r/SipsTea 4h ago

Chugging tea Not wrong!

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u/Slight_Beach_641 4h ago

I love all the updates from the governor. "Well, I've tried nothing, and I'm all out of ideas on getting to the bottom of this"

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u/No-Discipline-5219 3h ago

The Kentucky legislature took the power to call special elections away from him as soon as he came in to office

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u/MrFC1000 3h ago

No they took away his power to appoint a replacement, which is still dubious because that’s in the KY constitution. The method he can use is calling a special election.

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u/Left-Mechanic6697 3h ago

Exactly. Here’s where democrats really need to take a page out of the GOP playbook. Do the thing anyway, let the Kentucky GOP file a lawsuit, and make the courts determine if it’s within their power to do it without amending the state constitution.

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u/cutach133 3h ago

YES, this is what needs to happen. I'm not saying we should stoop down and play dirty like the GOP but Democrats need to at LEAST start playing the same fucking game!

If this was a state with a GOP Governor and a Dem Senator I can promise you the Gov would've already done EVERYTHING he could to appoint a new Senator.

WHYYYY are Democrats so weak and ineffectual? The GOP has gotten where it is because Democrats REFUSE to do anything except try to keep the status quo, we are WAY beyond status quo at this point and they still do nothing. This is why I'm voting straight DSA from now on.

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u/Any_Counter_303 2h ago

You haven't caught on yet? Really? They're aren't weak and ineffectual. They're controlled opposition. They all work for the same billionaires.

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u/Shot_Fan_9258 2h ago

I'm pretty sure most of the current elected officials are complicit of everything that's happening, independently of their party.

For the dems, it's even easier; do as less as possible.

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u/_V3rt1g0_ 2h ago

It's nice to see some people are finally figuring this out.

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u/catatonic_welder 2h ago

Why voting doesn't matter, whoever gets in office will inevitably be bought out, regular people will never have the funds to match the ultra rich.

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u/MadeByTango 2h ago

Incorrect. Vote for candidates that do not take corporate dollars. Mamdanis and AOCs.

And then stop worrying about the ad money. What candidates need is travel money and the ability to connect supporters. We can be the infrastructure to help that. The only reason the rich win the money game is because they make you think it takes money to win.

We have way more people power than they have money.

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u/FrankPapageorgio 46m ago

Incorrect. Vote for candidates that do not take corporate dollars. Mamdanis and AOCs.

You say that like there are more of them.

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u/noNoParts 36m ago

There are!

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u/radicldreamer 2h ago edited 1h ago

This is the most defeatist and frankly bot sounding post ever. Vote against big money in politics. We need to dismantle citizens united. Money isn't speech and corporations aren't people.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 35m ago

I think the whole "why doesn't Bashear appoint someone" line is being pushed by people who want to make the Dems look bad.

Bashear won't appoint someone because it's bad for the Democrats plain and simple. The new appointee is required by law to also be approved by the republican party of Kentucky so you're functionally giving republicans an extra vote in the United States senate while also breaking the law.

But because people want to portray the democrats as Weak reddit comments that act confused as to why he isn't doing this get upvoted.

Like seriously, what do you gain if Bashear appoints a republican senator to congress?

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u/adirtysocialist- 27m ago

"Make the dems look bad" hahaha christ this country is cooked.

The GOP is run by a fcking pedo cult destroying and grifting this country into the ground and you idiots are worried about the Dems "looking bad" by actually doing what needs to be done.

Insane take.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 25m ago

How is this an insane take?

I simply don't want the Pedo party to get another vote in the senate unlike some people in this thread.

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u/ElliotNess 7m ago

They are playing the same game. The dissonance you expect them to play the game in certain way. They don't. They represent the same capitalist class interest as the Republicans, and it's not yours.

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u/freedfg 2h ago

And in the meantime. Get as many votes in as possible.

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u/Beard_o_Bees 2h ago

Yup.

Ask for forgiveness, not permission. That should be on the GOP's 'coat of arms' in Latin - Veniam pete, non permissionem - (used a translator for this so it may need tweaking).

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 41m ago

The thing is tho:

Appointing a new senator would actually end up hurting Democrats more than Republicans.

The way the appointment process would work is that the Republican party would give the governor a short list of 3 candidates and the governor picks from those 3.

So the governor would have to appoint a republican to the senate, which functionally gives the republicans an extra vote (since McConnell hasn't been voting).

And in the long term, the next governor of Kentucky is probably going to be a Republican, having a special election makes it much easier to get a democratic senator in in the rare even that the next senator from Kentucky passes.

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u/adirtysocialist- 33m ago

Democrats are controlled opposition, when is that finally going to sink in with you people?

This "pretend to have no power" and "they go low we go high" nonsense is all show. They don't WANT to do what needs to be done.

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u/standard-issue-man 2h ago edited 2h ago

He should appoint someone anyway, make a whole media story about it, get Republicans on the record saying he cant do that so he can call on them to call a special election. He's losing the momentum and the Republicans are going to get away with this because of more Democratic fear of confrontation

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u/Unlikely-Key-234 1h ago

which is still dubious because that’s in the KY constitution.

Not exactly. What's in the KY constitution is the ability to fill statewide KY offices. It doesn't specifically mention federal office, like US Senate.

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u/MetaCardboard 3h ago

Didn't Colorado or Wisconsin or something do something similar? Republicans took away power from the office as soon as they knew it was going to a Democrat.

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u/WallStreetBagholder 3h ago

That’s what republicans do. They can’t win elections or have power without changing the rules and taking power away from the people

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u/Synensys 3h ago

Isn't it the reverse-they took the power of appointment away from him, going with a special election instead.

