in first person by default; native VR support but it's not required at all
you can for example take a small loco and a shunting job to build out a larger train for departure, and upon completion it'll automatically create a hauling job that will itself generate corresponding shunting jobs at the destination to unload, break the consist down, and prep new trains. but you can play whatever you want - even outside of sandbox mode you're not required to stick to the official job orders
the setting is really unique; instead of the usual US or western europe it's set in a nondescript post soviet state. things are rusty, worn, and outdated, but there's a good range of imported rolling stock. all the engines are kitbashed and fictionalized, but they still have obvious IRL analogs and are all available base game! there is also a really good modding scene tho if you really want direct real models
several different power trains are represented, all with great fidelity (especially for the steam engines). there's currently:
- a 0-6-0 steam shunter/tank engine, the S060
- a 2-8-2 steam engine, the S282
- a small diesel electric for learning the game and for shunting, the DE2
- a full sized diesel electric freight engine, the DE6 and its unlockable slug unit
- a versatile medium diesel hydraulic workhorse, the DH4
- a diesel mechanical shunter, the DM3
- a diesel mechanical railbus turned into a makeshift personal utility vehicle, the DM1U
- and an adorable little battery electric BE2 microshunter :)
the diesel electrics and the hydraulic DH4 are all really easy and relaxing to drive, and they can be connected with each other for greater power. the steam engines are difficult, dangerous, and fun (ever seen what a boiler explosion looks like? :3). the diesel mechanicals can take a crazy amount of gear shifting but the railbus is a lot of fun to zip around in
then there's what the game is named for: derailing. it has full physics for all the cars, and high risk cargos (such as flammable liquids or the infamous "???") will give better rewards. you can blow up a whole oil yard lol. i mentioned boiler explosions - you better remember to overfill the water of a steam engine if you're going uphill, or else the front end might get too hot as all the water sloshes back and leads to your high pressure pipes becoming eldritch spaghetti
train customization and ownership is done by recovering lost demonstrator engines, hauling them to the museum, and fixing them up yourself. upgrades come in the form of individual gadgets, sensors, lights, and whatnot that you manually screw in wherever you like - just dont try to drill holes in a pressurized boiler lol
my only major complaint is the very long wait for updates; B99 was in late 2024 and B100 is looking to be released in late 2027 at the earliest. but they've consistently delivered with this dev cycle in the past, and now they're looking to add fully physics-based recovery cranes and towing winches for cleaning up derailments, overhead wiring for new electric trains, a US DLC of equal size to the existing game, and a bunch of other stuff. the long wait time for B100 does at least mean that we're in a golden age for mods tho
just know that this is a simulator; no matter how easy it is compared to other sims it still asks for a lot of time investment to get anywhere. but it's incredibly relaxing to play with music or a podcast on, until you forget to check your speed and dive a kilometer down into a river :3
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u/RimePendragon 9h ago
Only problem with Derail Valley, the world looks so lifeless.
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u/jc343 6h ago edited 4h ago
i thought so too at first but ive come to like it for the most part. i don't want to talk to npcs or be interrupted from driving what/where i want. the cities feeling dead feels like part of the setting's intended aesthetic - driving amongst silent khrushchyovka apartment blocks in the fog can be really atmospheric
but yeah i would like to see the upcoming AI in B100; hope they each have density sliders. in the meantime there are mods now for rudimentary AI cars, level crossing signals, dispatcher calls on the radio, multiplayer, pet cats, etc
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u/MsBelleMae 17h ago edited 17h ago
I like the Train Valley games. Station to Station was really fun too. Transport Fever 2 is up there as well.
Edit: To add more games.
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u/MatthewG141 17h ago
Worker's and Resources: Soviet Republic is not listed in the sale, but it's on sale and has plenty of trains! (More if you include the Workshop)
If you get the Early Start DLC, it adds steam trains and horses!
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u/AlwaysUseAFake 13h ago
I need to try that game again. I bought it mostly when I saw ore being transported by the sky tram
I need to find a good YouTube of it to watch
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u/RememberYourAlt 19h ago
What am I missing?
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u/DenizSaintJuke 11h ago
Every steam train in a videogame is an electric train.
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u/Mishal_SK 15h ago
Derail Valley has 2 steam trains (and 6 non steam trains) and it's currently discounted as well ;)
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u/Novalene_Wildheart 16h ago
Well that's due to the whole genocide thing.
this is a reference to Thomas the Tank Engine
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u/Hollowquincypl 12h ago
For those of you without kenophobia Void Train is on sale. Haven't beaten it but was quite smitten with it from the demo.
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u/Extraxyz 11h ago
Do people really keep paying for the scam that is Train Sim World? Release unfinished broken game Train Sim World X, abandon it within a year, tell people to buy Train Sim World X+1 instead, repeat this 6 times.
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u/CobraGTXNoS 10h ago
We don't keep paying, you can just transfer all your previous routes that you have purchased/received into whatever the newest one is.
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u/evanultra01 10h ago
Well now we need a second platform called Diesel. So Diesel Train Fest will have games about steam trains.
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u/JohnAzumanga 9h ago
steam engine simulator is free so i guess that's why they couldn't put it there
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u/SilentNinjaJoshu 7h ago
There was one fun demo I remember playing called a bumpy ride where you had to drive around and pick up passengers at one station and drop them off at multiple others. While I likely wouldn’t play it again that’s because I’m not into trains as a hobby but I imagine that for someone who is they would like the game
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u/FunkMunki 6h ago
I picked up derail valley VR. It's fun so far. Anyone know of anymore train VR games?
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u/Mysterious-Leg-4612 22h ago
well it aint called a steam train fe-... hold up