So due to recent performance—and a complete lack of impetus to go out and get new, exciting players for us to root for—I’ve been researching what a "No Confidence" vote in Craig Waibel actually looks like.

Requirements

• 40% participation (call it ~10-12k votes)
• 67% votes to remove (~6700-8000 at a min)

I’ve got 4 votes through my 4 tickets, but I have a hard time imagining another 7k+ votes going for "No Confidence." Do we think it's even feasible to get a vote like this passed? And if it isn't, is the Alliance Council just for show?

I’ve honestly never been disgusted enough in my STH ownership since 2009 to look into this, but now that I have, I'm curious if it's even achievable. Does this need to be a grassroots effort to convince other STHs that we need change at the GM level—and that we actually have the power to execute it if we turn out the vote?

RSL branded bottles in the Sounders section at Target (2nd & Pike).

In hindsight, it’s easy to say that Jordan’s contract extension was a big mistake, but it’s an awfully interesting sliding doors moment to consider.  What if Craig Waibel held firm on a max TAM contract extension with Jordan going into the 2023 season instead of the contract extension with the DP escalator for the last 3 years?  Jordan probably would have played out his contract in 2023 and entered free agency.  I think it’s fair to assume that he would have been similarly motivated and gotten his 14 goals in all comps, so the 2023 season wouldn't have looked much different. That performance would have made him a valuable free agent, but not a must-sign player. That leads to the following 3 possibilities: 

Door 1:  The Sounders re-sign him to a DP contract

Door 2:  The Sounders re-sign him to a max TAM contract

Door 3:  Jordan goes to another team

I could see all 3 things happening.

Door 1 seems like it would be no different than where we ended up, but there’s a big difference.  He would have become a DP one year earlier which would have prevented the Pedro signing.  Which itself is a huge sliding door moment given De La Vega’s injuries with us, but also that we probably don’t win the Leagues Cup without him.

Door 2 seems like a better outcome, but maybe we don’t get Jesus if we do this.  …or maybe Jesus comes in, but as a DP, in which case Ferreira’s polarizing performance would be even more polarizing.

Door 3: also seems like we would have dodged a bullet, but he scored 18 goals for us in 2024, which was critical given that Ruidiaz’s performance fell off a cliff. Jordan also helped slay the LAFC beast in the playoffs.  It’s easy to be disappointed with him, but 2024 may have been ugly without him.  We would have had an open DP spot, but what would Craig have been able to do with that?  Additionally, it’s hard to say how his absence would have changed the culture of the team. 

What do you think would have happened if the 5 year extension wasn’t signed going into the 2023 season?

Recent Big signings across the league
Lewandowski to Chicago
Griezmann to Orlando
Saint-Maximin to Charlotte
Casemiro to Inter Miami

I keep hearing J.Oshan says “there’s no correlation between spend and performance”, but I don’t buy it. It’s clear the MLS is moving in the direction of bringing proven higher quality talent even if it’s for a season or two. I feel like we are being gaslit into just accepting subpar output from SFC and only for them to shield themselves from accountability by sending out the Georgis, Kalanis, the Antinos, etc when they lose badly.

The Portland loss has exposed cracks and after 3 years of no ambitious signings, if this season is a losing season, I am afraid what happens to the fanbase.

At the same time it’s clear Adrian does not plan to spend a dime and to work within the league. I don’t think that will satisfy the fans.

My roundabout question is what will be the breaking point for the fans (not just Alliance Members but the whole fanbase)?

This game was the night of the World Cup Final in 2014. 60,000+ fans. I thought at the time this would become the norm, and even though we've won all of our major trophies since then, it feels like an opportunity missed.

Been looking around but I can't find anything on Ticketmaster or the Defiance site.

We go to Cheney Stadium all the time for Rainiers games because Tacoma is a lot closer to home than Seattle, so we thought we'd catch a Defiance game.

Former sounders season ticket holder living in Austin looking to reminisce and have a couple beverages! I understand if you don’t want to make it public, feel free to DM me! 💚💙

Could it be a “get right” game? The turnaround we desperately need? Or will it be another uninspired, do-nothing disappointment?

Let’s make the poll easier for this match.

Can anybody tell me the difference between the 2026 plan and 2027 plan? So many things are changing I can't figure it out.

Are they talking about these for the Evergreen STH renewal? Dammit, I'm such a sucker for merch...

They take the I-5!

Thought of a joke while rotting on the couch, curious if it’s already been done

Also I know “the I-5” is dorky but it flows better