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u/misfitofscience76 2h ago

Illegally- their move is against KY’s constitution

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u/omicron-7 1h ago

Republicans would win a special election anyway so what's the point of the conspiracy

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u/ymmotvomit 3h ago

Call a damn special election and be done with it.

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u/suprahelix 2h ago

What would that achieve? Republicans would just ignore it

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u/omicron-7 1h ago

Republicans would win it. This is kentucky. They are at 0 risk of losing that seat.

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u/Sad_Expert2 37m ago

The amount of people who think they are making a point by giving the GOP back a vote on the floor is really making me sad. Reflexive anger at "The Democrats," no matter what they do.

The republicans have no incentive to cover up this death, they aren't that afraid of Massie (who may not even run, will be dumped on by Trump, and votes with Republicans on 98% of all issues anyway).

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u/omicron-7 28m ago

That's why this whole conspiracy theory makes no sense. There's no motivation to hide his death. They gain nothing and are actually hurting their position in the senate being down a vote.

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u/standard-issue-man 3h ago edited 1h ago

Beshear was supposed to be on the short list for president, a popular red state Democratic governor, but i think his handling of this McConnell situation is disqualifying. We need a fighter who is going to hold the criminals of this administration to account, not a do-nothing hack

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u/misfitofscience76 2h ago

Wait, wait, guys, come on, the nation just needs to heal, none of this prosecuting our “political enemies,” history will be the judge (in 100 years), let’s not rush to hold people accountable

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u/jackofslayers 1h ago

Yea the dude is killing his reputation in real time by trying to take the pussy foot approach.

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u/Sad_Expert2 35m ago

why are you so desperate to replace mcconnell with a living, breathing, voting republican, and how do you think calling a special election here is being "tough"

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u/Sad_Expert2 34m ago

We need a fighter who is going to hold the criminals of this administration to account,

By replacing an incapacitated senator with one who is living, breathing, and wants to vote for the SAVE act?

How on earth do you people think calling a special election is holding them to account?? They'll just win it!

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u/ActStriking5787 59m ago

The dems need to undo the "norm" mentality -- its failing them dramatically since mcconnel took over the senate. Every time the dems give reps the benefit of anything reps use it to their advantage 10x.

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u/fern_shape 3h ago

The rule should be the same for everyone: honesty and accountability.

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u/Tricky_Big_8774 1h ago

He can't do anything unless McConnell is declared dead or the Senate votes him out...

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u/SheriffBartholomew 1h ago

"Should I drive to the hospital and do a wellness check? NAH! That would never work."

Just fucking replace the dude. If he is alive then he'll show up and contest it. If he's alive but unable to show up and contest it then he's unfit for office anyways and the replacement is valid.

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u/sw337 3h ago

I love how McConnell being in the hospital robs Senate Republicans of a vote and their leader, but people like you see that as a bad thing. The governor also can't appoint a replacement there's a whole process that wouldn't make logistical sense:

If McConnell were to vacate his senate seat before his term ends, it may be tempting for Democrats to think Beshear, the Democratic governor of Kentucky, could appoint someone from his own party.

That’s not the case, however, because of a recent change in state law. Kentucky is now one of four US states where the governor does not have authority to fill Senate vacancies.

In 2024, Kentucky’s Republican-controlled legislature passed a law requiring Senate vacancies to be filled by a special election, which must be called by the governor.

But experts say holding a special election this year would be fraught with challenges, one of which is timing.

The new law says the governor must give 63 days’ notice before the special election. Senate hopefuls would have to file their candidacy no later than 56 days prior to the vote.

Even if McConnell’s Senate seat were vacated immediately, the earliest a special election could occur is September.

But experts say that cobbling together a special election would not make sense, since November’s midterm elections are barely three and a half months away. McConnell’s Senate seat is up for grabs in that race.

“Setting up the process would take time, so we wouldn’t get a senator in office very quickly, even if this process kicked off soon,” said Voss, the political science professor. “The probability that we’d get a replacement ahead of time is pretty low.”

Watson, the Republican strategist, agrees. He questions the efficiency of rushing to hold a special election, when the midterms are on November 3.

“We’re getting pretty close to Election Day,” Watson said. “They’re not going to put the commonwealth through the expense of having another special election just so someone could be a US senator for effectively one month.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/16/what-happens-if-mitch-mcconnell-is-unable-to-finish-his-us-senate-term

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u/Shiney_Metal_Ass 3h ago

No, it's a bad thing that a sitting senator is at best incapacitated or even dead and his office is lying about it putting out fake images to cover it up

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u/MetaCardboard 3h ago

Excuses excuses.

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u/sw337 3h ago

By excuses you mean literally how the law works?

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u/MetaCardboard 3h ago

No, I mean how they're making excuses to not follow the law. "Oh we can't give the people what they want because it'll be too much work for us." And then they turn around and call us lazy.

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u/Rettiviss 3h ago

In the article you quoted about following the law. It points out the recent change where the governor can no longer appoint due to a recent law change. The republicans literally made this change when they saw they were going to have a Democrat governor. Republicans in power notoriously don’t follow the laws or change them right before they lose power and then shout about how everyone should follow our laws. It’s really stupid and yes, you are making excuses for them by touting their bs.

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u/sw337 1h ago

Yes, that’s the part I quoted? What’s your point? Do you not understand he vetoed the bill and was overridden?

https://news.ballotpedia.org/2024/04/17/kentucky-lawmakers-override-gov-andy-beshears-d-veto-of-bill-removing-the-governors-authority-to-fill-u-s-senate-vacancies/

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u/misfitofscience76 2h ago

And it is an illegal law, it directly flours their state constitution

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u/Unlikely-Key-234 1h ago

Not really. The KY constitution—at least on its face—grants power to fill vacancies for statewide KY offices, like AG. It doesn't, at least not clearly, apply to federal office, like the US Senate.